How important is sex in a husband and wife relationship?
A friend of mine is married to a girl who he met when she was 19. She was a virgin and after almost a year they finally fucked. Anyways they got married some years later and he's now telling me how bad she is at sex. I was quite surprised because she is a full on 10/10 with a nice ass and boobs. They both love each other but he seems pretty wiped out over it. They got in a fight after he brought it up and she obviously didn't take it well (so he's staying at my place for a few days).
Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex? Or is her personality more important? Or would you be unfaithful and a get a mistress to fulfill your needs?
I have sex with my wife everyday. Women don't fuck when they are mad at you. It's about as simple as that. Your friend is either an asshole or his dick doesn't work right anymore.
I'm 33, I still fuck like a 14 yr old. Does he smoke?
Men: not even once
>>69319507
Honest communication goes a long way if you have the right partner. Otherwise, show your marketability to other women and once your wife/girlfriend feels competition creeping in she'll be hopping on your dick like it was made of money, handbags or stupid emoji.
>>69319507
>19 yo virgin
>top tier looks
>complain about bad sex
Did your idiot friend never think about
"oh maybe I could teach her a few things?"
I remember over a decade ago when I got my first girlfriend in highschool we were both virgins and I was pretty positive both of us sucked at sex, but as time went on it got better and better.
The husband sounds like a cuck, how hard can it be to give instructions? They are married, they're supposed to cover each others' weaknesses.
its more likely than you think, op.
i wouldn't break up with her, but i'd get her to learn what's up.
>>69319507
through communication both partners can guide each other to get each other off.
I mean, if he wants to be lazy, he can point the finger and dissolve the marriage.
Communication is the key and how stuff is framed when you say it, to not be a dick.
>>69319679
this guy is a retard, don't listen to him.
>>69319507
>Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex?
What? No, if your woman is bad at sex it is your fault for not guiding her. How can a woman know?
>>69319632
No he doesn't smoke
>>69319711
I suggested to him to try and teach her new techniques but he says shes basically worthless. I think he's over exaggerating the situation though, she seems like she'd be pretty hyper in bed given her personality
>>69319791
This guy is a leafposter, don't listen to him.
>>69319507
I fuck my wife everyday she is isn't bleeding. Everyday. It is a major part of pair-bonding. Intimacy reflects trust, and strengthens it. We have some of our best communication after sex. My brain has been reprogrammed by ten years of marriage - so that my wife has become my ideal sexual turn-on. It is hard to explain to someone that hasn't experienced that of course.
Can you have a good marriage without sex? Sure. Anything is possible. I cannot.
>>69319507
if you "friend" has been having sex for more than a year with this woman but hasn't been able to coach her into being good or at least satisfactory at sex, then the only logical conclusions are:
1. he's fucking garbage at sex himself
2. they do it once a month for 10 mins
3. he's a massive omega that can't communicate for shit and lucked out on a 10/10
>>69319632
>Marriage
I'm sure that will end well
>>69319869
Then he is an asshole. Like the other gentlemen said, you teach your woman.
I'm guessing your friend is a bit on the autistic side. Tell him to write her a love letter and get her some flowers. You have to romance her again.
>>69319869
>shes basically worthless
Sounds like your friend is one of the 60% who get divorced and potentially die grumpy and alone after multiple marriages.
Empty vows I guess.
>>69319507
Sex is a slice of the pie. Anyone who pretends otherwise is either lying or asexual.
That said, it's up to both people to explore their sexuality and discover what they like.
It's just as much his fault for not teaching her what he likes as it is hers for not being good.
>>69319507
Beign able to talk about things like this is how you make a marriage (or any relationship) work.
Sex is important, no doubt about it, but don't expect to get any as much as you would when you were single.
>>69319869
>teach her new techniques
If she's keen on fucking then she's keen on having an orgasm.
Just need to figure out where the spots are and to teach her to enjoy the ride better by making her aware of how she can increase the pleasure.
I highly doubt she actually performs in bed like a sack of collagen and lipids. Talk to your buddy about her sex habits. I think she just wants children and is using sex to achieve that, but out of love for her husband accepted that he will use condoms, so as a result all they do is missionary.
>>69319985
>>69320030
He can be a bit autistic at times. Sometimes he'll say something and it'll come out completely different then what he means. Also a bit clumsy
>>69319679
The first part of this is true. Communication is incredibly important in any relationship.
I can't disagree with the second part more though. I abhor using jealousy as a manipulation tool, if only because I'm a jealous man and even a little gets to me, so I refuse to inflict that upon someone whom I supposedly love.
That being said, to you OP, sex is an important part of a romantic relationship, to the extent that a marriage without sex having occurred can be annulled without it, legally and spiritually. It's literally called consummating the marriage.
Take a look at my picture. For a proper marriage you need commitment. For a good / happy marriage you need intimacy as well as passion. Those levels can vary, while commitment never should (in practice, your mind can do all the flips it wants as long as your actions remain stable).
There isn't one thing that's unimportant in a marriage, as it's a package deal. Some things are more important than others to certain people, but they're all necessary.
>>69319953
Absolutely this, if hes bitching about how bad she is at sex after all of these years its because its not happening. Maybe she went fridgid on him, maybe hes got broke dick but.
>>69319959
It probably did for your grandparents. It did for my Grandparents. And if people werent so stuck on living MTV lifestyle, it would for them too.
>>69320168
That's normal dude, just tell him what we told you, he has to romance her again because she is probably pissed off. So bring her some candy and some love letters, just tell her all that gay mushy stuff.
Then when they are back together, maybe get them to watch some porn or something.
