What's pol's opinion on pre-martial sex and masturbationfrom a Christian perspective
>>69174722
Its fine. Women are cunts. Why would I want to spend more than a a few weeks with any single one?
>>69174722
Don't care about it.
One of the few things left to enjoy in life so I don't care if it's degenerate
>masturbation was invented by god.
>the jews invented anti-masturbation (child-cutting)
>so god invented the american woman
>jews trick her with promises of money and power
>god invents gay and gives up on trying to defeat those pesky juden
Pre-marital sex and generally sex that is not intended to result in reproduction is degenerate from not only a Christian perspective, but from the perspective of of creating a non-degenerate society.
All the problems that /pol/acks have with women? Easily solved if man-sluttery is no longer condoned. Promiscuous men are just as responsible for the sexual degeneracy in women as the women are. Granted, the 80/20 rule shifts this blame onto a select group of men, but there are plenty of betas who have resigned themselves to the game being "rigged," and indulge their own lust under the guise of "that's just the way it is now days" and "women now days are not worth it."
See:
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>>69175210
Good thread on this topic: >>68583736
Masturbation is also degenerate and should be discouraged at an early age, and porn should be heavily restricted if not abolished if we want a shot at repairing the damage that traditional relationships have sustained in the last few decades.
>>69175754
this is true and I would go as far to say that anyone that has partaken in either from a young age is DISQUALIFIED from being able to successfully marry EVER for the rest of their life.
you made yourself a eunuch, live with it and become celibate
you're no better than a "reformed slut" woman and it's a shame if you even try to marry
this goes for most people on 4chan period.
>>69175754
>pre-martial sex
>betas resigning themselves to the game being rigged
Can you clarify, I'm not sure how betas contribute to this form of degeneracy
>porn should be abolished
Fuck off I'm free to watch what I please.
Freedom ain't free, the laptop screen gotta be glistening with the seed of patriots.
>>69175754
>"Orgasms come at a price" meme
Oh go and felch a nigger you retarded piece of shit.
>>69176036
You're an idiot
>>69176257
eunuch detected
you know it's true
all these marriage threads on /pol/ are beyond the point when people who post it are usually castrated in one way or another.
>>69175754
I wouldn't mind marrying a women. But I'm not going to spend the rest of my life in misery listening to some siren scream about how I'm not doing enough for her just so that she go sleep with Jamal behind my back. I'll take being a degenerate over that future any time.
>>69176788
celibacy is for you
I suspect most people on /pol/ are better fit for that path
>>69176939
It actually does make me sad. But thats the only future I see.
>>69174722
you shouldn't do either anon. Only Jews and brainswashed men do these things.
>>69177165
then just stop being an incel and use what sexual energy you have left to do something radical.
move offgrid and become a hermit. Join a monastery or become a priest. Become a professor or teacher to millions of children that aren't your own. etc.
but honestly if you're a typical channer even years of no-fap won't undo the damage that was already done.
>>69174722
Essentially, sex is good and we enjoy it outside of Christian dogma. Maybe you should get laid OP?
>>69177633
people like you are the scourge of modern society, even more so than feminists.
even worse are the people who even realize the benefits of nofap etc. but use it simply as a tool to have better premarital sex (i.e. the "bro science" crowd)
that completely defeats the purpose of it all.
>>69177383
Fuck that. Im banking on a robo waifu. If when the time comes and there is some form of revolt against this decline into hell, then I'll join it. Till then, its just me and my left hand versus the world.
>>69176036
>>69176357
>>69176939
>>69177383
Right on. Are you baiting or do you walk the talk?
>>69176179
>Can you clarify, I'm not sure how betas contribute to this form of degeneracy
So you know how the 80/20 rule means 80 percent of women sleep with top 20 percent of guys (aka, the alphas)? I'm talking about the non-alphas who still participate in pre-marital sex. Celibate betas do not contribute to the problem, except maybe through white knighting.
>Fuck off I'm free to watch what I please.
