What's /pol/ Opinion on MGTOW
>>69310575
>MGTOW
what that stand for?
Magical Giggling Turd Of Wormhole?
>>69310656
Men going their own way
>>69310575
Go worship pussy somewhere else.
Our version of the "I don't need no man" kinda woman.
It's distasteful tbhq.
>>69310575
In my opinion such people are spineless cretins who hit a stumbling block and gave up instead of trying to succeed. And what kind of man needs a movement to validate his lifestyle?
>>69310737
i dont see a problem with going my own way
But i guess in USA MGTOW is some kind of autistic group just as everything else in America.
Cool indifference.
>>69310575
Friendly Reminder to all Amerifags
Join the NRA. If you ever have to kill a coon in self defense, they help cover your legal fees and get you a good lawyer
>>69310575
>Rape Sim 7
![carlcuck[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UfRWxPC.jpg "carlcuck[1].jpg")
>>69310575
so they gave a name to men who don't need women to tell them what to do.
who cares?
the only way to go is your own way.
have to live your own life, can't let your life be dictated by pussy.
>>69310575
Is that Shmorky, the diaperfur transfaggot?
>>69311093
Yea pretty much. It's an extremely autistic group and I don't know why so many people post about them here.
>>69310575
>What's /pol/ Opinion on MGTOW
more lyke wats MGTOW Opinion on /pol/? amirite?
>>69310575
MGTOW makes total sense in terms of sexual economics. It's a general strike, and will help men.
But I'm a scab lol
I don't see why you need validation for living a lifestyle
just live that style
why make a fuss about it
>>69310575
I think its stupid no need to tell everyone you are a loner
But i find it ironic that a cuck draws a comic that makes fun of cuck
>>69310575
They're right. Cunts are fucking subhuman.
>>69310575
It's the only logical stand that a man can make in the Western World today
>>69310575
Retarded. You don't need a woman to validate you or make you happy but MGTOW reeks of autism and seems filled with the kind of people who nobody would fuck even if they weren't part of a 'movement'.
>>69311412
Because it's bait and pol falls for it every time. Seriously this is the easiest board to trick.
The psychologically castrated or modern Eunuch.
>>69310575
A bunch of bullshit made by jews and nu-males.
MGTOW just means they don't pursue pussy right? Like if they were out and about and some girl was giving off all the signs they'd go for it right? Denying biological imperatives just makes you delusional.
>>69310575
I hate MGTOW but I hate the tranny degenerate freak who drew this more.
Men too weak to get a women so they just pretend women are all trash and that's why they can't get any.
Too pathetic to even be funny.
>>69311093
It's not it's just 4chan virgins like to decry MGTOW so they can fit in
MGTOW is men taking back power from women
MGTOW does not exist. These men never had a choice and are rationalizing their failings.
>>69310575
reasonable reaction to what's going on
and that image is retarded
>hurr stupid men are republican and nice to womyn. no wonder they deserve to be virgns xDDDDD
>t-the numales are actually antifeminist!
nice try senpai
In the end, people do what they want with their lives. If MGTOW thing their life is better without females, then so be it.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: If you want to get married, don't get a state-issued marriage license. It will fuck you if you get a divorce.
Just marry the old fashioned way -- go to a church. I say this as an atheist.
Fuck bitches, get mlp toys
They don't exist. It's a false flag organized by the same nu-males who fuss about the lack of chicks on the internet.
>>69311553
Are you sure about that? I think some /r9k/ likes them a lot and I know a lot of those queers post here.
>>69310575
Most of them aren't going their own way by choice.
>>69311593
Yes it's about not worshipping pussy like all the 4chan betas do
That's why there's so much hate for MGTOW because they're out there living life and making things happen meanwhile 4chan posters are jerking their virgin dicklets to cartoons and trannys
>fedora
>"nice guy"
>brony
>raciss
>/fit/bro
>unkempt face
Artist is attempting to mix memes which do not mix. It's like some white knight faggot collected all the classically mocked and hated groups on the internet and combined them into one; and in doing so, nullified any point they were trying to make.
Pure garbage.
MGTOW is kind of a hodgepodge of a few different ideologies.
Originally it was literally "Marriage is a stupid idea, women are going to divorce you, steal your money, and kidnap your children, if you had any, so avoid it because it's crazy", which is reasonable.
But then you basically have them get co-opted by a shitload of /r9k/ and wizardchan virgins, nu-males, betas, ponyfags, and other undesirable chaff that were seeking a label that they could plaster on themselves to justify their failures as humans.
OG MGTOW would still fuck whores, and many of them ended up MGTOW *because* they had been through a divorce, dodged a bullet with pre-nup, etc.
At this point it's no different than how early wave feminists literally just wanted rights/ability to vote and then got co-opted by batshit insane wiccans/bra-burners/misandrists and ruined it for everyone.
tl;dr avoid at all costs now
>>69311593
I don't even look for signs.
Not MGTOW either though. Just a loner.
![SAFLogo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bMwshBo.jpg "SAFLogo[1].jpg")
>>69311304
The NRA are a bunch of protectionist faggots who help American gun manufacturers, not gun owners. They've sold us out before, and they can do it again. Give your money to a superior organization.
>>69311683
>MGTOW does not exist. These men never had a choice and are rationalizing their failings.
I would think that the opposite is true to be honest.
There definitely used to be a concept of a respected man who doesn't give a shit about women. They were probably virgins a lot of the time, but nobody thought about it like that.
It's the modern age that makes everyone feel like they need the perfect relationship.
>>69310575
>MGTW
>>69310856
The difference is men can actually pull it off because they've been pulling it off for years.
>>69310575
Useful idiots to continue the fall of families and marriage in the white world. Basically male feminists.
Communism is anemic and frail compared to capitalism.
We never needed to go to war with communist countries, communism was destined to be swallowed by the ultimate capitalist empire USA. But empires need an enemy to project power upon.
