Is North Korea really as bad as they say it is?
Or is it just the Jewish media trying to make them look bad in every way because they are not controlled by the Jews? They haven't sold their economy and country to foreign interest / they seem very national communist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7KC_OaKgBw
>>69352004
watch vids of defectors explaining what its like
>>69352004
It's much worse than we know. All we really know for sure is what life is like in the capitol, where life is just a big show put on to impress the west. Once in a while a tourist will come across non-ornamental soldiers, and they are all emaciated skeletons. We know that there were many starvation deaths in the 90s, also cannibalism. Under communism you are basically always one central planning mistake away from that.
>>69352004
I don't think it's as bad as many people, or the general media, says it is.
Is it amazing and good and great?
No.
Is it a shitty hellscape?
Also no.
I think they're comparable to rural China. And if one considers them 'third world', or the like, they have managed to do better than many of their competitors despite massive economic sanctions.
I can dump some NK pics and answer questions on NK law and stuff if anyone is interested.
North Korea is a giant laboratory.
These people are not degenerated by chemicals in the food, keep this in mind.
>>69352004
Probably better than Detroit or Rotherham so u till we get our act together I don't think we should complain. We have homeless kids and foodbanks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3515122/Kim-Jong-warns-North-Koreans-prepare-chew-roots-country-heads-devastating-famine.html
>>69356141
this is true
it is all doomed
>>69356508
NORTH KOREA BEST KOREA
>steal poster
>get 15 years hard labor
>>69356508
>>69356508
Hi Kim
>>69352004
It is great country; media lie.
North Korea is best place on Earth.
>>69356508
Pics of north Korea pls.
>>69352004
That city looks like a motherboard
>>69356508
Gib proxy
>>69356141
Only the strong and skilled will survive that famine. After millions of people die the government will have more resources to distribute between the survivors. You know the wold will not give a fuck about you and there wont be any help coming, you are on your own and you will have to endure it till it ends.
Compare with India, 78 million without water and starving atm, on full gibsmedat mode, white cucks will give them all the resources so they can survive and fuck up again next year, they will start escaping in mass towards Europe.
>>69356938
i just checked my mobo and there's a military parade, how do i fix this
>be north chink
>wake up in working camp
>getting beat up
>dunno why
>doesnt even know there is a world outside
>ITS BECAUSE OF YOUR GRAND GRAND GRAND GRAND PARENT said kim wasnt the inventor of the gravity
>be in jail forever and maybe if you can make a children in this misery he will be in jail too
repeat
>>69356938
It's Seoul, South Korea.
>>69356755
it was the fins all along! they wear asian makeup and use the country to troll hard
>>69352004
That city has no seoul.
>>69356755
well at least weed is legal
>>69352004
Hey, I got drunk in that building!
Oh, and that other building!
Seems nice to me.
If they want to make money they should just dedicate an island to parties. No laws on anything. Make it open to foreigners only.
Make it 1000 USD a ticket for a month of free drugs and beer.
>>69352004
>Is North Korea really as bad as they say it is?
No it isn't.
>Or is it just the Jewish media trying to make them look bad in every way because they are not controlled by the Jews?
The corporate media uses this irrelevant country as a punching bag to pump up American nationalism (we're #1, they're poor, stupid, evil gooks) and to distract from the fact that globalization and the hollowing out of America's middle class by the corporations that run the media is building up the rest of Asia into a 21st century powerhouse. So CNN and the rest focus obsessively on some irrelevant poor country and infalte the supposed threat to a ridiculous degree.
>They haven't sold their economy and country to foreign interest
Yes they have, the North Korean elite would get on their knees and lick a Chinese businessman's sweaty balls for him to invest in their decrepit country.
>/ they seem very national communist.
They're very much into totalitarian nationalism, but South Korea is also extremely nationalistic, just in a different direction. China and Japan are also very nationalistic.
>>69357325
citation ?
>>69352004
Hard to say. Personally i think the media is over hyping how bad it is. Specially with the brainwashing thing, like with how they teach them that they have the worlds only unicorn cave, or that Kim-jong un shot a hole in one first time playing golf.
I dont doubt its shitty, but media is most likley making a chicken out of a feather.
>>69352004
like really old traains
>>69358218
Can't be worse than SJ. Sorry we'll be 3 hours late due to a leaf being on the track.
>>69355476
So it's an intentional experiment to see what happens to humans when they are fed natural food?
This is a kind of conspiracy theory my dad would come up with. Not in that it's not plausible, but that it's such an unnecessary stretch not really supported by anything in particular. Might as well say super advanced ducks live in the alpha centauri system. Can't prove or disprove it.
>all those tower blocks
battery farmed humans
>>69356508
are you that asian chick that lives near the chinese border?
>>69357180
>the government will have more resources to distribute between the survivors
Unless Kim eats it all, isn't he like slowly getting fatter and fatter?
>>69356652
What would happen if a North Korean took a shit by the Statue of Liberty or Mt. Rushmore or something? They'd be sent to Guantanamo!
>>69357886
This.
>>69358290
08a
>>69352004
Contrary to the popular belief, travel there isn't illegal. You can freely visit.
Now, ask yourself why nobody goes and comes back with good stories? Paid shills are being escorted the same way Walter Duranty was, as explained by Yuri Bezmenov. I'm always sceptical, but I'll give Yuri a pass.
Anyway, from recent underground news, free capitalist & market reforms are slowly but surely creeping in North Korea, which makes black market thrive, counter-info spreading etc.
North Korea will disappear in the next few years, either peacefully or by some minor conflict,but it's over for the fat despot and his idiot tankies in the West.
>>69358993
I want a north korean waifu.
