Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the far-left is so pro-Islam? These are the same people who stone gays to death, deny women any rights, rape young girls, etc. Is the far-left so full of hatred for Whites that they'll support any group, no matter how much it contradicts their other views, that isn't White?
I can't understand how people can be so absolutely retarded.
>>69348788
>Is the far-left so full of hatred for Whites that they'll support any group, no matter how much it contradicts their other views, that isn't White?
That is exactly the reason.
>>69348881
That's ludicrous though, is it not? Can they even justify being pro-Islam in light of their other views, or is the far-left hung up on emotional reasoning and White guilt?
>>69348881
This. They'll ally themselves with whomever is against straight, white, Christian males.
>>69348788
theyve wandered so far left that theyve gone around the circle and are on the ultra-far right now.
progressive stack
you should not be posting on /pol/ if you don't already know the rules of this game
>>69348788
>. Is the far-left so full of hatred for Whites that they'll support any group, no matter how much it contradicts their other views, that isn't White?
Short answer: Yes
>>69348788
Muslims are like Africans - the perfect tools for the leftist cause, because despite the exceptions they're incapable of rising to real prominence.
The left loves the underdog, the outsider, the hordes of useless, any group who can be rallied to fight against the owners of capital and bourgeoisie they hate so much for maintaining a system they see as built on exploitation.
They fight inequality by signalling their allegiance with the less than equal.
Because the Jews at the top want to displace white people.
>>69348788
Its not about being pro Islam, its about not being a bigot
There are about 1 billion Muslims around the world, very very few of them do the terrible things that you listed (I don't like those things or the people who do them)
Most are just average people just trying to get by in the world, and so we (lefties) often speak out when we hear others say we should ban all Muslims and profile them
>>69348788
Terror has no religion or some shit like that.
Basically, a big deal of narcissism mixed with idealism. The latter allows them to see what they want to see, the former makes them think that it is the truth. Sprinkle the mix with some decadence (not even caring what is the truth as long as your false perceptions are satisfying) and intellectual corruption (the standards for "truth" and "falseness" are lowering continuously) to make the picture whole.
They're all about virtue signaling instead of being rational.
They want to be the center of attention, getting on other people's faces instead of learning a trade and minding their own business.
>>69348788
The 'left' as we know it was created in the 1960 by soviet counter-culture operatives who were seeking to undermine western civilizan. They provided material resources and funding as well as educational materials. Using things like free love and drugs as a motivator, they were able to subvert an entire generation of baby boomers to join their cause and create a bunch of sleeper agents, who would work within the system to bring it down when the global(ist) communist revolution finally happened.
However, the soviet union dissolved in the 1990s, and these preprogramed drones were left idle. They no longer had any masters or leaders, and simply festered in academia, continuing their mission to subvert the youth while maintaining a low profile.
Enter islam. The muslims worked with both the united states and the soviets. They fought on/for both sides through proxy wars and so forth throughout the cold war. They understood this mechanism was in place, and when the soviet union fell they attempted to fill the power vacuum left by the soviets. They understood how to control these drones through rhetoric and language. When a muslim says they support human rights, or women's rights, they mean 'sharia'. But the average leftist doesnt understand sharia, and so they think the muslim is simply saying 'socialist human rights/feminism'. The left plays word games with us (lol racism, privilege, ect), and the muslims controlling the left play word games with them (lol human rights, women's rights, sharia ;p). It's a huge, elaborate, game of pretend that the people in the lower ranks think is serious. They dont understand that when islam takes over, they will be the first to die for being unclean, uncovered, unbelievers.
>>69349591
>very very few of them do the terrible things that you listed
raping boys is a thursday night hobby for mudmen
>Is the far-left so full of hatred for Whites that they'll support any group, no matter how much it contradicts their other views, that isn't White?
Yes. Yes, it is.
>That's ludicrous though, is it not?
Yes, it is.
>is the far-left hung up on emotional reasoning and White guilt?
Yes, they are.
Welcome to the red pill.
>>69349591
25-35% of muslims are 'radicalized'. That is, they take action on the Quran's instructions to kill infidels.
The rest do not speak out, nor condemn the radicals. Non-radicalized muslims believe in the quran's message, but do not do the actual killing of infidels themselves.
Got a few minutes?
Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQJshxuF9zA
takes only 2 minutes, you can spare 2 minutes to see the devastation the 25% of muslims are doing to infidels around the world.
And if that got you thinking, then watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAoXgZLRee0
That one takes a little longer, but after seeing it, you'll have a more complete understanding.
