What's up with the Islam hate on this board?
Islam has helped us create our western values in the year 800.
Islamic philosophy ( yes such a thing exists ) has translated a lot of Greek material that had been lost to us. They proceeded applying this knowledge to subject we now know as math, astronomy, architecture, ethics and several others. This tells me that the core believe of Islam back then was open and nurturing enough to allow for change and scientific research. Something we nowadays consider impossible, since we see Islam as a static belief. Therefor I conclude that the main reason for the islamic paradigm shift must be geographical in nature.
>>69355997
Because of the violence
>>69355997
It's nice that they did what they did in the intellectual field in the year 1100. Who cares now.
This is a bait thread
>>69355997
Bahahahah
A German cuck
Protip: kill yourself!
>>69356109
Yes but this violence didn't exist 50 years ago, it all started when the USA were trying to invade these countries.
>>69356210
No it started hundreds of years ago.
>>69355997
>flag
Checks out.
>>69356210
>MUH USA AND THE WESTERN WORLD IS EVIL
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
>WE WUZ PEACEFUL WITH MATHS AND SHEEIT!
>>69355997
>Nice bait m8
>>69355997
it's not the 8th or 12th century anymore tbqh, also mass migration from shitty Islamic countries
>>69355997
Here's a (You)
>>69355997
(You)
>>69356210
>he thinks muslims are only recently violent
>>69356210
>this violence didn't exist 50 years ago
I think the Spanish and Romanians would disagree
>>69355997
>t. mohammad
you
>>69356622
There were no muslim attack on Spain or Romania 50 or 60 years ago.
>>69356210
>german flag
>german flag complaining about why people odn't like islam
>Someone counteracts his point
>IT'S BECAUSE OF THE GOD DAMN USA
EVERY
SINGLE
FUCKING
TIME
>hey Germany, why is europe so shit
>AMERICA WAGES WAR
>hey Germany, why did you make greece a welfare state
>BECAUSE OF AMERICA
>hey Germany, why did you lose every war you've ever been in
>AMERICA!!!!
God I hate german people so fucking much
Worse then canadians
>>69357353
Muslims wouldnt hate us and the USA so much if we didnt attack and kill them though, we deserve whats happening to us right now and you know it
>>69355997
>Islamophobia
Does not exist.
>>69358457
>we deserve
No Hanz
Only you deserve it
Cuck
>>69358457
Turkroach detected.
>>69358457
No they started this almost 1400years ago and now we're getting payback
>>69355997
>steal greek and hindi knowledge
>take credit for it
>>69355997
Phobia is not hate
Sage this faggotry
>>69355997
Come visit balkans, we show you good welcome.
Islam isn't what Muslims do. It's what Muslims should do. Why not talk about the peaceful Muslim-majority countries like Morocco, Indonesia, Qatar, Iran, Sweden, Palestine, and Malaysia?
The greatest wars in history (WWI, WWII, The 7 Years War, Vietnam, etc.) were fought by Christians, Atheists, Buddhists, Shintos and Jews. Who built and dropped the atomic bomb?! CHRISTIANS AND ATHEISTS ON SHINTOS AND BUDDHISTS. None of it had to do with Muslims until people started invading and bombing some oil-rich Muslim-majority countries.
>over 9000 hours to draw this shit with the mouse.
Even I had to postpone my third siesta, but it's woth it... I hope.
>>69355997
>This tells me that the core believe of Islam back then
>back then
>>69355997
Fuck off Hitler.
>>69359655
Islam still has the same prophets and the same beliefs, holy books, and God. People are fallible and will deviate.
>>69358457
Roach
>>69358457
>we deserve.
Oh man the liberal white guilt is dripping here.
Islamic contributions are minimal senpai.
>preserve the works of others
>"golden age"
I don't really care about muslims because my country isn't overrun with them and I am unlikely to ever experience a muslim attack.
Still, one has to be on guard. Rome was sacked by barbarians.
>Muslims steal Roman manuscripts
>Hurrr see they were science and shit
We'd be living on Mars now if the Roman Empire were never attacked.
>>69355997
Angela gib a ruh!
>>69359313
>no greece
;~;
>>69356622
On Italy costs Arabs often came and when they have raid and burnt the cities, they made all population slave and sold on the market.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayreddin_Barbarossa
>>69360037
>>Roman Empire stilling manuscripts from Egyptian empire and them stealing it from another one its called human fucking each other throw history.
so shit post and STFU u little moose shit
>>69360519
we fucked you in the past you doing it now. taking turns
>>69355997
It's brainwashed Americans that won't/can't admit that the real issue is their kike ruling class.
Negros kill exponentially more people than muds, same goes with hispanics, but burgers aren't allowed to address the jewish question. Notice how they've almost been made a minority in their own lands without so much as a whimper.
