Is this true?
No.
>>69303036
All it proves is that we don't care about characters being lesbians if it isn't shoved down our throats.
Also, I have no idea what part of the game is feminist.
I thought gamers were dead. Maybe not those gamers, I guess.
>>69303356
who was a lesbian?
>>69303036
Isn't this just tumblrmemes: the vidya?
I didn't bother playing it because the kind of people that like homestuck wouldn't stop talking about it, but wouldn't tell me anything useful.
>>69303505
The fish and the lizard.
I liked the quirky gameplay, the excellent music and the childlike characters. Then Dr. Alphys happened and it literally interrupts the game with her lesbian bullshit.
>>69303036
Undertale isn't feminist in the slightest.
These are the same kind of retards who keep saying Utena is feminist and is pro-LGBT, when one could argue it's the complete opposite of that.
>>69303505
undyne and alphys, the fish and the scientist. There was a subplot where you get them to hook up.
I hate the internet. All it did was give retards the ability to yell louder. Smart people are in aociety being productive and contributing to the economy of their country. Retards like this have too much time on their hands and spend their days "blogging" about irrelevant issues and do literally nothing to contribute to their country.
It proves that cucks love games where they are FORCED not to kill their enemies.
Especially...you know if they start to attack you.
No matter if the goat cunt did it because "tried to do what I wanted was best and I know best and thus im going to try to attack you, no matter if it may kill you or not, aslong as its low probability, its ok, its better than going outside."
That fucking egoistical stupid goat cunt deserved to die all. The game does not "let you" not kill monsters, it forces you, since you will get bad ending for killing monsters.
Even monsters who killed 6 small human Children and took their souls. That goat king.
Even in the "good" ending he does not get punished for killing small Children. No really. check it out on Youtube yourself.
The fact that "you shouldnt try to reload and to the anti cuck route and kill all the monsters, no more good ending for you permanently, that vague plot device character is inside you now forever!
..
...
Except Toby, the games retarded creator, didnt Count one that you can uninstall the game with a clean uninstall by not playingt he steam version and thus making said bullshit avoidable, and thus you can kill Everything and then restart just to see how it will end with no other consequences regardless of ending.
And no, there are no interesting or unique characters, they are stockcharacters that you just want to kill.
>>69303036
daily reminder that all video games, movies, TV, and internet '''''news''''' is jewish brainwashing trash.
how many non-fiction books have you read in the last month, /pol/?
>>69303036
No. Played the game, liked the concept, but it didn't change anything nor will it.
>>69303544
It's a game where you're encouraged not to kill the monsters who attack you, other than that there's nothing inherently tumblr about it.
Hating the fanbase isn't really a legitimate reason to dislike something.
>>69303036
No, it proves that no one cares about that shit. Only Tumblr cared about that faggoty shit.
>>69303036
Undertale faggots are the same faggots who watch SU. Fuck them all and fuck that fucking game
>>69303036
Fucking bullshit. I liked the game because the concept was interesting, the characters were entertaining, and the plot was nice.
>>69303036
>250k sales
this article is old, you're just digging up bait
http://steamspy.com/app/391540
>>69303036
Is that a demon next to her?
>>69303902
>nothing inherently tumblr about it
m8...
>>69303036
Honestly, Undertale just happened to have characters that were lesbians and some characters' genders were fairly ambiguous. SJWs are unable to view something that has anything like this without it being progressive or being self serving to their own agenda.
>>69303592
Also this. When I learned I couldn't kill Dr. Alphys in a genocide route, I decided there was no point in doing it at all.
>>69303036
Sure they can make their feminist videogames and stop polluting ours with their bullshit
Undertale didnt feel very feminist to me tho yeah there was a gay character but beeing gay has nothing to do with feminism which is about female surpremacy
>>69303902
>not killing monsters that attack you
As TrueDew says, if you kill your enemies, they've won.
>>69303036
The dev of this game put in lesbians because he thought yuri was cute, not for a political statement. He deliberately avoids SJW questions when people are interviewing him. All the game proved was that people don't get annoyed at all that shit when it's just there and not being focused on as WOW GAYS HOW PROGRESSIVE.
>>69304080
Not hearing an argument
I really liked the game but i don't see what the fuck they talk about, just because there are lesbians or gays in it doesn't mean that everyone who played it is a feminist.
plus undertale doesn't make any apology of lesbians gay or whatever they want you to believe, they are just there and there is nothing we can do about it just like in the real world. that doesn't mean we agree or are part of anything.
>>69303505
Also, the two royal guards were gay.
>>69304183
Found it.
>>69303036
There's about a thousand porn images of the goat mom character being drawn as curvy (left version). The main character is only gender ambiguous because the programmer couldn't be fucked to make a male/female selection, and tranny bullshit never comes up. Stop baiting us with this shit from months ago.
>>69303544
Rare?
why does gambling shanghai have a flag
>>69303861
Most people saw the neutral ending tho
I watched shenryyr2's stream and even he killed some despite trying not to
>>69303036
I don't think that the game is pushing any agenda in particular, other than its meta look at how gamers respond when given choices.
The fact that the main character is gender-neutral throughout the story is an understandable decision to not alienate anyone (game protagonists in the past were typically male for marketing purposes as Nintendo led the industry's crawl out of the garbage after the oversaturation of absolutely terrible games). As a result, the two "dates" that occur only technically has one same-sex coupling, but has other heterosexual couples as well.
