Is Religion the worst disease in human history?
>>69346440
I would say Cancer is a worse disease myself, but I am not a doctor.
>Mexican intellectuals
>>69346440
No religion started and maintained by sociopathic morons is
>>69346440
WE GET IT SETH, YOU VAPE
SCIENCE XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>69346731
American academia is basically 'make the most clickbait study you can in the less amount of time or you'll be out of a job'
Wouldn't call it a disease but more a mental disorder.
>>69346440
>>69346731
>Falklands almost as large as Argentina
>>69346440
No because many of your Aztec relatives were raped and butchered by Christians and coquistadors.
So there's a positive. Shame they had to make mixed kids instead of dumping the future of Mexico off a cliff.
>>69346440
Human nature is the worst disease. Religion its self is not to blame as much as peoples love of power and abusing said power.
well congratulations, you got rid of christianity. enjoy your secular atheist stat- ALLAHU AKBAR! TAKBIR! ALLAH IS GREAT! WE WILL OUTBREED YOU! DIE INFIDEL! EMBRACE THE CALIPHATE!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>69346440
If Christianity never existed and everything else stayed the exactly the same then Europe would have never united to fight off the Muslim invaders and thus Islam would be everywhere and we would be 1000 years LESS advanced than we are right now.
>>69347257
Good point. Nothing advances technology like a good war and Christianity loves wars
>>69347158
>he thinks that being an atheist means you have to be accepting of muslim savages
This is why Europe is dying.
>>69347257
Christianity literally put Europe into a 100 year long war with itself along with several other conflicts based on sectarian divisions. Without christcuckoldry holding back science as much as it did, we might be way more advanced now.
No. If u disagre ur a fedora nerd xD.
Pic related doesn't beleive in Bible.
>>69346440
>not realizing that scientific repression is a product of world controllers keeping their monopoly going.
not really anything to do with religion.
>>69346440
Unfortunately this would only happen once 99% of people become secular atheists who believe in science, logic, and reason. Once that happens, almost all wars would stop, trillions of dollars would be freed up for welfare and science, and we could start colonizing the galaxy. This is why once atheism becomes accepted as fact, and theism is treated as the mental illness that it is, there should be a 3 step program to secure the scientific advancement of the human race.
1. Rehabilitation. Teach the fundies how their god is not real. I think this would be successful for at least 90% of the cases.
2. Sterilization. If people don't renounce their religion they should be sterilized. This way, they die alone and won't be able to spread their stupidity to children and out breed atheists. This would prevent an Idiocracy situation from occurring.
3. Imprisonment. If there are still people preaching their religion after this they should be thrown in either an asylum or in a prison. They can make license plates for cars after that along with picking up from trash by the road.
Only in the worst case scenarios though should a 4th step be implemented; execution. Only after this all happens worldwide will a near utopian society like the one depicted in this family guy episode would be possible.
Proof of this method working though can be found within any decent history text book about the USSR. Despite being a "dirty communist" country the USSR transformed from an agrarian society to the first nation in space in a few decades by eradicating theism. The PRC also implemented similar policies during the 60s/70s which led to the confiscation of religious property and opened the way to the economic successes of today. Likewise, Russia's economic failures during the 90s can be linked to a rise of religion.
If Christianity is so bad how come all the new inventions like computers, iPhones, Teslas, social media, military drones etc come from the US which is predominantly Christian country?
>>69346731
It's nice that Israel is bigger than russia but what happened to we wuz mathematicians and shiet?
>>69347739
Bonus. Christcucks would think they're going to heaven so it wouldn't even be that bad for them.
>Christian dark ages
How long has this been a meme for? Does anyone have that image that show's what ACTUALLY happened during the "Christian dark ages"
>>69347772
Christianity is mostly a lower class and uneducated thing.
Nah, Jews are.
>>69347385
>>69347535
No, my point is that Europe would be under the rule of Islamic sheikhs constantly fighting each other and we would end up like the ME. There would be no reformation, there would be no renaissance, there would only be repression and war under Shariah.
>>69347739
*MAXIMUN OVER TIPPING*
>>69347572
lol ur goood man. u shud post more funny fedora atheist nerds. lololol
>>69346440
Yes, but we might not be here without it.
