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When the fuck did it become 20%? In like 2 years are you going
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When the fuck did it become 20%? In like 2 years are you going to have to tip like fucking 50%?
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It's always been 20%.
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Generally you tip 20% if it was very good service.

15% is usually fine though.
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>>69400046
1) It's been 20% for a decade at least.

2) If you don't want to tip, then just don't. Don't pull some fake-money stunt. That's just horse shit.
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but what if i actually dont care if that person pays his rent?
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>>69400046
Hey, 24% isn't too bad, what are you some kinda jew?
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15 is the standard

People keep trying to push it upwards, its such BS

I usually tip close to 20% myself but I cant stand when people think 15 is "low"
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15% not 20%
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Imagine being a waiter and you discover one of these in an upside-down glass of water.
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>>69400046
Tipping culture is the most disgusting, self-entitled mindset to have. You don't deserve extra pay for doing your fucking job like you're meant to.

Only liberal parasites and their enablers tip
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>>69400194
I mean yea I usually tip 20% of its a cute girl or some shit but
>>69400229
>>69400140
I am pretty sure it's 15%

>>69400285
I don't care either leaf. Fucking let them starve
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>>69400046
>be American, tip Jamal after he plows your wife
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>in debt after buying his own car
>$3/hr

Don't buy a car if you can't afford it. Don't take a shit job if you want to buy a car
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if you dont tip you should be ready for poisoning.

you cheap faggots. shove that education up your asshole nigger. tip your fucking waitress or get rekt cuntwads.
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>>69400046
17 year old Garrett Wayman of Wichita, Kansas sounds like a complete fucking idiot
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>>69400140
Bullshit, it started in the 90s. Before that it was 10%
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>>69400046
Maybe he shouldn't buy a car he can't afford.
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This is why I order food from the gas stations.

No tips and you can stare them down while they make your food.
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>>69400046
Well, fuck you. Go starve then, because I'm not going out to eat anymore.
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Tipping 20% is and has always been the white thing to do..
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>>69400517
>hurr durr give me extra compensation for doing what I was supposed to do to begin with or I will literally kill you
I think we all know who the real nigger is
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>>69400418

>i have never worked in a restaurant
>i don't understand what $2.13 an hour is
>nor do I understand taxes and pay checks
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>>69400285

This.

They should get a job that doesn't jew them out.
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>>69400046
>and is in debt after buying his own car

WHO'S FUCKING FAULT IS THAT?

>select all cars
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>>69400140
its always been 15% in my universe
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I don't tip unless they earn it. Also, min wage is being raised incrementally to $15/hour in CA, so no tipping ever again there. The state tips them at that point.
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>Pay our employees instead of us goym so we can make even bigger profit
Murka is israeli appendix
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>>69400140

Its been 15 my whole life. I am 36.
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>>69400652
Why can't they just get paid a normal wage?
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i usually tip 20%, the math is easier
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>is $7,000 in debt after buying his own car

Well, maybe you should only buy what you can afford instead of being angry with patrons who just pay what they have to pay
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Amerifats realize that the employer is legally obligated to give you the minimum wage if you don't get tips right?

Stop giving tips and force the fucking jew who owns the restaurant to pay their workers.
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>>69400652
>I don't understand that the employer BY LAW is required to pay the deficit if minimum wage is not made.
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I tip 10% at best or 0% if they were mediocre or average.

Why waste my money on average people?

Folks, let me tell you something, it's not a good investment.
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>>69400652
>I live in a country with terrible worker's protection
Just move you doofus
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>$7000 in debt after buying a car he couldn't afford
Nice!
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>Implying I have to tip jack shit

I tip rarely, only when the service was outstanding. When will this "paid below minimum wage" meme stop? All people have to do is read this one paragraph.

http://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
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Fuck the concept of tipping.

If you're dumb enough to have a shitty paying job, that isn't my fault. There is no reason why I should pay you're way because you sucked dick instead of attending college. Fuck your entitled attitude, cunt.
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>>69400769
They can. If their tips don't add up past the minimum wage, their employer has to make up the difference. They are just extorting you out of your money.
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>>69400046
>17 years old
>$7,000 in debt for a car
Go fuck yourself, Garrett.
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>tipping autism
Why not have the owners pay their workers a proper wage then just charge a bit more for the menu?
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>not using the tip system

what incentive is there for good service then?
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I always tip 20% when I was in the US. minimum 3$ if 20% is below $3
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>>69400652
Burgerbro I travel around Europe and not having to tip is a godsend. Sorry all the Mexicans took the easy jobs and you're ripped off at work but don't blame them for being a fag
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>>69400652
>$2.13 an hour

