Don't you think it's a bit odd that all the death camps for on the Russian side of the conflict? What is the logistical reason for doing this?
Also, general holohoax thread.
fpbp
>>69339589
dumb frog poster
d/bumping
>>69339550
That way the jew founded soviet union could hide them
The holocaust was greatly exaggerated as just another jew trick the jews have been pulling for centuries.
NEVER TRUST A JEW
IS THIS THREAD EXPOSING THE NOSE?
JIDF INBOUND
>>69339550
Why were the original concentration camps that the British built for the Boers in South Africa?
Because if you want to keep an ethnic group in camps you build these camps where most of these people live, for logistical reasons. Poland had the world's largest Jewish population before the war.
>>69339550
Because that's where all the Jews were
Because the germans had gotten rid of most of their jews by sending them to other countries
While Poland had a huge number of them that no one would take anywhere else
>>69339986
Then why not distribute labor camps there? Wouldn't that make logistical sense?
Why only kill there and ship all of the able bodied people across the country to do labor?
>>69339550
They did not want to make big death camps on land the though that is part of great reich.
Smaller camps were found in west germany, some of the were discovered by murrica army. Read some books about your army during ww2 senpai.
Wasn't treblinka just a transitcamp?
>>69340189
How do you explain >>69339736?
>>69339936
>wtf
can we not infiltrate the JIDF somehow, and fuck them up?
>>69339737
They're enjoying themselves in Mississippi.
>This here's Bertha!
>. . .
>>69339736
Death camp or concentration camp, both are bad, also likelihood of dying in concentration camp was pretty high, unless you were somehow useful to the Germans. I suggest reading Forest of the Gods, for concentration amp, it was written of one Lithuanian professor, Balys Sruoga who was in Stutthof. He has very sarcastic tone about whole deal.
>>69340245
If some camps were not called death it change nothing, germans were killing people there as well
Heres landsmark conc camp with 101 airborne soldiers.
I said
>They did not want to make big death camps on land the though that is part of great reich.
Jews from France were transported straight to death camps and not murdered in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold%27s_Report
>>69339550
It's logical as fuck that the death camps weren't located where german (or other) people could learn about them. That's what history teaches at least
Also makes sense that they were in locations with harsher climate
Nazis did a pretty good job hiding it which is why so many people doubt it was ever real to this day
>>69340654
...that report claims the existence of ovens capable of burning 8,000 people a day.
You realize that isn't possible, right? It would have to be gigantic and the fuel requirements would be astronomical.
>>69339550
It's a hoax, not in a giant conspiracy kind of hoax, it's the kind of hoax where the winner got to write history, piled all crimes real or imaginary on the germans and there was no one to question it. At the end of WW2 being German was enough to get you killed and beaten, let alone having anything to do with the concentration camps. People who "confessed" were given "trials" people who didn't got executed.
Read this short essay about it
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndGraf.html
>>69339550
So the killing doesn't happen on german soil. It's as simple as that.
>>69340999
That's basically what I have come to believe. Too many inconsistencies such as the ones posted ITT.
>>69340882
B-but thats why the german tanks didn't have enough gas on the east front, r-right?
>>69339550
because it needs to be in remote places far away from any big city.. to keep it secret.
Also in for example Poland the Germans were building massive underground bunkers in the mountains, bases, warplane factories etc etc. You need workers close by
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Riese
>>69341117
I guess. I'm not doubting that it may have happened. I'm doubting the scale.
>>69341070
>>69340865
Makes sense.
>>69340331
Holy shit, the picture is right. SS never used that kind of shaped rifle. The closest I could find was the Gewehr 24t, but that bump is very prominent in it's design... The Gewehr isn't even comparable.
Still not discounting the Holocaust, but still... That picture is the main picture for the Einsatzgruppen wikipedia page
>>69341088
>Too many inconsistencies
that's the problem, camps were never made as a propaganda tool, they weren't made to be widely seen and talked about
when the nazis lost, the media had to report the news somehow so they made up a lot of eye candy for the pleb. It's not a new thing for the media to make content out of thin air since they always have to have something new to bring fast
So in the end, it gives a lot of "proof" material to revisionists
But that's only if you disregard all actual more plausible proofs it happened
>>69341117
>we dindu nothing
Are you just doubting the 6 Million number or the whole holocaust in general?
>>69339550
>>69339986
>>69340038
>>69340189
>>69340865
>>69341070
>>69341171
All these fucking bluepill answers.
Nearly every one of the green ones was called a death camp before evidence proved them wrong.