>>69347739
How can someone post this without thinking they're idea isn't autistic
>>69347739
> Once that happens, almost all wars would stop, trillions of dollars would be freed up for welfare and science, and we could start colonizing the galaxy
what kind of fantasy world are you living in? Was world war 1 and 2 solely caused by religion?
>>69346440
No, Abrahamitic religion is.
>>69347978
Says who? Why don't you think Europeans would unite to fight invaders if some other thing had taken its place?
>>69347991
They really are a cancer.
No religion. Equal to:
No education
No science
No coherent human society
No agricultural revolution
No recorded history
A more realistic picture would be no civilization
>>69347936
Atheism is mostly a beta, and failure thing.
>>69346440
>I get my religious views from a cartoon
>atheists
Not even once
>>69346440
>didn't Seth create some sort of Mexican family guy already?
Personally, I don't think the show was funny since the Weinstein episode.
Name one scientist oppressed during the Medieval Era.
>>69346440
>Christianity never existed
>instead pagans fight wars about whatever the christians fought wars about
Christianity does not exist in a vacuum you fucking retards
You can't really equate religion to lack of progress directly. Ancient islamic society gave us algebra and great works of philosophy amongst others, but went shit because ultimately idiots outnumber intelligent people, regardless of religion. The renaissance and the rise of modern science also occurred in predominantly christian countries and was practiced by predominantly christian people.
I'd like to see religion gone but this meme is bullshit.
>>69348164
If you're not smart enough to figure out that Christianity is an old myth by the time you're 18 I sincerely believe you shouldn't be allowed to breed. People figure this shit out when they're 9 years old.
>>69346440
>This bait thread will probably reach 300+ posts
>>69346440
Yeah because the fall of roman empire and the bubonic plague was not what set us back. It was christianity. The stupidity of libtards are endless. Go reread atlas shrugged and talk about how socialism will give you 100 dollar barell oil price.
>>69348316
>>69348070
Yes, I am being serious. Everything i said is true. Faith, and superstition, and anti-reason are the worst things on earth. They cause more evil than anything else. It is a massive cancer, and it is not easy to combat it. If you want to look at the small picture. Fine. But leave us who care about the long arch of humanity alone to fix this.
If jesus faggery didn't exist some other stupid religion would fill the void, like feminism of something.
>Christian dark ages
Anyone who believes this is just as uneducated and uniformed as your modern day Christian
http://www.strangenotions.com/gods-philosophers/
>>69348316
Christianity isn't about the stories. Christianity is more of a moral guide. You insufferable faggot
>>69346440
Well, this is full retard. Did they forget it was the Christian monasteries that preserved ancient learning from before the fall of Rome? That it was monks and priests who were the original scientists?
>>69348107
>Says who? Why don't you think Europeans would unite to fight invaders if some other thing had taken its place?
Because they would have no central leadership to guide them into the fight. The Pope was a very important figure in this regard. He was above individual kings and his dissatisfaction could lead to a king losing his title and even his head.
A similar thing happened in Russian history. The reason the Mongols were so effective in conquering a good portion of Russia was because there was no central leadership. The different principalities fought among each other instead of fighting the invader and individually the fell to the horde. It wasn't until the Russian people were united that they fought of the Mongols for good.
Without the Pope, Europe would look much the same. The different kingdoms would squabble among each other, while the united caliphate ate them up one at a time.
>>69348164
>posting on pol
youre in no position to call anyone beta, christfag
>>69348453
love cannot be a command, order
Juan 13:34
>A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
>>69348375
The fedora picture, for when you're a christian and your faith stops holding up to logic, and you need a way out.
>>69348453
Why would I adhere to that book as a moral guide when my moral code doesn't align with it? Why would you base your life off a random myth from thousands of years ago?
>>69348582
>a random myth from thousands of years ago
>>69348453
if you need a book or story to figure out your morals youre a terrible person
>>69348628
Just make an argument or get filtered. Anime is cringey fag shit.
>>69348628
nice argument +1 i like your style great job
I read somewhere that the dark ages were so called specifically because there was little or no christianity at the time. Can anyone confirm?