If nobody tips you'd get minimum wage.
Which is perfectly adequate for such a simple job.
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>>69400916

the fact that you're getting paid a wage.
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>>69400916
How about not getting fired for being a shit server?
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>>69400652
It's different in Europe so I know what he means. Here all waiters get minimum wage (about £6/7 per hour or £5 if under 21) and tipping for basic service is retarded. Unless they go above and beyond or they look really slammed that day and the server is still courteous and friendly, I don't tip.
t. Waiter
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>have a friend who is arab
>he tips 15% on the dot every time
>he calculates the tip off the pre tax subtotal


Also once went to a concert and some dirty fucking mexican bernie bro bought me a rum and coke when I was trying to get him to fuck off
>mfw he bragged about how loaded his parents are
>mfw he didn't tip the bartender

Now, I do tip bartenders very well and I tip them per drink, but that is just because they give give you your beers faster then.
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>>69400046

Philly/South Jersey here, Diner central.

It was 10% in the 80s, 12-15% in the 90s and early 2000s, and the food culture is trying to shame it up to 20%.

Do not feel bad for food service people, they chose to work there and accept shitty pay. We are not responsible for their actions. If they do the bare minimum you do not owe them anything beyond the listed meal price.
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>>69400517
Good ol' coercion, the true tipping culture.
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>>69400046
I do 20% because I'm bad at math & 20 is a nice round number.
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>>69400046
I hate tipping, it's like, don't look at me, your boss is supposed to do that.
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>>69400652
Go fuck yourself, if they're stupid enough to settle for $2.13 an hour they can't beg for tips.

I understand my taxes perfectly well, but if the US taxes a citizen that's on $2.13 an hour don't be surprised when they bitch and whine
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>>69400644
This. I tip more than 20% often as well. Just because you fucking neets can't afford to doesn't make it wrong. Tipping well buys you great service. I personally like being treated like a king when I go out to eat.
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It used to be 10% for ok service and 15% for good service.

That being said, I have a lot of friends who are waitresses at buffalo wild wings, of all places, and they make around $20/hr with tips. Granted, they're young, attractive white girls but still.

Anyways, that's why I do like tipping, because it allows young women with no real skills the ability to make FAR more money than they would in non tipping countries, where my friend would be making $10/hr
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Daily reminder that if you don't tip 300% and your fedora then you aren't a real American.
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>>69400652

Entitled baby, maybe you should have gotten a better job or made something of yourself. Why should the customers pay for their food and for the store's employees?
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>>69400916
>what incentive is there for good service then?

Returning customers: no restaurant owner is going to hire shitty waiters.
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ITT: Waiters blaming customers instead of greedy owners. 15% is fine.
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>>69400046
DON'T BUY THAT FUCKING CAR THEN FUCKING DUMBASS
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>>69400655
You are a jew.
You people claim to be nationalists yet to don't care at all about your fellow countrymen.
Individualism, prepotence and apathy KILLS nations.
You are just a child who doesn't comprehend that a country can't work hating on your neighbour and ignoring their problems.

I know that /pol/ is edgy by default but this is retarded.
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>>69400652
>choose to take a job for 2.13 an hour
>complain you don't make enough money because people aren't giving you enough handouts

it's a good fucking thing homeless people don't have internet or I suspect we'd all be in hot shit for not giving each and every one of them enough to survive because "Its not my fault my job pays me literally nothing!"

kill yourself
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>>69400781
You have a cell phone nigger
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I tip $5 for anything. eat shit if you dont like it
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>>69400046
>7000 dollar loan for a car while you're 17 and working minimum wage
Hundred bucks says it was a used 2005 automatic V6 Mustang.
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>>69400046
Last time I ate at a restaurant I gave a $15 tip for a $32 check.

Please don't judge me she was a qt.
and I left my business card.
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>>69401076
>Tipping well buys you great service.
Are you some kind of retard who tips before the bill arrives?
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>>69400685
This. Why the fuck do people buy cars if it's gonna ruin them financially. I walk 40 minutes to work every day, then back again. I can either get a car or move out and I'm saving to move out because I have 2 fucking legs and I'm not a egotistical faggot who needs a "whip"
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>>69401076
>write down your order
>bring your food when it's ready
>refill water every once in a while
Wow, holy shit. Being treated like a king!
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>>69400916
People get fired if they're shit
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If I am going to pay your salary for you instead of your employer, I reserve the right to fire your ass.
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>>69400140
t. waiter
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>>69400046
>Going out to eat
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>>69401081
I quite agree.