See the thing is porn doesn't free you from lust, it actually fuels it and leads to further frustration. Not only in the sense that all porn is cuck porn, but in the sense that you still place importance on the reproductive act as a form of recreation.
Least degenerate option is porn-less masturbation. Porn with no-fap is arguably worse.
>>69176236
>felch
Fuck you for making me look that up.
>>69176788
>I'll take being a degenerate over that future any time.
And I'll have love for you either way. I'm not judging, just calling a spade a spade. I'm no saint myself. Question is, why not just abstain from sex? Can we as men really not overcome the "muh dick" logic?
>>69177383
>use what sexual energy you have left to do something radical.
>move offgrid and become a hermit. Join a monastery or become a priest.
This is correct. Not so sure about teacher/professor, as you have to be pretty cucked to survive in that profession now days unless you teach in a rural setting with based (non-SJW) parents.
>>69177914
another left-handed person?
I'm convinced there's something unnatural about being a leftie and our ancestors are right.
I seriously worry that schools eliminating forcing students to train with their right hand caused a subtle increase in general deviancy in society.
I say this as an autistic, half Jewish left-handed person. I seriously believe I'm cursed. Another reason why I don't think I'm fit for marriage.
>>69178162
I worry about the loneliness I will suffer when I'm older and somewhat still wish I could have a wife but i KNOW deep down that I gave up that right a loong time ago over my adolescence and I shouldn't do it for the greater good.
am I wrong?
>>69177914
>If when the time comes and there is some form of revolt against this decline into hell, then I'll join it.
Question is, will you be of any use or will you be too far enslaved to your own lust and the importance you've placed on the reproductive act?
Be the change you want to see and all. Do you see how your argument boils down to "muh dick"?
>>69178219
Actually, I'm right handed. I just use my left hand when I masturbate. I have no idea why, it is the only thing I only use my left hand for.
"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell."
You have to imagine in your mind the hand gesture he might have been making when he said this, then it makes more sense.
>>69178473
I get it. I do. But I'm dont go out actively looking for quick lays or one nighters. Masturbation is usually something I do only if it bothers me or I want to get rid of surprise boners.
You cannot be free of degeneracy unless you are a righteous man.
>>69177757
So you're just a virgin that is resentful that actively human people get laid. What a piece of fucking work! Fuck off
>>69178922
honestly most people here should consider getting chemically or physically castrated and they'd probably be happier that way. I'm completely serious I just wish I had the balls to do it (pun intended)
>>69178414
>am I wrong?
Hey I think we've crossed paths again. See trip from this thread: >>68583736
And, no, you're not wrong. Though if you're the person I'm thinking you are (interested in Dee and Bacon, had Indian ex-gf), your case is nowhere near as degenerate as you make it out to be.
Though I sympathize with doing it for the greater good. I say if you're doing it for the greater good, do so un-apologetically (i.e., don't do so just because plan A failed).
If you have any lingering desire for the path of fidelity and marriage, go seek that out. Try and fail rather than suppress. It can come back to haunt you and then you'll be a 50 year old man trying to recapture his adolescent in more degenerate ways.
Interesting theory about handed-ness too. I think you brought it up in one of Constantine's threads as well. Left-handedness has a long history of association with occult forces. It is a force that can be sublimated toward divine pursuits but you have to be very vigilant and knowledgeable about your own predilections.
If you seriously think you're cursed, pray to the Lord about it. It is He alone who can see you through the trials of any misery that befalls you. Ask not for a quick fix, but for the strength to resolve the inner demons and propel yourself into His remembrance at all times. Technology obsession and reliance makes this a bitch to accomplish but don't stop trying.
>>69179100
and honestly, no righteous man would use 4chan or the internet once they realize this.
>>69179100
Really? Your language is that of Nazi Germany where the women were encouraged to have sex on the graves without marriage to invoke the ghosts of the ancestors. You don't even know where your language comes from. Fucking tard!
>>69174722
>1 Corinthians 6:18-20
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
>Romans 13:13-14
Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.
>>69174722
>pre-martial sex
Bad
>masturbation
Fine as long as you don't watch porn
>>69179558
>Sins against his own body.