They are pure and healthy - no hollywood kike media, no internet, no liberal brainwashing, no feminism, no monsanto food, no consumerism. I bet they even still blush.
North Korea is truly the best Korea. They have the best women in the world.
>>69359255
North Korea is the best Korea
>>69357819
They currently have a casino open only to tourists and other similar vacationy areas, sadly they aren't like all 'free zones', but I mention it to say they are flirting with the possiblity.
>>69359255
>>69358993
Aww hell someone else dumping pics?
I'll dump some more people too alongside random snippits of law and info.
>>69356508
HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S KIM
>>69359573
Too bad the trips are expensive. An individual trip is my 3 months salary.
Their legal sex age is 15.
Source:
Article 295 (Sexual Intercourse with a Minor)
A person who has sexual intercourse with a minor under the age of fifteen shall be punished
by reform through labour for less than five years. In cases where the person commits a grave offence, he or she shall be punished by reform through labour for more than five years and less than ten years.
Their punishments for crime are as follows:
Article 27 (Types of Punishments)
Punishments are:
1. Death
2. Life-time term of reform through labour
3. Limited term of reform through labour
4. Short-term labour
5. Deprivation of the right to vote
6. Confiscation of property
7. Removal of qualifications
8. Suspension of qualifications
>>69352004
Kim Jung Un doesn't sunbathe - the sun kimbathes.
Factors to consider when increasing the length of imprisonment:
Article 39 (Conditions for Determining Aggravated Penalties)
Penalties shall be aggravated in the following cases:
1. When the offender is the principal culprit in the crime;
2. When the offender has committed offences repeatedly or in collusion;
3. When the crime is committed by brutal ways and means;
4. When the offender commits a crime against a person who is under his protection or is his
subordinate;
5. When the offender commits a crime by taking advantage of a wartime or disaster situation.
Frontline had a near inside North Korea doc with smuggled footage of the real country. It's probably what China was like 40 years ago.
Factors to consider when reducing the length of imprisonment:
Article 40 (Conditions for Determining Mitigated Penalties)
Penalties shall be mitigated in the following cases:
1. When the offender is a passive culprit;
2. When the culprit is a first-time offender;
3. When the crime is committed under the influence of strong mental pressure;
4. When the offender is a juvenile;
5. When the offence is considered to meet the conditions for self defence or necessity;
6. When the offender confesses his or her guilt;
7. When the offender has previously contributed greatly to the country;
8. When the offender makes compensation for or restitution of the properties that he has
plundered or damaged;
9. When the victim is found with fault
>>69357886
>lick a Chinese businessman's sweaty balls for him to invest
Pretty sure the last nork to do that was executed or something..
Some of their economic directives:
Article 21. The property of the State belongs to all the people.
There is no limit to the property which the State can own.
All natural resources, railways, air transport service, post and
telecommunications establishments, as well as major factories and
enterprises, ports and banks of the country are owned solely by the
State.
The State shall protect and develop on a preferential basis State
property which plays the leading role in the economic development of
the country.
Article 22. The property of social, cooperative organizations is
collectively owned by the working people involved in the organizations
concerned.
Land, farm machinery and ships, as well as small and medium-sized
factories and enterprises may be owned by social, cooperative
organizations.
The State shall protect the property of social, cooperative
organizations.
>>69356141
Maybe if he would stop eating all the damn food this wouldn't happen
Article 23. The State shall enhance the ideological consciousness and
the technical and cultural level of the peasants, increase the role of the
property of all the people in leading the cooperative property so as to
combine the two forms of property in an organic way, and shall
consolidate and develop the socialist cooperative economic system by
improving the guidance and management of the cooperative economy
and gradually transform the property of cooperative organizations into
the property of the people as a whole based on the voluntary will of all
their members.
Article 24. Private property is property owned and consumed by
individual citizens.
Private property is derived from socialist distribution according to
work done and from supplementary benefits granted by the State and
society.
The products of individual sideline activities including those from
kitchen gardens, as well as income from other legal economic activities
shall also be private property.
The State shall protect private property and guarantee by law the
right to inherit it.
Article 36. In the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea foreign
trade is conducted by the State organs and enterprises, and social,
cooperative organizations.
The State shall develop foreign trade on the principles of complete
equality and mutual benefit.
>>69359859
And that's awesome. You will never be best Korea. I pity you.
>>69359526
soon i will hit my 3g quota
>>69359728
Look at all those well-fed elites.
> CAPTCHA: Select all the food
Article 70. Citizens have the right to work.
All able-bodied citizens may choose occupations in accordance with
their wishes and skills and are provided with stable jobs and working
conditions.
Citizens work according to their abilities and are paid in accordance
with the quantity and quality of their work.
----
This is the right they often criticize the US for lacking in their media - since they consider it to be a 'basic human right'. Funny different values.
>>69359728
this photos is picked like a cherry
or apples
Article 78. Marriage and the family shall be protected by the State.
The State pays great attention to consolidating the family, the basic
unit of social life.
>>69352004
>Jewish media
Lol the media does nothing but prop up NK journalists fucking love NK and all communism like Cuba etc
Are you some fucking Reddit troll?
>>69355476
LOL, what food??
>>69360113
Geospoofing is cool bruh, but at least get the kinds of food they actually pick right if you're gunna try and type like a bad engrishing speaking nork.
Article 12 (Treatment of Offender Who Commits Socially Dangerous Acts in a State of
Mental Disorder)
Criminal liability shall not be imposed on an offender who commits socially dangerous acts
while he or she is unable to judge his or her conduct or control himself or herself because of
chronic mental disease or a temporary mental disorder; medical measures may be adopted in
such cases. The foregoing paragraph does not apply to a person who commits an offence
under the influence of alcohol.
so like how do restaurants and crap even work over there
since everything is owned by everyone
they don't have money?
do you just say "give me food comrade" and they give it to you?
