How did v4 countries get developed so fast? I am watching a video from Hungary and can't believe my eyes.
>Luxury apartment blocks everywhere
>Brand new infrastructure
>Big cars
What is the secret?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2F1q2xizXU
>>69331406
delicate balance not being cucked but not being faggots
We were under german for at least 300 years
>>69331406
As far as I understand they did one thing we will never do and that's get rid of corruption and nepotism and leveling the business ground so everyone has a fair shot to make it.
>>69332090
> get rid of corruption and nepotism and leveling the business ground
LOL WHAT
>>69331406
I've no idea how Hungary even got poor in the first place
Leeching of that sweet EU money basically
>>69332090
i don't want to see level of corruption in your country
>>69331406
Getting billions of euros from the richer parts of the eu is the secret.
>>69332220
Then how the fuck did you do it.
Here very few people are holding all the string and I mean all of them,people are moving out in crazy numbers to be dishwashers in America,all there is left are pensioners and people that cant afford to move out.
>>69332090
>everyone has a fair shot to make it
EU shekels
>>69331406
All countries are german bitches. Germany is the biggest owner in Poland. But Czechs even describe themselves as Germans, they lack any dignity, identity and history this much
>>69332090
>Here very few people are holding all the string and I mean all of them
Nigga they are making new laws so just some party member can get rich. The corruption is fucking worse than ever
eu money is less than 2% of our GDP. Meanwhile some coutries like russia depends only on stuff like oil and gas which consists of like 40% of their GDP. Yes, meanwhile we dont have any of natural resources, so ask yourself what is the problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcV7VomSeRc
Poland strong too!
>>69332504
Tell me more about that.
At least You're not half muslim country like us & Geramny.
>>69332498
We are no germans first thing what we learn in school is that we are slavs
>>69332767
You're either an authoritarian corrupt shithole, or your country is full of immigrants. This is the future of Europe basically.
You can also have both, like in case of Italy or Greece. Of course our right basically elliminated the left so at least thats a good thing, however you need something to balance things out, as now the right is basically unchallanged and can do whatever it wants, basically building a quase-feudal system.
>>69332767
he's a leftist faggot. every politician is corrupt, we have a right wing government that steals too, but they give back a lot to the populace, create jobs, reduce taxes, make life easier, help small companies.
we have a food industry renessaince, we never had so many organic food producers, vitamin and drug companies, start ups, and so on.
they kicked out the IMF, fucked GMO, fucked NGO's, removed ukranian and russian maffia from hungarian nightlife, tourism is flourishing (11 million a fucking year)
current government does a lot, leftist butthurt idiots can't into economics
>>69332883
You're saying that but what are the evidence? How do they do it?
People here always say they prefer fascism... well...
>>69333082
This
>>69333082
Sounds like the opposite of corruption to me senpai
Here, have a pic of Princess Sofia
>>69331406
EU paid for everything.
Meanwhile western Europe pays more money cause the east doesnt. We also pay their debts and get ... Well basically nothing in return. Fucking Germans.
>>69333285
>Well basically nothing in return
GOOD GOY, I bet you even vote for Wilders you cuck. The fact that their economies are doing ok also helps our economies in western Europe. Who do you think is buying stuff from us?
Ask for Money from EU
Then Blame EU for everything how shit the system is
Then ask for more Money
And They still give us. Fucking Idiots
>>69333244
inbred/10
>>69333140
A lot of ways:
- stealing EU money via tenders, this costed EU taxpayers potentially billions all over the Eastern Euro countries. Most of these money goes directly to politicans and their friends. Many ways to do this via fake companies and offshore companies etc.
- government subsidies to friends companies. Another very popular thing. Also, when the government orders shit via tenders they have to pick a company, they'll pick their friends companies ofc
- creating new state owned companies, NGO's and funds which then you can transfer shit ton of tax money to. Lead by friends ofc, who can basically spend tax money without much interference
- giving private companies opportunity to be part of intra-governmental businesses. Company started by friends of the government, of course. For example Hungary has to buy natural gas from the Russians, but why not putting a middleman there if they can? So now you have a company which buys the gas from Russia and sells it to Hungary with a HUGE profit as even a 1% profit could mean billions here. The gas physically of course gets here the same way
There are shit ton of ways this government steals our money, and even if they lowered taxes on paper, VAT is still an all time and world wide record high (27%) for example, while minimum wage hasnt changed much.
Pretty easy question: join EU and Take all the money and rebuild Your country.
>>69333389
This lmao
>>69333285
Hold on for just a minute there pal
Our comsumption is at an all time high.
What do we consume? German products.
>nothing back
>>69333381
You mean stuff we import from somewhere else? Only Germany earns money, the Dutch earn money because muh harbour
>>69333285
EU steals our doctors ruining our healthcare, they're running ads in local newspapers for fucks sake. they steal our skilled workers.
also, multinational EU corporations are shovel money out of Hungary and ruining small businesses
we simply can't take out that much money to break even you western thief bastards
i dont know what you are talking about Ivan
>luxury apartments
the buildings you see in the video
a, built before ww2
b, built after ww2 during socialism
c, a few modern officebuildings
its budapest afterall, well above the avarage level of hungary
>infrastructure
the entire tramline is built by socalism, if you will
EU mony to update the stations
>big cars
im not seeing it
>>69333468
You wanna know?
