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If Democratic Socialism Is So Bad
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Why is Sweden doing so good?
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>>69247552
>Sweden
>Doing great
It think you mean "was doing"
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Sweden used to do well, but then we sold out 70% of our gov. owned companies and also got a major case of white guilt.
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>>69247552
Because it was basically national socialism until it wasn't
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wow russia has the same
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Democratic socialism works under a homogeneous society that doesn't hate itself
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>>69247552
Whenever you see American supporters of Sanders et al bring up Sweden or Norway, you can guarantee their knowledge of either country goes nowhere beyond nice, easily-shareable, Occupy Democrats memes.
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>>69247811
wow
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>>69247706
White guilty is the big issue here
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It works.
What doesn't work is being socially "progressive".
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>>69247552
>Until the age of 20
Here if you are studying in an university you will have free healthcare even if you are 100 yo
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If they can get more than a population of 10 million, then we'll see if "Sweden is so nice"
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Norway also has this
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>>69248192
Well, right now its like 9mi swedes and almost 1 mi kebabs
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>>69247552
SWEDEN YES
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>>69248084
But then you live in Costa Rica
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>>69247552
ANOTHER FUCKING SWEDENPOSTER

FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>69248276
You only get away with it because you have all the fucking oil you thick cunt.
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>>69248353
How is that connected to economic/social system?
What's with these idiots here who don't understand the difference?
Socialism doesn't mean SJWism.
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>>69247552
>be a cuckold goy
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>>69248433
"Not all blacks are niggers" -Cuckservatives everywhere
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>>69248510
And England got away with industrial revolution because they had shitload of coal.
Guess what, you can't make a pie out of shit.
Norwegians used their oil well. Venezuelans totally failed.
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Ahaha our schools are in a complete free fall
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>>69248353
>1 in 4

This is the number tumblr feminists/sjws spout when talking about rape, Either the number is true and they think Sweden applies globally, Or the number is bullshit and every feminist is using it cuz it sound really really terrible
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>>69247552
Long story short:
Massive monetary gains from selling ores to Nazi Germany, and never being invaded (thus having no damages done to the country), then later becoming a part of the Marshall Plan.
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Sweden is hella racist
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Isn't that shit the same for every country thats not china, africa, shitskinistan, and united states of jew?
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>>69248830
>selling ores
Because they didn't sell them otherwise?
>never being invaded
True.
>Marshall Plan
Partially true. They were well-off even before that.
Sweden is like 80% frozen forest. They didn't have it easy.
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>>69247552
>If libertarians are so dumb, then why is Somalia a model of intellectualism.
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>>69248713
The govt
Its all the govt
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>>69247552
Americans are just scared of the eternal reds, even if they aren't there. Also, they're generally dumb.
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>>69247552

One of my friends is a swedish student here at UNR. He says he came here to learn applied engineering to build drones, which will hopefully be used in his home country at some point.

We both had a laugh, and then I knew he was serious.
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>>69248982
The benefit of being the only supplier means you're setting the price.
During peace time this was not quite the case, and while they were well off before the Marshall Plan, bringing all the American companies does give an incentive to start improving.

Sweden is good because of the investments they made were all correct, not because they're Socialist.

That can be seen now as the Government is struggling, which is also happening in other countries which can not pay up with resources but follows the same model, like Finland.
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>>69247552

Sweden is doing great. I feel sorry for my Swedish brothers and sisters that's stuck in a Socialist hell hole.
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>>69247552
It isn't bad in it-self but the people who support it are sadly most often multiculturalism. This is disastrous because welfare-states are paradises for parasites and foreigners in general and we need to keep them out. Welfare states only works with closed borders with a largely homogeneous population with good work ethic.
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>>69248830
> never being invaded

We lost you guys didnt we?
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>>69249197
why does that seem absurd?
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>>69249413

Because they won't be used BY his country.