>>69319917
>My brain has been reprogrammed by ten years of marriage - so that my wife has become my ideal sexual turn-on. It is hard to explain to someone that hasn't experienced that of course.
This is also true. Repeated exposure to intimacy reprograms the mind slowly, but due to the very nature of it, consensually as well.
It's able to be re-reprogrammed, such as if a relationship ends or a partner dies, which is a good thing. But it can get messy if someone has raw exposure to many people situations.
>>69320107
They actually discussed having kids and she said she wants to wait a few more years before having them. Probably a good idea if my friend doesn't fix the sex thing
>>69319507
I fuck my wife at least 4-5 times a week
Screw what anyone says, sex is 20% of a marriage
>>69320215
Actually from what he told be they have sex every couple of days
>>69320275
I will. They are a pretty good lookin' couple, it'd really be a shame if something like this destroys it.
>>69320339
I'm just after the 2 year mark of marriage. All that learning in 2 years, you'll know more than me at the ten year mark, for me, our shit is way more at peace now and I look forward to the future years.
Some funny moments in the first 2, no cheating, just hardcore butting heads.
I Look up to your Journey anon. Very decent.
>>69319917
and reply:
>>69320538
>>69320538
That will never end, only become more rare. I'm at 5 years this June.
>>69320600
Salute
>>69319782
Yeah I told him not to be a dick about it. Sex is different for everyone.
>>69320523
good good, this will work out, just give her a day then romance her with gay letters and candy.
>>69319507
I have sex about once a month with my fiancee, we're both 26 and live at home still. More often isn't necessary
>>69320636
Right back at you, Ausbro.
>>69319507
>got married after they had sex
What a cuck he didn't even get a virgin bride lmao
My gf was a virgin as well. You just have to take the time to teach them how to fuck.
There's also the possibility that the first time they fucked your friend was awful/made it a bad experience for her. There's a fuck ton of research and stuff online that talks about how important the first time is for a girl, if they have a really bad first fuck it almost always ruins them forever (provided someone doesn't spend a fuck ton of time fixing them.)
how can girls even be bad at sex?
I mean if they just kind of lay there I guess it's a little unstimulating but I've always made the most of it.
>>69319507
>Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex? Or is her personality more important? Or would you be unfaithful and a get a mistress to fulfill your needs?
I stayed with my ex-wife who was bad at sex because I was in love. I eventually started cheating for my gratification but the relationship suffered more from me diverting sexual energy away from the her and it fell apart anyway. At this point I think it's better to just not get emotionally involved at all.
>>69319507
i'm asexual, wife is poly, we've found ways to make it work and i'm game as long as she's happy :)
>>69319507
Lust is a sin. Sex shouldn't be for pleasure, and if there is pleasure it should come from loving passion alone.
>>69320947
Europe gib mon pleas
>>69320660
Interesting. In my past relationships, sex was just more spontaneous, like if we were horny then we'd fuck. Sometimes everyday and sometimes we wouldn't for a month(s).
>>69320774
I'll ask him about it, seems like a possibility
>>69320862
kek. My exact thoughts too anon
>>69320947
>That post
>That flag
>>69320947
Please post that full comic. I have never seen it but can tell from that frame alone that it is some cuck fantasy/slut explanation about cuckoldry that will make my blood boil.
>>69320660
my ex-gf, and current fuckbuddy and I have sex about once a week. sometimes more often.
If it were up to me i'd fuck every other day though.
I'm 21 now and we just recently broke up. I can only remember a little bit how sex was before we started dating, so it's hard to judge if she's good at sex or not. but i'd say not.
>>69320947
that sucks mate. i'm guessing you can't get an erection? do you use a strap-on or something?
>>69319507
>Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex?
No, it's not hard to use a woman's body for pleasure, unless she like, climaxes prematurely and refuses to continue before you get off or something ridiculous like that, as long as she lets your fuck her, it can't really go wrong.
I mean come the fuck on, just fuck your wife, what's she doing that messes it up?
This thread is grown up as fuck. I fucking love this thread anons
>>69319507
What do you do when your gf has a very low sex drive,is stressed because of work and you barely do anything once a month?
>>69320216
My Grandfather died because of a heart attack when he was around 50, he was a very stressed man because of his wife, who died at the age of 59, my mother and father divorced and they're still having dozens of lawsuits about a lot of random shit.
Didn't end very well for my family.
>>69319507
>bad at sex
They shouldn't have to do a whole lot, whether their on top, under you, or ass up you're still the one who does all the work.
How can she be bad?
Also sex every day isn't important in every relationship. Me and my gf only have sex like 2 or 3 times a week, she's super tight and I'm really big and last pretty long so any more than that and she's raw down there.
Most of the women I've been with bleed the first few times, it's pretty shitty.
>>69320947
fucking europe
>>69321600
Serious question? If so, lemme ask something first. You live together?
10/10 is always bad at sex, shoulda seen it coming
Kinda blows but I guess you get to have a trophy consolation?
>>69321600
are you alone often cuddled up? if so i don't see the problem. just start touching her all over and kissing her, and in a few minutes, by the time you get to her pussy, it should be nice and wet, and you're in. if it's not, she's fucked up, and there's nothing you can do.
>>69321619
Head up anon. My grandparents were happily married until the end. Tho I got a trifecta, my dad, grandad and grandmom all died within 12 weeks of each other. Which headfucked me good at the time.
>>69320450
Sex is 100% of marriage. The coupling of male and female is for sex and for fear of being alone.
>>69321669
what's your circumference?