>>69348741
theyre called the dark ages cus nothing of real significance happened
>>69346440
>>69346440
idiot fedora fag doesn't understand going to the route of problems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oLl4oppAv4
>>69346440
I'm a lifelong atheist in my 40s and the only thing they bitched about was how dumb it is to base your life and society on a fantasy rooted in the much revised scribblings of a 4000 year old desert tribe. A view which I personally share. Atheists don't support gay people because we're pro-gay we support you because we have a naturally evolved morality based on inclusion and the common good, which allows us to accept everyone and not judge you just because some authority figure says we should. Dawkins and Hitchens are not arrogant, they are well spoken and do an excellent job pointing out how ridiculous it is to be ruled by stone age mythology in a computer age. I've never seen anyone there 'with the mentality of an idiot' and would say that for a member or a persecuted social minority, you should maybe open your mind to other people's causes with as much understanding as you expect them to have for your own. Your comment is IMO pretty disgusting itself.
Yes, in some ways I am an arrogant asshole, I actually have the arrogance to stand up and argue for my beliefs or lack thereof. I'm certainly an asshole, I have a strong belief that MY actions manner. I have served my country, I have saved lives, I have volunteered my time at shelters, food kitchens and Ironman competitions. I have EARNED the right to be an arrogant asshole. .
>>69346440
>Family Goy
>Created by the biggest liberal jew to ever jew
>>69348582
What do you base your life around
>>69346440
>not walking into a city full of minarets
>>69348042
Because they are autistic and can't tell.
>>69348711
>>69348799
>get bombed
nice dubs
If it wasn't for the byzatines and orthodoxy the renaissance would've never have happened
also enjoy the muslims and being forced into believing to islam or getting beheaded
>>69347978
Honestly i doubt islam would even exist as it does today if not for christianity.
>>69346440
>Christianity is to blame for the European Dark Age
>No other religion has had Dark Ages
>No other region has had Dark Ages
Even still, it's arguable that scientific progress occurs as a result of the social breakdown and reconstructions that Dark Ages provide. The flowering of Athenian Democracy and Spartan Authoritarianism required the destruction of Mycenaean Monarchy centuries beforehand.
>>69348866
>accept everyone and not judge
Good luck with that Eloi.
>>69346440
No, multiculturalism is.
>>69346440
Unfortunately this also means the era of SJWs would have come much, much earlier and we would be back in the stone ages by now.
>>69348907
Being a good family member, friend and a contributing member of my community, music, sex and nature.
>>69347572
>Anxious
>>69346440
If it wasn't for modern religion, people would still be eating mushrooms and praising pagan gods. Too busy fucking and fighting to ever advance with science.
Civilizations get way more accomplish while sexually oppressed and made to live by rigid moral values.
If you blindly think religion is the biggest evil, you are retarded. The vast majority of people need something to believe in and give them motivation.
> If you believe in nothing, you will believe in anything
>>69349010
>persians
>seljuks
>ottomans
>umayyads
even more I can't be arsed to list.
>>69349106
>SJWism is the result of a coordinated conspiracy to brainwash people
>it would happen organically without christianity
Pick one.
>>69348702
>>69348711
Why would I need an argument when the fedora meme perfectly assassinates your character?
>>69346440
dark ages were mostly caused by constant muslim invasions
>>69346440
>muslims attack #03753975
>"And remember, it's ALL the religions that are bad!"
>>69349113
How can you be good member of society when you're an edgy fag.
>>69349175
>sexual oppression is a good thing
Go back to /r9k/ you fuckin weirdo.
>>69349238
I don't care what you want to do, I'm just saying I'm going to filter you if you don't make an actual argument.
>>69349010
The pic says that everything else is the same except Christianity doesn't exist. I worked off that premise.
>>69348420
>Faith, and superstition, and anti-reason are the worst things on earth
this I agree with
>They cause more evil than anything else
This is more or less a huge blanket statement but it's up for debate. Depending on what you want to define as "evil" I'll either agree with this or not. If we're talking death and carnage then from what I've seen the majority of deaths and wars were caused by things completely unrelated to religion, often times regarding race and land (WWI, WWII, Mongol conquests, The Three Kingdoms War)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll
If the death of hundreds of millions is what you would consider to be "evil" then religion is definitely not even close to the leading cause. In some wars it MAY be a cause but almost certainly not in the majority of wars. You can't just go around saying religion causes this and that because that's what you see on your atheist facebook page
>But leave us who care about the long arch of humanity alone to fix this.