And if tipping girls for their looks means more hot women will serve me food then it's totally worth it IMO.
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>>69401210
Do you not understand that if you tip well, you will be remembered and have priority service the next time you visit?
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>>69401127
>he actually bought a 4chan pass
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>people who tour europe say the service is shit and they are condescending

no tips

>people come to america and are treated like kings

tips


hurr I wonder why this is?
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>>69400769

Good luck overhauling an entire industry. Waiters work a "rush" shift involving much more work per minute than most other minimum wage employees. You being fed depends on the kindness of strangers. A decent hourly wage would be nice, but shifts are usually only 5-6 hours. Jobs also aren't easy to get. It sucks that the restaurant forces you to pay the waiter's salary, but food prices will just rise if the minimum wage rises. It's a shitty system, but if you don't tip, you are human garbage.
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>>69401155
Meh. It's your money to throw away I guess
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>>69400046
10 % is the tipping point for me.
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My service better include a blowjob before I even consider 20%. 20% is a gift for excellent service
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>>69400046
Why should I tip someone doing their job? Wheres my tip at?
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>>69400988
>tipping bartenders
Are Americans autistic?
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>>69400046

15% max.
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>>69400916
> I will only do my job properly if you give me special snowflake money
"good" service should be fucking standard procedure.
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>>69400140
>It's always been 20%.
>>69400046
>>69400194
>15% is usually fine though.
>>69400229
>It's been 20% for a decade at least.
>>69400378
>15 is the standard
>>69400379
>15% not 20%
>>69400458
>I am pretty sure it's 15%
>>69400644
>Tipping 20% is and has always been the white thing to do..
>>69400728
>its always been 15% in my universe
>>69400763
>Its been 15 my whole life. I am 36.

All the real newfags spotted

>>69400558
>Bullshit, it started in the 90s. Before that it was 10%

Only remotely oldfag in the thread (besides myself)
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then get a fucking real job you single 40 year old mother failure. not my fault tyrone knocked you up with a dindu gud boi and you had to stop your life plans to take care of a monkey.
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Given that my only experience with tipping is that reservoir dogs scene, it was only 12% when that shit was made senpai.
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>>69400916
I used to work at Pizza Hut, the order was handled by an instore worker, the person being really friendly on the phone is instore worker. The person making sure your order is timed right is instore, the person cleans up after your mess is an instore worker.

The useless 30something year old dodgy cunt drives a pizza to your door and people tip the driver.

They get wage + petrol money + tips if it was a good service on the phone
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>>69400140
No it hasn't, numb nuts. Stop trolling.
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>>69401344
Assuming they remember your dumb ass, maybe, but if tips are your only incentive to do well at your job, then you can fuck right off.
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>>69400745
You a baserat or you a japrat?
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>>69400046
>tipping intensifies
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>2016
>still paying the gratuity jew

Good goy. How about restaurants pay their own employees?

>but tipping keeps the food cheaper
What fucking difference does it make if I pay 20% more on the bill or the tip. Fuck America for spreading tipping over to Canada, the only difference I see is servers get butthurt if you only leave a minimum tip.
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Usually I just give a $1.00 tip, when I have to, such as when I'm coming back or I'm with a date.
it's easy math, and it's acceptable to most servers.
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>>69400916
Losing your fucking job if you don't deliver it? Christ, people are so entitled
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>>69400046
You amerifags need to stop tipping as standard,
Staff should be payed by there company not by customers who were socially conditioned through guilt to pay them instead.
I always tip staff who make effort to be polite or the foods realy good, but for half hearted staff and average food there not getting shit
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>>69401127
This, the most recurrent problem I see nowadays is young people horribly mismanaging their finances and crying for others to fix their mistakes.
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>>69401404
>tip an extra $10
>get $20 worth of free drinks
I'm still in the positive
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>>69401283
>pay your salary for you instead of your employe

You're *always* paying their salary, regardless or if it's a tipping restaurant or a non tipping one.

>>69401334

They specifically hired cute young girls because they do get better tips, and everybody likes a cute waitress

of course, they can't say they only hired cute girls, but that's magically what happened
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>>69401404
>not tipping your bartender
It's not a hard job but they will serve you much faster and generally make more of an effort to get that perfect pint for you. It's a win win.
Same reason I tip my Barber
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>>69401446
how about you give my dick some good service bong
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>>69400349
OY VEY WHY WONT YOU GIVE 35% YOU JEW
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>>69401545
You are a jew.
You people claim to be nationalists yet to don't care at all about your fellow countrymen.
Individualism, prepotence and apathy KILLS nations.
You are just a child who doesn't comprehend that a country can't work hating on your neighbour and ignoring their problems.