Sure, the game has a great deal of social media influence, but the qualities of the characters are more important than any gender concepts, so what the game calls on gamers for is the understanding that your actions have consequences, and that the results of striving to be good are more satisfying than to make bad choices just because the option is there. I guess you can say that's progressive.
>>69303861
wut
>>69303036
>>>/v/
>>69303588
The lizard was crushing on Asgore. The fish is probably lesbian though, maybe bi too. Papyrus is gay for you based on how you play your gender neutral character.
Undertale was a flash in the pan, it's already becoming irrelevant and forgotten.
>>69304360
What a gross interview.
I'm glad the guy found success but holy shit, I hope he doesn't fall into the pit of self fellating "benevolent" liberalism for a buck.
>>69304311
>lesbian fish
>>69304615
you must not have paid very much attention while playing.
>>69303036
>lesbian characters
I'm totally fine with this, need more lesbian games.
>>69304025
Its less than 200.000, because the system both you and said website of OP are using are NOT taking into accoun the REFUNDS that you can after 2 hours.
After seeing the vomit ugly Graphics and even more boring dialogue and lack of gameplay, you can easely figure it out yourself.
But I slaughtered everyone.
has toby fox killed himself yet?
>>69303036
There are literally two dykes in the game. That's all. Veeeery progressive, never heard of that before.
>>69304360
Good on him for not even giving them the time of day for those retarded questions. Tumblr ruins everything good. Toby made an homage to a game series he loved and they came along and fucked it up.
>>69304685
Lesbians exist in real life. Simply having lesbians doesn't make a game tumblr
>>69303036
So if I were to make a shitty and poorly-made game filled with progressive themes, queer romance, and feminism, and everyone hated the game, would it prove that games hate those values?
>>69304917
Has Toby Fox literally never seen the internet?
>>69303036
It only proves autists are dumb enough to pay $15+ for a game made from assets ripped from much better SNES games that would have been a free RPG maker game a few years ago. The music was the only good thing about that game.
>>69303036
Gamers were always open to other genres...they just didn't want it forced down their throats and told they are racist/sexist if they don't like it
>>69304487
SJW trying to defend their gay agenda is not really suprising.
Leftist defending them being cucks are halfbreeds (since their parents most likely are SJW aswell) are still regressive.
>>69303036
>universal praise
Shit game
Cult following on the level of meme souls
>>69303036
gay people in undertale are treated in a comical fashion for the most part
I don't see why modern games can't have gay characters though. Obviously developers don't want to make their main characters gay due to problems with immersion. I'm not homophobic and I'm going to most likely think less of a game where the playable character is overtly gay, simply because the character is defined in a way that doesn't reflect my own personality. I've never liked sexuality in games, so that probably contributes to my opinion about a game with that type of character too I suppose
I'm just fine with feminists wanting to create games that fit their liking as long as they aren't trying to force other developers to change their game.
>>69303036
So every other game is proof that we're ready for games where you exterminate faggots for sucking dicks?
That's what she's saying?
>>69305173
Oh and its funny that tobys brother got attacked and slammed, so its kinda ironic that tobys cuck pacifist philosophy bullshit didnt work out for him.
>>69304805
Nips make good yuri games, Americans just shoehorn in fags and lesbos to get on the progressive train. Yuri pandering always comes off better than forced tokenism.
>>69305216
You do seem homocriticismphobic since you fear to criticise faggots or homosexuality.
>>69304360
Reminds me of whenever Steven Universe's creator gets hit by SJW questions. She usually gives a fluff "yes, representation is important" then quickly dodges the question.
>>69303036
Now I know to never play this game.
>>69305369
If the lesbians get raped or dominated int being fucked by a hetero male, sure.
then its fine, even better if they are cured of their disorder.
>>69304615
the fish lady and the lizard hook up in the "happy" ending
I know the gender is ambiguous but I always imagined Frisk and Chara as girls .
And for some reason, on my second play through , I really hated alphys. I don't know why it didn't bother me the first time . It's not that she's a lesbo, but that she's so fucking annoying . Just leave me alone !
>>69305286
the funny part about it is that the game only vaguely fits the ideals of feminism.
Feminists don't make video games, and very few of them even play. They just want to complain about stuff that men do.
>>69305128
the game is 10$ on steam and I'm pretty sure that was the release price. the game was developed by someone who made modifications of earthbound, so that's why it uses a near identical engine.
>>69303861
THIS.
The most interesting, philosophically deep, and intellectually compelling ending is the fucking genocide ending--yet that's the ending you're punished for pursuing.
>>69305182
except dark souls is actually good, fuck off retard redditor, your entire post was just meant to derail
>>69303613
>Utena couldn't become the prince
>Himemiya had to escape from Ohtori herself
The movie is bulldyke galore though
>>69303036
Undertale>>>trash
The game was alright, though I wouldn't be surprised if, say, the game were real and the fanbase were to raid the Underground in a massive assault rape orgy.
The game is full of infinite waifus.
>>69305420
I don't criticize gay people for being homosexual if that is what you mean. if they are trying to push their own agenda then I'll criticize it because I don't like when people use a medium intended for general audiences to influence others into thinking in a particular way. just having gay characters without saying anything about homosexuality isn't pushing an agenda in the same way the witcher 3 having heterosexual sex scenes isn't pushing an agenda. it is just a part of the established plot and no real commentary is being given.