>>69360519
btw islam is not the problem. Religions are the problem. Fucking imaginary friends...
>>69360999
you still medieval...that's the problem. Until religions exist nothing will change
>>69355997
A lot has changed since the year 800. The geniuses of yestermillenium are today's drooling retards.
>>69355997
You have two choices Ahmet:
>Go back to your sandy shithole
>Get kicked into an oven by a bunch of angry Germans
>>69361040
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
YOU FAGGOTS DON'T EVEN HAVE A NATIONALIST PARTY
HOW ARE YOU EVEN TALKING
>>69356210
Tell that to the Barbary states.
>>69361401
> A FUCKING STRIPE
Burgers give nothing but the dankest rebuttals. Kid you live in a two party state run for and by kikes. Our point based immigration system has a 80%+ approval rating, even the cuck Trudeau brought in a child tax credit because whites weren't reproducing enough.
http://www.budget.gc.ca/2016/tool-outil/ccb-ace-en.html
>>69361312
1400 years of inbreeding will do that to a population.
>>69355997
lol
>>69355997
>What's up with the Islam hate on this board?
>looks at flag
Mit Scharf, Mehmet!
>>69355997
>back then
Okay, but right now they're the backward savages.
>>69359655
What the fuck is wrong with your flag?
This period in history was neither Islamic or Arabic. It was mostly central Asians and of diverse religions. The lingua franca was Arabic due to Islamic conquest, and they promptly finished the job of killing off this enlightenment.
>>69355997
t. Ahmed Muhammad
>>69355997
You're a funny guy
>>69359313
And we behead you too. Well not all but muslims do.
>>69356210
>Germany
>>69361677
>80% approval rating
Is that after or before he sold all your gold, removed the last of your military and set you in a defecit that will take decades to recover from
Oh wait
I forgot the best part
>FREE INCOME FOR EVERYONE
Enjoy your fiat currency you worthless fuck
Maybe china will take you out of your mercy soon enough so that you can stop spouting terrible fucking memes
>>69355997
>Be French
>Lose hundred of people because of Islam
The Syriac-speaking CHRISTIANS translated the greek texts, they received from the greek-speaking CHRISTIANS, it wasn't the arabs at all.
>>69356210
>what are the crusades
This is the kind of person that gets created when there is no emphasis on learning history
>>69356210
This particular wave of violence is down to the spread of Wahhabi ideas through the internet.
But Islam has been violent for over a thousand years.
>>69358457
Your self-hatred is absolutely repulsive.
Just please do it alone, the rest of fucking Euros is tired of paying for your mistakes.
>>69355997
>Therefor I conclude that the main reason for the islamic paradigm shift must be geographical in nature.
This is the current level of English taught at Arab universities
>>69356210
>What is history
>>69364071
Even the Turk gets it.
>>69356210
no it didn't you damn idiot we stepped in to stop your retarded violence, since the 1930's maybe earlier Islam has blown up themselves always. They are mad because we want them to end stop killing eachother noone deserves to die, over stupidity and being a mongol to your own people.
>What's up with the Islam hate
Islam Hates Me
>>69358457
Not at all. America has a pretty sketchy foreign policy, and it meddles in affairs it ought not. Vietnam was a stupid waste of time and lives, as was Iraq. But most Iraqis were glad to see the back of Saddam. The US and the west are damned if they do and damned if they don't, IS makes recruits because the US 'hadn't intervened' or 'hasn't intervened enough' in Syria. No doubt western interference has made a bad situation worse, but that is no excuse really
>>69355997
kill yourself cuck and don't try to justify your cuckoldry
No matter how much /pol/ will nitpick, it is an established fact that pretty much of all islamic terrorism, and anti-western attitudes coming from the middle east exist because of the damage left by major western countries.
>>69359539
gr8 b8 m8
Every Muslim country, and every country with Muslims, is a breeding ground for Islamic extremism. Islamic extremism is a fairly new phenomenon in the world, in that it spreads terror for no real geopolitical objective. It is illogical, indiscriminate.
Heard of the Ottoman Empire? I think it was in WWI m80
>>69358457
>>69355997
La sonorité horrible et vociférante de la langue arabe, les hommes en robe et à barbe dégueu, les femmes couvertes de la tête aux pieds, la polygamie, le raï, le couscous merguez, l'huile, les bars à chicha, le haschich, les petites magouilles au coin de la rue, les embrouilles, le ramadan, la phobie du ralouf, le kebab frites sauce algérienne avalé à 2h du mat', les chouineries sur la Palestine, la parabole au balcon, les tapis orientaux aux couleurs criardes, les "bismillah mashallah salam alikoum", le mouton égorgé dans la baignoire, les Audi de location les jours de mariage, la bouteille d'eau dans les chiottes, le tutoiement généralisé, les youyous, les tatouages au henné, l'éducation laxiste ponctuée de grandes tartes dans la gueule et de menaces de mort, et un MILLION d'autres trucs.