>>69360154
Lmao this deluded faggot.
>>69360310
they have north korean won
>>69360310
Depends on the restaurant and location. They do have money, and the money is used to exchange for food/goods/etc. and you do have an income from your work. But in addition to that, if you can't afford food, the state is supposed to provide it for you under their laws.
But the problem is that they don't have a mass amount of surplus food. So instead what you see most often in rural areas, but is present even in urban ones, is a "kitchen garden" - where every single individual grows foodstuffs on their balcony, porch, etc.
NK is great country. Everything that is said in the negative context about NK is Jewish propaganda, because Jews cannot stand that other system than capitalism actually works.
>>69360275
NK film
Article 5 (Principle of customs inspection)
The State shall ensure that the methods of customs inspection are improved and the means of inspection are updated so that inspection on cargoes and commodities, international postal matter, personal effects and transports moving across the borders are conducted timely and properly.
>>69360206
ok. . .
>>69360463
>>69360485
Got any pictures that aren't staged and are not taken in Pyongyang?
>>69352004
>cuts itself off from the global economy
>nationalist
>communist
Literally every one of those points is precisely why North Korea is a complete and utter shit. This is your beliefs in action, Natcucks.
>>69352004
THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN FROM SPACE. IT SHOWS NIGHT TIME IN THE SOUTH VS THE NORTH. YOU WILL NOTICE THERE ARE NO LIGHT IN THE NORTH. THEY CANT EVEN FEED THEIR OWN PEOPLE WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO AFFORD ELECTRICITY.
>>69360616
Using redstar doesn't really mean anything, bruh.
Especially when the current standard browser used in NK, especially in urban zones, is IE.
But nooo, you went for the old stereotype.
>>69360552
And that is a good thing. No human should be above another human. We are all equal. Everyone is made from the same blood, bones and organs.
North Korea has death camps but there aren't any kikes in them so nobody ie the media cares.
>>69360513
I like my Commies the way I like my jews: toasted and dead
>>69352004
Watch vice docs
See what the land is like , see what the people are like
Or,go to China
And try to visit yourself.you best chance would be to dress upas rodman
>>69360640
None of the photos are staged.
Many of them aren't from Pyongyang, I try to include the name of the location in the file name.
If you specifically want rural stuff, I will start to post that - just gimmie your preference. Pic related.
>>69360685
And that is a good thing. Humans should sleep at night, and work during the day. The lights at night is a product of capitalism.
>>69360711
you goon
you think this is red star?
i think you do not know so much
>>69360324
Lol fuck off leftwing cuck you will feel the bern when this year and all you fucks will be dealt with once and forever Trump will cuck NK so hard the chink will flee to Africa
>>69360685
You see lights = economy
I see it as pollution
You see it as they are poor
I see them as proud in their land not to pollute every inch with highways and skyscrapers
>>69360815
DISREGARDED
I have a friend who just came back from touring it. Its every bit as bad as they say
Article 5 (Protection of a foreigner's copyright)
The copyright of a corporate body or an individual whose country is a party to the convention to which the DPRK has acceded shall be protected by the convention. Where a corporate body or an individual whose country is not a party to the same convention makes public his works for the first time in the DPRK, the works shall be protected by this Law.
>>69360862
You done gooned.
>>69352004
North Korea is actually a really wonderful place! You should go check it out for yourself!
>>69352004
My ex boss worked for two years in NK, he often told me some really weird shit about the place. Everybody is spying on everyone, and have to produce daily written report and essays about other people, themselves and communism... No heat during the winter, scarce food supplies if the crops went bad, people affraid of being recorded while having a normal discussion with a foreigner...
My university have a program with NK, and they send students here every year during summer for a couple of months. I had to teach them a couple of times and each time it was a weird experience:
-Students were pretending being in their 30's but looked much older.
-All of them had a good amount of gold teeth
-They were always divided by groups of five, 3 students and 2 non-talkative fake students much stronger than the other three, with sunglasses and blue-grey clothes...
-Every year they were insisting on visiting and meeting everyone in the department (usually asking a fuckload of questions and distributing us their official propaganda magazine translated in english).
I have a lot of other stories about NK, i was willing to go there while i was stationned in China but was always kind of affraid of going there because i am pretty sure they have a file on me already...
>>69360815
/thread
>>69359255
No cars!?
so, what are the chances that south korea and north korea are on decent terms and are leveraging the "instability" in the region to milk money from the US and China?
it's a charade that can be kept up pretty easy. neither have the intention to go to war. bomb some deserted island every few years and test some missles.
>>69360962
intéressant, tu veux dire qu'ils envoient des mecs pour surveiller leur étudiants pendant le séjour?
>>69360724
Read about Pure communism and you will get why were Jews behind WW2.
>>69360944
that squat depth tho
>>69360962
Why wouldn't you visit ?
It isn't like you have American imperial interests
>>69359255
>huge city
>5 cars on the road
>>69353030
How do we know it's not the Juden behind these 'defectors' though?
Proceeding with rural dump.
>>69360975
Look at the road and zoom in. They don't have many, but they have some.
Here's a vid so you can see the very lacking traffic they have:
https://youtu.be/D4hLctBvojE
>>69360962
Knowing multiple people who still currently work in NK, visit their multiple times a year, etc.
Your experience doesn't at all mesh with theirs. I guess that's the power of perspective, or maybe just how people read others.
There is no requirement to spy on each other, there was no requirement for daily essays on ANYTHING. They do have a lack of food, but they have heat during the winter due to a mass conservation of electricity - so no lights, no electricity, and you get some basic heat primarily at night.