I know that /pol/ is edgy by default but this is retarded...
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>>69400046
>Garrett goes to school full-time, accepted a job that pays below minimum wage and it $7,000 in debt after buying something he couldn't afford

Why the hell is any of that anyone's problem but Garrett's?
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>>69400046
Here's a tip

Get a job that doesn't shaft you hourly
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>>69401467
Labelling yourself on 4chan is incredibly retarded because no one knows who you are
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>>69400379
It was pushed up to 18% in recent years as "expected" and that just rounds up to 20%.
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>>69401551
Yeah no, I bet your servers see your measly tip as an insult. Do what you want, though.
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>>69401214
>40 minute walk
Get a bike lad
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>>69401590
>$20 worth of free drinks
Probably worth $2 if you make it yourself.
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>>69400046
15% pending behavior, always has been.
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>>69400046
This I like of the Japanese and Korean, they will tell you to keep your tip because they don't need extra money to do their jobs.
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>>69400517
if i get shit food and shit service two times i just won't go back. you're entitled ass just lost your boss money but you don't give a fuck because you think you deserved to be tipped for a job a conveyor belt could do.
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Don't tip. Period. Do not support their poor life choice of a "profession." It was never meant to be a way of fucking life, rather a stop-gap for students. Tipping is a bullshit thing. Be like me, Mr. Pink.
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>Be a woman
>Never have to tip or pay

This is literly a man's problem.
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>is in $7000 debt after buying his own car

fucking millenials
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>>69400046
How the fuck this nigga get 7k in debt buying a car when you can get a local shitbox for <1000
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>>69400046

> 3$/hour
> tip our workers, what are you GREEDY
> t. jew
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>>69401404
Yes. Bar and restaurant owners have truly jewed us all.

I honestly don't even like to eat out because I don't want some underskilled 19 year old suburban faggot to make more than the median household wage of this country.
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>>69400652
Ya I worked at one of those places and it made me fucking hate the tipping system. Only reason my employer could pay me that much was when tips balanced out with minimum wage. She even fucked me over a few months because when tips are involved its harder to prove my exact wage for that month.
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>>69401127
To be fair, seweroil man, American "cities" are so spread out and their public transport is so shit not having a car is a pain the balls unless you stay inside the city, which then normally means rents over 2k for a single room apartment because the stupid gits want to keep "the historical building we are currently letting rot and be covered in graffiti.
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>>69401672
I sexually identify

as anita sarkeesian
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>>69401693
Nah I live in a really hilly place, plus I enjoy the walk.
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I tip around 15% pre-tax, if they don't like it, too bad.
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>>69400941
>If nobody tips you'd get minimum wage.

No you don't. Legally restaurants have to, but most don't simply because they can get away with it.
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I don't understand why anyone takes a job working for fucking tips. When I went to college I just took a job at a hardware store and started at $12 an hour. Likewise, I don't get why so many idiots over the age of 20 take jobs flipping burgers at minimum fucking wage. It's not like I needed anything special to start at $12 at lowes fucking 10 years ago.

These people deserve what little they get and not a dime more.
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>>69401708
I'm sorry but where can you get a Bushmills 21 year for $2 a shot even if you buy the bottle of yourself.
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I tip 15% if they are clearly a small government voter but if they are clearly a socialiasts I tip 0
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>>69401650
>give everyone worse off than you handouts or ur a BAD CITIZEN

you'll have to shitpost a lot better than that to earn your syrupleaf
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only niggers dont tip
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>>69400140
10% is the standard, like it or not

15% for good food and service
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>>69401774
>>is in $7000 debt after buying his own car
LOL seriously this was the first thing i noticed.

He bought a 15,000 car and now he's in debt. Boo hoo.
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>>69400046
I was sexually molested as a child by an American in a public toilet.
I just now realised I never tipped the gentleman after he beat and raped me.
What's the going rate for this? 20% should I include interest?
Do you think the Police never caught him because I didn't tip them?

Oh what a foolish child I was.
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>>69400046
>he doesn't leave at least two 9mm rounds and chant 'USA' as a tip as is customary in the land of the free.
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>>69400046
>20%

Yeah, no, get a real job or unionize, but don't hold me and my money hostage with your bullshit.
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>>69401446
It's not even about good vs. bad.
Unless they slack around there isn't much bad they can do.

It's all about acting "friendly".
The fake "friendly" Americans seem to like.
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>>69401867
>t. Schlomo Shekelstein
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>>69401344
This kinda. I like this one burger joint place and the fat black lady who works there always gets me a seat and good food asap cause I tip her well. Fucking love that black bitch she makes good milk shakes.
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>>69400046
>Being moronic enough to believe even for a second that people are leaving $20 tips at shitty restaurants.

But to the topic.