>>69305495
This is just feminist propaganda and reappropriation, the game is really great if you like story driven rpg, there is really no feminism in this game
>>69305689
The game has assets ripped from Mother, Secret of Mana, FF6, and Chrono Trigger. It made tens of thousands on kikestarter before selling a single copy.
Games like Yume Nikki and even Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden were made in a similar fashion, but they were free, and they're arguably better games.
>>69303036
fucking undertale, i've seen it on steam, it has very high rating, but because of SJW posts about it i'm not gonna buy it!
>>69306025
Everyone is not equal in race, sex or belief.
In this case, normal would be better, since the homosexuality like trannies are an ilness.
>>69303036
Undertale is redpilled as fuck.
>if you fill yourself with LOVE you commit genocide
>>69306028
like >>69305495 said
and if you do end up wanting to get it, just pirate it
>>69306256
Those acronyms aren't the same as the literal words.
Also, LOVE wasn't the original term in the game. Flowey switches it up as soon as he mentions LV in order to try to make you vulnerable, but then it never gets re-corrected.
>>69304964
Royal guardsmen are dudebro homos.
>>69303036
I'd tap Frisk tbqh.
Game was fun but holy shit, it was like the second coming of MLP. At least the hype died after a few months.
I waited until last week to even play it, not paying any attention to its cancerous fanbase.
>>69306215
Normal would be better if it were possible to achieve a normal status in regards to gay people. There's no way to change someone's sexuality, only ways to suppress it. Gay people don't influence my life through their actions in any way, so I don't have any sort of problem with them.
I agree in regards to transgender people since they can never really be who they think they are. It is a mental illness due to the fact that their reproductive organs can't actually be changed and their genes can never be changed. Hormone therapy has to be maintained also, otherwise your body reverts back to the hormones produced before you started hormone therapy. You're always going to have whatever sex genes you had when your were conceived.
>>69303036
I've played a bit of it. The game is made in a mostly childish spirit; the occasional gay character is mostly comical and not part of any agenda I could pick up on.
The possibility of winning without killing anything doesn't mean you *should* play without killing anything. I guess that's kind of the fun of it. The genocide route is truly interesting. Probably one of the most thoughtful endings of any game I've played in a while.
Tumblr can make anything look cucked.
I'll bet even disgaea 5 sold more than 250k copies
>>69306733
>Gay people don't influence my life through their actions in any way, so I don't have any sort of problem with them.
Neither do transgender people, but you seem to have a problem with them regardless.
>>69306649
>everyone enjoys the demo
>game gets released
>everyone enjoys the game
>two weeks later undertale treads are trollbombed into oblivion
>/vg/ thread becomes typical /vg/ faggotry
Honestly it's amazing seeing it talked about without hundreds of shitposts.
I've been interested in it since it came out but after all the other shit that's sprung up as a result have really made me lose interest in ever playing it.
>>69306511
Flowey tricks you, though.
He tells you to help yourself before others, and he calls it LOVE.
Basically the same shit libtards do.
Maybe I shouldnt call it "redpilled" because it's probably unintentional. But it's interesting to see someone write a story and it end up teaching people:
"hey see that guy that tells you to LOVE everyone. yeah dont fucking trust him."
![jTj3MH7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FlLuYLd.jpg "jTj3MH7[1].jpg")
>>69307087
I didn't play it because of the fanbase. Literal cancer.
>>69306809
>the occasional gay character is mostly comical and not part of any agenda I could pick up on.
congrats, you managed to spot the push and deny it's existence in the same breath
>>69307161
The game is good and not feminism-in-your-face as game journalists make it seem.
Basically the success of the game was because it has very clever ways of breaking the fourth wall, not because tranny pandering.
Undertale's success proves that people will fap to anything.
>>69307421
I played and beat Undertale. I thought it was just a cute, fun little game. I didn't know it had this kind of disgusting following to it. I want to vomit.
When the final boss of the "good ending" route flies around with a fucking rainbow trail, count me out of ever playing this game. Ever.
>>69303036
People bought this shit? Hahaha damn talk about getting brainwashed by LP's (they are payed to shill dumbasses.)
>>69307642
this is just typical tumblr appropriation
>>69307611
I suppose its more a problem with me too. When I hear something be praised so much I become less interested in seeing it/playing it.
Like Bastion for example, I heard nothing but good things about it and when I finally did get around to playing it I was disappointed.
>>69307241
libtards don't try to kill me moments after they trick me, dumbass
![undertale_human_au_relationship_chart_by_nightween-d9hp438[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/dgY4prS.png "undertale_human_au_relationship_chart_by_nightween-d9hp438[1].png")
>>69307642
I think Toby Fox feels the same way desu
>>69303036
>feminist
lel
This game had lesbians, that was it. It's a great game and you'd be hard-pressed to find actual feminism in it.
>>69307241
Yeah, but then if you don't kill anyone, you get this gem:
"but you never gained any LOVE.
of course, that doesn't mean you're completely innocent or naive. It just that you kept a certain tenderness in your heart.
No matter the struggles or hardships you faced... you strived to do the right thing. You refused to hurt anyone. Even when you ran away, you did it with a smile.
You never gained LOVE, but you gained love."
LOVE is different than love. Flowey ends up being wrong no matter how the story ends, because he put stock in the thought that there's no point but to watch the world burn. If you choose to agree with him, he falls to his own ideals. If you disagree with him and find love, not only does he lose, but he's sent packing because he can't understand anything beyond his own desires. He can't really find love of any kind himself, so he is cursed to be unhappy.