>>69321600
do things for her to reduce her workload, for example if she always washes the dishes you wash the dishes so she won't be as tired. the more things like that that you can do for her the less tired she'll be which means more poon for you
>>69321669
BIG
CANADIAN
COCK
>>69321600
You need to talk about it. Not every woman is very into sex, but if they are willfully denying what you crave while expecting you to give them what they crave, its a two-way street.
Men are naturally programmed to want a lot of sex. Women are naturally programmed to want a lot of stuff. Neither is wrong because both are instinctual. But if you are giving her what she wants, and not getting what you want, then it's time to have a talk, and, if talking fails, you need to decide whether this is how you want the rest of your life to go.
>>69321816
This. Anon came in first. Take note of what he's saying. His advice is 100%
>>69321816
on point.
>>69321810
Idk I'm not huge or anything, I'd say probably 5" if I had to guess. I'm like 8" long though. I'm just like slightly above average.
>>69321816
Yeah. Living in a sexless monogamous relationship and taking on all the chores out of hopes for pity scraps. Great idea.
>>69321892
Shame on you.
>>69319507
>telling me how bad she is at sex.
unless she's super fat your whole story is complete bullshit. if you're wife is 19 and not fat you should be having some good sex.
>>69322030
cross wires.
Anon saying his misses is tired and stress from work. Anon come back with the advise to give a helping hand and lower some of the work load at home for the misses. that is 100% correct to make the misses feel better. Its right.,
If the sex is on ice and you don't have some kind of mutual understanding based on the length and value of the relationship, then your relationship is over and you just don't know it yet.
>>69319507
Your friend is a fucking loser who can't articulate what he likes during sex.
this is 100% his fault and I hope he falls down an uncovered manhole.
>>69319507
Bad at sex? No...
No sex? Yes...
>>69321996
i wish i had more length to be able to do some cool positions, but my fav is doggie, and i'm already hitting her cervix in that position if i thrust balls deep, so i guess it's ok. i can't imagine having to restict my self to net being able to go balls deep. seems like that eliminates the possibility of rough sex.
I'm 16cm long and 13.5 cm in circumference btw
>>69322263
Croatia with the girth. My grandad Croatian. RIP Ivan.
>>69319507
How fucking hard is it to get a goddamn guy off for women?
Holy shit. All our shit is on the outside. It doesn't take a goddamn rocket scientist to figu--
>women don't go into STEM
Never mind.
>>69322155
Sure. Lets cut his cock off and enslave him officially while we're at it. He can pleasure his missus with a dildo.
I don't know where you get off so gleefully white knighting a woman you don't know.
Best case scenario is the OP does more chores and nothing changes. Worst case scenario is she is encouraged by being rewarded for unwanted behavior.
>>69322081
Blue-balled virgins need not contribute.
>>69322395
Confused with which anon is which. R u married dude and how long for?
>>69319507
Sauce for the gif ?
>>69322465
I'm married. 5 years this June, and I would be against that course of action without having a long discussion before hand.
>>69322465
Anon was talking about a girlfriend.
>>69319507
this 10/10 wife is a real looser. She has everything catering to her but still, she unable to see a value of sex.
She is just an entitled bitch, who has never saw how real world works.
Your friend should divorce her ASAP.
>>69319507
it's up to the guy to teach a woman how to fuck.....and to make himself attractive enough to get a bitch going at least
desu a virginal waifu who's bad at sex is a fucking awesome problem to have
your friend is a faggot and he should give his woman to me if he doesn't want her
>>69319507
For women, it's not so important. That's why there's the lower expectations and lower sex drive.
For men, it's basically a way of saying I love you. I once didn't have sex with my GF for 2 months. At the end of it I was fucking getting mad, we were arguing more often and so on. After? Purring kitten.
>>69319959
Australia fuck off you twat
I can't have sex with my wife because she has a medical condition where sex causes her extreme pain. She even had to get her hymen surgically opened. She's terrible at blowjobs, so I don't even ask. Sexually, we are at 0 anything.
But hey, she understands her condition and how I need sex, so she let's me sleep with girls whenever I want as long as I let them know I'm married. Even in our bed, in our house. She just goes downstairs. We still love each other so much, everything besides sex is great. We've been together since 2011.
>>69321693
>You live together?
no
>>69321744
I get her wet but she is not "mentally" in the mood,im so tired of this shit
>>69321816
we don't live together
>>69321876
true,hope she won't think its her duty to open up her legs,its the easiest way to make a man happy,not food or holidays
you should have sex with your wife as much as physically possible
or you're this pic
>having a wife
>current year
>>69322369
which part of Australia do you live in? i'm australian by citizenship as well, though i've never been there. i'm moving in about 2 years.
>>69320107
Fucking this, Fritzl is right!
If she enjoys sex more, she'll be more keen on fucking well and reciprocate. OP's buddy is confirmed asshole.
>>69319507
If his girl is bad at sex, has he tried to communicate with her about what isn't great and tried to work on the sex? If she doesn't know she's shit, how can she change?
UPDATE: found out she has a fetish. She likes seeing guys piss themselves. He said that he found out one day after he pissed himself in the car while together. He said when they got home they had sex and this was the only time she was somewhat alright
>>69322796
problem solved
>>69322732
Croatia bro. U need to move here. I'm in Sydney. The largest city. Doesnt mean the greatest. tho largest economy of the states.
>>69319507
No, you just teach her to be better at sex and fulfill or indulge in eachothers fantasies and learn to maintain a healthy relationship.
This is how relationships work.
sex is overrated and not important in any relationship. All sex is bad sex because it's boring. If I eat a bacon cheeseburger every night I start to hate them. If you have to start sticking fingers in your ass and singing while banging on the ceiling or some shit to get off you have a problem, it's called expecting sex to be something more than it is you stupid little animal. This is the most important lesson you will ever learn and will solve 99% of your problems
>>69322767
This exactly what I said to him. He told me that she didn't realize how bad at sex she was until he told her and got in an argument over it.