That's the way it works in Sweden too. Even though it's not supposed too.
But You at least don't have the muslims
>>69333637
And take loans in german banks. Buy insurances in german companies. Watch german media.
>>69333818
>>69333637
>Germany
Only Germany profits in the west, not France, not the UK, not the Dutch.
In fact we get penalized when our economies do too well.
>>69333937
This is how it works everywhere, but you probably dont have an $1.5 minimum wage.
>>69332090
> Hungary
> get rid of corruption
Fuck no. Orban did it right with the refugee situation, but he is corrupt as fuck and that shit hitting the fan saved his ass big time.
>>69333244
Orbán built a statium next to his own house in bumfuck nowhere
and built a tramline to connect it to civilization
the poster is a fidesz child, daddy is shoveling taxpayers money into his own pockets
>>69332504
>The corruption is fucking worse than ever
Are you just too underage to remember what it was like between 1994-98, or 2002-2010, for that matter? Fidesz is a boring party full of greedy career politicians, but they're nowhere near commies when it comes to stealing. Ferkó literally gave away government property to his proxy companies.
Plus the current government really did crack down on corruption within the police and the army. Several former generals are behind bars now, and much of the old, uneducated leadership has been replaced with younger, competent people.
>>69331406
capitalism, you retard.
>>69333962
then what are you banks doing here Guus?
why dont you fuck the hell off with your companies if its not making profit
kill yourself uneducated neet
>>69331406
I've been to Krakow and its all old ugly buildings, bad roads (except of main roads) and generally depressing. What secret are you talking about?
>>69334020
Maybe it's good for that village to have connections. Development you know.
>>69333978
You probably do not have our level of prices then (1 ltr Milk = 1.5$)
>>69333962
>not France
-the entire hungarian public water supply was in french hands (la suez) current government recovered some of it tho
-Nestlé, Danone have factories in Hungary
>Not netherlands
we're flooded with dutch agricultural produce and dairy
>>69334033
you must be retarded, stay in egypt
t. military family
>>69331406
Gibs from the EU. The post Soviet states have received massive transfer payments from the EU to develop infrastructure (which admittedly feeds German Industry). Them bailing out now comes at a time when the EU is cucked to hell and back and when they would start having to pay for the infrastructure in other nations.
>>69334153
>1 ltr Milk = 1.5$
Muhammad what the fuck are you doing.
1l here costs 0.75$
That being said we are still in the stone age.
>>69331406
capitalism
>>69334153
I agree, every irrelevant small village should have a stadium like this. Cause you know, we are a football nation
>>69333468
this, also building top-shelf 10,000-seat football stadiums for literally 300 fans on multiple occasions (govment has some friends in the construction industry, if you know what i mean)
>>6933140
What part of that video looked impressive?
>>69334203
But having factories in Hungary boosts your economy not the French one
>>69334020
thats pocket money you butthurt libtard.
I'm not a Fidesz child I'm a realist. countryi is getting into shape because besides the thiefs many honest people are in the government that want to better the country.
I can't say the same of the socialist left, they solely consist of politicians who hate this place and are under the direct command of western libtards, US, Merkel and Brussels. they will ruin this country with no survivors.
I prefer the thief who does good for the country over the thief who does good for foreign powers
>>69332275
it's called communism... it's a very dangerous disease.
>>69334033
Are you hungarian?
>>69334153
your shit is cheap, milk in the netherlands costs the same or even less than here, ipads in germany cost less than here
>What is the secret?
don't succumb to liberal bullshit
don't let a butthurt leader get in the way of economic prospects
>>69332311
well, that's bullshit :D We get very good amount of it, but nearly 2,5 million Euro not been paid because we not changed our procurement legislation, however we lost millions because the russian embargo. Our international sale of goods wrecked to the eastern direction was wrecked. Consider these...
>>69334451
barely. We used to have many little dairy factories before Danone came in and ran them out of business.
all good they do is giving jobs for a few hundred people. the tremendous profit they make leaves the country, and they have very good tactics to barely pay any taxes.
>>69332652
I like the fact there are no niggers or asians in this video. This is great. Cannot believe my eyes.
If this was Australia, there would be lines of slants lined up at the tram station.
>>69334153
Nigga everything is expensive here.
I've bought my iPhone 6s for 800$.
Then again I don't complain because I'm not in the middle class but you get the idea.
Also fidesz is bad and fuck them, but we have only shittier options
>>69333946
>Watch german media.
Maybe you.
Fuck German products and fuck German media.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.pola_app
App to recognize Polish products, made in Poland and with Polish capital.
I'm not buying German products until they fuck off from our Government.
>>69331406
>How did v4 countries get developed so fast?
They are pretty much entirely white.
>>69331406
>>69334588
Ignorant shits.
Thinking anything else than FREE EU MONEY LMAO caused this.