Here's the dirty little secret about tipping. Waitresses and bartenders work these jobs because they are more lucrative than some minimum wage burger flipping. Do people occasionally get burned on tips? Sure. Some nights they may even come up short of what they're expecting. But this "Oh no. Someone didn't tip. I'll never make rent!" is bullshit. Turnover is the key feature here. On a shift that encompasses a meal time a waitress might serve 100-120 customers. Assuming most of them tip about $2. this is $200-$240 . Suppose some people stiff. This is still going to be $160-$200. Worse things happen in life.
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>>69401350
Uh-oh. The panting ignoramus who slops food around for $2 a day doesn't approve of my choices. I guess it's time to kill myself.
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>>69401629
OY VEY ANTISEMITE GIVE 6000000%
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You're all retarded. A tip is something you EARN. I'm obligated to pay you anything, that's your bosses job.

If I don't like you, or you do a crappy job, you're getting tipped the bare minimum.
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>>69401779
my first car was $500 to buy and $300 to fix up. Drove it for 6 years.

Anyone who spends a large sum of money on century-old technology is an idiot in my books
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>>69400046
>having to tip so your server doesn't end up homeless
oh you truly are the land of the free
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>>69401116
Returning customers directly benefit the establishment, not the waiters, unless they tip.
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>>69400140

When I left America ten years ago, it was 15%.

I was recently visiting home (to cast my ballot for Trump), and noticed my family members now all pay 20% tips.

What the fuck happened to America? This is some shifty shit, forcing hidden costs onto consumers.

Here in Japan, service at restaurants is great. The price on the menu is the actual price of the food. There is no retarded tipping system.
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I only tip whites. Niggers can suffer and live on the streets for all I care
>inb4 faggot, you're contributing to nigger hatred
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>have a shitty job that pays 3 bucks an hour

lmao
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>>69401859
It's not a handout. For what I understand its an american tradition, only edgy children and poor people refuse to tip
Yeah man you are so against the system bro, not tipping the poor fucks who bring you food, that will surely make the country great
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Quebec here. Our taxes are 15%, so everyone here automatically looks at the taxes and matches that in tips.

It's why we're known for being low tippers when we visit the USA where the tax rate is much lower. Out of habit we look at the tax and match it, not realizing our mistake.

I've done this often. Kinda feel bad about it.
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>>69400046

(The following should be read in a Luis CK voice)

Fuck their back story. He's 17? Who gives a shit, you have taken from others your whole life, and you have no skills, is what that says to me. When your 30 your opinion will matter.

your shitty $3 and hour job is what you signed up for, no one made you do it. +plus tips is a bonus no a fucking entitlement. Do your job and be cheerful to get tips. Maybe you would get more if you gave a shit. Maybe you would get a promotion if you tried harder.

$7000 car for a 17 year old? How much of an irresponsible cunt are you? I am 31 and the car I bought earlier this month was $12000. Why? Because I am an adult. Save you fucking money and pay cash. Don't get weighed down in debt.

Lastly this joke is them trying to save you from going to hell. Oh sorry. They actually think highly enough to think they would like to see you there. There is group from the middle east that will blow your ass up because you are the wrong kind of THEIR religion. Sorry to oppress you there.

Secondly lastly I tip 25% mostly because I have messy ass kids.
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>>69400046
Here's your tip
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>>69402035
faggot, you're contributing to nigger hatred
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>>69400046
>can't afford to subsidize the wages the employer should be paying? don't eat out.

Tipping has gotten out of hand. Can't count the number of times I've gotten poor food and service only to have the server get cocky and subtly insult me. Sorry I don't think you deserve this extra $3 because you carried a plate of hot, disgusting sick to my table when I'm very capable of ordering my food and picking it up myself.

Where's my tip? Where's the tip for the chefs who COOKED my meal?
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>>69402061
I can walk to the kitchen and grab it myself if it's so fucking hard

get the fuck out of here
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>>69401404
Tipping bartenders is absolutely retarded unless maybe you're like the only person at a really upscale place and you're asking for complicated drinks. Just pretend you're drunk and forgot to tip or something. I mean for fuck's sake, most bars are gonna charge you like $5 for a fucking beer that requires no effort to prepare.
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>doesn't have a real job
>gets into debt
back when i was 17 you got a part time job so you could eat out with your friends or go see a movie
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>>69400046
>$3/hour

why work there
what a moron
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>>69401693
The thing he's leaving out is that it's only a block away.
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>>69401767
>chihuahas as the description of modern american women
I dig it.

>>69401873
This.

>>69402018
>10/10
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>>69401767
What happens if you go out with other women?
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>>69401404
>give the bartender an extra dollar or 2 for a drink
>he now gets me my snake bites super fucking fast
>If I order a rum and coke he puts in extra rum
>If I bring a girl he puts date rape drugs in her drink for me

Seriously it is a net positive
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Just double the tax you fags.
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>>69401350
I think tips should be a reward, not an expectation. I personally only leave a decent tip if I look at the bill and can think of something the server did that was outstanding. If you do your job, you should get paid a reasonable wage, if you go above and beyond then you should get a bonus. As long as average food prices don't exceed the average rate at which you tip, you'd also be saving money.
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>>69400922
Is it weird that you're the world's most populous country, yet you're still a rareflag?
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>>69400833
>>69400846
>>69400930
>>69400941
>>69401071
>>69401138

>i am an overweight NEET that clings to my mom's allowance like a kike to his shekels

Also, good luck getting your employer to actually compensate you adequately. Have fun in the real word, nigger.
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>>69401532
Can you form a single constructive argument without resorting to name-calling?
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>>69402016
Attention span much?