>>69319507
As long as she actually put out then I wouldn't care. Blowjobs. If she didn't give blowjobs then I'd probably be a bit annoyed as those are pretty awesome, particularly since I'd be happy to reciprocate.
If she can give a decent blowjob and doesn't mind cowgirl and doggystyle then I really don't care.
Ultimately, if I found someone who would regularly get me off, be attractive, be smart, be sensible, and be a good mother to my children then I'd have no room to complain. Forget the fancy stuff if those are accomplished.
>>69320947
>Europe flag
>literal total cuck
dobgeg
>>69322904
what would you say is the best city? i heard Melbourne. but i also heard a lot of good said about Brisbane.
>>69322702
>true,hope she won't think its her duty to open up her legs,its the easiest way to make a man happy,not food or holidays
If she tries that, ask her if she would be upset if you withheld all the things she likes, and, if so, how she would react to you saying, "You think it's my duty to provide you all those dinners/backrubs/romantic comedy movies/etc?"
It's something that all men naturally crave, it has a lot to do with self esteem. When you don't get it, you feel as though you are failing, which frustrates you, because you don't know in what way you are failing.
I'm not saying it always has to be sex (some women genuinely find vaginal sex painful), but, so long as the man is doing everything right, sexual gratification is a cue to this. If you take the cue of, "you're doing everything right," away, it leads to confusion and frustration, which has the potential to destroy your ego, along with the relationship.
Men aren't blocks of iron, and women should never confuse stoicism with being emotionless.
>>69323085
Sex and companionship are the only reasons for relationships.
>>69323180
You people go on and on.
Either she's a good girlfriend or she's not. Reassess and act accordingly.
>married sex eventually gets boring...that's why married people cheat...it's only natural...just don"t get caught.
My FAVORITE type of girl is a girl who's bad at sex, because I get to tell her what to do and control is my fetish.
>grab her hair and kiss her neck
>take off her clothes
>flip her over and fuck her while my hand is on her neck
>when I want her to suck my dick I just take her head and bring it to my dick
Unless what you mean by "bad" is, like, she won't suck his dick or only allows you to fuck missionary. That would be terrible and would probably be a deal-breaker unless she's truly 10/10 genius wifey material. But bad as in "in idea what to do", oh my god, that turns me on so much
>>69323354
that's so depressing to think about
>>69323354
Or just have a wife who is okay with my situation
>>69323180
you don't win by talking and negotiating with a woman. you win by being a man, being forceful with sex (in a marriage) because they're attracted to that, and it makes them feel needed on a primal level.
negotiation is for other things in a marriage, such as the name of the child. negotiation is NOT for sex. sex is much more primal. a woman doesn't want a negotiator in bed any more than a man wants a fat bitch
>>69322732
So what you're telling me is.. If I spend 30 minutes cooking something, that's tastes "yum", and that I get to eat too, and then at the end of it, you'll just suck me off every single time. Now, where did those tongs get to...
>>69322732wait. LMFAO
>>69323461
There's a difference between explanation and negotiation. Sexual release is not up for negotiation. That said, there is nothing wrong with explaining WHY it isn't up for negotiation.
>>69323461
Fat women are easy lays though. You just gotta tell them that no one other than you would really want to screw them. They'll either cry, fuck you, or do both.
>>69323386
He says shes open to a lot of things, she's just not good at it. He said blow jobs are bad, hand jobs are bad, and their sex is just bad. I think he just having a bad time at work or something though, there is no way his wife could be as bad as he's saying, she is quite the qt
>>69323625
Women don't have dicks. Somebody needs to be the one to explain what feels good, and what doesn't. Guidance is crucial for inexperienced women.
>>69322030
>hopes of pity scraps
reply:
>69323476
>>69323689
Put your dick back in your pants anon
>>69323548
a woman doesn't want to sit down with an inventory checklist about how to please a man though. she wants him to grab her and throw her onto the bed
>>69323583
you are really givingme austrialian vibes
>>69322030
>hopes of pity scraps
reply:
>>69323476
>>69323625
>blow jobs are bad, hand jobs are bad, and their sex is just bad
been there, done that, some women have real boner killers for hands, like, how do they manage to be so terrible, it's amazing, and some can make a blowjob feel more bad than good, somehow
Hey at least she'd give head, some won't.
>>69323700
No idea what you're on about now.
>>69323753
>a woman doesn't want to sit down with an inventory checklist about how to please a man though.
Never said she did.
>she wants him to grab her and throw her onto the bed
Not always true.
>>69319507
>Marriage
Not even once.
>>69323476
>>69323539
>>69323700
>>69323754
damn bro, lot of effort for a 4 word reply...
>>69323753
Nope. American. But you get that way when you can't have sex with your wife
>>69323689
I honestly think he's just plain bad at communication at this point
>>69323156
>Melbourne
MElbourne and Brisbane are both nice Melbourne the larger city.
Add steam croatia bro, bounce , cross check whatever stuff
ID: 412533
>>69323804
Clearly you have a fetish but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
>>69323853
Badly.
>>69323872
Sounds like it. It sounds like he wants a virgin to be able to fuck like a porn star straight out of the box. Most women don't instinctively have that ability. This means you either need to teach them, or you need an "experienced," woman.
>>69319507
>Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex
no because anyone could get good at anything if they just practice
>>69319648
I blame the Jews for brainwashing men into thinking that their pornographic sex life with a female is the primary consideration in a relationship. I also blame women for being brainwashed for thinking that their pussy is the only thing they have to offer in a relationship.