They will be used ON his country.
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>>69247552
hahahaha
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>>69249397
I'm talking about WW2.
You lost your empire after you decided invading Norway would be a swell idea, then got your asses handed to you by farmers.

Had Denmark beaten you, you'd have nothing.
Though, technically, Norway was an independent region so it doesn't matter in the first place.
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>>69248067
rare
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>>69249248
>The benefit of being the only supplier means you're setting the price.
Do you have any numbers?
Because logic dictates that while being surrounded by Nazis Swedes weren't really able to play Jews.
>Sweden is good because of the investments they made were all correct
I'm sorry but you're not observing this in proper time-scale.
Sweden was literally among last countries in Europe that had famine.
>same model
Because they literally pay people to sit in their home and play video games.
Of course that's not going to work.
But common-sense socialism does work.
Like for example, imagine if you have some strategic resource in big quantity, but your own population (private sector) doesn't have the capital or means to exploit it.
Is it more rational to invite foreign capital and companies to do it, or for the state to take over and exploit it for the benefit of society?
Don't forget the political implications of rich companies controlling your resources.
That's my point, at it's base socialism, or better said mixed socialism is the most logical choice.
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>>69249563
We lost the empire because the brilliant general that based Karl placed incharged decided to march to ukraine in winter, Then assault poltava with little to no resources. Norway was just Karl throwing a tantrum. But no you are right, We did hold out pretty great during ww2
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>>69247552
Sweden is social democratic, not democratic socialist. There are no socialist countries in Europe.
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>>69247552
After 50 years of stagnation, Sweden is on the verge of collapse.
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>>69250330
Belarus.
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>>69247552
>Look at all this free shit you get from Sweden
That's why nationalism is important when it comes to socialism.
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Is it actually free education though? I know Germany always get put into these "Europe has free stuff" images but our universities aren't free. They're comparatively cheap and you can apply for an interest-free student loan to pay for it, but they're not free.
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Sweden is getting ass fucked by Turks and Niggers.
Sweden is exporting hundreds of ISIS fighters.
Sweden thinks it's racist to fly its own flag
Don't be like Sweden
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>>69250610
Dictatorship =/= socialism
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>>69250099
I honestly wish it would've gone differently from the way it did with the Swedish Empire, it used to be a pretty big force to be reckoned with, so it's sad to see it just be beaten down like that.
>>69249867
Most information available is only so in Swedish, so unless you speak Swedish I doubt it will help you a lot, but the translations available on Wikipedia using the sources are rather accurate.
But that they bothered to invade a neighboring country just to get their ores out say a lot.
>I'm sorry but you're not observing this in proper time-scale.
Please do go on.
>Sweden was literally among last countries in Europe that had famine.
Swedens last famine was around 1770.
It "literally" isn't among the last countries in Europe to have one.
>Because they literally pay people to sit in their home and play video games.
I think you misunderstand how the social system works in the Nordic model.
Unless you've had a job for a set amount of time, you're never going to get away with it, as you're forced into labor by the government to receive money.
The reason it's going bad is because there are no jobs available to the youth, they're emigrating in masses, the biggest amount since the 1920s, mainly to Norway and the US.

You're misunderstanding where I'm coming from. I'm merely giving one of many reasons they are successful, I really don't care about your personal political opinions.
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>>69251092
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_of_1866%E2%80%9368
And about video games, they literally put a guy on welfare because he has "disorder" that causes him to play video games all day long.
WW2 lasted 5 years. I highly doubt Swedes sold so much ore in 5 years that they prospered just because of it.
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>>69248982
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html
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>>69247552

Past capitalist gains from banana republic. (Same as Norway & Denmark). Low population.
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>>69247552
highest taxes in the world
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Yea we were doing great when our social welfare was directed at ethnic swedes and not at welfare seekers from Mordor
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>>69252519

Sometimes I wonder if it takes them 6 months to save up to buy a new phone.
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>>69252320
So? I never said I agree with their policies in regards to that.
I understand where you're coming from, as a Brazillian, but as someone who lives in a region that went from full-blown socialism to "free" market, don't think you'll prosper once you swallow American cock.
It's not about socialism, it's about corruption.
>>69251021
Yes but they are literally socialist as in most of shit is state-owned.
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>>69252554

That's another thing. White people.