Masturbation.
>>69178925
Gotcha. I'm not judging you or scorning you at all. I've been trapped in that mindset for a huge chunk of my life (and Lord knows I'm no where near safe from falling into it again), but I found that tough love/advice was really what I needed in those moments but something I never got. Just thought I'd help in a non-traditional way. The whole "sex/masturbation all the time is awesome" hug box that the internet creates is really numbing to our minds so if my words seem harsh it's only to contrast with the drone of the status quo.
Best of luck to you in reaching your goals; you're gonna make it :)
>>69179595
Pretty good Puerto Rico. For modern times this is the best we're gonna get. I no masturbation is the ideal.
>>69179558
Beautiful. I never knew this was the source of "your body is a temple."
>>69180049
Thanks bro. Fighting the good fight.
>>69179558
>make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.
What a powerful commandment. We should strive to live up to this ideal. I really like these quotes.
>>68583736
Masturbation is acting on lust
Premarital sex is directly forbidden
A reading of the Bible as infallible forbids both, and this is the correct way to read it.
It is very important to keep perspective, only salvation through Christ and the guidance of the Holy Spirit can conquer sin in your life. Trying human means to being perfect is an aimless effort.
>>69178675
Same it's a habit from using my right hand to control the mouse. You prob far to pictures not videos right?
>>69181508
maybe the technology was explicity designed to MAKE people conditioned to being left-handed because it causes the opposite brain hemisphere to degenerate
I can't exactly compare because I'm a left handed writer. I do eat with my right hand curiously enough though.
I'm curious to see if anyone born left-handed has tried going several months writing with only the right and experienced a personality change.
>>69174722
onanists and fornicators should die by the sword.
>>69181875
I could try this with my left. Although I'm not sure if I could write with my left
>>69182409
I wouldn't do it, I'm more curious to see left handed people trying to abstain from using the left.
Also I wonder how the youngest generation, which is growing up with typing and texting (using both hands equally ) over handwriting, is being effected neurologically by this.
of course this is pretty much impossible to tell given that phones themselves are probably worse for the brain than using both hands equally
>>69174722
Both are degenerate and forbidden in all cases.
Anyone interested in further reading should look into Saints Augustine and Jerome, as they have dealt extensively with degeneracy in their own lives, and have some pretty powerful insights into the nature of this beast.
>>69181875
I've recently heard that the whole different hemispheres of the brain control different aspects of cognition theory is bunk pseudo-science. Maybe you should look into it if it plays such a heavy role in your thinking.
Also, was I right that we have run into each other before? here >>68583736 where I used the same trip?
If so, I was going to ask if you could share some links about Bacon/Dee and occult codes hidden in the English language. Was going to ask but then thread got archived.
I do find that when I read and study ancient languages/scriptures, I'm much more at peace and less prone to degeneracy to a notice-able degree.
>>69183274
I don't think this is a good thread for that, this deserves its own thread and will probably get lots of bumps from the Eternal Anglo spammer.
but it's basically true, English is disordered and there's a lot of studies linking language to psychology (in the modern world obviously).
A lot of scholars of the ancient world didn't believe in racialism, rather they saw LANGUAGE as what defined a people on a level deeper than just what they sound like. And this ties in with the tower of Babel story. Bible never says explicitly that it was about races and race mixing, but rather Language and the confusion of it.
>>69174722
Absolutely degenerate. Nofap day 9 here.
>>69174722
Both are mortal sins. However Pre-martial is also sinning against your future wife rather then just yourself.
>>69174722
ruse to get christians to have more kids but cant work since muslims just have multipule wives lmao
>>69184549
Since I went to confession last Tuesday Nofap has never been easier.
>>69174722
Sex = marriage according to he bible, when a man went into a women in the bible that was his wife, if he just felt like having a rape tendacy then that women was still his wife and he was ordered to take care if her forever also pay the dad, he was also watched to make sure he didn't play a fool with her l. Masturbation Is sin and should be above as it can pervert your sex life with your wife and you will fall into the sin if sexual peversion, it is also addicting and as far as I am concerning anything addicting that effects your mental or spiritual state is a sin.