Like I said: the owner of the establishment will make sure service is good.
Just like we will make sure the cooks prepare good food.
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>>69402001
>you're getting tipped the bare minimum
>doesn't like the service
>still tips
Cuck
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I always tip 20% and they always give me the sharpest plastic knives for my steak.
Coincidence I think not
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>>69400046
>7k in Dept for buying a car
If you can't afford a fucking car don't buy one.

My first car cost me like €1.4k and didn't need to borrow any money.

Why are people so irresponsible and stupid with money?
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The only people who bitch about tips are women, especially ones that work at bars thinking their tits are God's masterpiece.
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Also, I just realize why food trucks are slowly but certainly taking over these restaurant: you don't have to deal with these fucks.
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>>69400652

They get minimum wage and tips here in California.
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>>69402127

yeah, like having a bunch of gross niggers going into the kitchen isn't a huge health violation.

enjoy your diseases if everyone goes to the kitchen to get their food
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>>69401168
I was thinking the same.
/pol/ hivemind
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>>69402152
I did it as an excuse to not do chores around the house, which is kind of a shitty selfish thing to do, but it wasn't long after i got a job and a car that i became the family chauffeur
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>>69402088
>Secondly lastly I tip 25% mostly because I have messy ass kids.
Those bitches crying about the tip probably don't tip out the busboys who clean up after your kids.
>Jamal, I'm not tipping you out. I got kids to feed.
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>>69402236
Did I hurt baby's feelings? Cry more you fucking faggot.
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>>69400558
Yup, 10%, then fuckers started saying 15 is standard and now they're claiming 20.

I still do 10, fuck these faggots trying to increase it on me.
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>>69400046

>deadstate.org
>palma, cohen, wertz
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>can't afford car
>buys car
>consents to being paid $3/hr
>mad when people don't give him more
wew

Tips are for good service
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>>69400046

Yes, because the SJWs will convince the burger flippers they deserve it.

What are you gonna do, stop eating out? Learn to live with burgers drenched in pee?
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>>69402225
I am indeed overweight.

But I have my own software company.
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>>69400922
What kind of psy-ops are you running? I basically live amongst chinks from all the chink places and none of them tip.
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>>69402168
Butchiest chick foots the bill, which means they both pay.
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>>69400140
it's like 10 to 15
10 is average service
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>>69401650
>enabling retardation
>caring about your countrymen
Pick one, asshat
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Why is it a percentage though?

How is the price of the meal related to the quality of the waiters' service?
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>>69402011
and how many times has your car gotten you laid?
>waiter: 1
>leaf: 0
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>socially expected tipping
I'll tip occasionally if I get very good service and I think they deserve it. I'm glad it's not an expected thing here in Aus though.
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>>69402225
Found the butthurt server who loses it when people don't tip him.
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>paying for the food AND paying the employees' wages
JUST
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>>69400046
>$3/h

>America
>not a 3rd world shithole
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They're clearly going to starve and die because they were too stupid to get a real job. Since they're gonna die, at least they can get into heaven by following this Jesus notes advice.
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>requiring to tip someone a standard percent
>give no incentive to be a friendly server

im not gonna tip anything if i get shit service.
im not gonna give you money for walking my food over if you arent gonna atleast make it seem like you give a percent of a fuck.

>taxing tips
>taxing generosity.
>lets just tax every driver that gives a homeless person some money.
>lets tax someone who cares about others
>lets tax everything becuase im fucking jewish.

just like fishing "licenses." fuck you we were doing fine for thousands of years fishing and some jew wants more money? fuck off print your own fucking money if you want it that badly
dirty fucking kikes. thank god for this cesspool of words
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>>69401404
I was in Montreal with my girlfriend last New Years and we ordered some drinks. In Ontario I usually leave a nice tip when I buy my last drinks of the night. I don't drink often (few times a year) so when I do I feel it's fine to tip big especially if the people are nice.

So we order drinks and the guy gives them to us and hands me cash. I put it in my pocket and he walks away. Like 15 minutes later I go back up and order more, and he brings them over but this time he put the change on the bar. I grabbed it and he yelled in front of everyone there

"You know that tip isn't included right?" and walked off.