Libs think 3rd world Mexicans will help America. When in fact capitalism was God mode when we were 90% white and had less welfare programs for lazy shits.
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The protection of the United States. That's why most of the west have fantastic welfare systems because military spend is relatively low. Big brother USA is willing to spend so much on its own military and everyone expects US protection.
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>>69252739
Capitalism was God mode beacuse you are literally a continent-sized country which was empty, full of resources, and totally isolated from center of global politics (Europe).
Funny how you are first to point out "small population" but you pretend America didn't play on easy mode.
There is nothing exceptional about America.
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>>69247552
Find Stefan's bid about it. On on mobile now, and won't be teaching it down. It's more about Sweden and Denmark having a massive build-up of resources due to Protestant Ethic, and Norway having a ton of oil.
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>>69252980

Our population increased because of Hispanics.

55 million. Nearly 50% are on some type of welfare/foodstamps.

Idk what you are trying to get at?
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>>69248353
Why are white male Swedes becoming rapists at alarming rates?
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>>69252782
Protection against what exactly?
I love this meme about how poor Americans are spending so much on military because lazy Europeans don't want to, and not because they need to enforce the interests of their global empire and their MIC.
What an awful propaganda, yet I see some honestyl believe that bullshit. US budget for Europe was 700 million $ before this year.
Europe spent shitload on defense during Cold War.
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>>69248084
And how well have such socialist policies worked out in Costa Rica? Oh right, they haven't.
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>>69253168
I'm getting at "capitalism is God mode".
Capitalism (unrestrained capitalism) is God mode when you have the necessary setup.
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>>69247552
>Why is Sweden doing so good
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>>69247552
>Why is Sweden doing so good?
Is it? Offering free everything is nice, and giving over a year of parental leave is nice as well, but the bill just doesn't work out in the end.
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>>69252554
There you have it. The problem now is that Sweden is importing useless people en masse. Not to mention the leftie insanity going on there. I have no doubt in 10 years time Sweden will be forced to drop some of it's shit and people will still wonder what happened.
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>>69247552
democratic socialism is great

in countries that are 99%+ white

when you have to support niggers it becomes awful
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>>69253500

Yeah.

I'm just saying democratic socialism tends to do better with smaller counties.

A country like America with nearly 20t in debt talking about democratic socialism is insane
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>>69247552
Sweden.

No.
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>>69247552
>480 Days of Parental Leave
I hope all the mooslems and niggers get smart and steal yer jerbs
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>>69253340
America is not necessarily spending it directly on Europe rather a strong American force is representative of a strong western force. Not to mention NATO and other alliances in Europe. America has an incredible military and European powers spend next to nothing on defense.
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>>69248067
RARE
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>>69248353
>53 per 100,000 is equal to 1 out of 4
kek
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>>69254349
>niggers and mudslimes working
ha ha ha no
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>>69249673
>>69256732
newfags
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>>69254349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUTnNKhF-EU
dey tuk ar jebs
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>>69247859
Homogeneity has nothing to do with it. Europeans know better than to allow rich people to lie to them about tax cuts...for rich people. Murkanigger is uneducated, addicted to mindless TV like "king of queens", and "follow the moving boobies on modern family", etc. Murkanigger never had a chance.
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>>69247552
>Sweden is doing good

Even mainstream sources say that the Scandinavian model has been completely discredited, and that's before taking into account the cuckening at the hands of rapefugees
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Denmark's prime minister demands that Bernie Sanders stop using 'socialist slurs' when referring to his country and explains that his country is in fact a capitalist market economy.

http://www.investors.com/politics/capital-hill/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/
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>>69248353
DELETE THIS
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>>69248711
you sound like and anti sjw
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