Uneducated bums.
>tfw we were the highest developing economy pre-2008 crash
>>69334846
Your mother is "free", money isn't.
>>69334846
like the other anon said, in Poland that's only 2% of GPD.
>>69331406
Look at last 25 years development in China and then look at V4 again.
>>69334846
read the thread you illiterate windmill fucker
>>69334494
i hate liberalism
there are no socialist left anymore, you can keep your propaganda to your friends
i dont know what good they are doing for the country apart from building shit nobody uses
they did the only reasonable thing with the immigrants, so you dont get a bonus for that
>i prefer a thief
and thats how i know you are a gypsy
>>69334020
underage libtard pretty sure you were in the nursery school in the Gyurcsany ERA
that was the REAL madness and the heaven of corruption
>>69334730
>hates asian immigrants
>makes 30$ an hour as a construction worker due to chinese money
>>69334752
>everything is expensive
>I've bought my iPhone 6s
if this is your argument - fuck off. Expensive may be food, flats, cloth but not fucking iPhone.
>shittier options
you should not care of what West says about you , i hope you know that bro
>>69333389
are you like completely blind?!
>>69335100
im 32
now go lick gypsy bums
To all the polak rightwinger morons in this thread:
You can't deny this country developed nicely over the past 16 years, and especially since 2004.
Now watch it go down the absolute shitter. If you're still supporting nationalist cunts in three years then you have a two digit IQ, no way around it.
Your only argument is "burr gurmene takes rapfugees" yeah they do and they still are 20x richer than you'll ever be. And these refugees aren't even committing much crime.
>>69334917
8.5 billion can build a lot of shit
Thanks to our tax money
>>69335122
Like it or not polakbro, these devices are part of our everyday life and it matters a lot.
I have to go to a meeting now I hope the thread will still be up when I come back
>tfw 5/10 of the time I get payed to shitpost on 4chan
>Luxury apartment blocks everywhere
>Brand new infrastructure
>Big cars
Sigh, poorfag detected.
>>69335079
and this is where I stop the debate with you. you know nothing, you're just a foaming libtard drone with reading comprehension
>>69331406
EU's gibsmedat
>>69335214
did you realize everyone called you libtard shit in this thread?
>ID Lsz4i4YC
this way not everyone else is retard, just you
if no one shares ur view then do the math
>>69335360
>our every day life
i have a 10y old phone buddy
>>69335217
>MUH CRIME
Oh my god are you fucking blind? fuck off to London so you can circlejerk with your local libtard union, don't ruin Poland please you cancerous cunt
>>69335217
>And these refugees aren't even committing much crime.
sandnigger detected
>>69335372
>libtard libtard
>specificly say i am not
i dont give a shit, memeposting shitstain
you live on your daddies mony and try to lecture me about life
off yourself
for Czech Republic in the last few years at least big impact has been
>no euro (least affected by euro crisis of all countries)
>medium-low wages attract a lot of foreign business to set up offices
I'm not Czech myself but at least those come to mind. Came here exactly for good work opportunities.
>>69333999
This is beyond disappointing to say the least. If what you say is true: the great hope of right Europeans who care about their nation to oppose the corrupt oligarchy of Brussels and Berlin is also just another corrupt as hell politician.
>>69335217
i was agreeing with pretty much every line of your post, i also firmly believe poland got so much better because of EU funds, but then you blew it up with llast part. Arent commiting much crime? Are you fucking serious? I have cousin in Hamburg, he says skirmishes inbetween them and them and police are everydays sight
>>69335217
> Opieramy się na woli milionów. Przekuwamy ją w program realizowany wysiłkiem klasy robotniczej, chłopów i inteligentów polskich. Dzięki temu mogliśmy pójść naprzód i osiągnąć sukces, który przysporzył nam szacunku i uznania w świecie. W krótkim czasie Polska stała się silniejsza, a Polakom zaczęło żyć się lepiej, i jest to fakt niepodważalny, którego nie kwestionuje nikt, nawet nasi wrogowie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIf2GgA1rGc
>>69331406
Leech of EU, work abroad and send money home. All east europe has done it.
>>69335360
>these devices are part of our everyday life and it matters a lot.
i have cell phone that costs 25 euro. I have got also new laptop for 250 euro. Believe me - you dont NEED iphone.
regarding the EU funds chaps
>czech rep receives on average 114 billion czechels (1 euro = 25 czechels)
>czechs contribute 40 billion to the EU budget
>117 - 40 = 77
>czech national budget is roughly 1.1 billion
>77/1100 = 0,07%
EU funds represent roughly 0,07% of our national budget, so let's tone it down a bit chaps.
>>69331406
Fuck Romania,Hungary here I come!
>>69335730
77/1100 = 0.07 = 0.07 * 100 = 7%
>>69335618
There's no such thing as innocent politician. every last one of them steals tons of money, even in the west. what matters is what they to with their remaining time.
>>69335791
We are full! You know horses, archers and sheeeiiiit...so stay at home!