You should love everyone, but you should also always be clever enough to see through those that want to do you harm.
>>69305810
>punished for pursuing.
Nah, the "permanent change" is barely noticeable. It's just a small nod to the fact that you've done the genocide run and that your actions can't ever be fully undone. I see the genocide run as an important part of the experience. I actually did it before doing the pacifist run.
tumblr: the game
>>69303036
Undertale proves that if you make a short, quality game, it will always be regarded to the long, shitty game. It's also got an underdog (heh) advantage being made by only one guy.
The fact that there's one homosexual couple (that contributes nothing to the plot whatsoever) doesn't prove it's success. It's also a small fandom that is just very active on the internet. It proves that a small minority cares alot about gay couples and other progressive topics.
>>69307518
The intention was more along the lines of "ha ha laugh at the faggot" than anything else.
>>69308368
But don't you see? By doing the genocide run, you change the ending of every pacifist run that you complete from then on. You are denied the happy ending forever because you've given your soul to a thing that will unmake the love that you've created.
It's about as /tumblr/ as Steven Universe is. It's not in-your-face directly tumblr, but there's a strong tumblr undertone.
>>69308368
But the "barely noticeable" change is still a perpetual change that, as you say, is indicative of actions that can't be undone (when certainly one's "good" actions can). This either means that the genocide run is meant to be the true final ending, or that Toby Fox, in spite of claiming that he supports no ending in particular, does indeed look down on the genocide ending.
>>69306081
In all honesty it's actually a good game. Just has a real shit fanbase.
>>69308482
A big part of it had to do with being the unholy crossing point of two very, very obsessive fanbases: Earthbound and Homestuck.
>>69303036
>250000 in a week
>mw2 sold 4.5 million opening day
>>69308667
Bingo.
And, yet, the genocide run is the most intellectually dynamic. The pacifist run is fucking brainless faggotry with no great insight into much of anything.
>>69306609
Only one of them was dudebro tho
>>69303146
FPBP
>>69305182
>He can't spam space
>He can't put levels into adaptability.
>>69307421
>>69303036
I don't know what's worse. The fact that some retard decided to post that article, or the fact that /v/tards are crossposting on /pol/ because the other faggots are tired of their shitposting.
>>69307648
Too bad you let SJW and LGBT take rainbows from you.
>>69309264
If you play through the pacifist run, you get a good ending for everyone. It's satisfying.
If you do a genocide run, you're given the chance to back out at any time. If you regret your choices, then you will. The ending is for people who didn't get the point or just didn't care. It drives the whole thing home even harder, but this time, you're punished for it because you were given ample chances to turn yourself around. It's the most engaging of the meta concepts of the game, but insisting on finishing it actually proves it right. By "beating the game," you crossed the line too many times, so you lose for ever as the consequence. The final question is "was it worth it?"
>>69304168
No, you can kill the shit out of them. You can be as merciless as you want, and destroy the world. but it's just nice to do the play through without killing.
>>69309868
Roy G Biv
>>69306625
stuff it in the muffet
>>69309930
>The final question is "was it worth it?"
Always. History is bloody sacrifice after bloody sacrifice. Mountains of corpses on the altar of transcendence, until finally death itself is brutally hacked to pieces.
/pol/s response to this has really surprised me.
Good on you folks to realizing the SJW attempt at appropriating everything they agree with. Just because some SJW says they like something or that it contains "feminist" values doesn't mean it does, or that it panders to those things.
>>69304328
They were brothers..
>>69309930
Which implies that Toby was thinking of it as the bad ending, which is my fucking point you nard.
Cuck game is cuck as fuck.
I enjoyed Undertale a lot. Interesting combat mechanic and really good characters/writing. I did notice that there were a lot of non-traditional gender things in it while playing, but it didn't bother me. I wonder whether Toby Fox was consciously trying to insert these elements, or if they just seemed natural to him. They didn't feel forced, in any case.
Undertale actually went further than most media that's trying to be progressive with the royal guardsmen romance. You almost never see romance between manly men.
Speaking of feminism, I'm kind of annoyed that everyone draws frisk as female. I imagined him as male when I was playing it, and it's obvious that Toby Fox intended him to have no canon gender. (Likely not for any PC reason, but to allow you to identify with the protagonist easier.)
>>69305549
It's implied in a several places that Alphys has a crush on basically everyone, but especially Asgore. For example, in the true ending before the final fight, she says something like, "You should stop going after big fuzzy boss monsters and go for a sexy fish instead." Undyne was perhaps at the top of Alphys' list, and also the only one who returned her feelings.
It's possible to interpret Alphys as quite a shallow and bad person, I think. Though as a weeaboo degenerate myself, I still tend to like her.
>>69303544
WHST FLAG IS THIS? Pls niggas im on mobile
Music was good, bullet hell was fun, art was somewhat subpar but interesting to watch, meme skeleton guys do quality slapstick. I actually hesitated to play because of tumblr fanbase but they really blow all this thing out of proportion. Besides, Alphys is the most useless character anyway.
>>69303036
Ahahahahahaha FUCK NO Undertale might be popular with the hopeless z grade betas into homestuck MLP and furrydom but most gamers despise that kinda shit.
>>69303036
its not
fucking
normal
>>69310623
Macao
>>69303861
This. Undertale's message is nothing more than another kike trick designed to train white kids to never defend themselves from threats. Same shit with MGS.
