Prove to me they weren't really Cleopatraneesha and Tutandarius.
>>69267758
Cleopatra was Greek.
You idiot.
>>69268458
>Cleopatra was Greek.
We are not certain of the heritage of Cleopatra's mother or her paternal grandmother. That leaves 50% to 75% of her genetic heritage unknown - and ripe for speculation.
HOL UP
SO U BE SAYIN
>>69269073
S-Sweden. Please.
>>69269165
WE
>>69269304
*smacks lips*
>>69267758
If you make a claim, burden of proof is on you isn't it? Where's the proof that the ancient Egyptians were black?
>>69269345
WAT YUS TRYING DA SAY
>>69269304
WAIT HOL UP HOL UP HOL UP
*collects welfare check*
>>69269416
AYOO HOL UP
>>69269124
I wonder what the response to this was
>>69269461
>>69269452
U TRYIN DA SAY WE WUZ SUM FINNA
>>69267758
Prove to me she wasn't a Chinese transgender orang-utan from the future. Oh, you can't? Well then.
though egyptians arent black, they did indeed get blacked by the nubians, but i've never bothered to check how long they held on to their empire before it turned to shit
>>69269461
YOU-YALL SAYIN WE
YALL GON TELL ME WE WUZ
*sells crack*
YOU SAYIN WE WUZ
>>69269663
HOL UP NIGGA
*shouts wurrrrrrrrld staaaaaaaaaaaar*
HOL UP
>>69269910
WE
>>69269382
>Posts at an Uzbekistani glass figurine forum
>Tries to play the burden of proof game
Not today amerifriend.
>>69270097
*does the stanky leg*
>>69270231
SO U BE SAYIN
>>69270282
WE
>>69267758
To be fair, they were.
Back when royalty was worth fuck.
>>69269073
Yes the woman constantly described as sandy haired, freckled and fair skinned could definitely have been black
>>69269124
Fucking brilliant.
>>69270388
WUZ
>>69269623
Well China is a different continent. Egypt actually is in Africa.
>>69270679
>>69270753
SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
>>69269416
looks very Roman to me
>>69270508
>Yes the woman constantly described as sandy haired, freckled and fair skinned could definitely have been black
Well, Jesus is usually depicted as white. What is the probability of that? Could it be white washing?
WE WUZ SUMERIANS AND SHIT
>>69270949
Jesus is not described as white in ancient texts. Cleopatra is.
>>69267758
> niggers
> committing suicide
Greeks conquered egypt
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemaic_dynasty
>>69270949
Jesus was objectively "white". He was from the Levant pre Islam rape
>We reconstructed the genetic structure of the Levantines and found that a pre-Islamic expansion Levant was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners.
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316
>>69271005
That's not even a thing, so stop trying to make it one you slut.
>>69270901
OPPS SURRY BROTHA OPPS SO LET ME AKS YOU SOMPIN NOW, SO YOU SAYED WE WUS
>>69271005
>>69270901
>>69270679
>>69270388
>>69270282
>>69270231
>>69269910
>>69269604
>>69269416
>>69269416
>>69269165
>>69269304
>>69269124
I seriously love you guys more than my friends and family.
>>69271122
Explains why they built great civilizations back then.
>>69268458
Cleopatra was Macedonian.
>>69271073
In some historic art Cleopatra is portrayed as a person of negroid ancestry. Sure, those artists might not have been eye witnesses but that is something they probably share with the authors of those ancients text you refer to.
>>69271320
Your pic is totally correct btw.
>>69271122
You don't really believe that. That is just plain silly.
>>69271320
Ouch man, that image hurts.
>>69271612
>historic art
Which is meaningless. Have a look at ancient coins bearing Cleopatra's face. Have a look at statues of her made while she was alive. She was a big nosed wog
>>69271320
Is this a red pill or bullshit?
>>69267758
If Cleopatra was black then why did Mark Anthony fuck her? White men generally don't go for ugly black women; especially not one who is powerful enough to fuck practically any white woman he chooses.
>>69267758
Nubians only took over southern Egypt they didnt build shit and their rule quickly fell apart.