Dachau was billed as at least as bad as Auschwitz, Bergen Belsen was supposed to be worse. Buchenwald, Theresienstadt, and Mathausen were all called death camps, and that's just the ones I remember being taught about in school.
Then documents were declassified and the narrative changed that only the camps in Poland were death camps, because the Soviets were much better at faking their records, building extra chimneys to make the camps seem bigger, etc.
>>69340331
That's a pretty nutty ass picture.
>>69341380
The scope.
>>69341404
Дeбил, why would USSR fake records pertaining to murdering Jews, if USSR under Stalin was very antisemitic (and generally anti-human) as well?
>>69341520
Possibly to lump Human rights abuses committed by the Soviets to the Germans. Pic related >>69340331
>>69341520
Because he won and knew that if everyone would blame Gitler then noone would touch him.
>>69341550
I think there are deniers dumb enough to actually swallow that bait.
>>69341380
i deny targeted genocide and gas chambers. 100 million human beings died in the wars, that is the holocaust and the fault is not on germany or the nazis
>>69341520
> if USSR under Stalin was very antisemitic (and generally anti-human) as well?
What kind of horseshit revisionist history is this? Anti-semitism was still a crime punishable by death in Stalins USSR. He was also one of the main supporters of Israel
>>69341743
Whose fault is it then? Hitler himself provoked the war with the annexation of land, populated by Germans.
>>69341627
Except Tito detested Stalin and had no interest in creating propaganda like this.
>>69341633
You make no sense. If anything, propping up Holocaust and THEN mass-deporting, imprisoning and executing Jews would make Stalin even more unpopular among the Allies.
>>69341743
And what about the mass starvation of Soviet POWs? Wouldn't you call that genocide?
>>69341404
>they dindu nothing
Thousands poles were murdered by Germans for helping/hiding jews.
If germans were able to kill 50k poles civilians in 7 days I see no reason to not belive that they were responsible for bigger mass murders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre
Germany started a war, but there was no reason to act like animals and killing thousands civilians with guns or in work camps. Europe have seen hundreds wars before, but leaders of those war did not kill random people because they could.
Napoleon is today a hero not a mass murdered.
>>69339550
I think trump wants to do the same thing with Mexicans.
trump is evil
>>69341887
hitler was trying to peacefully reunite the german speaking peoples after a deadly anglo war of aggression that ravaged europe, thats not a "provocation" in the eyes of anyone but an anglo and a beaten german with stockholm syndrome
>>69342000
plenty of people starved, it was a horrible war that should never have happened. genocide is the intentional destruction of particular genes, a food shortage does not qualify, though its also a horrible tragedy there is important difference
>>69342006
>Germany started a war, but there was no reason to act like animals and killing thousands civilians with guns or in work camps.
they did the same in Africa 20/30 years earlier..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Namaqua_Genocide
>>69341746
Oh wow, a romanian is trying to educate me on history of my country.
also
>falling for muh antisemitism PR laws
He was a rabid anti-"zionist", deported every jew he could to a literal middle-of-nowhere shithole, Birobidzhan (only because he couldn't just genocide them like Hitler because of both foreign opinion and domestic politics), and killed every jew in Soviet leadership in 30s.
After his death, his legacy lingered - there were Дeлo Bpaчeй, otkazniks and mass firing of jewish academia.
>>69340331
>>69339550
Easy even the allied governments knew.
>French people are humans
>Slavs are subhumans
Why would you kill humans in a inhumane way?
That would have made their story less believable
Personal favorite since it's a direct study.
We played active role in guilt-tripping germany into a bitch state
Thats how we roll
>>69343017
This one is a little satire considering it's criticizing some retarded russian site.
>>69342180
But those POWs were deliberately starved, killing hundreds of thousands young men. Why wouldn't I call that a genocide?
Fair enough to your other point.
>>69342999
Dont worry when it all comes out into the mainstream we will make actual death camps for you
>>69339550
>building death camps near german cities
also nice source
>>69339644
nice source
>>69339689
proves nothing
>>69339701
1. germans probably did not want to exterminate all jews, but the amount of survivors proves nothing
2. because holocaust is not war. also, if winners faked holocaust, why didn't they write about it in their books?
3. because it wasn't born as a death camp
4. nice point
5. germans could have destroyed them
6. numbers like these are more symbolic than anything else
7. because speaking of gassing and torture is gross?
8. auschwitz is not all at the same altitude
9. proves nothing
10. nice point
11. proves nothing
12. proves nothing
14. proves nothing
15. citation needed
16. source?