Your wife is supposed to be for procreation, household management, child rearing, and the social catalyst for your community interactions.
Of course sex plays into the equation in as much as children and non-degenerate orgasm, however she was never expected to do any more than lie there and rule Britannia until the last century and new-age sexual liberation bullshit. If you were man of base sexual inclination you had your secret mistresses and whorehouses to keep your occupied so as not to tire you dutiful wife who after some years of marriage is more akin to a relative and partner in life rather than a fuck object.
But thanks to cultural Marxism and social degradation we are back to a naturalistic interpretation of human relationships as simply a matter of expressing our lust and physical desires onto each other. Modern men desire a pure waifu on the streets and an indefinite private porn star in the sheets and don't see how this can't possible work when applied general to all women.
Women are either going to be sluts or prudes. If you want a slut don't be butthurt when she follows her pussy elsewhere and if shes a prude for godsake don't pull the shit that OP's friend did. This is literally an example of men contributing to degeneracy but you all will call me some white-knight shill because god forbid anyone call out modern men on their degeneracy.
Nope, its all da womynz fault!!!
>>69323948
Would you just name fag already, so I can filter you?
https://archive.is/hRbyP
>>69324009
Berniecuck needs a safespace?
>>69323899
will do, mate!
>>69324099
OTherwise shits up thread, but all ok hit me up for geographical city questions and stuff
>>69324066
>Not wanting to see annoying comments from a person who is blatantly wrong and knowingly annoying about literally everything he posts equals, "Wanting a safe space."
Whatever helps you sleep at night, bud. Last response you'll get from me, either way.
>>69324173
>I shitted up the thread
>>69323964
Yeah he had past sexual relationships so I guess he knows what he thinks "good" sex is like. Although I'm just astound at his whole situation.
>>69324213
Alright. Stay butthurt.
>>69319507
You can't have a stable relationship without sex unless both partners are not interested in it. That's literally the only way. He made a mistake marrying before taking for a test drive, because the humans create the strongest bonds during the intercourse. However it's not entirely his own fault, since she's unwilling to do anything about it.
t. armchair psichologist
>>69319507
OP, what if
your friend just wants you to fuck his wife?
>>69319507
that sounds like something hollywood would make up to make people feel insecure. jesus christ, if anything, they should get a divorce because bringing up particular subjects makes them have arguments so bad that the "man" of the house has to move out for a while. how fucking ridiculous
>>69324231
I love it. He's obviously trusts her enough to get married, but not enough to tell her what he likes.
>>69323899
says you were last online 700 days ago, not sure if i got the right profile
>sashqa?
Maybe it's possible your friend is bad at sex himself. As others said, communication is key. I always tell a girl to let me know if something isn't working right for them because it won't improve otherwise. You have to put ego aside and remember everyone gets off slightly different. And if you're showing that you are willing to take feedback, she'll also be open to receiving feedback if she's not a total bitch.
Also, don't take on the chores forever but do it every once in a while. It's the simplest shit ever and women go crazy for it. I did a load of laundry and emptied the dishwasher (which took less than five minutes) and when my gf got home she was so ecstatic about it that she gave me a full body massage, a pedicure, sucked my dick, went out to the grocery store and bought things to make me dinner. It is literally the easiest fucking trade off. But you can't do it all the time or else the rewards decrease, she'll begin to expect you to do it, and then she'll actually get mad at you for not doing it.
>>69322710
That's why I only date slavs.
>Strong family values
>Hard worker
>Crazy in the sack
>Devout as fuck
>Christian
>>69324377
nah. not mine.
search profile name, just being these numbers 412533
>>69324305
it's probably this
tell him you'll have to have sex with her to give proper advice and determine if she's actually worthless
>>69322395
>can't teach his wife how to have sex
>calls me the virgin
k den
>>69319507
Teach her how to be better at sex then you giant cuck.
>Hurr a virgin isn't a goddess in bed no fucking wai!
>>69324377
>>69324444
never mind, just realized your actual name was the number.
>>69319507
Honestly, I rate sex behind quality conversation and bantz.
>>69324492
gimme the initials of your nick?>
>>69324467
this. i just told him this an hour ago and he had the nerve to call ME the virgin.
fucking nu male millenial faggots.
She's 19. unless she's very fat it's his fault.
>>69324305
Kek. I'd be all for it.
>>69324325
Yeah I guess you could say hes quite the autist
>>69324408
>Maybe it's possible your friend is bad at sex himself
This is probably a big possibility.
>>69324458
Sex emerges out of your feelings. If you are affectionate and on an even keel with your lady then the sex will be fine on it's own.
Having a singular obsession with teaching a girl how to have sex is creepy.
Cutting off sex is the first way a woman will tell you she is unhappy with the relationship. That's the only point I've made.
>>69319507
Youir friends is a fucking retard and that girls should dump his retarded ass. Instead of patiently teaching her how to get good at sex, he basically wants a hooker in his bed right now. I'll never understand how these fucking asshats manage to get decent women.
I wouldn't end it if she just wasn't good, because she can get better. I would end a marriage if my wife tried the headche/too tired shit constantly. I don't want to spend my prime years whining that I'm not getting the sex I want.
>>69319507
Who the fuck pisses himself without a medical condition
>>69324622
you said your marriage was good in every way except the sex. not my fault you decided to move the goalposts.
>>69321619
Sorry about your shit family
>>69325245
You are confused. I'm not married.