>>69309779
You should edit the Gaster text to say "hitler did nothing wrong" in Wingdings then pass this image around /v/ a bit.
>>69303036
>ready for feminism
That's a big leap from being able to enjoy one game that's pretty unique on it's own
>>69303036
>LGBT representation is now a progressive value
For fucks sake, can not be progressive without praising fags in every single one of your works.
Nobody but your mentally unstable ass gives a shit.
>>69305850
>dark souls
>good
Hahahaha
>>69305858
That's the whole thing, though. Utena had to grow up from her dyke prince complex so that Anthy could escape.
The movie is just a (glorious) visual extravaganza with a lesbian ending just to appease the yurishitters in Japan, who are probably almost as bad as fujoniggers.
>>69310569
Alphys is basically the personification of every loser neet out there who falls in love at first sight with anything any anyone that gives them attention. She did that will everybody.
Undyne just was at the top of her list, as you said, because she was actually special to her.
>>69305810
>philosophically deep
>>69311654
Deeper than Evangelion mang
>>69311563
go be a contrarian on /v/ faggot
>>69303544
It's a good video game + has some SJW values in it.
Title should be changed to:
Undertale's crazy success provers gamers are ready for good, memorable videogames.
It didn't get popular because SJW values, it got popular because it was pretty good. The only reason it's success is shocking to these people is because all other games with SJW values are fucking garbage.
>>69303036
>Undertale bait threads decline on /v/
>bring it to /pol/ instead
lad...
>>69303861
>calls game creator retarded
>has over 5 million sales not including several of his homestuck albums
He's smart as fuck. I don't like Undertale and I can admit he knows what he is doing.
>>69304093
>SJWs are unable to view something that has anything like this without it being progressive or being self serving to their own agenda.
Fucking nailed it.
They twist shit *way* out of perspective so that it can be all about them. It's pretentious as fuck.
>>69304805
https://aeresland.net/
Embric of Wulfhammer's Castle. Made by an old namefag who did a lot of posting on /tg/ and /u/ during development. Really enjoyable.
>>69303036
>quarter million copies of Undermeme sold
>proves gamers are ready for faggot shit to be shoved down their throats
meanwhile
>GTAV sold 11+ million within 24 hours of being released
>means nothing
Probably, it's also about that our concept of gender doesn't really hold up in the world of this game. Most of the monsters are of different species, and thus actual breeding is rarely possible (though there are creatures of same species, like Asgore and Toriel are)
>>69305879
Undertale is quite greater than trash, I agree.
>>69303036
>people in this thread actually bought and played this autistic game
>>69308034
They would if they got the courage
>>69309779
Thank god that was made
>>69312403
admittedly Undertale is a sleeper hit
>>69312804
guilty
>1/4 Million in a few weeks
WowIt'sFuckingNothing.jpg
Nice to see /pol/ isn't nearly as triggered at Undertale as /v/
Nearly 7 months later and you can still get an unlimited supply of (You)s by just posting a thread with some generic Undertale question
Undertale is one of the many, many, MANY things that are alright or even great on their own but cursed to a cancerous fanbase.
You know.. TheSwitcher played undertail a while ago. Now that channel is shit.
![95e391f7d335ae0d0578382d5eaf4796[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jsnKKEL.jpg "95e391f7d335ae0d0578382d5eaf4796[1].jpg")
>>69313252
The humantale shit barely even got a reaction. Pretty disappointing desu
>>69313362
desu laddo I love looking at shit like this
>>69305286
that's the thing though, feminists are too lazy to do any of that shit. they'll just whine and whine and hope some actual worthwhile person does it for them.
>>69303036
Nobody actually bought this game except SJWs. The rest of us pirated it at most.
>>69303036
I remember a time where video games wasn't about social issues but more about gameplay itself.
I hate games where you can only get the good ending by doing utterly ridiculous pacifistic nonsense.
Meanwhile, neofags cry every time one of their 90 minute long artistic vignette "games" starring a transgender assault helicopter gets Steam Refunded and are so buttleaky over how a Japanese titty game sold out everywhere and are claiming that everybody was TRICKED into buying it by TRICKSY MARKETING
>>69313660
Tweens bought it in bulk too, people underestimate how many 12 year olds who see their favorite youtuber play a popular game will buy it.
It's not just SJWs that cause shit like the Undertale fanbase, it's the sonichu people.
Undertale and all its ilk are disgusting. It's appalling that it's 2016 and people are still making shit with 8bit graphics because they're too lazy/talentless to do art for the game.
I liked the way the game was quirky, and the game reminded me of other rpg's I've enjoyed.
It was all swell untill guys like these showed up on the scene. Yeah, the progressive feminists and sjw's
>>69313770
Undertale isn't about social issues, it really doesn't have much of a message despite being so powerful.
I wouldn't even say it's story oriented, it's just that its story beats its gameplay by so much
>>69313989
I was talking about the headline but ok.
>>69314284
Well that's where Gamergate tried and failed
>>69313890
Some of the art for Undertale is really nice, and other art is really, really low quality.
The art in the shops is great, for instance.
>>69303036
>Make a fun game with an interesting story and good writing
>People play and like it for those reasons, not because of queeromancy or feminal fluid shit
>LGBTBBQ think it's because of those things
>End up with a flood of shitty Gone Home games crammed with identity politics in it because they have no idea what makes a game FUN
Has anyone ever seriously stopped playing an actual good game because it presented an opposing world view to yours? If you continue playing it that doesn't mean you endorse those beliefs. Playing C&C doesn't mean you support Communism or BioShock objectivism or GTA killing hookers with a bat.