I'm sure this should be obvious but religion (mostly) teaches peace and loving of all man. Just because the people who follow it don't follow it right doesn't mean religion is inherently bad
>>69346440
Marxism actually is.
>>69349257
reminder that the renaissance literally only happened to revive the classical culture and was HEAVILY influenced by christanity
>>69349290
I bet you unironically thing Hitler was cool and think blacks should be shot and you're calling me edgy.
>>69346440
No that would be the shingles.
>>69349001
if it wasnt for christianity it wouldve never had to have happened you fucking retard
>>69349420
Nope I don't.
I bet you think homosexuality is okay because 2 consenting adults.
>>69349341
Oh no please don't filter me whatever will I do!
>>69346440
Atheism is.
![0cd[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/OFn1Igb.png "0cd[1].png")
asian religions are pretty cool
>>69349506
Yeah I do. I bet you think casual sex destroys society.
>>69348741
It was coined because there's a lack of written texts from that age and it's pretty unknown what exactly happpened in christian yurop, and therefore people thought nothing interesting happened or no advancement were made
However now the term has been discarded by academics and anyone using it is a fool
>>69346440
Almost anyone with a bit of actual historical knowledge, even atheists, would call bullshit on this whole "the christians caused the dark ages" bullshit. If anything it was monasteries that worked hard to make copies of books and preserve them.
Admittedly some of the shit that happened to people like Galileo wasn't cool.
>>69347416
>terrorism has no religion
>criticize islam
>get stabbed in the streets of your own country
>>69346440
No. False religions (those other than Catholicism) are.
>>69349585
It does.
>>69349506
give a single goddamn reason why it wouldnt be okay
>>69346440
>le christianity ruined le human progress maymay
BUILD WALL JOLINES
>>69346440
Yes, and I can tell because I saw it in a cartoon created by a megaliberal.
>>69349652
How? What evidence do you have of this?
>>69349618
>""""false"""" religions
oh yeah that's ok
>other than catholicism
you lost me here
kill yourself heretical fuck
orthodoxy was the first and true christianity if it wasnt for the fucking retarded pope that was greedy and selfish
>burger education
>>69349341
Hahah brah, go take some history classes. Every civilization that's accomplished anything since the fall of Rome, has had some kind of sexual oppression. It's the carrot on a stick that motivates men to accomplish great things.
Not being an edge /r9k/ fag, just saying the truth. Go take an ancient history class.
>>69349413
nigga I love Bach too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUHQ2ybTejU
>watching family guy, the jew of cartoons
Okay.
>>69347158
what the fuck does the lack of christianity have to do with islam? if anything, atheists are more anti-muslim than christians because they realise that you shouldnt be left to believe whatever you want to believe, you shouldnt turn the other cheek, you should nuke their pathetic little countries into obvlivion
>inb4 haha u got bombed
thats not the fucking point
>>69349618
>Catholicism
>>69348316
>>69346440
Humans are intrinsically religious. The atheism of late-stage civilizations is an aberration which is more a reaction to the religion and culture of the previous generations than it is an actual lack of religious belief. These 'atheists' cobble together pseudo-religious structures out of science, mass media, politic, and bits of literature that they defend just as vigorously against 'heathens', and just as irrationally, as any religious people ever do. The difference is that their atheist substitute for traditional religion leaves them confused and unhappy and sows discord in society.
>>69347020
KEK
>>69349682
Casual sex harms the minds of teenagers who think that that's all that love is, who will get pregnant, and have a child they do not care for.
>>69349764
>Every civilization that's accomplished anything since the fall of Rome, has had some kind of sexual oppression
Yeah because of the cancerous semitic religions that spread after the fall of Rome.
Rome was great and was very sexually liberal.
>>69346440
Not all religions.
Cristanity was beneficial.
Islam was a spiritual plague and so it remains to this very day.
And Marxism is probably the most destructive religious movement in history.
>>69349491
>if it wasnt for christianity it wouldve never had to have happened you fucking retard
If it wasn't for the Germanic invasions of Rome and the corruption in the empire it would have never happened, you moron.
>>69349947
Rome fell because it was sexually liberal
>>69349944
You know that most teenagers end up having sex and a very small fraction of those teens get pregnant as teens right? You connected 3 dots that you plotted on your own.
