How do we stop western males from "going their own way"? It seems like this generation forgot what it means to be a man and are just a bunch of whiney man babies who play video games all day.
Find a girl, MAN UP and marry her and have lots of babies. The future of the West depends on it fellas
>>69167010
>HURR DURR NOBODY CARES IF YOU GO YOUR OWN WAY
Yes you do. Hence threads like these. Hence your spergy rage every time MGTOW is even mentioned. You talk about it without provocation, mostly.
Protip: You telling guys to MAN UP and worship women on 4chan won't achieve anything. Keep stewing in your frustration, loser.
Marriage just isn't worth it these days.
The fear of getting cucked or having the rug pulled out from under my feet is keeping me from getting in to a serious relationship.
>>69167010
When marriages become worthwhile again and having kids has a high chance of them not turning into millenial faggots I might think again.
Make marriages fair again and not baised in womens favour
that or bring patriarchal societies back and make fathers words being final, including for who any whore gets to marry
I want to gay marry a cute guy and love him forever. :)
>>69167010
>MAN UP
Kek. Its all the man fault somehow.
>>69167229
>>69167404
>>69167447
>>69167576
/thread
we are done being screwed by law.
>>69167010
>on /pol/
>thinking anyone on here is able to convince someone to be their gf let alone marry them
>>69167404
Of course Sweden would say that. You might give up repopulating, but the refugees sure as hell won't. Fight the good fight man.
>>69167010
The irony here is that you complain about men who complain about how society screws them over, yet MGTOW doesn't give a flying shit what you think.
>>69167010
>the "real men do x" card
Mgtow are basically sjw at this point.
>>69168088
You act like this is confined to /pol/
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/jul/25/marriage-young-europeans-austerity
>>69167010
Become a Christian. Join a Christian dating site. Find a decent Christian woman. Profit.
is there such thing as WGTOW? I feel like I know some bitter dykes who fall into this category
marry if you love someone
pretty simple.
when i am not driven to couple what energy am i about. do i still have mojo
>>69168411
Never thought of this might try. Thanks fellow maple bro
>>69167010
Cry more, whale.
Head back to tumblr anytime.
But what if you're gay.
>>69167010
>Gambling half your assets and income on the whims of a modern woman.
You may as well just set fire to half your stuff. This is a trend that will continue until divorce laws are fundamentally rewritten so they dont overwhelmingly favor the woman.
>>69167010
People with lower IQs have more children.
>>69168419
Yeah it's called feminism
>>69168279
Yet MGTOW are easily the most triggered and butthurt of all the internet clubs when you call out the fact that it's not them rejecting women but women rejecting their dead beat asses
>>69167010
pic related
>Neet autists who don't even look women in the eyes scolding normal people for not marrying
>>69167010
>The future of the West depends on it fellas
the future is brown. your crotch fruit will have to live in that. don't be a dick and force them to deal with that.
>>69168737
Here's your reply
>>69167010
Similarly, women are parasitic entities by nature.
>>69168641
Also this, a sad reality of human nature.
>>69168668
MGTOW =/= avoiding women, it means refusing to enter into an LTR and rely on hookups and escorts if the opportunity comes.
>>69168543
Found my wife on Christiancafe, shes not perfect but god damn am I glad she is not degenerate in any way. I have her fully red pilled. God bless her.
>>69167010
>Find a girl, MAN UP and marry her and have lots of babies. The future of the West depends on it fellas
Not really. First, fix the laws that require divorce to divide resources equally instead of % of earnings: % of materials
>>69167010
MGTOW is a tiny proportion of very vocal whining retards just like postmodern/third wave feminists.
And most MGTOW men would never successfully breed anyways- they're either infertile numales or gay, so I don't care. Either way even the fertile ones would have genetically degenerated bastard spawn who show a marked reduction in intellect.
To any male who wants to get married: Don't get a state-issued marriage license.
The purpose of those is to redistribute your assets to women. If you get into a divorce, you will always lose assets during your divorce settlement.
However, you could still go to church and get married the old fashioned way.
Before the 20th century, almost no one in the US got these governmental marriage license because they didn't even exist in most states.
Fuck the west
>>69169100
>Don't get a state-issued marriage license.
It doesn't matter. Have you heard of common law? After 6 months she owns half your shit regardless.
I don't know, man. Women weren't interested in me until I got a nice title, a nicer job and an apartment with a great view. Now some are literally asking me out (in Finland of all places where the man is always supposed to ask the girl out) so I'm pretty sure they're not after me for my personality or looks. That wouldn't be a problem if it was 50 or 60 years ago, but the woman simply has too much leverage these days, so fuck it.