>>69313890
>it's 2016
shoo shoo slimey limey
The amusing thing about all of this is even though I own the game, I have never beaten it. Hell, the furthest I got into it was when you first meet the dog warriors. That's all. I couldn't get past them without trying to murder them all so I just gave up and haven't tried playing it in months.
I have no idea who any of these >>69309779 characters are except for Frisk, Toriel, Papyrus, and Sans. Those are the only characters on there I have seen in my play through.
>>69314676
>Has anyone ever seriously stopped playing an actual good game because it presented an opposing world view to yours?
Only SJWs and "redpilled" /pol/acks do that. Acting so offended that a game displays things you don't personally believe is the real of the feminist SJW.
>>69314821
>I couldn't get past them without trying to murder them all so I just gave up and haven't tried playing it in months.
Why didn't you just murder them? That's a totally acceptable way of playing.
>>69314863
Because I didn't want to fuck up the game replay value. I want to get through without murder first and then go through again and kill everything that breathes. But since I cannot even get past the dogs without dying, I guess that won't be happening.
>>69311563
yeah dark souls is so shitty haha
I can't believe so many people play it so often haha
like, what idiots, am I right? hahaha
people can't have opinions that contradict mine, that would just be ridiculous haha
>>69314821
If you literally can't handle the dogs, who lose to being pet, you're supposed to use the stick, which is in your inventory after you equip a weapon for the first time.
It's logic.
>>69315128
>But since I cannot even get past the dogs without dying
Is it the axes?
>>69305537
That's hot
>>69315411
you don't even need the stick to spare the dogs
but it does make this area easier
>>69315128
hint, go under the axes
>>69316008
The axes that the Dogi use are horrible.
When the axes are getting near the center, move across the bottom to the a side wall as they lift up.
>>69316148
Right. That's why I mentioned the "correct" method, which is always some variation of petting them at least once.
>>69316008
Yeah, it is. But after seeing all the shit this game has drawn up in some people, I almost don't want to try and beat it, even if I can.
>>69303036
I have literally never heard of undertale, also
>250,000
stop the fucking presses, move over CODBLOPS there's a new blockbuster in town
>>69303861
The cuck calling the nigger black
>>69316360
very outdated, as of right now steamspy says it has 1.3 million owners
>>69307421
Of course the villains are white.
>>69316334
Letting fanbases ruin games is pretty shitty, senpai. I mean, Sonic 1 and 2 and CD are still great games, despite the fanbase being fucking terrible these days.
>>69303036
>feminism
>queer romance
>progressive values
It's literally a choose your own adventure game with ambiguous stuff thrown in and a handful of silly sexual jokes.
>>69316334
I get that, I unconditionally tasked myself to getting and finishing the game because I enjoyed the demo 2 and a half years ago and it's nerve wracking being a part of the shitstorm surrounding it these past 6 months
>>69316571
Aware of that. But it makes it difficult to try and enjoy the game. I have essentially not gone near anything related to this game until I happened upon this thread.
>>69316825
I want to finish it, but it just pisses me off to no fucking end. And I don't want to cheat by looking up how to get past areas because that would cheapen the game for me. I want to get through it my way and by myself.
>>69303036
God dammit. No. There are no fucks given about their progressive values. If a game has those values and is good, then yeah, of course people are going to play them. I don't play video games because of "muh values".
>>69303036
The fun part of Undertale was not the degeneracy, but the original fighting system and ablitity to do a pacifist, genocide or whatever run.
I hated the degeneracy.
>>69303036
No, this girl's a cunt. All that Undertale proves is that «misogynistics gamers» never were mysoginistic in the first place and that nobody cares about having a gay couple in the game, or girls in the game or whatever. It just show that, just like everybody knew, nobody cares about sexism or whatever and it's all in the feminist heads. Gamers dont give a fuck about gender equality or whatever. The game was pretty alright imo, even tho thats not my favorite game.
>>69303861
Well, you didnt get it at all. The game let you kill everybody, but just like irl you then have to face the consequences. Thats the case in every other game, but reversed: if you want not to kill everybody you cant have the "good" ending, except in other games you dont have no ending at all if you dont kill others. In Undertale, you always have an ending depending on your actions, thats the point of the game. Wanna kill everybody? Fine, but accept that at the end you have nobody to share the happy end with.
>>69303036
>people actually bought and played undermeme
the amount of shilling for the game turned me off of it before I knew what it was about
it's autistic garbage
>>69303861
>Even monsters who killed 6 small human Children and took their souls. That goat king.
>Even in the "good" ending he does not get punished for killing small Children. No really. check it out on Youtube yourself.
>The fact that "you shouldnt try to reload and to the anti cuck route and kill all the monsters, no more good ending for you permanently, that vague plot device character is inside you now forever!
damn this is some satanic shit bro
and to think the shitty graphics will make some parents think it might be acceptable for their kids to play it
>>69310336
I would a spider woman. New ways to have sex developed everyday.