Cleopatra and Tut were from the northern parts of Egypt and had no connection to the Nuibians which were long gone by the time they came to power.
>>69272103
>Historic art is meaningless
In many instances historians can extract the same knowledge and learn just as much of ancient culture from art as from ancient texts.
Besides, not all ancient texts describe her they way you just did, no?
>>69270231
Fuck you, you now owe me new sides...
http://blog.oup.com/2010/12/cleopatra-2/
Here's a post by Oxford University Press, where they explain that Cleopatra was either 100% Greek or 75% Greek / 25% Arab.
>>69271487
No denying that, but Tutankhamen's profile looks too negro to be white...unless he's Irish.
Tbh, he looks like he has plenty of Shitskin in him. Look at his prognathism.
>>69272471
Bullshit, /pol/ tier misinformation. Nubians were Caucasoid, took over all of Egypt after defeating the Libyans, didn't do shit to exacbrate Egypt's downfall, the only thing they really did was fend off the Assyrians for a hundred years. I don't get why /pol/ likes this fairy tale of the Nubians being retards who ruined Egypt when they were actually decent civilization builders.
>>69272531
Cleopatra was described as being fair skinned. She was apart of the Ptolemy's dynasty in Egypt meaning she was descended from macedonian's/greeks. She also spoke greek and had great pride in her greek heritage and never considered herself "egyptian".
When a conquering force colonizes, they don't interbreed with the nativesall that often because they believe they are the superior. She was a Greek woman
>>69271132
What is this?
>>69272189
Semi-true.
Women are attracted to anything that symbols a man is able to protect or provide for her, as would have increased he likelihood of survival tens of thousands of years. Height, strength, social status, symbols of wealth, etc.
The absolute mongoloid Benedict Cumberbatch is apparently sexually attractive to women, for instance. Matt Smith with his face like a foot, too. That is because these men have social status off the charts.
Being aesthetically attractive is a sign of genetic health, but this isn't the only factor in determining attractiveness to a woman.
>>69272877
Tut was inbred as fuck senpai. Gotta keep the bloodline pure yaknowwhaddimsayin
>>69272877
Tut was an inbred mongrel, his features are that of a man with extreme deformities.
>>69272947
Extremes in masculine and feminine facial features. At 0000, you find the epitome of a--ideal and attractive--masculine face. A rarity today, because there's estrogen everywhere--our water, our food, birth control pills that are chock full of it can be passed down from women to their children.
>>69273060
>>69273153
Could be true. Whatever he is its damned disgusting.
>>69272746
I found this quote particularly interesting:
>"It is with Cleopatra’s grandfather that uncertainties develop. Although he had two wives of traditional Macedonian background, he seems to have had at least one concubine of uncertain origin, who may have been Cleopatra’s grandmother"
>>69272531
Cleopatra's legacy was that she was a great beauty. European artists in the 18th and 19th century simply took the modern aesthetic of beauty and applied it to her. This is why she is depicted as being plump, small breasted and bold nosed in most European art - that is what they considered beautiful.
The same goes for her Hollywood depictions, she was played by an Anglo-Saxon woman because that's what Hollywood thought was beautiful.
So any artistic rendition of her after her death is based more on period aesthetics and less on reality
>>69273343
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100216-king-tut-malaria-bones-inbred-tutankhamun/ the theories are out there, he is fucked tbf
>>69267758
You can literally look at their death masks to see what they looked like.
>>69272907
>Cleopatra was described as being fair skinned
Would you agree that among negroes, Beyonce can be considered fair skinned?
>>69273350
I find the part where they say "there's no chance she had black African ancestry" particularly interesting. Cherry-picking is intellectually dishonest, Sven.
>>69273410
>This is why she is depicted as being plump, small breasted and bold nosed in most European art - that is what they considered beautiful.
Top kek. The old standard for European beauty literally describes the average Jewess.
>>69270949
I went to a Chinese Church the other day and their portrayal of Jesus was as a Chinese man. Slanted eyes and all. Could this be Chinese washing?
>>69273410
>So any artistic rendition of her after her death is based more on period aesthetics and less on reality
Then you should know that the same distortions occur even in ancient texts. Especially when powerful individual, families and dynasties are involved.