Anyway next time I went up I waited for a good 10 minutes and he refused to even look over at me. I was going to give him a $40 tip because it was New Years and I like to give the benefit of the doubt.

So the other bartender (a girl) finally comes over and takes my order. Goes and gets the drinks and while she is pouring the guy comes up and whispers something in her ear and she looks over at me. She comes by and I handed her $60. I told her to show him what happens when you don't act like a shithead. She had a good laugh and told me he wasn't well liked at all there.

Fuck people who make a stupid scene like that over a few dollars in tips.
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>>69402290
if i get sick, i sue. If they don't want me to get sick, that means they don't want people in the kitchen, which means they need people to be dedicated servers, which means THEY CAN FUCKING PAY THEM, NOT ME
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>>69400046
>17 year-old

IT'S FUCKING SUMMER JOB GET OVER YOURSELF FAGGOT
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>>69402142
>Tipping bartenders is absolutely retarded unless you like getting your drinks quickly

I've tried this no tipping route. You get service eventually, but only when they're sure that every other customer in the bar has whatever they need.
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>>69402215
Google is blocked in China so they can't post without a pass
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Last big tip I left was in North Carolina.

Southern belle knew what she was doing and worked me over good.

Such a cute accent~
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>>69402290
like having a bunch of gross mexican working illegally in the kitchen isn't
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>>69400046
How the fuck do you get 7000$ in debt from a car at age 17? My first car was a Jeep I bought for 1500$ in cash I had from saving up from a minimum wage job, and that was in 2010.
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>>69401844
This is true of most laws. They are only enforced when egregious acts against them are committed.
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>>69400381
ahahahaahahha

thats a great idea.
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>>69401962
Dude they are way more lucrative than minimum wage. Waiters are some of the most overpaid and under qualified people in this country.

I would actually prefer to tip some hard-working single person supporting a family, but 99 percent of waiters are either entitled college fags or huge stoner shitbags. Seriously - check who the people are who cry about this shit.
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>>69400046
>argument based on "i'm more compassionate than you"
yawn, typical braindead liberals

there's a rationale behind tipping, it isn't "you have to give these people charity because you're a bad person if you don't"

if tipping didn't exist, the restaurant would roll that cost into your bill anyway
tipping gives you the freedom to decide what your waiter is worth, and it gives incentive to the waiter to do a great job. it won't always work out that way, but generally it will
this is a capitalistic idea and lefties hate capitalism. they want to FORCE you to pay more
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>>69402358
Sure you do, Mohhamed.
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>>69400140
For those who are curious.
>>69400558
This guy is right. It used to be 10% back in the day. Somewhere along the line, it was bumped up (culturally) to 15%. We're currently in a slow moving period where 20% is being pushed as the cultural norm. Most people agree it's somewhere between 15 and 20%.

How do they change this arbitrary rule, you might ask?
Well, have you ever gotten a receipt with the amount of tip suggested written out for you, as if to make your math life easier? That's how. They just casually start reporting the higher rates. It hasn't been adopted universally, so it hasn't been accepted universally.

Generally speaking though. Tips are not compulsory. I was brought up to tip for good service, good experience, good food, etc. I have had poor service, and I have likewise tipped poorly.
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>>69402418
I don't need a job or a vehicle to get women for me, nigger.
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>>69402480
in all honesty fishing licenses do keep people from draining rivers and lakes from fish, atleast here it does.
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>>69402520
>In debt after buying his own car
>17
Well, at least his parent's probably aren't charging him that much interest.
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I hate tipping but I generally tip 20% every time regardless of the service unless it was utter shit. I only eat out like 5 times a year so it's only like $100 or so
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>>69402558
Some kid financed his car entirely on payday loans.
;-)
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I only give large tips to hotel cleaners.

Unlike waiters, cleaners do get payed below minimum wage.
How come nobody ever starts threads about that injustice?
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Why do a lot of servers act entitled to tips anyways? People act like its a hard job and while it seems like its a lot of work during actual shifts, you aren't paid for how hard you work, you are paid for your level of skill. Anyone with an ounce of charisma and the ability to put in work can probably handle a job in waiting. For an actually decent paying job, it usually takes time to develop specialist skills that a limited number of other people possess, but a larger group of people find great value in.
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>>69400046
How isn't tipping tax evasion? By tipping you're basically saying that it's OK to not pay taxes if you don't feel for it.

By accepting tipping you're being a giant dick to everyone that actual pay taxes.
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Tipping country: waitress gets $3 + tips, which equals generally $15-20/hr at a nice restaurant, and can spend that extra money on other things in the economy besides simply her rent

Non-tipping country: waitress gets 10/hr and lives month to month.