>>69349591
Just because most Muslims don't kill people doesn't mean they don't support horrible things. Massive chunks of Muslim countries want things like death for apostates.
The "moderate" Muslims in molenbeekbhouse terrorists and let them walk through the streets without saying a word.
>>69349978
think you forgot your tin foil hat man
I've got an extra one for you
>>69349591
Do you faggots forget the definition of fundamentalist?
>fundamental
>a central or primary rule or principle on which something is based
It's not "extremist" it's literally them following their religion as their book tells them.
Because most of them, like these young Bernie supporters, never venture into the real world and believe what the Jewish media tells them. They have no jobs and are supported by their parents. They have no sense of responsibility and believe everything should be handed to them. They have no critical thinking capabilities which makes them unable to have any sense of what holding down a job or having responsibility is.
>>69350183
>25-35% of muslims are 'radicalized'. That is, they take action on the Quran's instructions to kill infidels.
If one quater of Muslims killed even one infidel each that would be about 250,000,000 people, total BS
>The rest do not speak out, nor condemn the radicals. Non-radicalized muslims believe in the quran's message, but do not do the actual killing of infidels themselves.
here are two links to muslim american organizations that have anti terrorism / peace statements on the front page of their websites:
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/
http://www.muslimamericansociety.org/
>>69348788
They're not really pro-Islam, they are just anti-West.
They believe that the West opresses Islam and therefore Islam has is morally superior.
>>69350291
What part of that post is incorrect?
>>69348788
Because western men are pussies anf the left want an alphs ideal. Islam is a macho religion that encourages violence and manliness unlike cucktianity :^)
>>69350874
>>69349978
alright, its hard to even know where to start because it's so crazy, but I'll try
first do you have any evidence that soviet counter culture operatives entered the US in the 60's and then became professors when the whole thing petered out, I have never heard of anything like this ever
second you say that Muslims filled a power void after the Soviet union collapsed? well if they tried they did a pretty shitty job, Israel still kicks Muslim's ass, Saddam got his ass kicked and I would say Russia or China are more powerful then any Muslim state
>>69348788
They aren't.
It's just a myth created by the right-wing.
>>69351850
>lol do u have a single fact to back that up. ur wrong until you prove ur rite burden of proofs xD
that's what I thought.
>>69353436
well do you?
that's a pretty big claim, even one website or wikipedia article?
>These are the same people who stone gays to death, deny women any rights, rape young girls, etc
No.
Those are terrorists. They have nothing to do with islam.
>>69348788
>Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the far-left is so pro-Islam
Both are anti-Christian and that's really all that counts. Seriously.
>>69348788
Because the far-left is funded by wealthy billionaires and these people want to create a labor glut. So they dress immigration up as some sort of human right and idiots will just parrot whatever they are told.
>>69353712
I wouldn't say it has noting to do with Islam
if you take any Abrahamic religious text to it's literal extreme you end up doing some pretty fucked up shit
I would just say these people represent an extreme of the religion that has noting to do with the huge majority of peaceful muslims
They say that not all muslims are bad. Which is still double think.
>>69354099
You seem to think that a religion is simply a book.
>>69351850
Okay I tried baiting but this is actually a worthy topic.
Yes, that dude is right but don't expect shit to be out in the open.
To understand you'd have to go back to the 1930's when Stalin finally solidifies his hold on the Soviet Union. Bear in mind that "marxist degeneracy" has already become visible before the soviet revolution. Stalin saw the more degenerate side of communism and, being a failed priest, he saw the dangers.
So once he gets to power these degenerate "SJW" (not really but its already there) commies are shot and a few are allowed to escape. Where? Why to west europe of course.
This is how we get to 1930's and the formation of the Komintern which is a sort of an umbrella organization for commies to watch over free-roaming foreign communists in west europe. This organization is being constantly purged to ensure only degenerate, culturally degenerate marxist elements remain.
Finally in the late 1930's during the spanish civil war the NKVD organizes a great european hunt kidnapping and killing communists all over europe under the guise of looming pre-ww2 chaos and the war itself. Soviet defector general Orlov had much to say about this.
Finally, leftist european intellectuals such as Romain Rolland or George Bernard Shaw were IN LOVE with stalin and communism and gave him stellar publicity. After the war they took over universities.
They were never ordered by KGB "Dude take over universities and tell your students all sorts of SJW shit" but were carefully groomed and cultivated like plants.
Stalin was the real chessmaster and this shit was his best move
>>69348788
They're anti-Christian and Jew. They're pro-Islam. Islam is anti-Christian and Jew.
The spirit of the Anti-Christ is in both parties.