17. nice point
18. proves nothing
19. proves nothing
20. so what?
21. citation needed
>>69339714
proves nothing
>>69339736
proves nothing
also no source, who is "us"?
>>69339737
>>69339785
these doors are not the original ones
proves nothing
>>69339756
>>69339774
some jewish fairytales don't disprove holocaust
i actually want to believe to revisionists, but you have such shit arguments
>>69340882
>You realize that isn't possible, right? It would have to be gigantic and the fuel requirements would be astronomical.
They sure as hell had enough flammable liquids to not only torch half of Warsaw, but also burn thousands of bodies left behind after whole quarters have been slaughtered.
Most of bodies in concentration/death camps later on were disposed in trenches via similar means after cremation ovens couldn't handle routine exterminations.
>>69343184
>who is US?
The United States retard.
>>69343184
Anon, are you retard or just a shill?
>>69343292
He's right though. Image macros, ignoring the fact half of them lack a source, make for shitty arguments
>>69343292
yes but who? when? how? you can't just slap random shit together on a map and expect me to believe it
>>69343395
tell me where i'm wrong
>>69343184
>Proves nothing
As in -> doesnt fit my narrative?
You are just as pathetic as religious who refuse reality.
>>69340036
I don't get why people keep asking "why 6 millions?" and such stuff. If they simply read a simple quick wiki article they would understand it. Why is ignorance so easily spread in these days and times?
>>69343098
are you sure it was deliberate or did it have to do with european agriculture and transportation infrastructure being destroyed by the largest war in history raging overhead? the story is very similar to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andersonville_National_Historic_Site
and i cant say that they wanted to genocide eachother. scorched earth tactics usually result in this kind of tragedy and were used heavily in ww2 and the american civil war
let's just say that we killed SOME jews
wouldn't that be fine with everyone?
>>69342429
>the jew cries out as he strikes you
Jews always see themselves as the persecuted ones, even though they basically ran the country before Stalin and killed millions of non-jews
Stalin would not accept several million jewish refugees if he was anti-semitic, he would disconitune the laws that punish you BY DEATH for anti-semitism, he would not aid Israel.
You jews are delusional
>>69343252
That's a false equivalency.
It's a lot easier to burn a shitload of bodies in a city as the city itself is the fuel.
That doesn't apply to an oven.
>>69343495
You're avoiding the main point anon, which is the Holocaust doesn't add up
>>69343518
a fake pro-holocaust argument doesn't make holocaust fake, got it hans?
anyway i told i'm a revisionist myself, so stop accusing me of nothing
>>69343494
>>69343495
Read a fucking book or Google "concentration camps inspected by US"
I'd expect you kikes to have them memorized by now.
;^)
>>69339550
It makes sense, you don't shit where you eat, and you don't want the population you rule over see you for the monster you really are.
>>69343712
>oy vey stop the hate goyim, I'm one of you!
>>69343719
>Read a fucking book
tell me, what book do you recommend?
>Google "concentration camps inspected by US"
why don't you google it and post a reliable source about these inspections and a relation of what has been found in them?
i bet those "inspections" are just as reliable as memories of the jewish survivors
>>69340331
can confirm, i own a yugo mauser
>>69343948
What are we supposed to rely on then if we can't trust the Jews or the US?
>>69343693
this is absolutely true
but who has the burden of proof? i believe it's the revisionists
>>69344079
that's a big problem, because most of literature and even original documents (such as pictures) are corrupted by pro-holocaust shills
>>69344218
> party a claims something is true
> party b says the claims are not consistent
> party a places the burden of proof on party b
This logical fallacy is part of the issue with the holocaust.
>>69344218
When that burden lays upon the original claimant, and they lack a lot of proofs.
>>69343632
>It's a lot easier to burn a shitload of bodies in a city as the city itself is the fuel.
Witnesses stated that bodies were piled up and set ablaze.
Not everything that is flammable can be readily used as vehicle fuels and Nazis were well-aware of that. Tar oils expelled by the force of pressurized gas were used instead of gasoline or more crude fuels.
>That doesn't apply to an oven.
That is what I am saying. There was a point at which they were insufficient and dead bodies were simply piled up, burned and disposed of in the open.
>>69339550
Guess
>>69344585
>people believe it's that easy to burn bodies
We have litres upon litres of water in our bodies.
>>69344467
>party b says the claims are not consistent
If one hypothesis is to fall apart, there needs to be already either an earlier hypothesis or a counter-hypothesis. Holocaust denial challenges Holocaust in its near-entirety by pointing at various suspicious bits, but whenever deniers are asked to present their own consistent theory, a shitstorm and fingerpointing ensues.