>>69310575
>Everything I don't like is the same, the image
>>69312098
Fuck
Mgtow seems like some kind of controlled opposition to feminism; the overall agenda being population control or slow elimination of certain ethnic groups, whites for instance.
>>69311935
I don't understand disinterest in women. Woman are one of the most enticing things about living.
>>69310575
They're fine, in blue states. I have a decent woman, but those are fucking rare. If I lived in California you couldn't get me to marry a bitch at gunpoint.
>>69310575
>tfw fell for the MGTOW meme and am now 27 year old virgin with no friends
Fuck all of you.
>>69312277
People really are different, surprisingly different.
I like sex and relationships, but I like my studies more. Luckily I have both, but I know which would be the first to go.
>>69311830
Those aren't people.
>>69311683
>>69312400
I don't think of myself as MGTOW or an MRA or whatever. I am a KV though so by any stretch of the imagination I'm a colossal failure. I don't try to avoid women, I'm not a fat neckbeard, just useless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJypbr3cbM
that guy is mgtow nigga
>>69312527
>KV
What?
>>69312617
kissless virgin
>>69310575
Someone who genuinely don't care about women wouldn't feel the need to give himself a label just to seek attention from his peer. That is mainly my problem with MGTOW and the stance that it stand for.
You don't need to shout your view out the roof just to show your point. It is downright stupid and asking yourself to be an attention whore that seek out to be a special snowflake in the worst obnoxious way.
>>69312277
Thats cuz your a beta faggot who values them too much.
>>69311926
iktfb
>>69312400
Most MGTOW's don't advocate celibacy or friendlessness though
>>69310575
I understand the whole concept of not making woman the whole point of your life, and breaking that dynamic, but most of these guys are going about it in an autistic way.
Pretty sure it just means alpha male birth control when
>>69310575
giving a name to it and participating in a community for it makes you a faggot
just live your life and try not to fuck up. no need to make a goddamn subreddit for this shit.
>>69310575
That picture is dumb.
Bronies are well aware of why they're single.
I'm mestizo and all for MGTOW.
Is that okay with you /pol/? I was already married to a 8/10 curvy white girl with huge tits. Didn't work out and now I hate women.
>>69310575
Someone must be scared of them because I think they're rather reasonable.
>>69311508
this guy gets it
>>69312400
If you don't like that you certainly chose wrong.
Just gonna leave this here.
>>69312694
Right. Because pursuing women is so beta.
>>69311975
Lol no. Historically everything man has done has been for women and a stable future for his children. You are just a faggot man-child and likely a libertarian cuck.
By opting out you are getting cucked by the next guy in line thats gets the girl you didn't give a chance to.
>>69313025
It can be if you use them to validate your existence. Manwhores are just as empty inside as their female counterparts.
>>69310575
I like how fedora tipping atheshits and SJW cucks got so assblasted over the image they established for themselves online that they try to project it onto the MGTOWs/MRAs in shitty web comics like pic related. Hell, if it wasn't for those oh so subtle posters in the background you'd think it was depicting a nu-male white knight.
>>69310575
i dont know much about them, but like the idea.
divorce rate is like 60% in this country, if thats not an indication that this shit aint working then i dont know what is
>>69313151
The only man cucking you when you get a woman is yourself.
>>69312972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BaJY9uszXM
Putting a label on it and calling it a movement is why MGTOW is retarded. Ignoring whores and focusing on yourself is admirable, but turning it into a whiny movement where it's obvious a lot of the followers want girlfriends and shit but pretend they don't is not
>>69313301
A stable marriage and family IS proper validation for the existence of most people and that isn't a bad thing. It is how we have a prerogative to propagate enough to keep other tribes from winning the demography war and exterminating us.
I don't personally care on an individual to individual basis if a man is a faggot or too scared to touch a woman or if a female ends up a dried up cat-loving spinster but don't make a movement and try to convert people to your cause for you own sense of self-satisfaction. Its degeneracy.
>>69313734
>leaf logic
Not even surprised.
>>69313025
It is beta because betas use sluts as a way to validate themselves
OOOH LOOK AT ME I FUCKED 200 GIRLS LAST NIGHT BRAH.
>>69313301
We manwhores stop caring after highschool fucking to us is just like a boring job.
>>69313819
>A stable marriage and family IS proper validation for the existence of most people and that isn't a bad thing.
Of course that isn't a bad thing, but your line of reasoning seemed to be following a line where fucking women seemed to validate one's life, mostly since you used the plural "women". The goal is to get A woman and procreate, which is admirable.
29 year old virgin here
I could've had sex with hundreds of different women but I chose not to because I could tell they weren't virgins
When I find a virgin 18 year old I will have sex
>>69312617
See
>>69312668
MGTOWs seem to be guys who had a bad marriage, or relationship mainly. I don't hold any grudge against them, it's just I see a lot of people lumping virgins like me in with them. MGTOWs are a lot more well adjusted.
>>69311593
It's mixed. There are those who are divorced, fuck but never commit, and those who just don't get involved at all.
>>69314604
Don't let it ruin your life. I've had sex. It's okay, but I'd rather play video games. At least I can shut those off when I don't want to play anymore.
>>69314267
Excuse me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that MGTOW was specifically an avoidance of committing to a relationship or marriage with women, but allowing for "pump and dump" degenerate behavior (but who are we kidding if casual sex was on the table they wouldn't be MGTOW)
See all women as man's enemy is some bullshit white ingroup fighting probably propagated by the Jews in some manner or another.
White men and women need to unite for a common cause. There are beta cucks and empowered whores and they have leftist cultural marxism in common. There is a silent minority of good white women (or potential converts) out there that NEED the alt-right to allow into the fold.
You cannot take back the country and restore the white race as a bunch of circle-jerking asexual men.
>>69315173
I don't know if that's what it means or not. I don't really care about groups for things since I'm a loner. I hope that's not what it means because that's dumb as fuck and I'm glad I don't fall in that category.
>You cannot take back the country and restore the white race as a bunch of circle-jerking asexual men.
If the war started tomorrow, they could at least be cannon fodder.