I've had girlfriends that were good and bad in bed. If a girl really wants to be with you then she will be good in bed. There's no reason for any man to settle for lesser treatment, but many of the losers here are too far gone.
>>69325391
wtf stop making hypotheticals then idgaf. i literally told you you shouldn't be having sex problems at that age now you are agreeing with me.
>>69325453
Again you have me mixed up with someone else. The responses I've garnered here are very perplexing.
>>69319507
Only reason this takes place is because someone has been tainted by porn and have become sexually perverted, prove me wrong you expect your wife to do anal or give you blow jobs just like in all your cuck porn vids you watched and when you realize she won't do it for being respectful to herself you go full retarded "wah my wife doesn't know how to have sex" go get a whore wife faggot, your friend don't deserve that girl looked like he jerk off too much to porn
>>69320862
Came in to post this. A girl that does a bit more will obviously better, but even one that does fuck all will do. Unless she's biting your dick during blowjobs and bending it all over the place when riding I don't see how a woman could be bad at it.
>>69324008
Great post!
>>69325810
Nah, these fuckers want a virgin wife that fucks like Sasha Grey.
>>69322691
Wow, you cuck your wife. Dark post Nippon, never change
>>69325532
you replied to my very first post in this thread you fucking new reddit faggot
fuck you you fucking little bitch piece of shit
>>69322691
Wow, you cuck your wife. Kinda fucked up Nippon, but if you're both happy...
>>69326080
Pretty much. Sometimes she cries about it, but it's okay.
Sex sounds gay as fuck 2bqfh
That shit ain't for me.
>>69322691
Wow, you openly cuck your wife. Pretty fucked up but whatever floats your boat
>>69319507
Virgins suck at sex, you gotta train them.
Within 1-2 years you can have a hot little slut.
>>69322691
Wow, your wife is straight
KEKED
U
C
K
E
D
how are the ladies over there eh?
>>69326141
Woah that's pretty brutal. You should try fucking her face and tits and like playing with her shit. Is it the penetration that hurts or the stimulus?
>>69319507
>not teaching her how to fuck better
friend confirmed for retarded
Honest question, how can a hot woman be bad at sex?
You can just try tie them up and throw them around and fuck the shit out of them. They don't even have to do anything and if they're hot it's a good time
>>69319953
/thread
this is a non-problem, unless you are a massive chucklefuck
>>69326336
By making weird faces and shit. Also if they sound like a farm animal. I've experienced both. I still got off though.
>>69319507
mistress
>>69326198
>>69326243
>>69326132
You OK, dude?
>>69322691
way to go, sudoku
way to go
>>69326318
You don't need to keep posting the same thing but worded differently. And I can't fuck her face because she gags easily. Her tits don't do much because she has such a low libido. And it's the penetration that hurts. Her muscles are basically locked up down there. Even botox shots and muscle relaxants plus alcohol didn't help relieve the pain. I got it in her once, but she wasn't able to move or anything and just concentrated on ignoring the pain. So technically, she's not a virgin.
And japanese girls aren't too bad. Pretty passive and shy, which makes it hard to get laid
>>69326519
Lel someone noticed
>>69320216
>mfw Australia is based
>>69326646
stop using a proxy, leaf
>>69320947
Euroba nod gidding
>>69319507
>bad at sex
This is the most shit tier meme I have ever seen. What was she missing a vagina or something?
>>69326634
Get a clit massager and have her jerk you off. I dunno, do something. I just have a hard time imagining a life with no sexual fulfillment and how fucking brutal that would be. You, on the other hand, are a goddam shogun of shagging and you have my respect.
>>69324008
>secret mistresses and whorehouses
>non-degenerate
>>69326103
Yeah I called you a virgin. Everything you said after made no sense. Are you retarded?
>>69326103
Also I belong here you impotent little weasel.
>>69319507
>Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex?
No. If she's unable and unwilling to improve herself to make it work? Yes.
>>69326825
We have one. Every now and then, I let her wear panties with one built in. But because of her shit libido, that's not often. Ithe sucked pretty hard in the beginning, but once she let me cuck her it got better. Though, I don't think she knows what a cuck is anyway.
>>69319507
Tell him to Find another girl and start fucking her. Wife will either come your back friend's way or divorce him.
Win for him either way.
>>69326896
>>69326949
fuck you reddit faggot.
>>69326991
Well, I don't think she's actually a cuck because she clearly doesn't get off in the idea. Have you ever suspected that she may be working for the machines? Is it possible that she was sent back in time to obtain valuable information by getting close to you but was not programmed for sex? Is her CPU a neural net processor, a learning computer?
>>69326336
Because real sex isn't like porn where they are just your fleshlight to pummel, they can make it better by moving against you, syncing up with your timing, judging where you like to be caressed, where you like to be kissed, signalling what they like, bringing your hands and mouth where they want them to go on ther body, judging how far along you are and slowing down or going faster accordingly, ect, all hot as shit but things you'll never see in porn because they require emotional intimacy which is highly illegal for the goyim to know.
>>69327222
Pfft, i wish. Then she'd be good at math and organizing. I wouldn't have to order her to do dishes or laundry
>>69325783
>>69327222
Skynet pls go
>>69319869
ask him if he will let you try and teach her a few things.
>>6932743
Time to leaf
>>69319507
If you don't fuck your gf, she's not really your gf.
Same with wives.
>>69319507
The answer is, it doesn't matter. What's right is whatever the wife says. If she wants to cut off sex, sex is cut off. Get a divorce if you can afford it. That's your only option. Marriage counseling will not get her wet. Date nights will not not fix it. When she says it's over, it's over. Half of marriages end in divorce, the other half are sexless.