Is it better to be free and poor or enslaved and poor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfjGJrtc0Lc
>>69335791
you should stay. Make Romania Great Again. don't leave it to the gipsies anon
>>69335847
yeah, my bad. anyway our highways are the most expensive in all of EU, so most of the money gets lost anyway.
>>69335935
He's a szekel. No Romanian would move to your country
Germany and France subsidies
>>69332883
>You're either an authoritarian corrupt shithole, or your country is full of immigrants.
Implying you can't have both.
t. Germoney
>>69336034
our vignettes cost more, excellent shekles from tourist going to croatia
>>69336061
Let's stop hungaro-roma shitposting for a thread
>>69336061
this sounds good but the sad reality the number of romanian who come here to work as cleaner or construction worker, is goddamn high
Through the power of capitalism.
>>69336225
the corruption and authoritarianism is usually because a minority ethnic group is trying to hold on to absolute power
>tfw germony is now minority white
the romans never crossed the river. yet somehow you lost to a bunch of homeless niggers?
>>69331406
>Luxury apartment blocks everywhere
Mostly vacant and empty because nobody can afford them.
>Brand new infrastructure
That happens to be completely useless because it breaks down daily or just generally shit. But at least someone grew rich from it.
>Big cars
Bought from loans. Nuff' said.
Also - pic related - shit gets much worse the further you go from Budapest.
>>69331406
The only success of the EU in the last 15 years. They showered their govs in money and most of them were smart enough to use at least some of it to develop the country.
>>69331406
EU money !
Fuck off slavish subhumans
>>69336473
T. Kolompár Rikárdó Von Gypsy
They aren't vacant
Partly true
Wut
In 2040 V4 will look like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLSouMKAcdc
When Western Europe gonna be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHelulhKe08
>>69336473
nice post. now collect your shekels from DK
>>69336565
take your shit and leave
it is you holding us not us you
should not have let us in in the first place
>>69336621
>>69336565
>EU money !
Fuck off slavish subhumans
Make it rain !
>>69334494
you are absolutely right
>>69336565
this is a muslim-free thread, please go away we don't like your kind around here
>>69335307
rapefugees of 2015 alone cost at least 50 billion, 700 billion to a trillion in the long run. when it comes to state affairs and GDP 8,5 billion isn't that much.
>>69333999
>>69332504
>>69332220
Corruption =/= Bad
''Corruption'' is another word for ''affirming the position of power of yourself and those close to you'', the reasons may be numerous, including simply and pure economic incentive, or to barricade yourself against coup attempts.
>>69336702
>>69336759
>>69336565
You slavish subhumans are only able to suck foreign cocks !
Tell me when only once your cou try made history : answer : never !
Unlike UK, DK, France, Russia
Keep sucking to get money
>>69336814
8.5 bil gets you a lot more in Poland than in Germany
>>69336968
so as a superior rapefugee welcoming frenchie what have you accomplished in life besides being a cunt?
>>69336968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)
I do not care about "history". I care about my country being a literal colony. And constant lies in the mainstream. And the "worried" foreign countries supporting their lies.
>>69335217
Our wealth, in general, comes from measurements undertaken during and after the marshall plan. Performed by a conservative government that deserved the name. Since 25 years, with the exception of Zeitarbeit, every political measure was utter trash for the economy.
1 trillion cost for the turks and arabs in the long run
another possible trillion in the long run for the entire retarded "renewable" energy nonsense
and another 700 billion to a trillion for the rapefugees of 2015
There are also many long term negative effects on the values, work ethics and social fabric in general. But you'd need to write a book about that to fully describe the decline.
But compared to all of that socialist, greentard bs, the Greek debts are nothing.
>They're still paying though!
>>69336968
It's not our fault that you're illiterate.
I'm not your teacher. also, I hate talking to borderline retarded people who don't even know how to use an exclamation mark.
There's no space before it you useless muslim scum.
only a very dumb person writes like that.
>>69336968
Nice meme
>>69337096
I don't live in a slut country that can't grow without foreign money to start with
>>69336968
>Tell me when only once your country made history : never !
>Unlike DK
Please tell me the timeframe where Poland was irrelevant but Denmark was not
>>69337146
>>69336702
A pole that gets it..
My eyes... They're watery...
>>69337199
Not living in a slot country is a definitely thing you can be proud of as you obviously managed it by hard work
>>69337158
do you think there will be an economic downfall in Germony in the foreseeable future?
>>69337199
I assume that you are not original Frenchmen, but some kind of sand human who migrated to France to obtain foreign aid.
>France
>Not a slut country
Not to be offensive, but french women have reputation of general sluttiness
>>69336463
Doens't look like like homeless niggers to me, mate.
>>69337357
Not while EU lasts.
EU saved them many times already, as long as it stands they will not budge.
>>69337278
>>69337278
sorry for "stealing" your cheap, shitty, low end job
sorry for buying your overpriced, low quality shit
sorry for buying your 12 years old car
sorry that a qt slavic girl that moved to your cuntry have only 3 holes you can fuck
>>69337357
We have 15 years to turn this around, or the white genocide agenda will become physically unstoppable. So either an economic collapse happens within 15 years followed by civil war (which we MUST win), or coup de'etats in white nations.