>>69315034
Thanks. To be honest I have a whole host of issues besides my virginity. I suppose I can always just pay a hooker if I ever feel like it.
>>69310575
MGTOW began as a simplistic reaction to the extreme self-entitlement and hypergamy we've seen in the western female.
Now it has evolved into a set of ideas that attempt to explain the human condition keeping gender dynamics and reproductive tactics in mind.
It's pretty based, and literally only ignorant shills are opposed to it.
Here are some of the best channels related to this topic.
Thinking-Ape
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQ/videos
CS MGTOW
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAl43drJKetBdC4konDarOQ/videos
Coltaine
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX1GkAJdz_WF5Vyc2xUxZZw/videos
It is clear that /pol/ does not understand the concept of MGTOW.
>>69310575
Fixed your image, OP.
>>69310575
Who gives a fuck.
If you want to socialise go circlejerk with the mra and the others traditionalist fags.
>>69310575
MRA are retarded faggots to the extreme.
MGTOW has the right idea, but it's completely destructive.
There really is no solution and enjoying the decline is the best of all options.
>>69316110
This its a response from divorced guys receiving the redpill on women not virginfags who cant get women. This whole MGTOW is virgin crap is white knight logic as they cant seem to fathom that the female gender is messed up at all. Infact its their fault this happened in the first place.
>>69316513
>mra
Controlled opposition. Even their name contains the mirror image of a feminist fallacy (what RIGHTS problem is there between the genders? none!)
MGTOW is the actual opposition because it doesn't even make sense through a feminist lens. Men are supposed to be sex-crazed idiots according to feminism.
Men getting their own wives is better tbqph
>>69313877
No. Women are attractive and I like to dominate them with my big cock.
>>69311093
this guy gets it
>>69310575
Omegas pretending they have options
>>69310575
>NRA poster
As fucking if. NRA members are rednecks who fuck like rabbits. Yet again, liberals just heap every quality they hate onto a single bogeyman regardless of how they contradict each other.
Oh fuck, I read that as MtG. I thought this was gonna be a thread talking about how sad Magix players are.
>>69318554
you should get your autism checked out by a doctor
I mean I'm probably going to be a bachelor for life, or only have relationships but never cohabitate
but MGTOW is probably the pinnacle of autism
>>69311093
Yep.
>>69318642
Magicfag detected.
>>69319282
yeah totally bro, i have been enjoying a game i have never even heard of for ages now.
>>69310575
>tfw you're a gun-toting MRA brony who plays rape games
>and you're married with children
>>69310575
Seems like an AWFUL LOT OF JEWS in charge of the MGTOW crowd.
Just like the alt-right, turns out every big alt-right youtube celebrity's a Jew too.
The only way to truly be a man is to go your own way.
The true spirit of the male gender is power, self reliance and independence.
Anyone who says otherwise is merely a slave who enjoys their bondage.
Be careful who you converse with on this subject. It's a waste of time and energy to argue with willing slaves. Let them remain in bondage.
>>69320383
>Seems like an AWFUL LOT OF JEWS in charge of the MGTOW crowd.
Yeah, this false flag doesn't work.
Jewish lawyers love the billion dollar divorce industry. That's right, it's a billion dollar industry.
The purpose of this industry is to destroy the traditional family unit, make whores of women (which most of them are already), to transfer money and power to females, and to make debt slaves of men forever.
All for the profit of Jewish lawyers.
>>69320383
Wait, really? I hope you don't mean the Daily Shoa crowd as well.
>>69310996
When society deems men worthless and expendable what are they supposed to think?
>>69310575
Just remove the NRA and the picture is good.
>>69310575
If that comic is supposed to be a MGTOW faggot why would he be wondering that he is still single? That whole idea is centered around not being in a relationship.
the male version of feminists and the reaction to feminism that the creators of feminism where aiming for (make both genders hate each other so that white people dont reproduce).
>>69320383
Who?
The important ones are a Dominican and a half-hungarian(i think) ex-newyorker in germany.
>>69310996
As an alt-right woman I 100% agree. Women need guidance from the men that take the path towards a better way of life. It wont be all women and it might take a while but you can both assert that women are children in need of patronage and direction in life while simultaneous giving up on them because they were tricked by Jews and hurt your feelings.
>>69322106
They are supposed to uncuck themselves like real men and set an example for others to follow. Only an angry child and/or females throw a tantrum on the floor and hold their breath until they pass out.
>>69321976
Just legalize honor killings and all of this stupid bullshit goes away.
In all seriousness though, I have to imagine there's the kind of person that tries to take memes into real life whose going to be a virgin forever regardless, and just happened to key in on MGTOW. It's stupid as hell.
Just don't be a faggot and you'll be fine. That's the golden rule.
>>69316475
nice
*tips fedora*
>>69322746
>implying honor killings have any place in white Christendom
>implying whites need retarded self-effacing measures like this once the races are segregated again and Jews are expunged
Go to bed Mohammad.
>>69311657
>men taking power back from women
By never being around women.
That's just as retarded and autistic as 'militant feminism'.
>>69311883
>making things happen
They are the autists beating off to mlp and trannies.
How to stop controlling women who feed off a man and try to take everything?
Not being a faggot beta.
But mgtow are far beyond betas. They're 'men' who literally cuck themselves.
At a time when the white race is dying out due to low births and general faggotry, they should be put against the wall with the rest of the problems.
>>69323562
>At a time when the white race is dying out due to low births and general faggotry
I think we need to meme harems for white males into legality.
>>69315034
>Don't let it ruin your life. I've had sex. It's okay, but I'd rather play video games
What if it's not so much no getting sex, although that can be frustrating, but that no woman wants anything to do with you? Trying to deal with how unattractive I am is the hardest part.
>>69313151
>historically everything man has done has been for women and a stable future for his children
There is no such thing as a stable future anymore. These are the facts whether you like it or not.