Their visiting students though are, I agree, annoying. I've met some, and I have some friends in China and South America who deal with them. Some are chill, but apparently a lot have this weird chip on their shoulder.
I so rarely have an opportunity to share this.
https://youtu.be/ujtp-70zQME
>>69361171
It helps you eat icecream bruh, hit dat parallel.
>>69356508
>>69360685
Inb4 best Korea claims they are just enviromentally conscienceous ahahaha
>>69361157
Ils font à peu près pareil au Vietnam, d'expérience personnelle.
>>69361241
>the whole country is as good as pyongyang!
pyongyang is the only place with electricity. i bet they're having a blast out there in skeleton village #4361
>>69361157
Oui c'est ça. h24 avec eux, impossible pour eux de faire un tour à la BU, en ville ou à la machine à café. Ils baissent toujours les yeux quand les types leur parlent. Un truc de fou...
>>69360711
>192.169.1.1
hmmm
>>69352004
they are gonna commit nuclear sucide this year. Of course it is kim is the fucking worst leader, china should have annexed them and we would have not had a single problem.
>>69361385
They do claim that, but not in response to the electricity thing.
Article 1 (Mission)
These regulations are adopted for the purpose of protecting natural and ecological environment and providing people with cultured and hygienic living environment by establishing strict discipline in creation and preservation of natural environment and prevention of environmental pollution in the economic development parks (EDPs).
+
Article 57. The State shall adopt measures to protect the
environment, giving it preference over production, preserve and promote
the natural environment and prevent environmental pollution so as to
provide the people with a hygienic living environment and working
conditions.
>>69360616
Does that window have the steam logo or am I delusional.
>>69360677
HAHAAHA stupid filthy globallist capitalist profiteer.
>>69352004
most what you hear is propaganda
im working on a movie exposing most lies about north korea including
the kim jong il "golf story" that the western media repeats over and over which is a lie
tons of "photoshop" stories that turned out as bullshit from the western media
gonna show the original "we eat birds on tuesday movie" that does not say anything of what that troll movie implied.
how south korea is still controlled military by the U.S
how U.S intelligence controls the elections
+ other lies you hear about north korea including why the nuclear deal was broken, and it was not north korea who broke it.
>>69361385
too late breh, some natcuck that want's to suck off Jong already did it for them >>69360914
>>69361543
gotta get some dota in somehow.
>>69361543
It does, but it's the logo from like 5 years ago
North Korean steam clone confirmed?
Its the best place to live, move there asap anon.
>>69361396
The whole country isn't as good as Pyongyang. I never said it was, and I keep distinctly making a separation in my answers for rural and urban areas.
but you are mistaken to say Pyongyang is the only one with electricity. Wonsan, North Hamgyong, etc. - especially the new Airport - do have electricity. It's urban vs. rural. The strongest electricity does, though, stick to Pyongyang.
If you're curious about how their grid lays out, pic related - I hope it helps.
As a legend to read the grid, here:
Blue & green - Hydroelectric power station
Red & orange - Fossil-fuel power station
Yellow - Nuclear power plant.
>>69352004
Tourists are restricted to special tourism areas. Tourists are not allowed in if they know Korean. The internet is completely forbidden to all people except high ranking officials. It is illegal to leave the country for any purpose. Their infrastructure is so shit they can't keep electricity running and so the entire country is dark at night. They continually build buildings that remain empty for the sole purpose of trying to look like a prospering country while at the same time being incapable of actually fooling anyone.
The people who live there don't actually know anything besides what the state tells them because it's so secluded there.
It's worse than people say it is, because we probably don't even know the tip of the iceberg.
>>69361543
oh yes :D
i will tried to play a game some time
but it will never downloaded :D
>Go too google maps.
>Find NK
>Find a green looking hilly mountain
>Zoom in until the actual terrain features are shown instead of the faux colour of the map algorithm
>Hills aren't actually green, they're fucking barren.
NK is still so heavily dependent on firewood that their forests are being wiped out faster than they regrow. Every halfway to modern nation have solved this by providing fossil fuels for heat and cooking purposes to the masses, NK have not.
The people there aren't going to starve less when erosion and runoff ruins their farmlands.
>>69361595
Interesting bruh. Email me your movie stuff if you get the time, I'm interested: [email protected]
And you may find this useful for some things:
http://anti-imperialism.com/2014/08/14/western-dprk-propaganda-the-worst-occasionally-hilarious-and-often-racist-lies/
>>69361584
every one of those words is a compliment to anyone who understands jack shit about economics, you ass-backwards mouth breather.
>>69357886
Nigger China is not nationalistic. Most Chinese people would jump at the first chance to leave that shithole. You can't go to any country in Asia(or on earth) without some Chinese fucks in it
>>69352004
>They haven't sold their economy
What economy?
>>69361595
what the fuck are you on about, kim hates his people he only wants nuclear war, like an idiot on meth talking about shadow people, we are on the last straw of fucking vaporizing him because he can't stop launching missiles at japan, because muh capitalist pig. I hope the fat fuck gets in prison there are innocent people starving in his country little children that are brain washed by his propaganda and lies. That will commit suicide if we do anything if he commands them too.
>>69359435
>wanting those flat faced gooks
I can see why worst Koreans get so much plastic surgery, they look revolting in their natural state
>>69361237
how do we know anything>?
>>69361687
Looks like rural 70s Japan, I kinda want to visit, looks comfy as fuck.
>you will never live in idyllic life in rural Korea with you loving wife and 3 children eating plain rice and playing shogi
>>69361233
That's what sanctions do, America sanctioned us to stop pacifying the nogs and we ran out of fuel.
I heard they are breeding super humans.
>>69361683
Oh wow okay lots of misinformation Mr. "hasn't read their tourist requirements since the 2003 revision".