>>69331406
When they joined EU they took money from westerners. Meanwhile Croatia that has been richer even during the war is so incopetent to take money from westerners. Only reason we were better in the first place is because Titoism is better than Stalinism
>>69336778
Do the right thing! Put a 'slim in the bin!
>>69337505
>sorry for "stealing" your cheap, shitty, low end job
i wouldn't feel as bad if it was poles stealing them, unfortunately the people stealing jobs i should've been working in my youth are arabs and africans, and half their pay is subsidized by the tax payers anyways.
>>69337399
Say the man that can't portray his roots because he lives in a country that got gang raped and ravagzd big time in history by everyone in europe
>>69336608
>T. Kolompár Rikárdó Von Gypsy
I can't be (and, for that regard, nobody in this thread can be) a gypsy because gypsies don't speak English. Doh.
>>69336670
If I had been a DK slave then I would have refuted OP's bullshit a little harsher, don't you think?
>>69336919
I think, if I found a company any time soon, I will make you our PR manager.
>>69337499
good point.
>before EU
1 Deutsche Mark = 0.5 EURO
>under EU
1 DM = 1 EURO
>>69337199
we get virtually nothing, we were better off before we joined your muslim union
>>69337582
> you come there
> they hire you because they can pay you half of the wage
> you "steal" job
>>69337158
Don't forget that the infrastructure is not renewed, the social, educational and healthcare systems aren't reformed and still pretend that we are in the 80s and Schröders Agenda 2010 may have saved some jobs but crushed the lower middle class with no survivors.
>>69337357
No, economy will run well for a long time, but standard of living for the average worker will fall. It already is and no politicians even addresses it.
They know what they have to do if they want to go back to having bread lines.
>>69337597
Just end it man
>>69337657
>economy will run well for a long time, but standard of living for the average worker will fall.
This is why the anti-whites can argue from an economic standpoint when trying to legitimize non-white invasion of Europe.. ''But it helps the economy!'', bullshit, they NEVER adress the fact that the same/more wealth is distributed over a much bigger population, and that wealth is taken from native whites and given to non-whites.
>>69333082
Sounds like your settling desu
>>69337606
open your eyes, this country is starting to get it's shit together. Now is not the time to bitch about it. only leftist bitch about it, normal people are optimistic despite the corruption. there is light at the end of the tunnel, just look at the past 20 shitty years we now have perspective
>>69337655
am i understanding you correctly: you see absolutely no moral issues with africans and arabs flooding sweden and taking jobs from native swedes because capitalist scum can get away with paying half the wage because the other half is subsidized by tax payers?
what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>69335935
>>69336031
Fuck both of yous, and another thing :I'm coming in dry!!YOU CAN'T STOP THE LOVE TRAIN fellow huns!
>>69337625
That sounds good. Do you want a throwaway email adress you can contact me with?
>>69337771
Yes, alo the rapefugees will never organize themselves in unions or works council. It just shows how completely the left failed in the last decades, they don't even protect their own clientele but only care about muh feelings.
>>69331406
v4 ball help us.
>>69337838
are those capitalists Swedish? or "European"
Poles work for simple people
>>69337956
does it matter who they are?
what are you even talking about? i'm not following anything right now.
>>69337916
>It just shows how completely the left failed in the last decades, they don't even protect their own clientele
The trouble is that this doesn't matter, the 80 IQ subhumans will continue voting for them. Which is why democracy is the worst system.
>>69337947
Lets just unite Hungary with Romania, doing it proper anon.
>>69337357
Downfall is unlikely. Still we are among the highest to produce scientific papers, we dominate classical industry and export, and there is indeed still some advancement and innovation in fields like robotics/bionics and AI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vT-oidWyXE
But is undoubtedly the case that we have been in decline for several decades. The main problem is that this change takes place slowly, like the changing of seasons. But inevetably summer turn into fall and then...fall into winter. But if your people finally wake up in winter, then it's already too late.
It's certain though that the USA has passed us in the fields of new technology - like bio-technology and the internet. Which is not lastly the fault of a general lack of venture capital in the German economy. But it has another reason: lowered education standards and shit tier schools due to 68er ideology and shitskins.
>>69337856
lol romanians might be butthurt but they alwasy make me laugh, even when spitting on hungarians.
okay, you can come but don't tell anyone at home how SUPERPOWERY it is in here
>>69334901
My sides
>>69337597
Oh little toad, I can portray roots of my family up to year 1700 because we have this thing called archives, you could do that too if your african ancestors ever invented them.
>gang raped and ravagzd by everyone
kekus maximus. Your pathetic name calling is no match for my awesome logic and truth. France in recent years is hellhole, at least bigger cities. You have riots every year, your country no longer consists of mostly french nationality, and the best thing is you are proud of this.
You are 3rd on the cuck competitions, beaten only by German Caliphate and Sweden
No offense to anybody except you, because you are either uneducated faggot, or got brainwashed by media.
>>69331406
V4 has become so based recently. Fuck the Muslims.