Yet you put faith in one of them but not in the other.
>>69271825
You don't?
>>69273930
Death mask were idealized versions of themselves.
Bone structure and DNA are far more telling.
>>69273350
>purposely picking the only information that supports your shitty argument
whew I thought the the cuck thing was just a meme
>>69274007
She bleaches her skin tho
>>69274457
Yeah. King Tut looked like this right.
>>69274087
>"there's no chance she had black African ancestry"
It is funny. You typed that out as an exact quote yet I cant find it in the text. Intellectual dishonesty at its best.
You can't. You can't prove either. There are not pictures not videos obviously.
Historical accounts describe both dark skin and middle eastern/Mediterranean people, as well as white.
skeletal structures, artistic depictions and written descriptions seem to favor that the kings and queens of Egypt were not sub Saharan African (black)
>>69274382
Did he look like this? Well, to be perfectly honest. Chances are just as big he was asian as he was white.
>>69268458
This
>>69267758
you know... egyptians aren't extinct
>>69274510
There are plenty of negroes that don't bleach yet are much lighter skinned than other negroes. Look I am not taking a jab at you here, after all I am from Sweden and it would be ironic, but you really should know this considering you live in the USA.
>>69274457
Their bone structure shows them to be not black.
Anyway fuck this slide thread.
Sage.
>>69274744
Fuck no.
>>69275315
I never said it did. Who are you arguing against?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwSFv8e8K4
.... the cringe....
>>69275078
>you know... egyptians aren't extinct
No, but it was still on the african continent. Also, the genetical makeup of Egyptians today is not the exactly the same as it was when Cleopatraneesha was a live.
>>69267758
Cleopatra was part of the Ptolemy line
She was Greek as was most of the ruling families of Egypt during that time
>>69275315
Are you kidding me? That face looks like the definition of negro. Look at the overall short length of the skull and the overly pronounced zygomatic arch.
>>69271132
>>69273261
What was the doc called?
I saw a clip online but I can't find anything the actual doc.
>>69275839
Victor S. Johnston?
>>69275612
>the genetical makeup of Egyptians today is not the exactly the same as it was when Cleopatraneesha was a live.
same with niggers, whats your point on this?
Just about all of African Americans descendants come from West Africa, right? The blacks of West Africa are basically a different race than the ones from East that have ties to Egypt. What's with this thinking that all dark skinned Africans can be placed under one label?
>>69272189
Attractiveness is not as important to men as to woman. Being attractive means that you have an advantage but is not the end all. If an ugly son of a bitch like El Rato was able to bang over 5 bitches then any man can do so. Think of it like this Woman Attraction = Looks + Power*Personality.
Power can be Money, Political or a mix of the two. Personality means that you are confident or simply have a Personality that attracts females. As you can see Power and Personality affect each other while Looks is simply something added. Even the ugliest man can get some pussy but the same can't be said of a handsome man.
>>69275720
Most--if not all--of the great civilizations of the ancient were ruled by a white, upper class that migrated from Northern lands. Kind of like contemporary Southern America, or Iran. The Whites made the descions, the shitskin majority did all of the work.
>>69275214
>There are plenty of negroes that don't bleach yet are much lighter skinned than other negroes.
Yeah, and they're mixed.
>>69275007
Assuming you're not here to troll, which you almost certainly are, people tend to portray Jesus as looking more like themselves. Western Europeans portrayed him as white, Byzantines portrayed him as Greek, Ethiopians portrayed him as black-ish etc. It's nothing new. In older times, when most traditional art was made, the average person had no frame of reference outside of what was a days walk away from where they lived.
>>69274745
Man you are such a cuck Sven. The bottom line is that it's almost certain that Cleopatra was 100% Greek/Macedonian. Her lineage is relatively well known and the small uncertainty is of no consequence. She has 0% Negro blood on her. The fact that you would even think she has Negro blood makes you quite frankly a Cuck among Cucks.
>>69277773
>almost certain
>small uncertainty
>relatively well known
Listen to yourself my dark skinned friend. The words used above is not the ones used by somebody who wants to make a compelling case.
So many uncertainties.