1) Tourists aren't restricted to special tourism areas. This used to be true, it isn't. Changed around 2007.
2) Tourists are not allowed in if they know Korean? Flat out false.
3) Internet is completely forbidden to all people except high ranking officials? No. it's more limited to those in urban areas who have access to higher economic zones. Even tourists can get access to the internet, including in a few of the hotels you can stay at.
4) Their infrastructure is so shit they can't keep electricity running so the entire country is dark at night? Not exactly. You're right that they can't consistently keep it up all over the country. you're wrong that ALL of it is off ALL over the country. Pic related. I've got various pictures of Pyongyang at night: from 7pm, 11pm, 2am, 4am, etc. So I can show that it was on consistently. Obviously this isn't true in rural areas.
5) Build empty buildings. No. They do have some, primarily old ones that fell apart, were built badly during the "Great Plans" period of Kim Il-Sung (which I can detail in another post if anyone is curious). Some of the newer buildings are already operable, pic related still.
Thanks for trying though.
North Korea is a very interesting country in the world right now.
I've talked to a few people that have been up there and they said it was kind of weird, but everything you get to see is alright.
You get an assigned guide that tells you what is happening while you're there, you'll dine in great big hotels with no one else there, and if you ask your guide what it's really like he'll jokingly say 'Oh I can't complain'.
I wonder if it was just put there to be a meme world enemy if Muslims don't work out.
In case of emergency break glass. Yep, it was North Korea. Those crazy crazy guys!
>>69361241
My boss was teaching in one of their university (2005-2007). This may explain the report routine.
In China students willing to join the party also have to produce such reports and essays, but it's not something one should talk about with a foreigner.
>>69361882
>he can't stop launching missiles at japan
When has he done that?
>>69361968
Brazil runs their cars on sugar cane waste, why couldn't you do that with your major crop waste?
>>69361882
>kim hates his people he only wants nuclear war, like an idiot on meth talking about shadow people, we are on the last straw of fucking vaporizing him because he can't stop launching missiles at japan, because muh capitalist pig.
Hitler hates his people, he only want the total war, like an idiot on meth, talking about the jews. We are on the last straw of fucking vaporizing him, because he can't stop marching into Poland.
The story works ever time.
>>69361729
It isn't the consistent killing of trees for firewood that fucked them. It's the Korean War. They used ALL of their lumber during that rapid period of time, and it has never grown back. Supporting statement from the US Military Handbook on NK:
"During World War II and the Korean War, the Korean Peninsula was
nearly deforested. As a result, only scrub tree growth and relatively
young forests exist. Areas not classified as cultivated or built-up are generally
categorized as forests. Areas that contain trees over 6.1 m (20 ft)
occupy only one-third of South Korea and are usually dense with tightly
spaced trees that are generally less than 10 m (33 ft) tall. In these forests,
maneuvering vehicles is difficult because trees are so closely spaced."
I can link the pdf if you want it.
>>69361951
rip
Yeah all very clean, very arranged... but can they search Miley Cyrus or Madonna in the internet?
No.
>>69362052
https://www.rt.com/news/337557-north-korea-missile-sea/
this is his 10 missile this year.
>>69361997
No, that's just what they call their Great Leader's family. Unless some fat-fuck manlet who looks like he has downs is the new definition of Übermensch, I doubt the program is going very well.
>>69361968
At least we figured out how to make petrol out of coal in the process.
>>69362086
kekle
>>69362207
I've recently became jealous of your classic cars. It seems every time we got a car in the 70s or 80s, our top tier sports option was a 3L V6, while you guys got a 5L V8 with like 70 more horsepower
>>69362172
>but can they search Miley Cyrus or Madonna in the internet?
Oh no, they will never find out how to twerk properly. Or how to find the key to eternal life.
>>69361901
Well, the west has reached the point where you should stop caring about the looks.
It's better to fuck a traditional nationalist gook, than an average western woman with 10/10 looks.
I've even given up on dating for the last couple of years, because I can't stand the liberal kike bullshit that comes out of their mouths.
>>69362015
>'Oh I can't complain'
>*They'd throw me and my family into gulags.'
>>69361901
There is some plastic surgery in NK, which I find amusing, but it's only in fancier urban areas. Rare, but funny to me that they picked up on a SK trend.
>>69361958
Yeah, it's got some really rural asian looking stuff.
Glad you're enjoying the pics.
>>69361997
Absolutely. They are recruiting foreigner nords to breed the ultimate hero. Pic related.
jk
>>69362015
This is pretty much right in terms of how the guides work.
>>69362031
A chink friend of mine had a BFF Nork throughout her college time in Beijing. No reports that she knows of. But the Nork DID have that sort of attitude about NK superiority.
Main thing she says is that they were sometimes annoying in terms of often wanting to go travel around China and shit.
>>69362130
for what though
>>69362130
>it's the Korean War that fucked them
>posts a citation that talks about how South Korea has plenty of trees
You dumb?
>>69362173
"Sea of Japan" is not Japan you dumb american. North Korea has territorial waters in the Sea of Japan.
>>69362448
it does not matter what he posted
already we know he is dumb
>>69362448
He thinks North Korea is a great place. You may as well as water if it's wet.
>>69362410
I'm curious, do you genuinely support and approve of the current regime? Do you just like the aesetic of the countryside? Are you a hard line marxist?
>>69362013
1) If true, then alright. Still shocking it took that long.
2) Pretty sure it's accurate. For the same reason number 3 is accurate.
3) It's restricted because the populace might read about the bigbad facts about their leader and their countries history. Tourists are allowed internet access in special tourist hotels under direct supervision by guards to make sure you aren't doing anything.