>>69338045
Don't worry, Croatia and the soon to be independent Vojvodina and Transylvania will join the V4 soon
>>69332504
>>69333999
Same here. New government is doing nothing about it. And nepotism is stronger than ever tbqh.
Also they promised to reduce taxes but apparently they won't do that.
>>69338252
Croats in V4?
AWESOME
Their vidya is superb
Transylvania? Slavic vampire supersoldiers when?
But seriously, what cool stuff are they bringing to the table?
>>69337657
Imagine if we our government had created a program to help german families get kids instead of this fucking rapefugee nonsense. Let's say 10,000€ for the first child. Asuming we get the same amount of extra children as we have new borns in germany, that'd be 700,000*10,000 = 7 billion. 7 fucking billion! To double the birthrate and setting us well over the replacement level! That's close to a tenth of the cost for the rapefugees of 2015.
Fuck this government! They have money for everyone and everything but German families and their well being.
>>69334384
>actually using 444
The madman.
>>69338123
As soon as all boomers retire, the ''downfall'' will start to become clear. The upcoming generation of germans are incompetent anti-white retards who've grown up soft and don't know hardship, and are not as intelligent as their ancestors (even if boomers are the evil gneeration), they'll fail to ''uphold'' german society, as the boomer generation ''did.''
>>69332311
>>69332337
>>69332465
Budapest doesn't get any EU money though, since it's not a poor region...
>>69338461
i hope slovenia too. beatiful ppl and country.
>>69331555
This.
The Austro-Hungarian empire said about us "Czechs are very industrious, extremely so, but they need leadership." We've been slowed down by communists and now we're getting up to speed again. So that's that.
>Big Cars
I saw more Renault Twingos than threads on /o/
You must not have decent cars in Russia huh comrade?
>>69332090
On phone so I can't czeck your nationality, but are you retarded? We learned corruption from the commies, we're tunnelling left and right! Under Germans this was curbed.
>>69338461
>But seriously, what cool stuff are they bringing to the table?
Historical borders and more Hungarians, obviously :^)
>>69338123
so Germany might have hit economic peak. interdasting...
>>69338252
Why not the whole Romania?!
Why go shy with just Transylvania?
Shy boi!
>>69338631
nem igaz
>1-es villamos
>belvárosi felújítások
>turisztikai fejlesztések
mind EU-s pénz
>>69338719
Twingo is cute litte fucker
>>69333082
Nigga what? Right wing government? Lowering taxes? Funding anything that is not theirs? Jesus
>>69333818
>EU steals
>EU corporations
There's no 'us' vs. 'evil EU'. You talk about the EU like it's some country. It's not.
>>69334033
Lol what. I suggest you look up Mészáros&Mészáros, MNB & postatörvény, rendeleti költségvetés, just to name a few things...
>>69338766
More Hungarians, more fun
Too bad Poland cannot into historical borders
>>69338842
You are not cool enough
>>69338503
10k won't change the issues, people don't have children because they want to much. And as both spouses want especially a career, they post-pone it until it is too late and they have at most one and/or need artificial fertilization. Also if you have children you have refrain from parties and have less vacations. With 28 year olds behaving like 18 year olds they rather don't take the 10k and pretend to be teenagers for another 5 years.
People will have more children if you make them realize that you can't have your own company, your own happy family, be fit, go to vacations four times a year, go to space and be the best in your hobby with 30. But it would take years to reeducate the spoiled brats to even consider some self-denial.
>>69333082
lmao
do you live in Felcsút by any chance? :^)
>>69338503
that is exactly what our government is doing. This january they started handing out funds for families who agree to have 3 children in the upcoming 10 years. they get around 66.000 euros which is a lot of money. around here. the good part is, that you have to have a job, so fucking gipsies can't benefit from it. that's how you solve the problems, not with rapejihadees. well, it's a start I guess.
>>69335559
Update this for Belgium
I wanna see how long this image can get by 2017
>>69338838
Yes, I think this is the case. UNLESS the AfD and CSU found the government and return to a good mix of ethnic replacement birthrates, supporting the core family and middle class as the building block of society and a very selective immigration program. And eradicate the high corruption level which doesn't just boil down to thievery, but a proxy-communist/socialist industry of journalism, public television and media, NGOs, academia and state funded civil organisations and art nobody watches - theatres are usually cancer cells of gommunist brain washing.
>>69338969
Nobody asked you anything Poland you Slavic UK toilet washing scum!
>>69338899
Persze hogy nem mind igaz de gondolják csak a buzi románok és szlovákok hogy nekünk milyen fasza minden
Pszt :^)
>>69332652
>warsaw
>>69338920
Hey girl, are you cute? ;^)
>>69339076
Piss off, gypsy
Don't you have some bootleg purses to sell?
>>69338920
>Twingo is cute litte fucker
Heretic!
>>69334707
Procurement legislation was changed last year, just saying... The money is being hold back because the tenders for specific projects were a disaster.
And Russian market wasnt all that important as you're trying to paint it.
>>69339122
No, I have your mom's cunt to sell after I'm done with it!