>>69278362
I don't talk in absolutes because the only absolute is death. That being said I can honestly say that Cleopatra was 99.99% pure Greek/Macedonian decent. I'm as certain of her ancestry as I'm certain of your love for muslim brown dick.
>>69274745
I specifically didn't use the word quote because I was paraphrasing, faggot
these threads.
>>69278729
>I'm certain of your love for muslim brown dick.
Speaking of brown people.
>>69274387
Coins of her likeness were minted while she ruled. Statues of her likeness were sculpted while she ruled. These still exist. It's called evidence, not faith. Provide some evidence that she was black
>>69279962
>Sven talking about brown people
HOL UP
>>69269416
>>69270939
>>69280159
she wasn't. request cannot be honoured.
aloe vera and shabadaqueesha just want to run around campus claiming shit wuz taken fum dem
/thread.
>>69280201
Theres no secret Sweden has imported large number of shitskins. But at least the native population is not of poo poo color or have negroid characteristics.
Why are you even mocking brown people when you are brown yourself?
>>69267758
>Cover asks "Was Cleopatra black?"
>Article answers "No"
>Still make money on piquing the interest of retarded people
>>69281068
>Native population
You realize your government is actively trying to wipe you out right? Less than a decade from now you'll be a minority in your own nation.
>>69281771
>Less than a decade from now you'll be a minority in your own nation.
Well meme'd. I'll make sure to get an extra lock for the door to my cuckshed . Don't worry, I'll be fine.
>>69282405
Of course you'll be fine Sven, we know you will be. It'll be a dream come true.
>>69281068
>not knowing there are actually less nigs in Puerto Rico than in Sweden
Most of us are pretty white and unlike you cucks we prefer fair complexion.
>inb4 not blonde, blue eyes
>>69282685
>Pretty white
>>69267758
YEAH WE WUZ
MELANIN
>>69267758
Cleopatra was macedonian greek. She took power in Egypt after the death of Alexander the Great (otherwise known as Alexander of Macedonia) who conquered Egypt for the greeks.
She was a member of a powerful macedonian family which refused to learn Egyptian.
There is no speculation, it's not even debatable.
>>69275776
any first-year phrenology student could tell you that this man is a COLD BLOODED MURDERER
>>69282791
>all white people are anglos, germanic or nordic
>>69282685
>Most of us are pretty white
>>69282685
>Puerto Rico
>white
>>69282685
You kind of have the same skin tone as these guys.
>>69284444
Much whiter than them.
They have better lighting while I have shitty room lighting making me look darker.
I come from Spanish/French decent and I have no negro or Indian blood. In all my ancestors came to the island after WW1 and they all came from either Spain or France.
>>69274007
That nose says not.
>>69267758
>Prove
no stolen bikes in tomb
oh wait new burial chamber discovered. You have hope yet Tyrone.
>>69288611
Tyrone is an african american name. Did you mean Ahmed?
>>69288611
refers to the kangs 'n shit part of this thread.
Just show the skulls of the Pharaohs and everything will be crystal clear. Are they Human or Simeanoid?
>>69272877
Looks Slavic to me
>>69290279
>>69271487
Which is Hellenistic at the time (Ptolemy), therefore fucking Greek..
>>69273011
>The absolute mongoloid Benedict Cumberbatch is apparently sexually attractive to women, for instance. Matt Smith with his face like a foot, too. That is because these men have social status off the charts.
Have social status because famous actors. Casted as famous actors because?????
Your logic doesn't make sense. They wouldn't have been casted if they weren't attractive to someone.
>>69290818
Maybe we wuz kangs--- oops I mean 'they' was kings, those are some pretty simean profiles.
Just saying
Egypt lasted 3 times longer than the entirety of western civilization since Roman times.
You don't think demographics changed at all during those thousands of years?
>>69291902
>They wouldn't have been casted if they weren't the right religion or have friends in high places.
>WINNING!
>>69267758
>>69285188
Puerto Rico confirmed for white, all my PoRi friends are as white as Italians.
>>69267758
Tutank'darius Amun'sarius
Indisputatble Proofs right here brotha.
>>69267758
they where literally caucasian