>by opting out you are getting cucked
Even if you were to try to make it work, women have more to gain by throwing you away and your kids will end up as losers if they are white boys because the system is still punishing them for their then grandparents and race mixing whores if they are girls because it's racist not to fuck people outside your race.
Not to mention the facts regarding the future racial composition of any western country in the future, the destruction of the middle class, the end of the welfare state for everyone other than brown people and women, the end of retirement and the generational rape currently taking place.
Sadly, MGTOW is the future. Even the most alpha chad will end up getting burned sooner or later.
I agree with mgtow on most things like marriage to women in the current system being an absolutely horrific deal and not wasting your resources on a women for no tangiable gain and women being the inferior gender but the fact that so many autistic involuntarily celibates have made it into a movment rather than just an idea or community makes me warry of identifying as a MGTOW, as the concept of a mgtow movment goes entirely against the concept of men's financial social and idealogical individualism, which is what I though the core idea was. It also should be noted that mgtow don't neccesarily swear off women, just marriage and cohabitation if my understanding is correct, as it is the primary form of social and economic subservience men place upon them selves.
I suppose though I am technically a mgtow as I have no intention to ever cohabitate with or marry a women in the future, simply because the entire point of marriage was subservience sex and children in exchange for social and financial support, however women are not obligated to provide a husband with any of these anymore and are entitled to your resources for the rest of their lives even in the case of divorce. There simply is no motivation for me to take that deal.
Mgtow does go totally contrary to leftist idealogy but rejects collectivism on general, meaning white nationalism and other popular ideas on pol are also rejected. I suppose it leans more towards pols libertarian camp then the nationalist camp
![798[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/cb0xhnY.png "798[2].png")
>>69310575
That picture, or rather the person who drew it, is precisely why I identify as MGTOW.
>MRAs are depicted as on par with gun nuts and something negative rather than the natural counterpart to a feminized society
MRAs are noble, but inherrently their struggle is futile. They struggle against the law, not realizing that their beef is not with the letter of the law but those who made it what it is: women, or rather female nature.
Also, notice that the guy asks himself why he's single. If you start thinking from point zero and throw all a priori assumptions (like "I'm worthless unless a woman shows interest in me") out of the window, you find yourself asking "why shouldn't I be single?". To this very day I haven't found a satisfying answer.
>Inb4 le cuck maymay
>>69312277
Because focusing your life on sexuality is the most base and animal existence imaginable.
Women are generally incapable of being interesting human beings or good people and the urge to create children is ultimately one that leads only to self sacrifice and sorrow, particularly now when the children essentially belong to the mother and can be wrenched form you as soon as they desire.
Propgation of your genes is animal. In my opinion we should be focused on achieving transhumanism. We should desire to break our biological limitations and become a society that dosent destroy itself feeding non contributors like women that can freely develop its science and culture.
>>69326012
I've noticed the primary argument tactic used by very anti MRA or Mgtow sorts is simply shame. The only thing people tend to say is "how pathetic a failure to conform to social norms" never a refustion of their ideas.
>>69311934
Amen.
Oregonians:
http://www.oregonfirearms.org/who-we-are
>>69326674
>I've noticed the primary argument tactic used by very anti MRA or Mgtow sorts is simply shame.
Shame and the promise of withholding sex ("no wonder why you're a virgin", "you'll never get laid" etc.). Subconciously women are aware that their warm holes are the only thing they have to offer to men.
>>69310575
So Liberals see Marriage as oppressive yet hate men who don't want to marry?
So Women only want Chads yet get angry When Non Chads give up?
So women like SELF made Chads and hate "Clingy" Men yet Wonder why Men aren't Marriage minded nowdays?
>>69310575
/pol/s view on women is either
>muh mgtow, women are stupid, we should all ignore them and die alone haha stupid girls please kill me
or
>marry the first stupid christian/nonwhite girl you see for muh traditional morals and get cucked like a retard because i cant get laid without signing my life away for it but im too stupid to buy a prostitute
with nothing in between
These people are fucked
>>69327877
>with nothing in between
What IS there in between other than self-contradiction?
>Women are too shitty to get married to, but somehow good enough to be loyal in a non-legal relationship that is often common law marriage anyway
>>69310575
>Rape Sim 7
>>69313734
>The only man cucking you when you get a woman is yourself.
Yeah no nevermind the law that says moving in with a girl in canada entitles her to alimony, its all your fault, cuck, dont change anything, you deserve to die alone if you cant hold a bitch down when she can leave you and steal half your shit
It pretty much just means you're not a beta cuck who lets pussy step all over you.
Why does this need a name and some big movement, real men are doing this for decades already without needing to draw attention to it.
>>69316724
There is literally no fucking reason you shouldnt date and fuck women as long as you're not investing money in them
But you people act like its evil to fuck women, and then i bet half of you end up giving up and turn around and marry the first stupid bitch who you think is traditional because of one quality or another like her not being white or her being religious
The fuck is wrong with you niggers
>>69327936
Are you people fucking retards?
You dont have to fucking marry women to fuck them. You dont have to pay for a bunch of expensive dinners.
The only fucking thing you retards have to worry about is having a girl move in with you for years IF you're in a retarded state/country that considers cohabitation as common marriage or whatever the fuck because then shes entitled to alimony
Seriously what in the everloving fuck happened to you people that made you think you have to either sign away your entire fucking life to a woman or die alone?
>>69328268
>ignoring women completely means you're not a beta cuck who lets women step all over you
Or that you're such a beta cuck you couldnt get one any other way, and pretend like its your choice to be totally alone when plenty of people can fuck women without being used
>>69328393
>plenty of people can fuck women without being used
But this is literally it.
You fuck women without committing and carry on with your own life.
>>69310575
stupid
i literally have no strings attached sex at least once a week
no effort on my part
tall, in shape, dress well, confident and assertive
mgtow are losers who masturbate
>>69328292
>You dont have to fucking marry women to fuck them. You dont have to pay for a bunch of expensive dinners.
Sooner or later they'll start withholding your "rewards". Sex to women is nothing more than an exchange. If you don't marry them and don't pay for their shit, don't be surprised if they move on to a man who does.