Les muslims sont, dans le meilleur des cas, des matérialistes horriblement dominateurs et mécaniques, dévorant de la nourriture très grasse, très lourde et très calorique.
Hier encore je me suis retrouvé dans le bus assis en face d'un muzz', c'était dingue le regard de haine qu'il avait. Il avait les traits littéralement dévorés par le nihilisme et le pulsion de mort projetée vers l'extérieur (d'ailleurs je signale que l'Islam est cent mille fois plus nihiliste que le pire des post-humains occidentaux, par définition). Et TOUS ont cette lueur, ce regard fou. Toutes les beurettes que j'ai vu l'avaient, et ne le quittaient jamais, - même en levrette !
Ces gens sont littéralement dévorés par la haine et le ressentiment, ne cherchent qu'à écraser, parader, luire, leur rêve est d'être un gros pacha écrasé dans des coussins à regarder des blancs se faire décapiter au cimeterre en s'enfilant des dattes et des pâtisseries à l'huile.
Je suis Charlie.
>>69364598
Something similar could be said for Christian countries.
>>69364596
Why don't Indian Hindus and Chinese Buddhists engage in indiscriminate acts of slaughter in Western countries?
>>69364807
Christian countries are breeding grounds for Islamic extremism? How right you are Cletus McBurger
>>69364596
If you mean by arming them, or taking them out of the literal stone age, then I guess?
>>69355997
>Islamic philosophy ( yes such a thing exists ) has translated a lot of Greek material that had been lost to us.
No you fucking idiot, you are thinking of the Byzantines. When Constantinople fell to the mudshits in 1453, byzantine scholars fled to Italian city states, along with their knowledge of ancient greek material, which helped to spark the Italian renaissance.
>>69365122
This is actually dubs of truth, however it is also true to say that Islamic philosophy, literature, and science was ahead of that actually produced by the Byzantines. Not that the Byzantines were slouches in these areas (I would rate Byzantine visual art and history as superior to Islamic, and music equal or slightly superior). Few of the literary and almost none of the non-religious philosophical or scientific figures were actually Arab though
>>69364845
The U.S never tried to colonize those parts.
>>69364973
You do know that the CIA was partly responsible for removing leaders in the middle east, right?
>>69365708
Why should only the US take the flak? The Indians still have enormous resentment from British imperialism, but have never engaged in indiscriminate violence towards Brits post-independence.
CIA has a black record, but nothing compares with how Muslim leaders treat their own people. Abu Ghraib has nothing on Saddam's and Bashar's state instruments of terror. What about the Turkish genocides of Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians? Turkey has never compensated for these atrocities, and has a denialist posture.
I have no problem with admitting the evils of the west, but the Middle East is a hellhole and the west has virtually nothing to do with it
>>69364973
Some middle eastern countries were actually pretty progressive, until the west interfered.
>>69366069
Read http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html
>>69366070
Rubbish. Lebanon was progressive only when non-Muslims were in the majority. When the Muslims became numerous enough, they started massacring Christians. Then Israel intervened in order to help the Christians. What other examples to you have? Tunisia? I don't think anybody intervened there, they just became more and more extremist all by themselves
>>69366070
Like Turkey?
>progressive policies have any lasting power in the muslim world
>>69355997
go suck some muslim micropenis
>>69366184
This doesn't explain why of all places, the Islamic world is the epicentre of acts of indiscriminate slaughter against people of all faiths, including Islam itself. Something inherent in the faith seems to promote cowardly illogical acts of mass murder.
Are you Bernie Sanders by any chance?
Buleihi: "When we review the names of Muslim philosophers and scholars whose contribution to the West is pointed out by Western writers, such as Ibn Rushd, Ibn Al-Haitham, Ibn Sina, Al-Farbi, Al-Razi, Al-Khwarizmi, and their likes, we find that all of them were disciples of the Greek culture and they were individuals who were outside the [Islamic] mainstream. They were and continue to be unrecognized in our culture. We even burned their books, harassed them, [and] warned against them, and we continue to look at them with suspicion and aversion. How can we then take pride in people from whom we kept our distance and whose thought we rejected?...
>>69366278
The west never interfered in Turkey, and Turkey never was held to account for its genocides
>>69355997
Islam has been Europe's traditional enemy for centuries and now they are taking over without firing a single shot. Goodbye white, Christian Europe.
>>69366509
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3264.htm
>>69366556
That's my point you fucking descendant of inbred criminals
>>69355997
>Islam has helped us create our western values in the year 800
How do you even breathe being this thoroughly incompetent.