>>69339076
Romania, you are dirtiest country I've ever seen, desu never been in India, but I'm pretty sure you are 2nd place in shit competitions
And if you want into V4, we are mostly Slavic here, fuck off and die, so Hungarians can get their rightful clay and more
>>69336242
Thats why i went off the highway last year and through Ptuj :3 beutiful city
>>69334730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmE9_ZAK6YA
>>69338995
You have a point: I read a poll in which the primary reasons were basically MUH EGO. Not having the right partner and/or being infertile/sick amounted to 25% of the people at most.
It's the selfishness of Germans that will get them replaced by Machmud and Jamal. But they still give their votes for that. And I am not surprised, if they live on the principle of "After me the Noachian deluge".
Germoney: a good mix of brainwashing and egotism.
>>69339189
Just shut up while Hungary and and us built luxury condos all over Romania!
>>69339247
Turkish ''guest'' workers to Poland, when?
>>69339172
Yeah okay, Dr. Kebabo
>>69338719
Twingo is master race, friend
20 years old, still looking cool
>>69338953
>lowering taxes
what is SZJA csökkentés?
what is disznóhús ÁFA csökkentés?
what is zöldség és tej áfacsökkentés? (upcoming)
bürökráciacsökkentés? that is also a form of tax decrease
>lol
there is an entire site dedicated to the corruption of the left
korrupedia.hu
you might have forgotten about the Nokiás doboz incident or the systamic theft of BKV
it's hard to decide who stole more, or is it?
>>69338842
You already ruined Transylvania to death, nobody wants your Wallachian shitters
>>69339032
And there is another reason for me to respect Orbán.
I don't know how bad the corruption really is, but if he does measures like this he DOES care about the cultural heritage, traditions and even ethnicity of your people. And that is something the whole elite of Europe and Germany would never do.
>>69339354
Implying all Romanians all like that?
>>69339392
Take it all, GOD DAMN YOU!!
>>69339340
Probably some leftist faggot from Warsaw, nothing to see there. We hate Turkroaches and have mild distrust towards Russia, and everyone else.
Except Hungary, we love those guys
>>69339314
Why the fuck would they build something for you gypsies? Build your stuff yourselves
>>69339340
neva. we take only slavs
>>69339433
>Implying all Romanians all like that
You are.
>>69339475
Further down there was some swedish guy with EU flag as profile picture saying how ''they'' are ''rebuilding Poland after the destruction of communism'', I guess the irony of the EU being the new Soviet Union was lost on the guy.
>>69331406
So apparently we are on our way to hopefully join V5
but what do we get from joining besides fences to block migrants?
what do you guys do over there?
>>69339538
Wrong!
>>69339475
Just up! :(
>>69338969
Huge V4 -> Intermarium -> Historical Polish borders
> everything goes better than expected :^)
>>69339475
we love you too Polan
>>69339625
>>69339076
>>69339314
You are talking to ukrainian immigrant in Poland
>>69339628
You better include us in there boi!
I mean it this time! :|
>>69339752
Ukraine you owe us some clay son!
Get your anus ready!
>what is the secret
pic related
>>69339753
sure but you need to deport gypsies to India first then you are free to join :)
>>69335791
romania has done some very impressive anti-corruption stuff lately, I wish we had something comparable
>>69339587
Tease the EU and fuck around with Merkel.
>>69339628
Dream on my bro. We are cursed as nation, moment we become powerful international shitstorm bully the fuck out of us.
>>69339753
Stop calling us bois, stop with emoticons, if you want to be relevant and wanted, you better start behaving. Noone is gonna give you stuff for free, or free passes to anything, you must earn it.
>Respect is not given but earned
>>69339379
>SZJA
>disznó
Lol. Do you also forget about the dozens of other sectoral taxes that ultimately you pay? And you're bringing up ÁFA? Really? Lower tax on pork won't change anything while almost everything else is 27%, which was done by Fidesz.
And no, I didn't forget about the Nokiás doboz, and I don't understand why fideszfans always bring up the fucking lefties implying I'm praising them or something. But today they steal tons more than what fits in Nokia boxes, you must be selective in your ignorance if you think it's okay when Andy gets his casinos and TV and Rogán's neighbor gets all the billboard campaigns etc
>>69339427
I'm not bigoted towards Orban, but I'm realist.
politics it a dirty game. He lost an election and was BTFO for 8 years. He had to gather support financially and loyality. once he got back to the throne, he simply must hand out money to his former supporters, close family and friends. that's how it works everywhere. it can be considered corruption, but you can't become president without promising stuff to your supporters.
the most critisism Orban gets is because of his handouts to supporters, family, relatives and close friends. I just can't imagine anyone getting into power without their support, you need to compensate them upon succeeded election
anyway, I don't want whitewash him, I just try to find some logic behind all the corruption
>>69339934
fair enough
>>69339858
Fuck it :Poland should run any eugenics program on the gypsies it wants!(specifically gypsies, the term shouldn't be taken loosely )
That good enough for you?!
>>69339957
We can contribute with stuff.
>>69340089
You didn't include Romania.
Don't you want some Black Sea access?