Once again, the fight isn't against the law (though the law certainly doesn't help): it's against female nature.
>Seriously what in the everloving fuck happened to you people that made you think you have to either sign away your entire fucking life to a woman or die alone?
Feminism happened. Social and legal change in the past 60 years happened. Female nature happened, or rather was allowed to flousih in the absence of social and legal checks to it.
>>69328459
i get a totally different impression from a lot of people who think they define mgtow i guess then
>>69328531
Like said many times already in this thread, the movement attracts incels who rationalize their failures with this.
>>69311934
I can agree with this. The Second Amendment Foundation is relentless in their cause of protecting the Constitutional rights of Americans to keep and bear arms. They are far more relentless and perhaps successful than the NRA.
But leftist retards continue to single out the NRA.
>>69320383
Even if there are, isn't this just natural behaviour for them?
Quite a lot of them after all, do genuinely see themselves as victims, so it's only natural that a group like MGTOW would genuinely appeal to the lot of them.
>>69320383
>Seems like an AWFUL LOT OF JEWS in charge of the MGTOW crowd.
There's an awful lot of Jews in charge of the feminist crowd too. Either Jews naturally end up in charge due to having incredibly high IQs or they're playing both sides of the board.
>>69321976
>Jewish lawyers love the billion dollar divorce industry. That's right, it's a billion dollar industry.
Correction: Jews are playing LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE SIDE of the board. Pretty sure that with enough digging, I can figure out why being a white nationalist somehow makes you a good goy too.
Just think for yourself for a change and don't worry what side the jews are on because chances are they're on the other side too.
>>69310575
>schmorky on feminized shutin neets who have never held a job or a woman in their entire life
What a fucking hypocrite. I am actually a little bit angry at his lack of self-awareness.
MGTOW is absolutely pointless. The entire concept revolves around men refusing to have relationships and start families in order to cause some kind of system collapse. But it's already clear that if they do that, then the government will just import shitskins from the third world who WILL fuck their women instead.
Utterly pointless movement and label.
>>69311304
see
>>69311934
Give your money to your state's Firearms Federation or equivalent. >>69326783
>>69330029
>The entire concept revolves around men refusing to have relationships and start families in order to cause some kind of system collapse.
Depends. Some people like TurdFlingingMonkey actually have a system collapse in mind, while others simply avoid women because they know nothing good comes from it.
Call it "utterly pointless" but what do you propose? That men simply keep marching into a system that exists purely to exploit and devour them in the name of female interests?
You're pretty much saying that because resistance doesn't work, we might as well self-flaggelate.
>>69311093
this
>>69330177
Well if you actually wanted to change something you'd organize and violently overthrow the government instead of spamming "tfw no gf" on /r9k/ and fapping to anime.
Besides, I believe that even if divorce is guaranteed, white men should absolutely destroy their lives in marriage in order to produce white children. Just man the fuck up.
>>69310575
more like Whites Giving Their Pussy Away
>>69330327
Mgtow is not a political movment seeking to change the system. That'd be MRAs and their ilk. Mgtow is opting out of the system.
And holy shit you're retarded if you think single mothered white kids will be anything but worthless numales and whores. White nationalism can only work if we have functioning family units.
>>69330327
>Well if you actually wanted to change something you'd organize and violently overthrow the government
Go ahead, give us a plan. You know that a revolution requires a certain amount of supporters, right? Hence the "societal collapse" MGTOW: they know that to cause societal collapse only a few men need to say "no". For a revolution you need a majority or at the very least a very significant minority: numbers we don't have because too many men are bluepilled.
But if you want to run up to the white house and get gunned down without changing anything, be my guest.
>>69330516
Suprisingly pro bait
Incredibly well crafted imported from Australia bait.
>>69311934
>>69328823
>>69330130
>paying for lobbyists
>>69310575
It makes me feel really sad for Western men who don't act like normies have to group themselves up together and form a hugbox like that. pathetic really
>>69330563
>they know that to cause societal collapse only a few men need to say "no"
Objectively false. If a few men say "no", then they will be replaced by mohammed who is more than happy to fuck the girls you could have been fucking.
>>69310737
You mean squating ?
Its not my own way my dziewczyna alows me to hang out with my friends
>>69310737
That name sounds so gay
How are they not even ashamed of just that? As if being loud about never getting laid was not enough
Is MGTOW going to be a big thing?
I'm actually scared :/
>>69330563
Also, if the final goal of mgtow is to create a system that values the family unit and fathers, then it would make far more sense to create a movement that aims to do explicitly that instead of some roundabout way of breaking the system.
Poor choice, I work with some people who where MGTOW before the internet existed, they are just as miserable as cat ladies.
The proper think is to just ignore whores/feminists and try really hard to find traditional women. It's hard but just remember is the pain gets too much there is always asians.
>>69330991
>there is always asians.
FARM
THE
RICE
PAY
THE
PRICE
>>69330638
>Objectively false. If a few men say "no", then they will be replaced by mohammed who is more than happy to fuck the girls you could have been fucking.
And what happens then? Women will come crawling back to men, and men will keep saying "no". We already see this happening in Germany, which will not exist in its current form 40 years from now.
>>69330839
>then it would make far more sense to create a movement that aims to do explicitly that
Come up with a plan. Because as far as I'm concerned, that option went out of the window with the introduction of female suffrage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw
>>69310575
The definition of sour grapes. Ugly omega male betacucks who couldn't get laid in the first place have created an entire movement to justify their sexual incompetence.
The very few MGTOWs who are legit non permavirgins and were raped by the family courts are just misguided
Vid related typical MGTOW cuck autist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey2iGAzQDc4
>>69311093
This
>>69310575
Men giving up on and checking out of society
People itt get overtly angry about it cause memes
I don't know it's just another sign that the West is declining
Most people get pissy at it because they're children and don't understand that the West is not savable
These guys are a constant reminder of that
Sluts can at least be saved but once a guy has decided to back out of the social contract (marriage and family) it takes too much effort to save him
The only thing that's truly annoying about them is the Reddit tier bullshit that surrounds them
No need to become fucking activists
At least at their core they understand the West is fucked
Anyway if you're not married and with kids and have no plans to be you're effectively an mgtow
>>69310575
Why they gotta come down on guns also?