>>69316264
you dont get "yellow names" in the pacifist credit on the dogs names if you used the sticks too,
no idea what the yellow names bring to the game tho
>>69312804
>TFW got gifted by this game because wasn't willing to spend own dosh to buy a shitty game
>Literally hated the game, except for the music and 1 fucking character who seemed pretty cool
>>69318589
They don't actually bring anything. But watching the credits and seeing them in different colors can make you feel a bit incomplete, encouraging you to find the right ways to interact with different monsters if you replay.
>Speight
Every single time.
Why?
Is it bad that I'm now queer romances appealing?
>>69317941
>wahh everyone is a victim, even people who kill children
wow, i cant believe so many retards actually played this game and thought it was good
fucking wow
>>69311604
I thought the whole point was more that Utena learned how to think for herself as a person rather than letting Ohtsuki use her?
![George-Costanza-OCBD1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eLM68VN.jpg "George-Costanza-OCBD1[1].jpg")
>>69305810
>Philosophically deep
If you're twelve.
>>69303036
GTA V sold 60 million copies.
I guess Gamers are MORE ready for violent misogyny and homophobia.
https://youtu.be/l3sJ79C1Zyo
>tfw 1:00
>>69303036
>progressive values
I don't really understand what's particularly 'progressive' about Undertale?
>exploration of archetypal characters and complex themes
Undertale didn't invent self-awareness in writing, or breaking the fourth wall for comedic effect. Metacognition is a pretty old concept. Neither of those tropes are 'progressive', either.
>willingness to engage with the player as an equal
Every game ever has "engaged with the player"—it'd be a movie otherwise, not a game. As for engaging 'as an equal', I have no conception of what the author could mean by that. Maybe she thinks in Undertale the main character is only as powerful as anyone else? Except that isn't true in the game, and if it was there wouldn't be anything inherently socially progressive about it. Having a mortal main character is the basis of the difficultly of almost every video game that even has a main character.
>excellent soundtrack and novel fusion of genres
Seriously? What the fuck is progressive about a good soundtrack, or the concept of being interesting itself?
There isn't anything in Undertale that is inherently progressive, or conservative, or any other shade of politically charged. The closest Undertale comes to being progressive is that there are some side-characters who are gay, and that doesn't feature into the gameplay (or even really the story) at all. It's pretty fucking clear that this Emily Speight is a bad joke of a writer that's projecting her own beliefs onto a politically neutral video game. This is on the same level as fascists on /pol/ photoshopping swastikas onto anime characters, except without any of the self-awareness or comedic intent.
Emily Speight is a shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9uy3KdeEU&index=1029&list=WL
>>69303036
>>>/v/
video games are degenerate and do not belong on the only bastion of white Christian morality on this god forsaken site
>>69321120
>violent misogyny
>GTA V
>When they literally removed female police officers, and the ability to pull out your guns in the strip club
They literally removed all the POTENTIAL violence against women, and you go through the game killing innocent male cops and security guards, but some how even you fucking "red pilled" fucks still think its misogynistic
holy fuck
wake me up
>>69321821
>dont talk to me or my wifes son ever again
dont have kids please you deluded autistic cuck
>>69303036
>progressive values
>>69303036
Gamers are ready for good dames
/thread
>>69312295
Undertale was hijacked by american intelligence agency to push an agenda they saw that they could push for with Undertale, read: >>69311176
>>69303036
nah, it's been blown way out of proportion by tumblrites.
like usual, they ruin everything they touch
>>69303996
>Mexican intellectuals
>>69303036
Jesus Christ, a lesbo fish fags it up with a lisa dinosaur and Tub-lard buttergoblins act like the whole god damn game is about gay orgy acceptance.
The combat is pretty good, and the characters are pretty likeable. Go for genocide or pacifist, and dont be that faggot that gets the neutral ending, watch that shit on youtube unless you have a bad case of the autisms and have to play the game multiple times just for boring endings.
It's not the best game ever, but it's pretty good.
>>69314821
You're really fucking bad at the game then anon
>>69310533
No they weren't.
>>69303036
Dykes and queers have been in games for years.
There were two gay couples in this game and the subplots were a net total of about 5 minutes in an 8 hour game.
If you want to know if a game is feminist, look at how low the profit is.
>>69303036
wow some trash where you drive a little pixel heart around and dodge pixellated seahorse biceps has made 2.5 million dolalrs
gamers are ready to get cucked apparently
>>69322923
Oh Straya, we love you so.
>>69303902
That mechanic of befriending the enemy is not original. It exists througout a number of shin megami tensei games and it was actually really great. The impact outside of battle from befriending certain enemy types was great. The strategy involved was also pretty fun and still played out more or less like a normal battle would in terms of pace.
So how did undertale do it? Was it good?
>>69303036
Game is straight muh feels, but the characters were well-developed, the music was fucking awesome, and I've got a soft heart so it was fun to be able to make everyone come together in friendship and love and all, since that never happens IRL. Everybody getting along is a pipe dream of mine that I'll never be able to actually kill.
TL;DR No.
>>69322860
The hetero romantic attractions match the number of homo ones, even when you include the ambiguous protagonist.
>Gay:
>alphys + undyne
>dudebro guard + dudebro guard
>frisk (if female) + alphys
>frisk (if male) + papyrus
>Straight:
>alphys + asgore
>toriel + asgore
>frisk (if female) + papyrus
>frisk (if male) + alphys
Considering gays are like 3ish(?) percent of the population, making half the romantic interactions homo is pushing an agenda. There's also the transgender character (Mettaton), headmates (Amalgamites), furries, etc. to further the tumblr appeal.