>>69347739
That's what revolutionary France thought
>cult of reason
>cult of the supreme being
That's what revolutionary Mexico thought
>calles law
That's what various communist governments Thought
>league of the militant godless
>red guard
>juche
>khmer rouge
That's what you think
>lol
>>69346440
Fuck off and burn in hell heretic!
>>69349944
>i watch mtv and haven't a clue what real life is like
>>69350025
If that's the case, why did it last 1000 years when it was sexually liberal from the start? Oh right, you're an idiot.
Christianity actually preserved a lot of the Romans advancements.
The dark ages where dark because:
1) A giant fucking plague
2) Constant invasion from foreign nations (re: Islam)
3) Roman falling due to degeneracy and liberalism
4) European barbarians taking over and then slowing becoming enlightened
>>69346440
This one always makes me laugh. What of the rest of the non-Christian world during this era of Christian oppression? The "dark ages" were the product of many variables.
>>69347739
>>69347930
I've think I gotcha family
>>69347739
>>69349595
>Galileo
All he suffered was imprison in his house (comfortably so) for talking shit about the pope. Other than that,
>“The trial of Galileo was one of many trials. It had no special features except perhaps that Galileo was treated rather mildly, despite his lies and attempts at deception. But a small clique of intellectuals aided by scandal-hungry writers succeeded in blowing it up to enormous dimensions so that what was basically an altercation between an expert and an institution defending a wider view of things now looks almost like a battle between heaven and hell.” (Paul Feyerabend, Against Method, 4th ed. Verso. p. 127).
>>69348316
>>69347739
No, christianty rose in the USSR when it was industrialisied and became a superpower, and religion declined in the 90s
>>69346440
no Judeo-Christianity
People still have slaves and might makes right. Women and young boys casually getting rapped unless royalty. So pretty much Africa nowadays.
>>69349823
That picture is highly misunderstood.
The washing of the feet is a standard annual ritual in every Catholic church. It is also the Ecumenical Year of Mercy. There is nothing wrong with a Priest washing feet.
Chill Mexico.
Why do teenagers still think it's edgy to say shit like this in 2016, where religion is by far growing less and less relevant? Maybe this would've been edgy in the early 90s.
>>69350347
Because friendless assholes on 4chan have no gauge of what's socially appropriate besides this echochamber
>>69348741
Christianity was definetly the main religion of city dwellers by this time.
>>69348799
>Rome sacked
>Frankish Kingdom founded, progenitor of Western Europe
>Justinian's wars to reconquer the West
>Muslims took over North Africa
>Muslims took over Spain
>Charles Martel beat them back to Spain
>Charlemagne's wars
>Frankish kingdom divided
>Vikings, Magyars and Muslim Pirates
>Vikings settle down, Christianize
>Magyars settle down, Christianize
>Slavs settle down, Christianize
The foundations of modern Western European states were laid in the Dark Ages.
>>69350419
4chan is a cesspool
>>69350216
You the real MVP
>>69349947
Hahahaha. Sexually liberated compared to who? Ancient Romans considered many other civilizations around them to be more sexually liberated and even attacked them because of it. The Lucinian's are said to have fucked whenever they wanted in public and always shared wives.
Romans saw this as below them. Like animals.
Rome didn't become very sexually liberated till close to its fall. Take a class on the fall of a rome. Sexual liberation caused stagnation which started the process of romes demise.
>>69350312
>christianty rose in the USSR when it was industrialisied and became a superpower
Christianity rose in the USSR during WWII because Stalin couldn't keep his pops under control while needing to find bodies to fill boots. Turns out demolishing churches/mosques and executing the religious isn't a good way to make friends in a country that was 80% Orthodox and 15% Muslim.
>>69349491
please tell me you're a waal.
>>69347020
I need more sauce about this.
>>69350347
Because the world has gone insane
>>69350568
They wee exclusive to their wives, but before they got married they fucked whores, little boys and had bathhouse orgies.
Rome started falling when christianity started spreading.
>>69347739
>trillions of dollars would be freed up for welfare
top fucking kek
>and we could start colonizing the galaxy.
"we can like, ban religion and stuff and then we're ready to colonize the galaxy!"
> If people don't renounce their religion they should be sterilized
you are fucking cruel
this is honestly why people need religion
kill yourself you fucking idiot, if anything you're the one that should be sterilized you retarded autistic fuck. you're the only one that should be stopped from spreading your stupidity to future generations. fucking idiot.