>>69310575
A term/phrase used in a very incorrect context. The way it sounds is dudes being successful through self-sufficiency, but it's a circlejerk of keyboard warriors who cannot get laid and try to justify it much like feminists.
![91ra7f6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8ycEOlv.jpg "91ra7f6[1].jpg")
>>69331220
>>69331397
tumblr called, they want their """""arguments""""" back.
>>69331460
You realise that MGTOW is a reddit movement right? Go back there pathetic losers are not welcome on /pol/. We believe in masculinity and traditional values here take that cringy cancerous virgin crap to r/redpill
the real red pill
>>69310656
Machinegun; Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided
Has to be some new kind of futuristic hybrid gear from those two. Haven't seen it in action yet... doubt it'll work as intended...
>>69331564
>A movement is bad by virtue of association with something bad
/pol/ of all places should know how retarded this reasoning is.
>We believe in masculinity and traditional values
And by enforcing this without enforcing femininity, chastity and a lack of women's voting rights you're proving yourself to be just feminists by another name. If you do support all those things however, you're only proving yourself to be an unviable ideology in a society that has female suffrage already.
>>69310575
Male Feminist analogs.
Bitter, hateful people who just want to be loved, but are otherwise full of unredeeming qualities.
>>69310575
like all internet gender war retards they are projecting their own parents shitty relationship onto the rest of the world
>>69331817
You sound like a typical betacuck who cannot control women lel.
Is it degenerate/wrong to want to live my unattached, but eventually adopt a child?
>>69328268
Meh it's a bit more than that
Marriage rates are at the lowest they've ever been and men are always blamed for this
It makes sense that some form of victim group would form
Not to mention I think it just started as an internet group talking about how trash women are
It just blew up is all
Most of what they say I'm sure most people here agree with at some level
Unless you think modern women aren't whores or are mother material? Unless you think women and men are actually equals?
The only thing that bothers me about them is the cringey victims
I honestly don't get the hate
Especially when people here love those cringey as fuck YouTube videos of crazy pastors and such yelling at college kids
>>69331564
No one believes anything here
Besides it's cucky and cringey as fuck to treat modern women as anything other than fucktoys
>>69312400
Oh Jesus fuck you memester. It hasn't even been around that long. Your a 27 yo virgin for other reasons
>>69312400
>abstinence
Who told you that meme?
My main thoughts on MGTOWs
- It's hard for me to fathom how a man can live like that and be happy but if you are truly happy doing it then you aren't exactly hurting anyone so have at it.
- There's the MGTOWs who do it because that's what makes them happy, and then there's the MGTOWs who do it because they think modern women will eventually see the error of their ways and come crawling back, ready to be good wives. To them I would say keep dreaming, your movement is a few billion members short of making that kind of impact.
- And then there's MGTOWs who are ugly as sin and generally undateable, so announcing that they've liberated themselves from the soul-crushing ways of women sounds a lot like the Fox declaring that he no longer wants the grapes. But again, if they're truly happy that way, more power to them.
I guess you could call me MGTOW. I don't know whether my life is possible for others, I'm 31yo khv and my life is wonderful. I learnt to throw my passion into a constant state of mental expansion (I'm not claiming I'm a genius here, simply that I'm always doing what little I can to learn more in different ways). I don't fap or view porn anymore and I feel amazing. I don't feel bitter towards women (though I don't think feeling bitter towards them is unjustified), I simply avoid them and live my own life. It IS possible.
The most interesting thing for me is how males are so embarrassed and so desperate to distance themselves from MGTOW because of the perceived "emotional weakness" of the men who are part of the 'online community'. Yes, there are certainly some MGTOW's who seem to be bitter about things, who seem hurt, and who seem like they're playing games (one thing I hate is guys who talk about a 'marriage strike', mostly because that's as blue-pilled as you can get, thinking that it could ever work) - but these guys are a minority in the movement. It's just incredible the desperation of males to distance themselves from these perceived 'broken males'. It shows how weak male self-esteem really is, and how easily manipulated and terrified of women men really are - that they're so terrified of being classed as "MRA" or "MGTOW".
>>69310575
beta fat virgin cucks
>>69312400
It's been around a few years tops
>>69331310
It's the social contract that is broken. Essentially, provisioning for women by men in return for sex and raising the children. That was broken a long time ago by women, collectively, when they declared in the 60s that they were under oppression by the patriarchy and needed to be free of the contract. Combine that attitude with no-fault divorce, and it spells OVER.
It took longer for men to realize that since the social contract was broken (and beyond repair) that men were also free from the obligations of the social contract. They didn't have to get married or have kids, and that didn't negatively effect their career prospects, and it was no longer gay stigma.
MGTOW, whatever you want to call it, is a loose collective of guys who are happy to be free of the social contract, and are living their lives doing whatever the fuck they want.
Some MGTOW are virgin faggots and would ditch the whole lifestyle for a steady girlfriend, even a warpig.
Some got burt by divorce and just said 'never again'.
Some are regular guys who make good money and have no problem getting laid or a GF, and simply choose to stay away from bitches... usually because they've fucked enough of them to realize they are all the same, and bring in too much drama and risk to their lives.
Anglos are behind MGTOW to prevent US Aryans from breeding
>>69332444
How can you be happy without love companionship and sex? You are just missing out a very big important aspect of life.
>>69332599
>How can you be happy without love companionship and sex?
As a 31yo male in Australia, there's literally nowhere I could find meaningful compansionship and love. Every woman my age has been with other guys already, most of these women are materialistic and have their 'needs' which would mean pressure for me to work more to provide them. It's not worth it.