>>69342708
what's exactly the point? the second one isn't even a photo
>>69342905
might have just arrived at the camp
>>69342994
nice direct study
mind showing source?
>>69344467
>>69344494
true, but try explaining this to public opinion
20th century history is already "written", and there's no way for revisionism other than disprove all pro-holocaust claims with strong proofs, and provide a solid alternative version of history
>>69339550
Real answer: They're all on the territory of General Government - the occupied Poland under direct control of the military.
Germany itself and its dependent states had civil governments that followed some semblance of law even during the war, to keep the society going. General Government didn't need to do that, it was nothing but an ethnic cleansing operation, pure and simple. The whole existing society and people were to be destroyed. They just went for the Jews first.
>>69344862
>Leave the bodies to rot for a while
>Burn the bony fleshrag that remained.
>>69342994
He never published his findings so they can be peer-reviewed.
No Neo-Nazi "proof" passed the scrutiny of academia.
>b-but academia is Jewish
Tough luck then.
You have no proof. Holocaust as well as other Nazi crimes (which were even worse and Neo-Nazis ignore them) are highly documented.
Denying Holocaust is like denying Roman Empire ever existed.
>>69344585
I think we are talking past each other here. I am refering to fuel in the sense of a flame, fuel is the energetic source for the flame. I think you're talking about a vehicle?
Even in the scenario of piling bodies to be burned, they surely would not burn without some kind of fuel, and a lot of it as the human body is heavy and mostly water.
This fuel may be wood, clothing, etc. These things are abundant in a city and in the event the flame reaches sufficent size and creates a firestorm, such as in Dresden, then the requisite energy needs are more than met to burn a large quantity of bodies by simply stacking them near the city-scale fire.
Reading into what happened in Warsaw, it would appear that they did, in fact, use the city itself and its building as the fuel for the flame.
An oven has no such city block to consume I'm order to create the environment needed to burn that many people.
>>69344947
The null hypothesis exists, anon.
Stop trying to shift the burden of proof.
Have a picture of some chink.
Did anyone else here just never believe in the Holocaust? I was a pretty bright kid and when we learned all this stuff in school I never really believed what they were coming out with. I suck at stuff like maths and science but being lied to (not on purpose or directly, obviously) was always obvious to me and the Holohoax was something that set off tons of red flags.
>>69345117
Well, for a time, at least, after a part of expanded GG turned into Afghanistan of its own volition:
http://www.zamosconline.pl/text.php?id=3006&rodz=opoz
>>69339550
When the Russian people saw these death camps, they were outraged. They formed into huge mobs, and marched right up to the gates, where they demanded to be let in and treated to the life of luxury the Jews were getting for free.
>>69339550
Soviet Poland did not let western inspectors in.
Because the Soviets cut off their supply line and the prisoners there starved.
They also died of typhoid.
The holocaust never happened.
>>69345329
Okay then.
Please then, for something completely different, give me at least semi-consistent revisionist alternative for what exactly happened and what became of all these people.
>>69345387
>I suck at stuff like maths and science
>negationist
>>69345405
lol
>>69343184
You didn't answer #13.
>>69345552
which people?
if you mean the millions of alleged holocaust victims, there is no proof of their existence before ww2
>>69345387
>I was a pretty bright kid
>I suck at stuff like maths and science but being lied to was always obvious to me
You are more of a humanist-oriented rationalist, then? :^)
>>69345485
Wasn't it Allied bombing?
>>69345271
First, what people don't understand is that Holocaust wasn't just Auschwitz.
They shot or starved shitload of people outside of concentration and extermination camps.
So they didn't burn or gas 6 million.
>>69345552
This is the "begging the question" fallacy.
You're asking a question where your preferred conclusion is contained in the premise of the question.
You're committing logical fallacies all over the place. The burden of proof always lies on the one making the claim, saying "well you're claiming my claim is wrong so now it's your job to disprove it" is a fallacy.
>>69345694
Poland, the true "reading comprehension" capital of the world :^)
>>69345736
Understood, but Auschwitz is claimed to have gassed and burned 1.5 million people.
It's thermodynamically impossible.
>>69345857
>one making the claim
Except it's you people who make the claim.
You people literally claim tens of thousands of historians and tens of thousands of works on the subject are all based on false premises or outright lies.
You literally deny the most documented war crime of all time. Fuck, Holocaust is more documented than most of medieval European history.