I've been with many girls. The truth is that life is for nothing. None of this matters.
>>69167010
I have a generational heart disease. I wont live past 55, and neither will anyone on my mothers side. I wouldnt have had kids anyway. MGTOW is just a way to skip that awkward conversation.
>>69167010
>OP brought to you by MGTOWforums.com
>>69167010
>How do we stop western males from "going their own way"?
Don't allow divorce
Don't let women have jobs
There, done and done.
>>69169270
I heard common law marriages are not even as nearly as common in US as they are in Canada.
I don't consider myself MGTOW but I kind of am by default. I work out a lot, have a respectable amount of money, ambition & I approach girls fairly regularly. It just doesn't pan out. I get googly eyes from fat, unattractive women but I just don't see that compromise as a respectable one.
I legit have mental health issues like bipolar and extreme social anxiety which aren't being solved by doctors. I still flirt with girls but I'm lacking charisma because of my crippling fear & dearth of social network. Sometimes you just have to play the hand you're dealt. I know this might not resonate with "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" folks who've never experienced this level of adversity.
>>69169313
How about you get off the computer and go for a walk.
>>69169448
Im thin as a stick, its not fat that causes it. Its not the heart either, transplants dont fix it, as my grandparents generation showed. My mothers generation have already started to drop.
But I do walk. an hour to college and an hour back every day, rain or snow. Gas is expensive.
>>69168279
Yeah, pretty much. Young males these days are little dudebros that were raised to idolize and worship women. So when people get angry at MGTOW, it's just projection. The little dudebros feel insecure on some level - they KNOW that they shouldn't worship women and they KNOW that men are the dominant sex - yet they were raised to worship women, and they can't let their egos admit that they were wrong all this time.
![16662955-Teen-girl-showing-middle-finger-on-a-white-background-Stock-Photo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/48lhZ8M.jpg "16662955-Teen-girl-showing-middle-finger-on-a-white-background-Stock-Photo[1].jpg")
>>69167010
fuck off you whiny betas, isn't there a sub-reddit for you?
Why would I get into relationships?
Sounds like a hassle where I don't get anything out of it other than sex, while she is spending my money and time
Doesn't seem worth it
Just remember there are "Think Tanks" that are funded by the like as George Soro who sit around all day thinking up bullshit like this to separate, discriminate and force prejudice upon people.
"Men Going Their Own Way" is cultural suicide.
>>69169448
>GENERATIONAL
It doesn't matter if he is working out/being healthy, it will still fuck him and his sons over. If I was in that position I would just work on shit that I myself found productive.
Which is what I've been doing for the last couple of months, not having a girlfriend really helps with the free time. I've been studying a lot more than I used to plus there's the art and learning japanese deal I've got going.
Many MGTOWs like using that time for their own things.
>>69167010
>future of the west
Its over son. Its too late. Women in the Western world are toxic and sad creatures addicted to the constant high of beta social media validation and the endorphines from getting fucked by Alphas.
Every time a woman has sex with a new man, her ability to pair bond with a man is drastically reduced, to a point where she is unable to "settle", because new dick is one virtual click away.
This coupled with the fact that women now dominate colleges, due to the educational system built to give them the edge over men and the job market being infiltrated with HR and "diversity" bullshit, gives women 0 incentive to find a man in the illusion of being "young and hot" forever.
Western women are starting to have children at 30+, which means that an entire half generation is missing (10 years of kids).
Why should the average Joe even want to settle for some used up slag, or an ugly woman who isnt a virgin?
Whats that? To have kids?
Well guess again, women can no default divorce you for THEM CHEATING ON YOU.
If it looks like youre getting custody of the kids, shell accuse you of rape and she takes the house and kids.
You work your ass off? Guess what, since women think they are entitled to LIFE LONG LOVESTORIES, thanks to the media theyve been spoonfed, she will leave you the second she feels neglected, because her momentary happiness is more important than raising children with the father.
No, fuck Western women.
If you want to raise a family, focus on your career till your 40, then find a cutie latina/polish/russian/asian woman who is serious and raise a family.
>MUH RACE TRAITOR
Life isnt a stormfront leaflet, if you want happiness and you only think that raising children is the sole purpose of your existence, then go for it.
I personally am content with watching the western world self-destruct from the sidelines while enjoying the fruits of the modern world.