Instead of mayor infighting while the companies rotted away, they actually did stuff that advanced their countries.
It's really remarkable. Before the collapse of communism, and even till the 00' they were arguably way worse than us (that is Slovenia), but while our politicians did nothing (the only way of getting money was selling shit that was left over from Yugoslavia) they actually invested in development and shit. We used to make fun of Czechs and Slovaks that came here on holidays... now it seems that we are the fools.
Based Slav brothers (and Hungarians).
Poland is in constant development since 1945.
We rebuilded from literal RUINS. Before EU we were also making progress.
BTW those "eu gibs" are very profitable for western banks. Euro money always covers only 50% of investments. The other 50% are usually borrowed. So many local authorities are neck deep in DEBT.
>>69339891
Well, it's be a good start if we had a prosecution independent of Fidesz
>>69340089
We're getting closer...
>>69340100
We cannot do eugenics because human rights
What stuff you can contribute, except Black Sea access? We already got Baltic and Adriatic, Black Sea is too close to shitskins.
>>69340194
>mfw chief prosecutor's wife gets to be a director at the national bank
>government says there is no conflict of interest :^)))
>mfw chief prosecutor is totally impartial and not a cuck for sure
>>69340347
ayy
>>69340163
isnt romania already in that balkan group?
>>69339963
Mate, I'm not a Fidesz-troll, I just fucking love this country. Fidesz it the best option we have. Jobbik is trash, they are literally retarded. The left is a death senteance.
Every day I wake up and I try to find positive things that Orban is doing. that's all I have. And I want them to remain in power, they can become better, but the left will just become worse, there's no hope.
Just recently they announced to build a giant corn factory near Szolnok, that is a very needed investment since we have a lot of corn, but no processing facilities. the factory will sell GMO free corn product to the West. I just fucking proud of such things.
>Andy Vajna
Yes I hate that smug cunt, but let's just try to find positive thing about him. well, he brings Hollywood to Hungary. we never had so many hollywood productions filmed in Hungary since that cunt moved here. Tom Hanks and Bruce Willis are running around in Budapest, no one even notices the stars here they're so many.
He needed to get compensated for all the tax billions he brought to Hungary with his connections. He has phone numbers from all the Hollywood big shots and knows everyone.
We profit from him. Even I would have given him the casino rights and even more.
>Rogán Antal
I don't know what this guy is good for.. h-he must be good at something, r-right?
>>69340347
good boy, no one messes with us
>>69340394
Black sea gets you cheap eastern resources.
You can do whatever program you want, how about that?!
>>69340394
Why are still bullying Romania, fuck off
>>69339587
we can vote down germany. they had 90 seats in eu parliment v4 already have 112. united we win.
>>69340549
>Just recently they announced to build a giant corn factory near Szolnok, that is a very needed investment since we have a lot of corn, but no processing facilities. the factory will sell GMO free corn product to the West. I just fucking proud of such things.
Things that never happen in Sweden...
We don't have jobs, no nothing, and yet the government won't do this despite there beings tons of natural resources, all few available jobs are given to africans and arabs, on top of all the welfare they already get.
>>69332220
>Leeching of that sweet EU money basically
Not leeching. We are getting money we were supposed to get as war reperations long time ago. But because under Soviet rule Stalin refused to take any "capitalist" money trying to be voice for Poland. Germany didn't pay war reperations at all. And whenever topic is brought they say its not actaul anymore. Marshal's Plan also didn't give single cent to Poland. So no we are not leeching. We are grabbing for the rightous money that were stolen from us to rebuild what was damaged and taken away during WW2 period from us. In fact we didn't even get 1/4 what should be given to us. So keep on taking germoney :)
>>69340549
>giant corn factory near Szolnok
Check the owner and investor.Those things matter.
>>69340772
are you serious? Sweden has not enough processing plants?
there's this huge landmass and you're not using it. That just proves the radical left has no idea about economics.
>>69341007
There's literally zero industry in this country. There are no ''traditional'' jobs left. No money enters the country, only money through foreign investment.
>>69340827
It's just a little EU, I think 70% of it is hungarian investment (government and private)
btw noone talk about but orban biggest achivment he realize leftis politicans are gone. they dont have anserws the economic migrant crisis. soon hollande and merkel gone and he start building his alliance with right wing politicans. u can check economic growth where left politicans rule (hungary,poland..) around 3% where the left they struggle and cant catch up they just throw billions of dollar to eu banks and thats all.
>>69340694
what are the conditions to join though?
from what i've heard we are the first to attempt joining since the group was formed
>>69341042
Do swedes want to work in traditional jobs? I imagine tha average swedish youth to want to become IT and PR consultants or other shit.
people here still want the traditional jobs, but the education didn't react to it yet. we have similar problems
>>69338969
fuck historical borders, we cannot get shit done in the current ones
And to all of you guys saying EE leeches off EU funds - there are EU funds, from which all EU countries benefit. Biggest of them is the agricultural subsidies, CAP, from which western EU countries benefit far bigger than EE ones.
>>69341327
>what are the conditions to join though?
stay calm and drink your local brew