>>69322155
>>69323476
>>69323700
>>69323754
>>69323953
>>69324009
>>69324213
>>69324458
>>69325245
>>69327213
Bunch of freaks. I bet you all masturbate in public parks.
>>69322691
I'm just like you anon except I don't have sex with other girls either and my wife and I don't really like each other.
but other than that we're exactly the same, what a coincidence
>>69327669
You're god damn right I do
>>69326895
It is degenerate, but its vetted and quarantined degeneracy that better than it seeping into proper society like it has now.
I am not saying men SHOULD go to whorehouses or have mistresses but I am being practical to the base nature of large enough percentage of men.
Its a sin, its frowned upon, and if you get found out you will get socially blasted for it but let it exist in dark rooms so that the rest of the house can be clean.
Historically it worked out fine until the "left" of a hundred years ago decided drinking and whoring was suddeny a no-no and men have to be chaste and pure as women. Literally the predecessors to modern SJWs.
>>69327680
Sounds like that sucks. Yours got vaginismus too?
>>69319507
'Bad at sex' is really subjective. If he didn't like what she was doing all it takes is tossing out some suggestions here and there.
>Why don't we try this next time?
It's really not that hard, and you avoid looking as though you're criticizing your partner. The fact that there was a fight over it speaks volumes about how your friend handled it, which was more likely than not like a manchild.
>>69327680
>>69327979
t. ken-sama and john-sama, JET program """teachers""" in japan for a shitty year
>>69319507
this seems to happen more than not to couples who get together as virgins and stay together. sorry, but it is the truth.
I have a theory as to why but I do not doubt in the least that it will be difficult for men to understand, and that the majority of you alls are going to get all defensive and bitchy and "not MUH virgin!!! gawrsh!!!"
anyways, typically for a virgin female sex FUCKING SUCKS. it hurts like a motherfucker and not just once or twice - it took me quite literally years to actually be able to relax and ENJOY sex, despite having a very sweet and considerate partner with an average sized dong.
now, the thing is: if I were already married after having lost my virginity, I honestly think I would've turned into a complete and utter "prude" because sex was literally so fucking horrid and painful and shitty, and heck, I was already married so I wouldn't have had to worry about "keeping" my partner, unlike in your average (nonmarried) relationship.
tl:dr: my only motivation to actually let my bf keep fucking me was the thought that if i don't let him there will no doubt be another girl who will whereas wives don't have to worry about this - they are already contractually obligated, regardless of sex life.
> inb4 defensive twats
>>69330047
ok, I may not have been as clear as I was hoping to with this comment: I was trying to say that the only reason my own sex life ever evolved into something not horrible was because of my own insecurities which newly married couples generally rightfully lack or at least have much, much less of.
I have seen this happen over and over again. the women who are "prudes" and hate sex are generally women whose sex life never had the chance to evolve over time in their late teens/early 20s.
> inb4 ur a sloot
>>69330047
A
FUCKING
QUEEF
>>69319507
>not training your kitchendweller to perform as needed
Im sure you two are really just faggots and thats why hes at your place and not plowing her.
>>69319632
>I have sex with my wife everyday. Women don't fuck when they are mad at you. It's about as simple as that. Your friend is either an asshole or his dick doesn't work right anymore.
It's also possible that she's frigid and simply doesn't feel anything from penetrative vaginal intercourse. At least not alone.
His friend is probably just really vanilla in the sack and it does absolutely nothing to trigger her sexual arousal.
>>69319507
>Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex?
I would never have proposed or otherwise agreed to marriage if she was bad at sex. My wife is enough of a freak to keep it interesting & challenging.
In part, that's because I also keep it interesting and challenging. It sounds like your friend doesn't know shit about sex and is unable to "bring it" in the bedroom himself. If he was getting his wife off at all with serious, intense orgasms, she would have a much higher interest in sex for the sake of mutual sex, not because she lays there performing some duty that God commands her to perform.
>>69320947
>>69320947
>Europe flag
>A total cuck
>Nothing more to say
>>69330047
>>69330289
Jesus, the tone that this post is written in is appalling. It's fucking grating to read.
>>69319507
This is why I dumped your mum
>>69319869
Can't he just bend her over?
>>69327979
No, she's just frigid I guess
All I see here are posts complaining about the woman. In my case, it's my boyfriend who doesn't seem interested in sex at all. In all other aspects our relationship is well, but at times it has been over a year without any sex. And he doesn't even like the idea much of me getting a toy.
inb4: he's cheating. Trust me, he's not. He's just not interested.
>>69324008
underrated
Obviously this is old news for /pol
#openbordersforisrael
#multiculturalismforisrael
Etc
But if someone on a public platform say a panel show or something. Were to present an argument to a journalist hack/ politician:
I support trumps reasoning for building a wall *insert reasons* and I also support the wall that is guarding Israel from Palestinian annihilation.
How can you Mr ---stein allow one but condemn the other?
What would go down? Surely logically they are now between a rock and a hard place.
The hypocrisy of prominent liberal *for USA only* Jews and neocons would be pubically on display. And you can't really call someone an antisemite if they defend Israel's sovreignity.
A Google search tells me that the god emperor has already tried this on Ms Clinton but it has been sweeped under the carpet.
>>69333144
i love how ppl lie to themselfs
it takes 30 minutes to visit a whore and be done with their desires of flesh
you obviously dont fullfill that desire
>>69333144
He's not sexually attracted to you anymore.
I felt the same way with my ex.
>>69333268
Got damnit meant to be a new thread
>>69319782
You know pol is maturing when even Aussie shit posters can bring valuable insight to te conversation
I'm pretty sure for the last 4 years I've been here it's just been the same few hundred people and we're all just growing as people. The idea of that makes me happy
>>69319869
Well he sounds like a entiteld little shit.