They feel their natural underlying destiny. They want to unite against the Holy Spirit.
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
>>69353712
Saudi Arabia just now let women drive cars. Many, many muslim women have to wear burkas. Muslims are allowed in their books to lie to protect their religon, and to kill those who leave it.
All religions are not equal
>>69348788
Basically they are into anything that destabilizes the West
>>69349591
Why can't they just stay in their sand countries?
ITT: strawmen
The left doesn't support Islam per se. They oppose all muslims being denegrated based on the actions of a minority. If you can't see the difference then you're an idiot.
>>69353535
>Wikipedia article
Implying that shit isn't biased as fuck, especially regarding the left and merchants
>>69348788
People with brown skin OP, that is literally it.
>>69355397
they can,
but if they want to immigrate and they are law abiding people I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to migrate like any other people
>>69349591
Gee now I realise that the crowds watching or comitting public executions in "decent" muslim countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan are progressive liberals
>>69355435
They also oppose any muslims facing consequences for the actons of other muslims.
Which is still doublethink
>>69355939
Because it's impossible to tell if they're a good guy or a bad guy until they scream allahu ackbar in a crowded metro station
>>69349499
>underdog
>horde
Pick one.
>>69348788
They'll bend over backwords for anyone going against white male interests, no matter how many "liberal principles" they violate
see: The latest MSM shilling for Ted Cruz
>>69355941
Hey man France had public executions not that long ago,
No, I don't like those sorts of things at all but if they've got these big events happening in the middle of a large city I wouldn't condemn everyone who happened to watch
>>69355939
Because their ideology is incompatible with our culture and customs and also has a high percentage of people that blow up, killing people who don't agree with their ways. It is putting our people at higher risk by letting them emigrate, it is our job to protect our people, and fully within our rights as a sovereign nation to turn anyone back for any reason.
>>69356138
A lot of times it is not impossible, authorities need to take action when they have information
Belgium was warned about the bombers from Turkey, they just didn't do anything
Bush was handed a memo that Bin laden was determined to strike the US but he did noting
Russia gave notice about the Boston bombers to the US
there usually seems to be some information prior to them doing something, maybe the authorities need to get off their ass and look into it
>>69348788
We have 1000 threads about this every week. I hate you.
>>69356273
yes, every immigrant from outside the US will have a culture that is different then the US, this has been going on for centuries, it is nothing new
Yes some may be criminals or terrorists, don't let those people in / kick them out,
otherwise immigrants can be a great benefit to our country, they bring in knowledge, talent, labor they pay taxes and grow the economy
>>69356808
>yes, every immigrant from outside the US will have a culture that is different then the US, this has been going on for centuries, it is nothing new
Those that came in for centuries come in from mainly eurocentric nations with close and compatible cultures. Sure they're different, but they've been living alongside each other for centuries. They are already pretty integrated. Islam is not. It is the antithesis to Western culture and disagrees almost 100% with eurocentric culture. They also deal with their differences in a less than civil manner. It is not healthy to bring them into our country. It will only create social tension.
>Yes some may be criminals or terrorists, don't let those people in / kick them out,
There is no way to know they won't blow up before they do it.
>otherwise immigrants can be a great benefit to our country, they bring in knowledge, talent, labor they pay taxes and grow the economy
What knowledge, talent, or labor could Muslims possibly bring to the table we haven't already, or can't develop on our own? Why is importing millions of them the only way to learn from them? We can import more immigrants from Europe. There is no reason to bring in Muslims, and again, fully within our rights as a sovereign nation to turn them back. I don't see why you are putting their concerns and worries on the same level as American citizens.
What about all the unemployed Americans? You're just flooding the job market with even more people, driving down wages for Americans or outright pushing Americans out of the job market entirely.
There is no need to bring in Muslims and live with the social tension like Europe is living with now. Islam is not compatible with our ideals.
>>69354382
>>69351850
Interesting thinking.
Please listen to my theory. Some authors like Nietzche and Stirner wrote in 19th century, how progresivism is just continuation of christian morality, getting rid of God and purged of remaining pragmatic elements (like selfpreservation, when just moral duty remains).
The white guilt then just replaces the original sin, they see our whole civilization as sinfull. Progressives still have two important christian elements, sin and sacrifice, where we all must repent of our sins and sacrifice ourself for greater good of all mankind.
Thus this anti white histeria is just christian morality taken to extreme, where being moral take over good life and in which name we should all sacrifice ourself.
Im not saying that Soviets didnt help it, but this selfdestructive line of thought was engraved in western phylosophy for a long time.