>>69168725
moral of the story, like milfs and cuck before you are cucked?
it's a cuck or be cucked world
>>69168630
this is the truth. there is no stopping the momentum of this trend now. i'm very interested in seeing how things play out in 10 or so years from now.
>>69167010
>MAN UP
>get KEKED and don't cry about it
What I don't get is why do you people keep making these threads? Why are you so desperate for attention on this? Isn't the whole point about not caring if you are alone? Then why must you constantly tell people that?
The answer, you DON'T want to be alone, you want validation for your shitty life. I've never had a relationship either, but that's because I'm a piece of shit who can't seem to get someone to like me, and that's all me, no one else.
>>69167404
If you live in a country where judges can literally wipe their asses with a prenup sure.
>Find a girl, MAN UP and marry her and have lots of babies. The future of the West depends on it fellas
Fuck you
>>69169585
Finally, someone with sense here.
>>69169100
>before the 20th century
>before russia turned communist
>before the model T
>before epoch
>>69170029
>What I don't get is why do you people keep making these threads?
The guy who made the threads wasn't MGTOW he was butthurt at the MGTOW people
Learn to reading comprehension
>>69168170
>Literally enslave yourself in the hopes of defeating the boogeyman
>three people in my office got married in the past two years
>two of the wives keep their name and didnt take my buddies' names
>at least one of them hyphenated their name
and they all couldnt be more proud of their wives.
>>69169885
>I personally am content with watching the western world self-destruct from the sidelines while enjoying the fruits of the modern world.
It saddens me that this is the only rational option left.
>>69170146
>The guy who made the threads wasn't MGTOW he was butthurt at the MGTOW people
its a false flag faggot, a MGTOW made this because no one is mad enough to make a thread like this
>>69167010
having kids =/= marriage
the only way to compete with mudslime numbers is having multiple partners
>>69167010
Why not try creating a society that's worth participating in?
>>69170205
dude that picture
>>69170221
>because no one is mad enough to make a thread like this
Very many feminists are angry at MGTOW for not dating and getting married
>>69170029
This thread was made by an anti-MGTOW, we don't really care what you think of us, all I'm doing here is just telling stores and maybe bringing some more men to our side. If they don't want to it's their life. Don't be so pissy.
>>69170214
its all a fuckin joke
>>69168411
How do I find a christian gf If I'm a fedora
>>69170205
DELETE THIS.
>>69169570
Its less than 2 dollars a gallon.
Christchan is the answer. Just find a good churchgoing woman. For fuck sakes people. If you're a nihilist and so is you're GF, WTF do you expect other than degeneracy?
Except Western women are spoiled as shit - the hot ones anyways. The chubbos don't exist in my world and aren't worth it.
Anyways the hot ones don't actually view marriage as a symbol of love and unity. They view it as a symbol of "the guy is gonna pay for my shit and I'm gonna abuse him while offering very little in return."
And that's IF they know what they want. The ones that don't know what they want just randomly go on dates for free food. I started splitting the check with them and it's hilarious how some of them react lmaoo
My Tinder avg is actually pretty good. Around 30-40% success rate but I don't wanna have anything to do with these chicks after we bang for a few times.
If they are physically attractive, they are a mental mess. Or vice versa.
It's just so much easier being single.
>>69168543
Scoped out qt3.14s at Easter mass. Been out of the faith for a while but after thinking of returning then seeing the wholesome white community and lovely ladies at church I am going back
>>69167010
Undo the sexual revolution, no other way. You broke down the fabric of society in the form of nuclear family and enabled women to act solely on instinct and the moment without any repercursions or consequences and they went completely haywire.
Short of that, nothing will change and nobody is willing to go back to that for various reasons.
>>69167010
There is no stopping it. Western women have been transformed into shameless sluts with a superiority complex. Western men have been turned into betas who are not permitted to behave masculine. While the sluts take turns with chad, betas either give up on sex, become faggots, or kill themselves.
>>69170293
>>Very many feminists are angry at MGTOW for not dating and getting married
top kek, give me the evidence then.
>>69170301
>we don't really care what you think of us
then why are you in this thread nigga?
>>69170339
youre going to die tonight
>>69170312
??? there are ways than the fedora.
>>69169706
>not understanding that good relationships arent centered around sex
>>69170342
What fucking state do you live in, its almost 3 in Pennsylvania and I work part time while trying not to wrack up a debt with college. I study on the way over so its not like its a waste of time.
I agree. The MGTOW crowd are a bunch of sad cucks who have given up on life.