4) Wow, the capital can afford electricity all the time. Meanwhile rural literally anywhere else in the world has electricity 24/7.
5) Ryugyong Hotel, the many ghost cities by the border, etc.
>>69362323
It's something call LIBERTY you fucking east german communist.
>>69361759
Sure thing, compliment.
Gallup states that during the first quarter of 2015, 15.8 percent of Americans surveyed indicated that in the last year they had struggled to afford food for their families.
“This is the lowest percentage measured since the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index started in 2008,” states the pollster, adding that in the first quarter of 2008, 16.4 percent of Americans reported not being able to afford food.
During the first quarter of 2014, 17.4 percent of Americans reported struggling for food, according to Gallup.
Complement.
>>69362423
Military. Spam building construction while expanding, exporting it to China/Russia. They were not smart during that war period in terms of long term planning.
As a result of that, they have a NUMBER of laws in place that direct how to handle the environment, and detail crimes for harming it - no doubt since they sort of want to grow some back since it is an important resource they would rather not have to bother importing.
Of note, in thinking about the deforestation, is that it wasn't an issue prior to the war - and historically there have been mass numbers of people in North Korea - particularly in Pyongyang - from their owners (in a tributary sense: chinese, japanese, mongols) to themselves with mass population. So it would be strange for it to suddenly be an issue only now, when they never had electricity before.
The war fucked this up, and then the following famine fucked it up even more. Pic somewhat related, land usage:
>>69352004
I think the first place to look for the truth in this matter is at the suicide rates in NK.
>>69356508
seriously share proxy pls
>>69362448
Except the line says that SOUTH KOREA still has trees. North Korea never actually rebounded.
>>69362583
Sorry you get triggered by info.
>>69362598
I don't think NK is a great place. I think the US is a great place.
I think NK is shit in comparison.
BUT I study NK and offer info I can about it.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
>>69362694
I'm a libertarian, if there's one thing I enjoy it's liberty. Taking Miley Cyrus as an example was the stupid move.
>>69362013
Also as an added note. On their official tourism website it specifically says ; "North Korea does not allow foreigners to travel around the country without tour guides. Even if you go to the DPRK individually, your 2 guides will accompany you everywhere; this is the first condition to which you have to consent."
If you want to pretend and tell me that doesn't specifically mean, "Your tour guides will make sure you don't go where we don't want you to go." then that's your problem.
>>69352004
B-B-BUT MUH ACTORS
http://webm.land/media/pQzS.webm
>>69362860
triggered means angry?
i do not care what you posted
only I think you are an idiot
because you are an idiot
will leave now
>>69362712
17.4% of Americans can't even GET FOOD! SOMETHING HAD BY PEOPLE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF HUMANITY WITH NO TECH!
60 million americans can't get FOOD!! stupid globalist profiteer!
>>69352004
It's really that bad there. Look at any picture of their soldiers (or average civilians) that did not come from the North Korean propaganda department.
>>69362750
The only applicable locations to compare suicide rates for them would be South korea and japan since it's safe to assume china fudges their numbers.
>>69362987
The richest country in the world, means nothing to the common people.
>>69362964
What movie?
>>69362870
So you as a libertarian will ban people to watch some singers because you think they are bad for their morality or something?
>>69362645
No.
I dislike their governmental choices, I dislike their economic choices, and I dislike their judicial choices.
This improved somewhat in 2004 when they had a mass amendment to their Criminal Code which removed their "retrospective principle" and started to add more "mens rea" to their element requirements for crimes.
I'm a staunch capitalist who likes the republic, which obviously North Korea does not match.
I do like their aesthetic.
Hell no I'm not a Marxist.
I'm a John Stuart Mill obsessed John Smith loving capitalist who only approves of minimal regulation in a market.
Fuck socialism.
I love how people think I like Marx/Korea and shit just because I correct them on information about it.
>>69362648
It's been accessed without guard supervision, even privately in a hotel room. Don't watch porn though, that's a crime.
That 'hotel' is broken shit that they tried to make more aesthetically pleasing. That doesn't speak to the newer buildings ("Science Street") that have been built under Kim Jong-Un. I mentioned that most of the shit buildings come from Kim Il-Sung's mistakes.
>>69362903
Correct. You will ALWAYS have a guide with you. You can't go everywhere - they still won't give me access to their courtrooms/judges but said I can chat with law profs at a University. Gay, right? How am I supposed to study shit if I can't look for judicial freedom, common law mixed with codified law, etc.
>>69362973
I don't think you're an idiot, but bye I guess.
>>69362992
Here, have some skinny soldiers with a snake.
Famine does that to people.
>>69361747
>http://anti-imperialism.com/2014/08/14/western-dprk-propaganda-the-worst-occasionally-hilarious-and-often-racist-lies/
i remember those pathetic stories
god anything else?
its gonna be on youtube in a month probably
>>69362992
That's the difference between draft and contract army.
A big chunk of US army looked exactly like you pic during the Vietnam war.
>>69363230
I know a lot of the murders are a bit thing. Sadly I can't speak to a lot of specific media-heavy stuff, since my focus is studying their law specifically.
But if you want to speak to any of their actual laws to address concepts of them having no legal system, etc. toss me an email. Good luck with your project bruh, I look forward to it!
>>69358084
I have read that they make the children serve the sentences of their parents if they die
Spend literally your entire life in prison
>>69363202
>>69363253
Sure those are big smiles and a fair comparison from you Heinrich, but you can't seriously tell me things are going well in North Korea
>>69363345
I have 'read' it too, in the sense of it has been said by 'Nork refugees' according to the UN report on human rights.
Otherwise I have yet to see any actual evidence of it.
So gunna not assume that until I see more.
>>69363153
>So you as a libertarian will ban people to watch some singers because you think they are bad for their morality or something?