>>69402447

nice try, canacuck. You have the same exact system
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>>69402502
What the fuck. In the UK you just pay for the fucking drink and get your fucking drink and change back.
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>>69400140
>>69400140
10% for lunch (unless it's a really busy day or my table is big and the service is good)

15% for dinner
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>>69402750
cuz they're illegals
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>>69402750
Hotel cleaners tend to be spics so nobody here gives a shit
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>>69402273
Sadly, you have to deal with hipsters instead when it comes to food trucks in America.
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>>69400618
>stare them down while they make your food.
I hate you
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SOMEONE POST THAT SHIT FROM YESTERDAY WERE SANDERS ONLY TIPPED $2.44 FOR $15
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>>69402111
This. This shit right here.>>69402111

Id prefer to tip the mexicans working in the back than some fedora-tipping wait staff shitbag.
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>>69400140
It's 15% for food, 20% for a cab or a barber
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>>69402712
at least, but he should have saved up money instead of being in debt
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Why would that retard buy a $7,000 dollar car if he makes shit money? Thats his fault.
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>>69402388
How is it retardation ? Not everyone is able to become to a doctor or engineer, that's just how the world is. 'Lesser' people will always exist and telling them to 'just fix your life bro' is stupid. I understand that making peoples lives -too- easy might not be the best thing to do but still, you don't need to be an asshat and make their lives even shittier. I sure you don't tell the people who bring food to you : BRO IM NOT GIVING YOU ANY TIPS BCUS I WANT YOU TO FIX YOUR LIFE AND BE BETTER BRO, nah you are probably just a cheap fuck who wants to spend those 10 dollars on vidya or some shit (or weed).
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>not living in a country with $26 minimum wage
>not living in a country where tipping is illegal
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>>69402016
I would say not having the establishment fail and close, robbing them of their jobs, benefits the workers more than a little.
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>>69401133
This.
I didn't choose the life I'm born into.
I didn't choose to have my mom walk out on me and my 71 year old father.
Should I be punished for trying to make sure my father and j have a good over our heads and food in the fridge?
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I usually tip 35%. 45% if I had a really good time. Never below 20% because I have manners.
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The tipped minimum wage is horrible. It should be the same as regular minumum wage.
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>>69402750
They have to go back
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What the fuck is the difference between bad service and good service? All I fucking want the waiter to do is take my order and bring my food. How can anyone fuck this up, and how can anyone be "exceptional" at doing this?
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>>69402684
Plus all the money from the fishing licenses is used to improve water quality for the fish.
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http://louderwithcrowder.com/irony-alert-bernie-sanders-is-one-cheap-tipper/

http://louderwithcrowder.com/irony-alert-bernie-sanders-is-one-cheap-tipper/

http://louderwithcrowder.com/irony-alert-bernie-sanders-is-one-cheap-tipper/

http://louderwithcrowder.com/irony-alert-bernie-sanders-is-one-cheap-tipper/

http://louderwithcrowder.com/irony-alert-bernie-sanders-is-one-cheap-tipper/
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>>69402820
>>69402841
in netherlands?
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>>69402225
Oh shit, you're a waitress AND you're fucking dumb. You had NO idea that your employer is supposed to pay you the equivalent of minimum wage if your tips don't add up.

Also, why the fuck did you accept $2.13 an hour, and then have the fucking nerve to complain to ME about the job you took?

Tips are extra, dickface. get your boss to pay you something you can live off of, or even better, learn to do something besides carry things to people with enough money to pay to have unskilled labor like you carry their food to them.

If anyone deserves a tip it's the cook, you greedy fuck. I'm sorry you find it difficult to remember orders, even when your job provides you with a little pen and paper to write shit down with, and even sorrier that you took a job with THAT as it's main requirement.
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why even have waiters? just prepare the food and tell me when it's ready so I can go to the service area and get my plates. It's literally the most unneeded job in the world.
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>>69402652
Oh and, by the way - these days I use the "double the tax" method. Which I believe comes out somewhere in the ballpark of 16%-18%
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>>69402935
KEK
U
C
K
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>>69402909
>not living in a country where a drink cost $20
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>mfw waiter friends post on Facebook, bitching that they came home with "only" $100 tonight
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>>69400046
Here's a tip:

If you don't like your job...quit!
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>>69402789
>Non-tipping country
>10/hr

Make it 15+occasional tip, not mandatory nor expected, and you're spot on.
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>It's 15% for food, 20% for a cab or a barber
what is this barbarism
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>>69402891
>tipping a taxi driver
More autism
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>>69400806
>Clickbait article states that if you don't tip, don't eat out.
>stupid teenager buys a car he cannot afford, so he takes out ridiculously bad loans
>i am supposed to feel bad for his financial choices
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>>69402867
HE HAD TO TIP LESS TO PAY FOR HIS NEW CAR

Give the poor old man a break, he's busy not being bought by billionaires.
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