You go against logic. You need to provide extremely strong proofs to even be considered serious.
Finally, Holocaust is 1 (ONE) aspect of massive German war crimes. Even if you disprove Holocaust, you still have shitload of other crimes.
It doesn't vindicate them.
>>69341520
literally retarded.
>>69342826
jew filth.
>>69345952
1.1 million actually, and why?
Auschwitz was a huge operation.
It speaks of how idiotic Nazis were that they wasted resources on that while pressed hard on various fronts.
>>69345669
There was no #13
>>69346465
or it never happened.
>>69345857
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that is why there will never be a decent counter-hypothesis to Holocaust, only endless nitpicking in a hope that everyone starts to pretend that there was an unexplainable gap in history that should be best left behind. :^)
Isn't it the SJW way to focus on challenging definitions and statistics while refusing to answer as to how their big picture is supposed to hold together, let alone how it looks like? Come on!
>>69346255
>>69346345
>>69346388
>>69346531
Yep, that will show him how wrong his claims are! :^)
A holocaust doesn't exist it is an anti-german invention, same as me inventing murdericide, killing someone with scary and spooky intent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-ZGAGcJrk
>>69346531
Okay, let's say it hypothetically never happened.
What's with other German war crimes?
Finally, what are you gonna do with this information you acquired?
What will come out of it?
>>69346543
Neo-Nazis are nothing but the other side of SJW coin.
>>69346722
Germans are POC, they also were oppressed by systimatic racism from the french, polish, russians, anglos, and Americans, rich and privileged white Americans taking all the Germans money is what lead to crimes, they were starving and poor POC under systimatic Racism and oppression,.
>>69346521
No shit, that picture is as old as /pol/, it's an old joke.
>>69346976
socio-economic factors,poverty, and systimatic Racism against POC Germans is what led to some German crimes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans
>>69346976
systematic oppression and slavery from the hunnic empire is responsible for German crimes.
>>69341944
He knew nobody would find out because the only foreign reporters that reported on the Soviet Union were Communist cucks like Walter Duranty who thought the sun shined from Stalin's asshole.
>What is the logistical reason for doing this?
Almost all jews lived in eastern europe. Germany actually did not have that many jews(600 000) while 10% of Polands population were jews.
>>69347271
Slavery and oppression from the Polish-Lithuanian common wealth is what led Germany to declare war on Poland, they were getting revenge on the white man for their ancestors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Homage
>>69343184
Not an argument.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TBT2I7V9MBLL37CKA
racism and slavery from the roman empire is what made Germans hostile to white man.
Germans and North Eurpeans were menial Roman slaves of the lowest order used mainly for physical labor.
Though ethnicity seems to have played little role in who would be Roman slaves, it did seem to play a part in what tasks they would be assigned to once in service.
Obviously, the era one looks at will play a role, as each major conquest would bring a new influx of people from various parts of the world, but certain factors seem to hold true throughout Roman history.
Gauls, Germanics and other 'barbarian' races were preferred for their strength and endurance.
Germans were in apartheid and enslaved.
>>69347372
Then how it is that DDR had the strongest pro-nazi sentiment during its existence? Surely such a grand wizard of ZOG as Stalin would have punished them for being so unprogressive!
Stalin was more than willing to work hundreds of thousands of regular Germans to death while quite a lot of former nazis were woven into new framework of power.
And then there is a fact that Stalin's reign wasn't eternal - his successors were perfectly okay with their vassal states engaging in anti-zionist hysteria as it gave leaders much needed respite from worrying about crumbling industries.
>>69339608
stealth kek
Can Canada stop shitposting
>>69348834
>posting something against what I want
>shitposting
Nobody is saying ALL of those 6 gorillion jews were killed in gas chambers
>>69339550
>Don't you think it's a bit odd that all the death camps for on the Russian side of the conflict?
Not if you know your history. German Jews were expelled, they were not subject to extermination. As the Nazi's moved east, the SS brought the Slavic jews with them.
The idea was to keep moving the Jews east, using them for forced labor, and eventually shoving them into Siberia. Of course, the Eastern front was eventually halted by the Russians, so a new plan was needed. Most were sent to the "General Area" in eastern Poland, but the regional administration couldn't support them, so eventually the SS decided to just exterminate them.
The scariest thing about the Holocaust was how unconscious and mechanical it was. It just sort of happened from necessity.
>>69350368
"the holocaust"
What is the or a holocaust?
>>69345202
But anon, there's proof one existed, while the other has none.
>>69350557
Millions of jews and slavs didn't magically blooped in and out of existence, dear Anon.