Nope, I prefer a free internet with all information available. But seriously, the example was poorly chosen, even for /pol/ standard.
>>69363426
I didn't say they are doing great.
I don't think it's total shit.
And I think they're doing better than before.
What do you want from me, bruh, condemnation of their country?
>>69352004
They make cool vidya games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0WhdhbImLM
>>69363497
I think posting their government's propaganda and pretending it's not a totally shit country is just kind of naive. Maybe you really just need to visit there.
>>69360685
I'd bet money that South Korea goes out of their way to do light pollution to make Best Korea look bad.
>>69363497
Guven the amount of international aid you would think they would at least figure out how to farm properly.
>>69363930
Nah, megacities do that, just look at Japan.
>>69363615
I'm not posting their government's propaganda. I'm posting shots a photographer took. Big deal, right?
And no worries, I'm visiting there. I have a bunch of friends who visit there, a few even twice a year (yes every year).
But surprise, none of that invalidates what I said.
>>69363948
You'd think. They gots lots of farms. I don't know enough about farming technique to say what they're doing right or wrong, but if you can comment on a few of the farming pics in the thread to enlighten us all that'd be legit cool. There was a guy in another thread who was nice enough to share his expertise on trains, another on bikes, etc.
North Korea seems very mediocre with Singapore tier laws that hold heavier penalties. But is much better than mexico, and nearly every middle east shit hole besides Dubai I've been to. I'm failing to see how "LOOK AT HOW TERRIBLE NORTH KOREA IS THEY DON'T HAVE STARBUCKS!" Matters.
>>69357080
https://proxy.cm/north-korea
proxy won't load captcha so you need 4chan pass to post
>>69364229
>. I don't know enough about farming technique to say what they're doing right or wrong, but if you can comment on a few of the farming pics in the thread to enlighten us all that'd be legit cool.
To make it short, they level of farming is how we did it in the 1930's. Everything is done manually, no kind of automation visible. I can't really blame it on North Korea, most of rural Asia looks like that, so does Africa. We are just spoilt on that matter.
>>69360794
They are all staged or at the very least show the elite class.
>>69364236
Soon, starbucks, soon.
>>69364448
Thanks bruh, any insight you can give is helpful!
>>69364491
Yes, all those rural pics and farming pics and people not in uniform are clearly the elite class.
Here, in this pic, obviously a piece of propaganda by the government to show you how rich they are, the elite class proceed to wash their clothes in an elite river.
Elite clothes, of course.
>>69361747
>posting e-mail address on 4chan
>on any board
>ever
You do realise that there are dozens of scripts aimed at this site to automatically detect e-mail addresses posted here publically just so they can overwhelm you with spam for no other reason than to fuck with you, right?
>>69364650
I've done it a handful of times and I've yet to get any spam ever.
So it's okay.
I've gotten in touch with a few cool people thanks to it as well.
Thanks for trying to have my back though, Hungarybro.
no because they get aid from china.
>>69358084
probably like all the escaped north koreans...
They're the last truly communist place on the planet.
Imagine if they give that all up, go full capitalist, and explode with wealth?
It will be China 2: Electric Boogaloo
>>69364835
>no because they get aid from china.
The get aid from all over the world, even the United States send a ton of rice every once in a while. The North Korean government doesn't like to talk about it, but they have a hard time to feed their citizen properly.
>>69358084
> PROOFS!?
every account of everyone who has ever left, every bit of party literature that's been printed in 20 different languages, dprk state media, etc etc.
read in the under the loving care of the fatherly leader if you want a historical look, or aquariums of pyongyang if you are a pleb and want a story with citations.
>>69352004
North Korea is in many ways basically /pol/ the society.
Take that as you will.
>>69364753
Maybe it's not a thing anymore then. A couple of years ago /b/ had daily threads about posting e-mail addresses of people anons hated and having the scripts automatically fill their accounts with nonsense. It was a common knowledge never to do that, but maybe the ones doing it got bored with it. I still rather be careful and never do that, just in case.
>>69363436
Jesus christ dude you're like that edgy kid in highschool
>>69365187
No. The only 'proof' is the refugee testimony. The DPRK state media stuff and their laws and internal documents don't cover it. I know that because I read all of them.
But if you buy the refugee testimony, then that settles that.
>>69365327
I don't think so. I read the entire 360 (noscope) page document. I can paste things from it if you want.
>>69352004
its really that bad, just like any country that tried communism
>>69364229
Honestly doesn't seem all that much diffrent from South Korean methods of doing things manually and inefficently except they are depending on this ro actually feed a nation, not keep retirees occupied.
Though the world of international grain trade has severley fucked things regarding food independance for smaller countries North Korea really should have more mechinization especially since they obviosly have the ability to produce thier own equipment or borrow from China.
like the kraut said, a lot of asian countries are like that but they also aren't sanctioned up the ass.
The place is literally City 17: IRL edition.
>>69365462
yeah, I've seen like MINIMAL equipment on farms, pic related. Like rare.
>>69354840
north korea is the definition of second world. those terms do not refer to economic conditions but to their post WW2 allegiance and whether they were capitalist during the cold war
first world countries are america and its capitalist allies
second world countries are the soviets and its communist affiliates
third world are neutral, usually too unimportant to matter
>>69365764
Thanks for the clarification. I won't make the mistake in the future <3.
>>69365424
>only refugees
read under the loving care of our fatherly leader. there are plenty of primary sources to support the claim of punishing bloodlines outside of escapee testimony. this was a policy in place since the revolution, it isn't exactly disputed.
the policy to wane under Jong Il towards the end of his life under his direction. No idea if Un is still enforcing it to the same extent.
>>69360685
Nice shop.