>>69170548
u wot
>>69170293
...that doesn't make any fucking sense, so I'm going to go ahead and say no.
This is just some made up bullshit because MGTOW want to think that they have some big impact, like a little kid saying "I'm going to run away from home and then they'll be sad!"
In reality the kind of men who join the MGTOW movement aren't actually desired by anyone and there are literally zero women lusting after them.
>>69170205
I hate when that happens, that picture triggered me
>I best go back to tumblr
>>69170459
I LITERALLY SAID WHAT I WAS DOING HERE.
>>69170382
Please don't join the church just to get some piece of ass, do it because you believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ and the great things the church and god has done to you and your community.
>>69170555
What are they centered around then?
I matter to me
>>69169885
Friend's dad is anesthesiologist.
Gets paid a fuckton.
Married a chick who was smoking hot. After a few years she let go and became fat.
He got pissed off because he still worked out and was into the healthy lifestyle. She didn't care.
He went on to find more attractive slimmer chicks. Wife found out. Demanded divorce. Kids mad at father even though he paid for everyone including stay as home housewife.
My friend sorta understands (it's him who I got the story from).
Wife won the house. Friend's dad moved out.
Don't you love our culture? Retarded for being lazy.
>>69170394
We are all of the same cloth, many were weaved differently however. The media, education and people in power control the basic template for a child's personality. A father or mother working a horrible job to barely make ends meet are also a bad template for chidlren to be programmed with.
>>69170312
You don't. You just die off like all the others.
>>69170350
>Just find a good churchgoing woman.
That's only sane advice for good churchgoing men. Fedoras are wasting their time with that.
I expect to have mixed kids with my black GF
>>69169628
You could have at least posted a pic of a superior white woman, not a shitskinned brown beaner slut.
>>69167010
I am lovelorn by a woman succumb by modern temptations. The stories I have would rage pol.
>>69167447
Don't stop please, we need more Brazilian tranny porn.
>>69170970
>no prenup
>>69170459
He literally just said.
Nigga.
>>69171038
Fedoras are fucked then. They have no chance if they want to remain a fedora.
>>69170214
>>69170309
The best advice I can give anyone (Im 28 and almost got married once):
>The most valuable skill a man can acquire is being capable of being content on his own.
Enjoy the ride while it lasts.
>>69167010
All white women date and fuck non-whites and party and do drugs. I'm not getting myself involved with that. Oh well, guess the West will be non-white now.
>>69169885
You're angry and correct.
>>69169958
>feminists will bitch and moan about how men dont want to get married
>Marriage rates will continue to plummet
>bachelor tax will be created
>bros will marry their bros to avoid bachelor tax and get tax breaks
>feminists will be triggered by faggots
>the left continues to eat itself
Its gonna be great
>>69171186
Prenups can get thrown out of court as of 2015.
>>69170970
Yup. Ive heard many stories like that.
Never get married. Ever. You can have kids, but never marry her.
>>69170878
I remember a study done that said the number one thing those in happy marriages said they liked about their marriage was the friendship between them and their significant other
Makes sense too. Ive only dated people close to me, and all my relationships have lasted years
>>69171729
Oh, that requires communicating though, I'd much rather be alone
>>69171038
Im an atheist, dating a good, churchgoing (read: bluepilled) grill
>>69171946
>that requires communicating though
what the fuck is wrong with that? Do you not know our species has survived for so long on our ability to empathize? I assume you have some sort of autism, I do as well, and I can tell you the world opened up to me greatly when I over came it. Try some acting classes and talk to people.
>>69171729
That is the key concept of marriage.
People nowadays are lied to by their own body.
>meet a girl
>fall head over tits in love
>get that instinctive feeling
>have sex like rabbits
>3-5 times a day
>fastforward
>1 year later
>the "honeymoon phase" is over
>start being annoyed at her shit
>the sex isnt great anymore
>resent her
>break up/cheat
Whats wrong with that picture?
Thats right.
>CONTRACEPTION
The honeymoon phase is supposed to be followed up by pregnancy. People nowadays say:
>Oh well we grew apart
>The sex wasnt great anymore
The truth is that the chemicals that simulate love get weaker after 6-10 months.
Then instead of having kids, people break up meet someone new and rinse and repeat until they are 30 and settle.
>>69167229
>>69167404
>>69167447
>>69167986
Agreed 100%
It has gotten worse thanks to feminism being pushed extra fucking hard by the media.