>>69351208
"millions of slavs"
1. Population 1939 (by Language Spoken) 35,000,000 24,300,000 3,200,000 800,000
\
Poles
Polacy Total population
c.60 million
Regions with significant populations
Poland 37,394,000[1]
United States 10,600,000[2]
Brazil 3,000,000[3]
Germany 2,000,000 - 3,000,000[4][5][6]
Israel 1,250,000[7]
Canada 1,010,705[8]
France 1,000,000[9]
Belarus 900,000[10]
United Kingdom 630,000[11][12]
>>69351357
>35 million by 1939
Correct.
After WWII ended and Poles were mostly repatriated into new area of Poland we only had 23,6 millions of people left.
Care to explain this "magic"?
>>69352196
The German Board of Public Health in December 1918 claimed that 763,000 German civilians had died during the Allied blockade
The treaty stripped Germany of 25,000 square miles (65,000 km2) of territory and 7,000,000 people.
Poland massacred the Germans in Prussia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7rexRE2-w
The Jews riled up against Germany for their Anti-Jewry, yet Germans can't stand up for Anti-Germanism?
>>69339774
Are you denying that Adolf Hitler's Holocoaster was the favourite attraction of Auschwitz inmates?
>>69342180
Look, I don't believe in the official holocaust, and I seriously doubt there was any 'systematic extermination', but it's just disingenuous to claim that the war was started by anything other than German militarism. The annexation of Austria, okay fine, they're German speakers and probably belong in the Reich. The annexation of Czechoslovakia, however, really showed Hitler's true intentions. His claim that somehow Poland was preparing to invade Germany, a state so much more immensely powerful than them, is fucking insane and only Nazi cocksuckers believe it.
>>69345202
>Denying the illogical nature of holocaust claims and pointing out inconsistencies in the 'official record' is the same as denying the existence of a state that survived for over 2,000 years in various forms
lol nice apt comparison you intellectually bankrupt jew
>>69339936
>They have the numbers
Who gives a shit if it was real or not, would have been better with a German victory rather than this refugee-cock-sucker agenda we are pushing now.
>>69339550
Delete this!!!!
read a book, faggots
>>69357542
>hall of cost
kek
Oh shit, you mean the Nazis wanted to put death camps outside of Germany and away from Western Europeans?
No Wai dats unbelievable
B-b-But m-m-muh no gaschambers.
We all know gas is the only way to kill people.
>>69340331
pic related is Einsatzgruppen uniform
If the Holocaust isn't real, it's weird how some random asshole has these pics just sitting around from the same camera as all of the other pics my grandfather took during the war.
Oooohhh yeah of course he must have been in on muh conspiracy!!!! Despite having literally no benifits for doing so and being an honest person.
Or maybe da joos (and Poles, and Russians, and Gypsies, and etc) came into my house and planted them... that's gotta be it.
>>69359350
Even without gas chambers and the 6 gorillion myth, it still goes under the general definition of genocide.
>>69339785
lol literally any able bodied man could kick the fucking door down easily.
>>69359350
Just because I know someone will nitpick I meant to say "cameras" didn't hit the "s".
Same shits as all the other pictures. (Aside for the captured German photos, which are pretty interesting)
According to him these were from a concentration camp, and I have no reason to doubt his honesty.
Just saying-- if it's this huge conspiracy hoax, why do I have this shit?
>>69359540
Seems like a pointless argument at that point, if you are accepting that genocide happened.
You straight up belive in the Holocaust according to that image.
>>69340230
either one could be the fake one though
>>69359350
>>69359756
You put a pic of what appears to be a heap of corpses and a pic of oven. Holocaust revisionists don't deny the existance of ovens and that people died on massive scale. To simplify it, they deny a) 6 gorillion number, b) gas chambers, c) intent to systenatically murder all Jews.
>>69360042
Good observation
>>69359984
>if you are accepting genocide happened
Where does it say that in the image?
Russians are still officially all about WWII propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeqsiR4HVCA
>>69360213
I feel like very few people legitimately belive Germany was able to or intended to murder "all jews".
As far as gas chambers-- I can't recall ever hearing this claim aside from in these types of threads, but okay fair enough.
As far as the exact numbers, this shit isn't really possible to know, especially 70+ years after the fact.
Anyway I was referring more so to those who straight up deny any genocide (concentration camps were like holiday camps, total fabrication, no persecution of Jews, Poles, Russians by the nazis, etc. That kind of stuff).
>>69360257
Killing people of an ethnic group through forced labor, starvation, etc is still genocide m8.