>>69365462
>North Korea really should have more mechinization especially since they obviosly have the ability to produce thier own equipment or borrow from China.
North Korea does not have the ability to make their own equipment, they lack an industrial base and have to make most things by hand. They can mass produce basic tools and complex items like bombs, but they lack the ability to mass produce medium complexity items like tractors.
North Korea also has a bad habit of taking things and never paying for them, so no one will lend them anything or sell them things on credit.
North Korea are still using Volvo's that they got from Sweden 40 years ago, they cannot produce anything better. They still haven't paid for those cars either, so no one will loan them anything else.
North Korea works on a cash up front basis. They have to pay for goods in advance and they have to produce goods in advance before payment. They are untrustworthy.
>>69352004
Find out for yourself if you dont trust anyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_North_Korea
>>69356508
huh
>>69365924
Please drop some source documents on me.
I've got their criminal code in every edition and amendment since its origin in Soviet law, same is true of their penal code, constitution, etc.
I've read almost every speech and writing by Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il (including before he was leader and just followed his pep pep around). I've read their old newspapers, documents, published papers, their debates on how criminal law should work, some session notes from the SPA, and more.
I still haven't seen it. Clearly you've got something I don't, and that's cool - I would just appreciate if you'd share it so I can improve my repertoire.
Haven't seen anything from Kim Jong-Un on it either.
Even in the UN Investigation on HR in NK - on their list of evidence and mention of the 'three generation' stuff, their source is, and I quote from the document, "Ms. Jeong Jin-hwa" who said "in an instruction reportedly issued by Kim Il-sung himself". So if you have a primary source, you could even get the UN's attention.
Pls share!
>>69365893
Man that's beautiful, can't wait to put a Nestle factory there after we liberate them and turn the water toxic.
>>69352004
North Korea is pretty bad.
They run their government in the lowest form, charismatic authority (part of the tripartite classification of authority).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_classification_of_authority
You have zero independence and are expected to kiss the ass of that fat fuck Kim Jong-un.
Jong-un has also been mouthy lately. We should respond back gracefully with a tactical nuke.
>>69366099
This. Do research, make your own conclusion.
>>69366057
They do like to 'borrow' bootleg imports they can get. Pic related. Wonder where that's from?
>>69366410
Yeeehaw.
>>69366057
If you can make a gun you can make an engine, m8. Though it would require actual thought anda decent amount of innovation to make work geven what NK has to work with. Honestly think that cutting off all aid is the best solution. Either they nut up and fix things or they collapse.
Only Pyongyang where the political elites live is probably not that bad even as shitty as it obviously is. The rest of the country is probably even worse than we can imagine. I once watched some North Korean propaganda movie by some British guy who tried to make you think it wasn't that bad there, but they only focused on the family of a political elite and of course they have a nice life. Classless society my ass. Communists are a bunch of hypocrites.
It's sad too. I don't blame the North Korean people. They're just like everyone else except they've been brainwashed to worship their leaders. I pray for the day that their government finally collapses and they'll be free.
>>69360507
i wish i had the time to play games in a back alley during the daytime, looks comfy
i work 6am-630pm mon-sat, occasionally i can shitpost on my phone (like now) but i don thave time for games like that
i make bank tho
>>69362410
BWC
>>69366643
>They're just like everyone else except they've been brainwashed to worship their leaders.
>Except
Made me chuckle
>>69366794
As chill as hanging out may be, I think making bank wins. That's some long hours though bruh!
Just as an aside, per NK constitution and labor laws:
Article 30. The working day shall be eight hours.
The length of the working day shall be reduced by the State in
arduous trades and other special categories of work.
The State shall guarantee that the working hours are fully utilized
through proper organization of labour and enforcement of labour discipline.
>>69360616
this explains everything
>>69366863
western media shits all over it`s leaders all the time. You ain`t going to see some guy on nork state TV making fun of the Kims
>>69360104
That's a kick-ass uniform.
Real shame the west hates having style in practical uniforms.
Like, I get having simple stuff, but really, LEOs could actually look like something to respect and look up to instead of janitors.
Idk op Maybe u should move there?
>>69352004
Story time?
>dad and his friends like trains
>they travel the world to see them
>one of them goes to asia in the early 90s with a few others
>after spending some time in South Korea he and his group take a charter flight to China on a small plane
>engine trouble not long after take off forces the pilot to ditch in the Yellow Sea
>everyone is unharmed and a distress call is sent out
>NK coast guard are first on the scene
>arrive with guns drawn and everyone taken is into custody
>taken back to the mainland, seperated and interrogated for two days
>no one knows what the shit is going on
>on the third day it's suddenly all smiles from the authorities and the group is given THE TOUR before being put on a plane to China
>turns out that when the plane failed to arrive the travel company contacted the British foreign office
>they in turn contacted the Chinese
>Chinese decided it would be worth checking to see if NK had picked them up before they bothered to waste money going full search and rescue
>funnily enough, there they are
>Chinese convinced NK authorities that the six Brits, two Germans and one South Korean they fished out of the sea are not spies, but a bunch of train spotters and a commercial pilot
>whole incident is quietly brushed under the rug
>remains the most terrifying experience in dad's friends life, with the Damascus kidnapping attempt in second place
>>69367119
>You ain`t going to see some guy on nork state TV making fun of the Kims
You won't see that happening in a lot of countries. You get up to 15 years in prison if you foulmouth the king in Thailand, yet nobody blames them for being too strict on that matter. If you are too harsh about the president in Turkey, they'll come and have a talk with you - and we may have them as an EU member soon.
It's not that uncommon.
>>69367119
That's because it's easier to create several meme persons to redirect the people's anger, hope, despair and so on.
Ju Jitsu ain't shit on that.