>imprisonment
I hope you don't call yourself a progressive or antifa otherwise I'm really concerned about the future of humanity.
>Only after this all happens worldwide will a near utopian society
it's this meme again
>like the one depicted in this family guy episode
>he bases his opinions off edgy cartoons
>Proof of this method working though can be found within any decent history text book about the USSR.
That would be enough, thank you for being the most dense piece of shit I've ever met.
>>69350605
No, church repressions reversed before that and the church was encouraged from then on. Ortodoxhy and Russia is inseperable
>>69347845
kike bolshevists happened
>>69350347
>where religion is by far growing less and less relevant?
But you are wrong
http://time.com/3769287/religion-atheists-study/
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/the-world-is-getting-more-religious-pew-survey/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/04/03/why-people-with-no-religion-are-projected-to-decline-as-a-share-of-the-worlds-population/
http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/04/23/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/
http://time.com/3671514/islam-europe/
>>69350347
Because people still need to feel like they're the heroes fighting against some kind of oppressive and tyrannical evil.
Perhaps this attitude might have been genuinely edgy 30-40 years ago, but nowadays the only Christians who would get super offended by this stuff are a small minority. You want a religion that will persecute you for criticism? I can think of one that happily bombs places and shoots them up just for a cartoon...
>>69350817
Yeah it's growing in shitholes. In the west it's been falling for decades, at least christianity.
>>69350605
Russia and Eastern Europe was always more Christian than the west even under communism, which was conservative Anyway and its the only reason we are still resisteng degeneracy
>>69350711
Christianity wasn't the cause of Rome falling. If anything Christianity saved the eastern roman empire from the same fate as western roman empire.
>>69350871
The west is the worst shithole in the world, full of autists, degenerates and cooperate exploation
>>69349191
this is what threw us into the dark ages really.
>>69350962
Christianty saved and built Europe. All good Pagan traditions were absorbed into Orthodoxhy and Catholicism Anyway
>>69346440
But a necessary disease.
Human beings need a superior being to base their moral values on, and have something to fill on our fear to death.
If humanity is proactive and can coexist without the need of a punish/reward system, religions would no longer be necessary, but we're too dumb for that.
>>69350010
>>69350992
Look at this cuck ignoring everyone's arguments. We just as close-minded as mainstream Christians now ay?
>>69350871
Did you even look at the links?
Says Islam is growing in America and Europe and is projected to be the dominant religion all over the world
Stop making excuses
>>69350962
Romme did fine without christcuckoldry for hundreds of years and then everything started going to shit when it started really spreading.
Prove to me that sex without marriage hurts society.
>>69351182
The problem is not islam Anyway
>>69351182
>at least christianity
Only 2-5% of Americans are muslims and it's not going anywhere fast. Non-religious is the fastest growing group in the US by far. Look it up.
>>69351287
>flag
>>69351290
The fastest growing religion is Orthodoxhy i think. New Russian Empire now!
>>69347535
Actually wars make science go foward, when countries needs more tecnology to beat their enemy they put more money and effort to get them, do I have to remind you ARPANet (Advanced Research Projects Agency Network) was created for military mainly use? every medicine advance is also use for military too.
and about the church hating science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqzq01i2O3U
>>69351323
What?
>>69351379
War is one of the best things ever!
>>69351403
nevermind, Sayyed Muhammed Al-Göteborg
>>69346440
>forgetting that the first universities were religious institutes
I want this fucking meme to die.
Seth Mcfaggot is ill-informed and an idiot, why do you even listen to him?
Also if people weren't fighting over religion, they'd find something fucking else to fight over.
It's not about religion, it's about human fucking nature you easily brainwashed fuckwits.
>>69346440
>le dark ages meme
People who still believe this shit shouldn't be allowed to vote.
>>69351290
How about instead of pulling facts out your ass you provide sources to back up your claims?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/global-study-atheists-decline-only-18-world-population-2020
>>69347739
t. Stalin
>>69351598
Stalin isn't bad! He made the USSR great again!
:^ )
>>69347020
Saved
>>69346731
Warlocks*
>>69351583
Americans you cunt. Everyone knows this and it's on pewresearch.