>>69355997
name me 3 important/known islamic philosophers.
>>69366788
I was backing you up Cletus McFuckStick, go and buttplug your mother/sister or some other farm animal
>>69366838
Averroes
Avicenna
Omar Khayyam
there you go
>They wuz good bois 1200 years ago
>>69355997
>Germany
every time
>>69366332
>That only a small minority of Muslim
newcomers unequivocally reject terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah or the Iranian regime gives pause
for thought.
those sources are riddled with jewry and bias toward Israel tbf
>>69366487
Muslims are demonized in the U.S, they have been tortured by the U.S, the Iraq war, womenhave been raped, and killed by U.S soldiers, I could go on. Radical people use this as fuel for their ideology, which causes more, and more people to join radical groups.
>>69355997
Eat pig and die you disgusting subhuman muslim
>>69355997
Taqiyya
>>69366838
The Islamic golden age was more known for its science.
The closest thing I know of off the top of my head to a philosophic tradition is Sufi mysticism. Muslims were never secular so there was no need for philosophy, they explored the world through the medium of religion.
Then ancient-day ISIS burned it all down and their people have been crawling around in the dark ever since.
>>69367393
This has happened throughout history. Courageous men take up arms, but not using cowardly tactics of indiscriminate slaughter. Yes the US is also guilty of this, but it is not deliberate. The Islamists are just about the lowest of the low in terms of honourable warfare.
>>69355997
Blame groups like ISIS and young muslim males harassing the general population.
>>69367584
I don't think it was the Muslims who performed scaphism on people, burned them to stakes (which is what the Christians did, immolation is the most painful way to die), disemboweled them (the British people/christians invented many ways to torture/kill people), or quartered them. All these methods are western, and originated from Christians.
>>69355997
Because it's an ass backwards sand ideology that is everything I hate.
Fuck off Achmed.
>>69356210
BLAME THE WEST
>BLAME THE WEST
BLAME THE WEST
>BLAME THE WEST
BLAME THE WEST
>BLAME THE WEST
>>69368057
Edit: except for maybe the scaphism, still came from the western part of the world. It probably didn't come from christians though.
>>69356210
even you can't be this retarded, mudslime
>>69368057
>Scaphism, also known as the boats,[1] was an ancient Persian method of execution
If we are talking about 1000s or hundreds of years ago, we can find numerous atrocities on both sides. The Muslims were the aggressors. They subjugated millions of Middle Eastern Christians and subjected them to degrading treatment for centuries. They tried to impose their Satanic dogma globally, and it took millions of lives to resist them. The Turks engaged in some of the most despicable acts of genocide in history, as did the Muslim Tamerlane. It is believed strongly by some that these atrocities pale by comparison with the Islamic conquests of India, in which 10s of millions were slaughtered. Now the Islamists show their true Satanic colours in their despicable methods of terror, trying to export their failed miserable ideologies into relatively decent functioning societies
>>69368315
The people who have tortured most Muslims are indigenous Middle Eastern leaders and terrorist leaders. Have you heard of Saddam's human shredder? Heard of Assad's policy of child torture? The leaders of the ME know only too well that you can't control a nest of vipers with kind words alone
http://www.almuslih.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=293:dn-and-dunya-and-the-failure-of-arab-enlightenment&catid=56:islam-and-rationality&Itemid=245
>>69356210
>it all started when the USA were trying to invade these countries.
Not really, it started with the sickes-picot. But yeah wahabbism and takfiri extremism is the main cause of islamic terrorism, which hardly existed 50 years ago.
It's a shame we went after saddam, qadaffi and assad do hard, because they really kept the jihadis at bay.
>Terrorist bombings
>Beheadings of infidels
>Pedophilia
>Enslavement of infidels
>Bestiality
>Irrationality
>Feeling of entitlement, everyone has to bend over to their demands
>Garbage smell where they live
Yeah there's no reason to hate islam
>>69368863
>Saddam's human shredder
Now that's some Mortal Kombat shit
>>69368544
>>69368863
You seemed to have changed the topic. We were not arguing which group was worse, but what caused Islamic terrorism.
>>69356622
>>69360519
Why do people always revert to "muh piracy and invasions" when the ottomans were literally genociding the armenians almost exactly 100 years ago for being Christians.
Muslims are hateful, authortarian scum and if anything, they're worse now than they have ever been before, they just lack the power to subjugate us and force us to follow their beliefs... for now.
>>69369493
It's a little known fact that Saddam's favourite method of execution was uppercutting prisoners off the stage and onto spikes.
>>69369571
You're the one who brought that shit up, he only responded
>>69367042
Omar Khayyam and Averroes were atheists