Fuck off puritan shits.
>>69174722
Your actions are to be a reflection of the grace you have been given by God.
>>69185016
the first line is completely true
which is why really, if you've had premarital sex once you should never marry, period. you already divorced.
And modern wedding ceremony is pagan bullshit, it's really a ritual about the rings of saturn and the Jews run the diamond industry.
Good luck getting anyone (even most Christians) to see this though.
>>69183946
You should make that thread at some point. Sounds very interesting, hope I catch it.
>>69185016
Interesting. Was it common for marriages to be arranged in biblical times? What was the fate of a woman who had sex with multiple men?
>>69181875
Lefty here, I tried using my right hand for weeks and didn't feel anything
>>69183274
Top poster 9/10
>>69174722
It's absolutely degenerate and if you don't you're an athiests deserving of punishment
>>69186242
*Do it
>>69186242
this is the reality:
all users on 4chan should be killed for the greater good of mankind. What better way to mark those who don't deserve life? Me included
>>69185550
But you also have the option of divorce if your partner indulged in adultery. Which would count as a western woman would fuck any scumbag after your secular relationship was over.
Not saying this is a free pass. As believer in Messiah we should not fornicate, I am just saying.
>>69181322
checked and underrated post
>>69186628
well yeah, divorce is fine if they cheat, but not remarriage, ever.
and technically if you've even had ONE sexual relationship you are disqualified from ever marrying without living in sin your whole life
>>69186750
Proof please
>>69174722
I've masturbated to porn, I've had pre-marital sex. I'm abstaining from porn though and doing no fap.
Are there people here who think someone in my situation should go metaphorically eunuch? Why? Nobody is bringing up the fact how corrupt the marriage industry has become and how giving governments the power over divorce courts has killed it.
>>69187401
Don't justify it
>>69187401
I brought up both and I think both are valid.
the meaning of marriage has been lost for over a century.
>>69174722
I'm a protestant lol.
>>69187526
and by both I mean the fact that you should seriously consider celibacy over marriage, and also that the marriage industry is death
>>69187516
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>>69187526
The problem is, its all well and good to preach these things over the internet, but its actually WORSE for society if recovering men and women if any go on here follow them, the degenerates aren't going to follow chastity, why should people who are resign themselves to a life alone when they have learned from here? Celibacy is a useful tool to purge degeneracy from yourself but you shouldn't give up the option of family forever.
Marriage however being in the hands of the legal system and government needs to change and is quite urgent for such.
>>69187867
which btw is why I've begun to take seriously the idea that in the end of days pretty much all married people are sinners and it's the celibate who lead the way (though this is not the case for most of history)
people marry and give in marriage etc etc as in the days of noah.
>>69188170
there are religious groups which opt out of government controlled marriage. I know the Amish do it, and Christians of several denominations can get covenant marriages in some US states which are outside state jurisdiction
>>69188170
also yes sorry I'm being somewhat of a hypocrite extremist mostly because I belive I myself am condemned to this fate
>>69186725
Thanks Canadabro, God bless you in your dealings with your political climate
>>69174722
the bible actually says to get married if you can't control your base urges. not sure if being divorced and cucked was a thing back in the bible days though.
>>69189793
yep, and this is why arranged marriage is really the right way to go.
you didn't have to compete in a darwinistic game back then to get a wife, you could just get a wife.
Say this today and you'll be accused of being either a muslim or a basement-dwelling loser who wants his mommy to do everything for him.
>>69190103
Arranged marriage will solve beta uprising for sure.
>>69174722
I might fuck once just to see what's it's like but then again I have a weird pride in being able to call myself a virgin and hesitant to give it up. If you're unmarried and have sex a lot, especially with different people, you are degenerate.
Either I marry by the time I'm 30 or I don't marry at all. Marriage is so risky these days I might not get married at all.
I have reduced fapping to once a week. In the future I might end up going full celibate.
I don't get how to use this faggot website