>>69350466
That's rich, coming from Dark & Brown Town.
>>69346440
Without Christianity, Mithraism or Zoroastrianism or Islam would have taken its place. This is a meme argument by retards who don't read up on actual history. Without Christianity to protect the Western civilizations from foreign invasions we would not enjoy the amount of progress we already have today. Dark Ages was caused by fucking pagans and barbarians from the Middle East and the fucking Huns, Christianity as we know it was a response to rampant superstition and Earth-worshipping cults that thought you had to sacrifice a virgin to appease some god of the river, etc. Read "God's Philosophers" if you want to learn how we've been lied to about the 'Christianity caused the dark ages' myth and how it led to the High medieval period and eventually the enlightenment.
>>69346943
>Peruvian academia
>existing
pick one
>>69351151
Yea, this.
>>69347845
isolationist during cold war, if your smart and Russian your not Russian for too long.
>>69346440
>it also means Islam never happened
>>69351876
Says they too are declining and islam is growing you delusional faggot
>>69346440
the best part of this argument is the racism in assuming non-Christian countries cannot advance the world
>>69347739
Thanks for the new pasta, you autist
>>69351214
Romans worshipped Mithras who was a Christ like figure who was sent by the sun god to bring light (enlightenment) to the world. Scholars who see statues of Jupiter and Mars and assume the Romans worshipped them are wrong because veneration of your ancestors (the Romans considered Jupiter their ancestor - the 'piter' is from 'pater' or father) was commonplace in Roman society. Every family could trace their lineage back multiple generations and even dedicated entire rooms/temples to their ancestors. The pantheon was just what they believed to be their common ancestors that everyone shared. Christianity took a lot from Mithraism and Zoroastrianism and was actually a rival religion of these for many hundreds of years until the Catholic Church gained a foothold and began to outlaw the other religions. By this time however the Empires power had already been in decline.
>>69352367
>>69352678
Australia and Canad are getting pretty difficult to compete with these days. People will totally fall for pasta from /r/atheism.
>>69350423
i knew that but i was too lazy to type that out, im just saying that the world wouldnt actually be much different had any of those things not have happened/happened differently, europe would just look different, nothing in the way of world war 1-2 happened in all those years, it was a very long period of relative nothingness (keyword: relative) and thats why theyre the "dark" ages
>>69346440
>Is Religion the worst disease in human history?
No, it's not. While I'm an atheist I understand the necessity of religion. Religion is one of the primary causal factors of advancement in human civilization. Humanity in general lacks the capability to function in cohesive social groups without external control. Without the external social controls provided by religion and it's guidance of human interaction, most of humanity would still be living in mud huts and killing each other with sharp sticks.
Consider some of the religious social controls that have eroded and the consequences which have arisen.
>Gynocentrism and female sexuality-
Virtually every religion to ever exist has had strict controls on female nature and the treatment of women. Such widespread commonality among very disparate religions is not a coincidence, unrestrained female nature is a cancer to social cohesion. We are seeing the results of that control dissipating throughout western societies.
>In-group violence-
While violence is a part of human nature, religion focused that violence toward outside targets, minimizing violence between social peers. These bonds have decayed, resulting in increased intra-social violence.
Sadly religion is essentially a crutch for individual agency, as most people lack the self-control to be decent members of society without that external guidance.
What the hell? Why the fuck would you make this thread? For what purpose could it possibly exist to serve? Was there honestly any reason to start this? Could you really not have gone your whole life without starting this? I really don't see any reason for it to exist. It's like, "hey, let's start a stupid fucking thread that serves no fucking purpose!" Do you enjoy this? Is this your twisted way of having fun? Are you enjoying yourself? Why would you do this? And why the fuck have so many people replied to this shitty thread? Who would subjugate themselves to such self-loathing? Is there any reason? Do they get off on it? Why? Who does that? You guys are a bunch of disgusting freaks. I don't even know why I come here anymore.
>>69346731
>Iceland more useful than Africa excluding SA
OK, OP. Show us on the doll where the priest touched you.
>>69353946
so you admit that youre all dirty pedos?
>>69347739
>mfw
The only mistake made with religion was something like Islam being taken seriously and being protected like other religions. You know Islam is bullshit when it even stirs buddhists into action against them.
There are multiple meanings to "religion".