>>69310575
I was naturally MGTOW until I turned 27. Women always wanted me to go away, so I guess I went my own way. Got a masters degree and a nice career out of those monk years. I've been in a relationship for 4 years now and want to kill myself for a number of reasons. I feel like a caged bird with this nagging emotionally unstable control freak.
>>69332157
It's not an abstinence group though
Remember that
The autists might make it look like that but the core of MGTOW thought is:
Modern women are trash
They are not worthy of being dated
Stay away from them
Fuck the sluts if you want but don't develop feelings
Marriage is for losers and is going to fail always
I find a lot of people have these thoughts even if they don't describe themselves as MGTOWs (especially here)
The group started mainly as a group of divorcees talking trash about women and living their lives
Honestly this board shares a lot of similar core thought with these guys, PUAs, and MRAs
/pol/ is better though cause they ain't faggots
>>69332599
You know how rare a good woman is? I think in my life I've met one
I ain't gonna settle down with some slut that rode the cock carousel her whole life and then decided that she needed something stable and secure so she latches onto me
I'm just gonna pump and dump her since that is all she is good for
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>>69310575
MGTOW is code word for white genocide
>>69311975
Kek'd
>>69331852
>Bitter, hateful
we call that virgin shaming here. slut shaming is on /r9k/ I believe.
>>69332743
>Every woman my age has been with other guys
If you wanted a virgin gf you should have thought about it in high school or university.
> most of these women are materialistic and have their 'needs' which would mean pressure for me to work more to provide them
That's so unrealistic and exaggerated are you sure you are 31 you sound very immature with a very warped view of how the real world works.
>>69310575
i was rised like that, now im a neet, going to die like a hobo
good life
>>69332878
>muh race
>muh legacy
threadly reminder that your ancestors are literally cuckold faggots for bringing another poor soul in this world of pain and suffering.
>>69327660
>>>69310575 (OP)
>So Liberals see Marriage as oppressive yet hate men who don't want to marry?
>So Women only want Chads yet get angry When Non Chads give up?
>So women like SELF made Chads and hate "Clingy" Men yet Wonder why Men aren't Marriage minded nowdays?
yup, you got the woman's mindset all figured out.
>>69332806
>I ain't gonna settle down with some slut that rode the cock carousel her whole life and then decided that she needed something stable and secure so she latches onto me
Fuck off with those lame r9k memes you sound like a turboautist. r9k memes and infographics don't reflect real life stop being cringy and embarassing.
>>69332985
>If you wanted a virgin gf you should have thought about it in high school or university.
I can't. age of consent told me that I cannot hit on girls because they cannot fucking consent.
fast forward to 18 y/o and all I'm seeing are sluts and old hags.
But I should thank age of consent though, for pretty ironic reasons. Thanks to age of consent I am living the super single lifestyle. not cucked by annoying OLD HAGS or annoying attention whores that would divorce rape alimoney me anyway. If there's one thing women did right, it is AoC.
AoC btw, is approved and authorized by old hags who want to remove young teen pussy from the competition of the alpha male.
>>69322452
>Women need guidance from the men that take the path towards a better way of life.
dispensing that guidance is seen as abuse and hate speech and will have you censored or even imprisoned. Until the government and law enforcement stop being abused by women no change can occur.
>>69310575
Men should get women who are worthy. Being single is the only other option. Of course, being a degenerate is not the way to go either.
Don't punish yourself for things out of your control.
>>69333097
>r9k memes and infographics
what is birth of meme?
>>69332985
>virgins
>university
Come on lad
>>69333097
>2002, 2006-2008
Oh please
Yeah cause women definitely would never lie about sexual partners
If she's a woman who goes out "dancing" she's a slut and has taken multiple dicks
Hint: the majority of women go out dancing
Why are you so defendant of women?
Fucking white knights I swear
They aren't gonna magically turn into good people if you keep wishing long enough
>>69333234
>age of consent told me that I cannot hit on girls because they cannot fucking consent
AoC laws only apply if one partner is an adult you stupid idiot. When you were in high school why didn't you get a virgin gf from your class? Also there are plenty of 19-20 year old virgin girls.
>>69333413
/r9k/ memes =/= reality
>>69332985
This. Men who want virgin women are misogynistic scum.
>>69333097
>anti r9k pic
kek
Your image is only 'evidence' for willing cucks. You're quoting a SURVEY, women do not respond honestly to these and neither do men. There have even been studies SHOWING SPECIFICALLY that women lie about their numbers. The 'survey' covers years up to 44, and the mean number still comes out as 3??? It doesn't make much moral difference for once girl to have 3 and another 10; it makes a huge difference for a girl to have 0 and to have 1. The source is the US too, are you aware that something like 50% of mothers under 30 in the US are single mothers or as good as??
>>69333234
This. AoC was implemented by hysterical, LITERALLY insane feminist christians. It essentially outlaws any functional marriage because MOST girls lose their virginity under 18\16, and men above this age are essentially excluded from functional lifetime relationships with girls that age. Males who ignore the AoC laws can end up in prison. Feminists subsidise female sexuality while outlawing male sexuality.
>>69310575
They're the same ones who cry and wring their hands about ""my white genocide "" and then do nothing about it. Fuck'em. They remind me of feminists.
>>69333446
don't blame me, I never knew that anything higher than 17 is considered an old hag to me.
and besides, now that I think about it, nature made it clear that she can breed once she bleeds. AoC is nothing more than human ignorance at an attempt to rebel nature.
>>69333601
>Men who want virgin women are misogynistic scum.
Let me guess. Women who want virgin men are strong independent women right?
>>69333723
>Women who want virgin men are strong independent women right?
Top fucking kek.
>PINOYS
There are no women who want virgin men, because virgin men are always MRA misogynist.
>>69333668
Oh look the virgin is also pedophile who wants to groom teenagers. Let me guess you also watch anime.
>>69333640
>feminist
>christians
does not compute. I've googled it, but the Bible doesn't say anything about pedo-ism.
>>69333788
I believe I am acting naturally. Or wait, is that it, are you attracted to OLD HAGS?
kill yourself grandpa.