>>69360728
>As far as gas chambers-- I can't recall ever hearing this claim aside from in these types of threads
It's almost a focal point of Holocaust revisionism m8. For little what I've read/watched on the subject, all popular revisionists deny gas chambers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx9G4zmpKv0
>Anyway I was referring more so to those who straight up deny any genocide (concentration camps were like holiday camps, total fabrication, no persecution of Jews, Poles, Russians by the nazis, etc. That kind of stuff).
Yeah, that's straight up /pol/ bullshit.
>>69360877
>killing people through forced labor
Who actually believes this crap? If Germans are so efficient why didnt they just shoot em? Rounding up people into camps just to make them do subpar work until they die would be like throwing money in the toilet.The people in camps only started dying en masse near the end of the war with all the typhus and starvation. Hell, Anne Frank died of typhus, not a Nazi bullet or gas chamber or ovens.
Unless you think the Nazis nefariously released typhus into the camps lol
>>69361340
Kill people with guns-- spend money on ammo.
Kill people through forced labor-- get product needed for war.
Not a difficult concept.
>>69360877
You are absolutely right, it still falls under the definition of genocide.
But so does the nuclear destruction of Nagasaki/Hiroshima and the bombing of Dresden, yet no one was tried for these war crimes.
>...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
>(a) Killing members of the group;
>(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
>(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
>(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
>(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
>>69343252
I smell kike
>>69361705
Yeah because forced labour was free right? It's not like they had to waste money on building the camps, Feeding the prisoners and waste men guarding those camps right?
>>69362800
>Yeah because forced labour was free right? It's not like they had to waste money on building the camps, Feeding the prisoners and waste men guarding those camps right?
So they decided to build them high commodity living camps (your pic related) for... free? :^)
Or allow me be more direct: are you mentally deficient by any chance?
>>69339550
Serious question: what attributes do Holohaux believers share in common. I'll begin with a few
- at least 90 percent white
- at least 90 percent male
- feelings of being marginalized in some way (not enough career recognition, for instance)
- reception to other conspiracy theories (area 51, jet fuel can't melt steel beams, Elvis lives)
Any others to add to the list of attributes?
>>69363665
Aryan means noble, they are noble conquerors.
>>69363668
-they are human
-they breath air
-they eat
-they shit
-they are just like you.
I can't deny something that doesn't exist, "holocaust" doesn't exist, it's a made up word with a made up importance enforced through mass indoctrination, propaganda, and mass media.
>>69343184
>I am going to disregard all of your evidence and then proclaim that I won
Next time you are not invited, Italy.
>>69363665
Germans saw themselves as servants of the German race, they saw the German race as one of the highest civilization and nobility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv-OUN0nOio
>>69363970
What's the second word on the snek?
>>69363970
Let's just make a parallel. I think that the people who are drawn to the idea that "Shakespeare didn't write the works of Shakespeare" are a strange but interesting bunch. They include some unusually creative individuals, like Mark Twain or Derek Jacobi. A lot of outsiders too. And they're often skeptical of authority. I'm interested in building a picture of Holohauxers. Do you think they tend to especially dislike mainstream media outlets? If so, then why?
>>69364296
Holohoaxers don't exist, I am you.
>>69364254
Hoch means high. Don't know what the other half of the word means.
>>69364254
The Snek says Death to Lies.
>>69339550
>Russia
>map shows Poland conquered by Germany
Bonus Question: Where was located the training camp for the nuclear group of terrorists that took over Russian government facilities, ministries etc?
>>69364254
>>69364420
It's probably hochfinanz from what I can tell, even though it looks like hochfinooz. Germans have shitty fucking calligraphy in their works. Generally their lowercase s looks like an f and their capital letters look really fucking stupid when calligraphed.
>>69364386
So you think literally they don't share any attributes in common beyond being human? Would it be a loss of any kind to narrow this down somewhat and observe attributes in common?
To me, it seems obvious that they're almost all male -- that itself is pretty interesting. Almost all are somewhat educated too.
>>69364717
I see it now, thanks bro
>>69364519
I already understood that bit.
Because the Russians did the Jewish Holocaust in the late 40s and not Germans.
>>69364817
I am not different than you, I just don't see any evidence of 6 million deliberate murders.
>>69363668
>- at least 90 percent white
Most of them are probably Muslims
>>69365062
>them
there is no us and them, you are an American not a German citizen who had their citizenship revoked.
>>69365062
Could be something in that. I'm just looking at who is publicly visible as a Holocaust denier, especially who publishes on the subject or who attends conferences. Almost all are white males in that group.