Also this story sounds made up.
Nobody would talk that disrespectful of there partner for no reason
How is it possible for a woman to be bad at sex?
Put wiener in vag and move around until it feels good its not that difficult. what is he expecting her to do? Fuck him in the ass?
Does your friend realize women don't have dicks and that he might be gay
>>69319507
Women can take direction well (usually, unless they're so insecure about their abilities in the bedroom that when you give them direction they lose it)
Typically you should tell your partner what you enjoy, and vise versa. "Do _____ note" "I love it when you do _______" is a good way of telling someone what to do, without making it known that you aren't enjoying the sex as a whole. Even stating "hey I like _____ better when you do ________" is a nonaggressive way of leading someone in the right direction. It is not complicated to please a man, despite that I still hear people complain about their abilities or the abilities of their partner. I think communication goes a long way in regards to sex. I know that if my significant other thought I was bad at sex, I would want them to communicate with me and tell me what they do and don't like. Also, nothing is hotter than a man telling you exactly what they want you to do to them in the bedroom-- so if a woman takes offense to a man telling her what to do, she's a lunatic or gay.
Short version: your buddy is a cuck and should be telling his wife what he wants in the bedroom so that she can learn how to please him correctly.
>>69319507
Sex just isn't that big of a deal. I fuck my gf when we're horny. That can be 8 times in a single day or once in three days. It's just very spontaneous and we just do what we want. We try some new things all the time. When she's horny it's really easy to get her to try new stuff. Your friend has no one to blame but himself. Getting good as sex is just like getting good at anything else. Practice. He should have her watch porn, let her emulate some of the stuff these pros do. That's how my gf got good at blowjobs, she was horrible in the beginning.
>>69334119
Let her watch pros?!
It's spooky how people think you can learn shit from porn.
She good better at bj because she learnd through your responds and reaction what YOU like.
The tree people in my live I had sex with liked all very different things.
>>69324008
>women fucked up hard, but men also have their mistakes they need to own up to
/pol/, are we maturing?
>>69320947
Are you shitposting from work again? Are you the same poster from /int/?
>>69319507
>break off a potentially lifelong relationship
>for not being good at a learnable skill
All that matters is that the two people love each other and will always be loyal to each other.
How can women be bad at sex? Most men, like me, are sexual egoists. I put my penis inside her pussy or anus and think about my own enjoyment. Sometimes you flip her over and hold her legs in a certain position, but that's it. He should be happy she's basically a fucktoy without any independent thoughts of her own regarding sex.
>>69319507
>Would you /pol/ break up with your wife cause she was bad at sex?
No.
>Or is her personality more important?
Yes.
>Or would you be unfaithful and a get a mistress to fulfill your needs?
No.
- t. 30 year old virgin
>>69335046
>Let her watch pros?!
>It's spooky how people think you can learn shit from porn.
I'm not saying copy everything, but the techniques and positions you can try emulating and see if that works for you. Why not? There's no harm in it. We would see some crazy position in porn and try to emulate that. Sometimes it doesn't work at all and we'd laugh about it. Where's harm in that? Why not experiment?
>>69319507
How old is he? Just remind him of the average girl his age today. How fat and blown out must women are by 25. Seriously. He needs to stick with his wife and make it up to her.
He realizes that by complaining, it reminds her that she isn't his first? That probably hurt her.
>In 1960, the average American male weighed about 166.3 pounds, which was the average weight for American women in 2010 at 166.2
Seriously. He needs to just teach her how to be better at banging, Or Cry himself a fucking river.
how is it even possible to be bad at sex?
is this some jewish nonsense kind of like "sexual compatibility?
>>69335241
I'm scared anon...
>>69333144
What the other fags said, men are simple really, if we like you, we want the sexy time, when we stop wanting the sexy time, we don't like you.
That is unless he's insanely insecure then you should talk to him, he just may be feeling that he doesn't please you so he doesn't want to do it, or is going through something that is very difficult for him.
also don't exclude cheating.
>>69319507
Let me bestow upon you some hardcore slavic wisdom, your friend is a faggot, you should tell him to stop being a fucking faggot, because finding nice women is hard, and if he doesn't stop being a faggot or messes up his relationship up, he should consider just removing himself from existence, to do the world a favor.
What makes a women good at sex?
>>69336181
Tight pussy, that's it.
In the way that OP's story sounds, the guy played his hand in the exact wrong way to go about the situation. He could have taught her some things along the way, make it fun for the both of them, and learn what she likes as well, but if all he wants to do is cum, then getting pissed off at his wife for not being "good" at sex is really his own problem. Sex is like anything else in a marriage, it requires communication and there will be times where it's just not going to happen. Sounds to me like they really don't know what to do now that they are legit married and the "honeymoon" period has worn off to make way for the doldrums of everyday life together. Love, loyalty, and communication is what a marriage requires. Without any of those 3 things, shit will turn sour, but if that is the case then you really can't be surprised if it does.
- t. I'm married & I know how to make it work.
>>69319507
Is she on antidepressants? I had an ex on them and the best way I can describe sex with her is like when a landing gear doesn't deploy on a jet.
Women, and certainly married women have an obligation to please their husband, likely they will have a low sex drive, so half the time they will be really into it, and half the time just fulfilling an obligation.
If they aren't fulfilling that obligation, then she can't complain when he has an affair or sees a prostitute.
As much as the jews make things much worse, men have failed to raise a generation of daughters, boomer males are fucking cancer.
>>69336144
he watch too much porn