>>69303036
>game is successful
>"This proves that gamers are ready to embrace progressive values. We need more progressive games!"
>game is failure
>"This proves that the gamers didn't get our message. We need more progressive games!"
>>69303036
That's not the impression I got while playing.
It has some funny moments ("All proceeds go to real spiders") but in general it is a passive-aggressive "artistic" meme game. That does not a radical feminist transrotational spannerqueer game make.
>game has a literal strong independent woman who don't need no man
>progressive retards pretend she's Muslim
I laugh every time, and get enraged that they blaspheme her.
>>69323560
>they actually belive that shit
remember that "Sunset" niggress dev? does anyone has her tweets?
>>69323003
While the combat was more or less interesting if not a dumbed down, slightly tuned version of the usual bullet hell games, anything outside of the actual gameplay was linear 'exploration' followed up with uninteresting dialogue and predictable plot devices. The whole "befriend the enemy" thing was a sham. You avoid attacks and end combat without attacking, but the effects of this pacifism dont actually mean a thing until you reach the end.
Basically, Undertale's success is only a testament to the developer's relation to the creator of Homestuck/Tumblr and should be stop being praised, it's really quite horrible outside of the (tiny) cast of quirky characters.
>>69323432
ehhh, I feel like there's a difference between implicitly saying in the game "THIS IS WHAT'S NORMAL AND RIGHT, #KILLALLMEN" and just having some gay monster creatures
If you were punished for choosing a straight relationship or something I could definitely see it, but it still seems like a stretch.
>>69321738
He seems like a fun guy.
The music's the only good bit
>>69323003
Undertale strips the RNG, but befriending monsters doesn't do anything except resolve conflict.
There are two specific bosses that will befriend you're Ghandi though.
The dev did cite SMT as an inspiration, he believed that being able to talk to the monsters gave them a little personality which humanizes them and is synergistic with the whole pacifism thing.
>>69323917
That will befriend IF* you're Ghandi
>>69303036
I do literally have no clue what the fuck Undertale is still.
>>69303036
I like the game despite feminism crap.. the same i thought the new start wars was ok as long as i ignore abrams licking the asshole of fems and nigs.
>>69323741
Here you go.
No amount of power is going to make these people successful.
>>69303036
i pirated it and deleted it almost immediately afterwards
the test was juvenile and made me uncomfortable, and the combat system was tacky shit
it is honestly a game for children, i don't know how this got so out of hand. then again bronies exist so who knows how this works
>>69324122
>may you die in the same agony that you caused to thousands of defenceless virtual creatures
So no agony at all because they're not real and our AI technology is not sophisticated enough to feel pain?
>>69303036
Mag on ps3 sold over 1million copies and the studio still went under.
250000 sjws buying an indie game is not really a success. All it truely shows is that they are hypocrites in that games and gamers are ok as long as they agree with them and push "their" narrative.
>>69323003
>So how did undertale do it? Was it good?
It's just an attack that does morale damage instead of physical damage. The only difference between a regular attack and a love attack is that a regular attack has a QTE involved
>>69307421
>played game with no expectation, hearing nothing of its reputation
>beat it, enjoyed it
>see things like this
I have no clue why pictures like this get made or where they're drawing these conclusions from. I do find it funny that Toby Fox asked the community not to be autistic when talking about it. I wonder what he's thinking about all of the "messages" people are seeing in his game?
I wonder if they took into account steam sales the game literally launched during the wintersale and not only that this wintersale basically had really nothing of major note.
i think undertale got down to 2.50$ at one point but was pretty much always under 5$ for a good long while (at least while i was half way looking at it)
>>69324442
Shit, I forgot to include that here >>69323432
Monsters are hurt by malevolent INTENTIONS. Toby actually tacked on the idea that emotional harm is just like physical harm. Feels matter as much as reals.
>>69303861
What the fuck are you even talking about?
>Even in the "good" ending he does not get punished for killing small Children
The only way to not get Asgore killed is to do the pacifist run. In literally every other ending he gets wrecked by either you or Flowey. Is that not enough? Do you want to torture him more?
>The game does not "let you" not kill monsters, it forces you, since you will get bad ending for killing monsters.
I wouldn't call neutral ending "bad". After all you get to escape the underground, even if you do it alone. Neutral ending can be pretty positive for monsters as well, depending on how you played the game.
>cucks love games where they are FORCED not to kill their enemies.
>And no, there are no interesting or unique characters, they are stockcharacters that you just want to kill.
Your first and last sentences conflict so much I don't even know where to begin. How can you care so much about the monsters that you feel forced to save them, yet feel like you just want to kill them? The pacifist ending is only a good ending if you legit want to release the monsters. There is no additional benefit for you or your character.
Also if you do the boring grind just to get the genocide ending, you really do deserve what you get. You have time to reset the world without consequences even after Sans fight, so there literally is no excuse to get the "bad" ending other than really wanting to destroy everything.
Wheres that one screencap about the viral marketing firm that latched onto undertale because they thought it was the perfect SJW game to push agendas or something?
>>69324927
I seriously hope you don't actually believe that.
4chin is full of faggots. tell me something i don't know
Undertale's target audience were furries, homostuck kidsies and the rest of tumblr. They are quite vocal, so no surprise it exploded so hard. Good for the dev, he earned way too much money for a 3-hour-long game made in rpg maker
Also undertale itself is boring, has a generic story and easy as fuck