>Fundamental religion
Examples: Islam, Catholicism, Hinduism - anything which requires you to have faith and turn off reason. Fundamentalists don't usually question their beliefs leading to a feedback loop of belief that causes cognitive disonence. Fundamentalists believe in a physical god(s) who shares human characteristics and traits. They see science and philosophy as bad because it poses difficult to answer questions that they do not possess the knowledge or desire to answer. Their belief usually reinforces their preexisting morals or values rather than shaping them. They care more abut what they wish was true rather than what actually is true.
>Philosophical religion
Examples: Gnosticism, certain types of Buddhism
Usually not organized like other religions and is a way of thinking, more concerned with finding the truth than reinforcing their wants or preconceived notions of morality. Follow the Greek line of philosophical thinking constantly challenging their beliefs and reshaping them in order to achieve higher states of being. Less concerned with the material world, much more interested in the spirit world or exploring higher stated of conciousness through deep meditation. The ultimate goal isn't to spread their beliefs or conquer the world, but to attain gnosis or higher knowledge of truth. Usually not concerned with religious ceremony or adhering to certain codes of conduct. See God worship as pointless and sometimes evil in the case of the Demiurge - think the "one true god" is a lesser imitation of the actual creator who probably did not even create the universe on purpose. Gnostics want to unravel the illusion of the physical world while fundamentalists believe the physical world is all there is and that Heaven/Hell share the same physical properties as Earth.
And then there are atheists who believe the physical world is all there is and many don't even bother to uncover any spiritual truth.
>>69354373
All of them are cancer.
>>69353231
Do you not understand that Europe shaped the world?
Without Spain, North and South America would look entirely different. Significant portions of the diet of Asiatic and Middle Eastern people have been influenced by New World crops.
Most of the refinement of gunpowder technology took place in Europe. Without the Portuguese, both Ming China and Sengoku Japan would have different trajectories.
Even a small change, like Muslim rule lasting far longer in Sicily would have substantial effects on history. Rome could have become less safe, it was raided by Muslim pirates in 846. Had those raids become more regular the Papacy would have to move north. With resources in northern Italy now focused on long term war against Muslim enemies in the south it's debatable whether they would have developed the independent city states necessary for the rebirth of republican civic values otherwise known as the Renaissance.
Even a small change in the map of Europe back during the Dark Ages would have enormous ramifications for the entire Western World and all the places greatly influenced by it.
>atheists
>only attack Christian religions
Can someone explain the """"""Atheist"""""" meme to me
>>69347739
>Once that happens, almost all wars would stop
>Proof of this method working though can be found within any decent history text book about the USSR.
>The PRC also implemented similar policies during the 60s/70s which led to the confiscation of religious property and opened the way to the economic successes of today
>>69354814
because if youre an atheist in the middle east you get executed
>>69354808
this shit still happened over hundreds of years, this stuff is still relatively insignificant compared to other times
>>69354814
The meme comes from """""""Atheists"""""""" who want to be special snowflakes and more intelligent because they don't believe in god. They also believe that science was held back by le evil christcucks and Carl Sagan, NDT, and Christopher Hitchers will save us all.
>>69354636
Explain
>>69355480
I would argue that although the timeframe was long and the salient points fewer than in other times that those key events were just as significant as other time periods.
>>69356283
the key events might have been just as significant but the time period wasnt because it was so extremely stretched.
>>69346831
so underrated
>>69354373
I just want to let you know that your view of Hinduism is embarrassing. Hindiusm or better Dharmic religions encompass beliefs as varied as Monism, Monotheism, Polytheism and Animism. There is no book of doctrine like Islam or Catholicism. Hinduism has varied philosophies and in fact has had schools of thought that resemble materialism (modern atheism). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvaka
>>69347739
If you actually think about it then it's impossible for there to be a god/creator. If we believe that one thing can happen only when another thing acts upon it, then for the Big Bang to happen something had to make it happen. That thing that made it happen would then be the creator/God.
>>69358879
For there to not be a god*
>>69346440
No, modern liberalism/cultural marxism is.
>>69346731
This map is biased by landmass. Use a bar graph or some shit.
>>69346440
Nah familia, you're the desease.
>>69346731
GOOK STRONK
>>69348866
You talk about your self a lot
Alotta atheists do that