>>69333799
I'm not saying it does. I don't know about the Philippines, but in the UK, US, Australia and probably Canada - the people who established AoC laws (before this the common law default was 12 years old or so) were all part of an international feminist movement known as the "social purity" movement, sometimes referred to as proto-feminism (nobody denies that it was openly and stridently feminist - that was its main characteristic. This movement gave birth to groups like the Woman's Christian Temperance Union, which brought in prohibition.
The same feminist 'christians' who brought in AoC also brought in policies like banning homosexuality, gender segregating prisons (a policy that's still in place and which has killed tens of thousands of men), etc.
>>69333871
Hey you fucking creepy weido teenage girls find you just as repulsive as women your own age.
>AoC laws is why I am a virgin!!!
Again if having a virgin gf/wife is so important to you you should have done something about it in high school or university.
>Waah society won't let me groom and rape teenagers!!
Pathetic weirdo kill yourself
>>69334045
>This movement gave birth to groups like the Woman's Christian Temperance Union
then they're not Christians. Even worse, they taint the good name of the LORD by claiming they are Christians yet they do not follow the words of the LORD. They just wanna use the LORD'S name in their own interest.
>>69334055
>being this mad
>doesn't deny his fetish goes to OLD HAGS
grandpa you have to go back.
>>69332806
>It's not an abstinence group though
I didn't say it was.
Though, for many MGTOWs, yeah it really is. See: >>69331220
>>69310575
basically the male version of political lesbian feminists
>>69334045
AoC laws were a response to underage prostitution in the late 19th century. They are not even a big deal unless you are some kind of weirdo pedophile who wants to groom kids.
>>69334338
it would be even weirder if your target range goes to OLD HAGS
admit that you're just an OLD HAG who want to remove prime teen pussy away from the competition for the alpha male.
>>69334440
You sound triggered as fuck. Also the AoC in Phillipines is literally 12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia#Philippines
Is this too old for you you disgusting creepy autist?
>>69334055
>Again if having a virgin gf/wife is so important to you you should have done something about it in high school or university.
It doesn't sound like you have much experience with women. Most girls that age are very much interested in OLDER guys. In fact it's common for girls that age to be openly hooking up with guys above that age, these are the men who are willing to break the law and hope they don't get caught, and most don't get caught - but the fact that they're not doing anything immoral and are subject to a sexist, insane law says a lot. But this also means that men who are above 18 and who fear the law cannot 'marry' a girl of 16 or younger (or in some states in the US younger than 18). Good men are essentially forced to stand back and watch as girls are either sleeping with men who disregard the AoC laws and take on the risk, or to break the law themselves either under that age or over that age (when they have more opportunity). Do you see how this works? It means most girls are already on the 'cock carousel' before their legally marriagable.
>>69334338
>AoC laws were a response to underage prostitution in the late 19th century.
This is the sanitised, manipulative 'Ken Burns' way of putting it. In reality it was some deranged feminists obsessed with sex trying to treat men's freedom as something subject to her personal control issues.
>They are not even a big deal unless you are some kind of weirdo pedophile who wants to groom kids.
Men in their early 20's are REGULARLY brought before the courts and imprisoned for breaking these laws, for exercising their natural sexuality.
I think >>69334440 is right, you're a weirdo. Men like YOUTH, NEOTONY, INNOCENCE, especially if they're going to marry that.
>>69334596
More /r9k/ crap. 54% of White teenage women in Murica of all places are virgins. I had no problem getting laid in high school although you are right that the more slutty trashy girls had older boyfriends.
>Men like YOUTH, NEOTONY, INNOCENCE
Oh look the 31 year old virgin is also a pedophile. Cut down on the animu and /r9k/ you fucking retard you are 31 years old grow up already you pathetic trash manchild.
>>69334593
It was 18 at my time. also
>no internet
>cannot even fucking check
>I had absolutely no idea this was happening at my high school time.
>decided just not to fuck it so that I don't get fucked.
>>69334950
I'm disengaging from discussing anything with you, because you're only offering lame insults now.
>>69334970
>It was 18 at my time
AoC laws only apply when one partner is an adult. So no excuse here.
>decided just not to fuck it so that I don't get fucked.
Yeah I am sure you remained a virgin in highschool because you didn't want to get arrested for doing something completely legal. Something 7 in 10 men do by the time they turn 18.
>>69334950
>Cut down on the animu
> and /r9k/
>you fucking retard
> you are 31 years old
>grow up already you pathetic trash
> manchild.
all this butthurt.
just, please, fuck off grandpa. you have no more arguments to speak of.
>>69335176
>completely legal by insane OLD HAG feminists who want to remove young teen pussy from the alpha male competition.
fixed that for you.
>>69335119
k but before you leave AoC in most Australian states is 16. Go get your prime virgin teen pussy mr 31 year old virgin. What's stopping you?
It is surprising how shunned MGTOW lifestyle is here, must be the insane amount of pussycuck slaves who cannot absolutely live without slaving themselves to some used goods whore and then get fucked later for muh gibs.
I'd much rather make use of all the whores and just pump and dump, no strings attached, my life has gotten much more satisfying this way, just accept that it wont get any better from here on out on this issue.
>>69335277
no you're wrong brazilian anon-kun. /pol/ is just currently infested with tumblerinas now that they're feeling the sting of old age and wants us MGTOWers to basically "man up and marry that slut that would divorce rape alimoney you".
these tumberinas weren't that active in /pol/ a few months ago.
I can understand why men are doing it to be honest. Women are shit these days and are not worth the effort. Interacting with them feels like a job interview, it's not natural.
Also I know from interacting with women that they want men for what they can offer, not you who are and because this I avoid them as they want my money and looks.
Make money and enjoy yourself. Also get
an amazing career like a doctor, lawyer or engineer or something that you enjoy.
>>69310575
>MGTOW
>>69334055
Greece is my new favorite flag. Just like we're the progressives of Slav countries, Greece is the progressives of Turkish countries.