>>69365006
You're assuming a lot to think you are the same as any anon, or that any anons are the same as any others.
>>69345202
nice flag
>>69365217
I am no different than any other "holocaust accepter", it isn't anything special, I work, am married, have kids etc.. I just have a different opinion than you towards war crimes in history.
Fucking Nazis
Latvia had a death/labour camp in which by Soviet estimations
>50 to 100 thousand people had lost their lives
Recently done research found the death toll at a staggering
>2 thousand people, mainly malnutrition and disease
Western faggots are completely unable to see Soviet Union as a threat equal and even greater than Nazi Germany because you were too busy giving them handouts.
>>69365694
Ad-hominids wont get you anywhere.
>>69365591
Would there be a problem if you accepted that there was an identifiable demographic pattern here? Most political affiliations have unrepresentative demographics: young people tend to be quite left wing; old people tend to be quite right wing; supporters of gay marriage tend to live in big cities, etc.
>>69365874
No, there is none, people have different opinions of history in all demographics, it's just some historical information is heavily propagandized and made illegal to question. :^)
Truth is apparent not enforced.
>>69339672
I don't see whats wrong with this one
>>69339550
Most jews in Poland
>>69366149
What do you make of the fact that very few women are interested in Holocaust denial? Is that just because of the no-women-on-the-internet issue?
>>69366149
>NO russia
Curious
>>69366149
Lets apply this law to something else, It's illegal to deny the 783,000 German deliberate holocaust.
The Blockade of Germany, or the Blockade of Europe, occurred from 1914 to 1919. It was a prolonged naval operation conducted by the Allied Powers during and after World War I[1] in an effort to restrict the maritime supply of goods to the Central Powers, which included Germany, Austria-Hungary and Turkey. It is considered one of the key elements in the eventual Allied victory in the war. The German Board of Public Health in December 1918 claimed that 763,000 German civilians died from starvation and disease caused by the blockade up until the end of December 1918.[
>>69366149
>The Samogotian Jew
Why is Lithuania such a worst Balt?
>>69366377
What do you make of the fact that very few women are not very interested in history?
>>69366377
Because it is the ultimate emotional argument, and women are emotional creatures.
>>69366877
If it was primarily an emotional argument, then wouldn't it be super popular among women, rather than the other way around.
>>69366707
It's true that more men than women are drawn to history as a field and that massively more men than women are drawn to military history (sometimes just because they love looking at pictures of guns and learning about technical stuff).
>>69345552
Okay here is one for you.
>an order to expel the jewery goes out
>they dont comply
>welp, they are illegal now. throw them in camps
>oh shit its a few cities worth? not enough space
>ok made some more camps until we can finish this war and get them the fuck out of our country
>oh shit disease and famine
>>69341743
>100 million human beings died in the wars
people die if there is no war too. during peace time the numbers are slightly lower maybe 70 million
>>69367066
It is an emotional information and thus they just accept it even if it's false, they feel it's the right thing to do.
>>69367298
During Brazilian peace time 60,000 Brazilians die each year to murder.
>>69359350
>people held in overcrowded camps
>some die
>shit how do we stop disease from spreading
>burn bodies?
>holy shit they cooked the jews alive! and had holocoasters the led people on a ride right into giant ovens! and they made them into soap!
are people finally waking up to the jew shills?
>>69340231
be that as it may, it is still claimed about 700.000 ppl were gassed in treblinka. then they cremated the bodies, using the female bodies as fuel for the cremation. then the bodies were buried and lit on fire again while under the dirt. then later when german nazi had to cover up this heinous crime against humanity they dug up all 700.000 and finished the cremation job and disposed of any evidence. (obviously none of this stupid stuff happened, as you can't use bodies for fuel for one).
seriously man. just look up testimonials yourself and listen to the nonsense they claim was happening. biggest red pill there is desu.
>>69367473
>niggers
>>69367473
Germany was under a war on 3 fronts while starving and blockaded, with the Brazilian crime rate in 7 years there would be 420,000 murders.
>>69359540
>implying the treatment of the Jews was unjust
>>69341743
There were gas chambers, kind of. There was a program where German doctors were euthanizing retards, crazies, and cripples. It really did use carbon monoxide 'gas chambers' (basically oxygen tents but with CO) but the scale was magnitudes lower than what is claimed for the holocaust, like in the tens of thousands and not in the tens of millions. If you look up Action T 4 you can see the elements of truth that were exaggerated into the great lie of the holocaust.