Even dating a woman is a huge risk, if you dont prove that you didn't rape her. YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL!. How the fuck is a man supposed to survive?
>>69172197
I can communicate just fine, I would just rather not have to do it. I don't know if I am able to empathize.
To all the men here demanding virgin women: Remember that you aren't entitled to a woman's body, just like a gay man isn't entitled to your body.
Regarding virginity, I hope that you too are a virgin because that would just make you a hypocrite if you aren't one.
>b-but all women are whores!
According to my research, 2/3's of people who waited till marriage to have sex are female. Men, on average, also have nearly double the amount of sexual partners over the course of their lifetimes than women do.
Stop being such childish hypocrites and blaming all your problems on women.
>>69167010
Why the fuck should I ever settle for a woman who's had other men's cocks in her? I literally don't understand this shit.
It's weird and wrong. I don't want to put my dick in the hole some other dude's cum has dribbled out of. Worse, I don't want her to give me STDs and other nasty infectious shit.
My parents actually got incredibly angry at me for this and called me a raging puritan. I couldn't really care less, they want their perfect boomer family with me giving them grandkids to fawn over. I say fuck 'em, their generation spawned and propogated this societal cancer we have now called SJWism, hard feminism, regressive left, whatever the fuck you wanna call it.
In addition, divorce rates are through the roof in quite a few western nations, mine included. In these divorces, men get dicked hard by judges because they're men. So getting married is essentially handing a financial knife to a woman and hoping she doesn't stab me with it so she can lap the blood (cash) from my dying body. You'll forgive me if I don't trust any millenial with that - the bunch of club slut, histronic, anti-white anti-male anti-fun group of self-loving hypocrites they are.
You want me to change because you don't like what I'm doing? How about you make the institution of marriage and parenthood benefit me at all in any way - and not be a net detriment even if I get to raise kids that look like me (surprise even that isn't certain. If he aint got your eyes and hair, fuck no you can't test him because XD thats sexist)
>>69171729
>>69172197
>just communicate :^)
White women would rather stay in an abusive relationship with Tyrone and be is 13th baby momma side girl than be your only one. All white women go through high school and college doing this. Only the lucky ones don;t have kids with them and move on to date beta white guys for money.
No woman can deny this.
ban the whole internet, especially 4chan and any and all anonymous forums
>>69170205
>Not making your bed your chair
People don't know how comfy this shit is.
>>69167010
I don't want to be part of MGTOW but I'm forced to. Because I'm a beta loser who no woman would look at to begin with. So I don't even try and do my own thing. Because I have no other choice.
>>69172390
Do you watch anime, not being a jokester here, you know when they fight the bad anime with the power of friendship? That's pretty much what empathy is, our ability to care about our fellow human, and have them care about us. This creates what is called synergy, where the sum is greater than the whole of the parts. With this, humans have overcome many odds and have survived for a long time despite us not being powerfull as say a bear or an alligator.
>>69172751
Yes, ban free speech. Leave shit like tinder and dating sites alone though.
>>69171477
Western society hates males, so of course a "bachelor tax" would ONLY target males. There would never be a bachelorette tax, ever.
Even now, whether people mention "MGTOW" or not, 95 percent of the narrative goes against men. Even on the Internet. People say white males dominate the Interney yet I see NO proof of that. The Internet is full of people whining that men won't "be real men" and date women anymore. I've googled different search terms about this, and it all comes up the same: people blame men for all this and refuse to hold women accountable AT ALL.
>MGTOW
>any single mother I want
also abolish compulsory education
public school has every bit as much to blame in the cause of this as things like porn and media.
Because it delays the proper age for marriage and pair bonding by pushing career-ism and "success" over family.
>>69167010
>Find a girl...
And now you see the problem. There are no ladies. There are no women. There are no good girls. They're all single mothers already. They all cheat. And divorce to ruin a man for no reason than other than they can.
So fuck you, OP. Fuck you very much. It's not men leaving women. It's women leaving men. Fix women and you fix the fucking problem.
>>69172843
No I don't watch anime, I don't see the purpose of caring for anyone else, I don't know if I even can, I'm very content with living alone and dying alone, I need to emphasize that being alone does not necessarily mean being lonely.
>Women never actually "love" their man, it's all an act to get money, stability, etc
>Your kids will be out of control faggots because degeneracy is now at a touch of a screen and your parenting skills are now just 1% of what will influence them, aka nothing.
>No one will ever love you. Once you grow up into a man, no one will ever truly love you again. You are just a means to an end. As soon as you stop being able to provide you'll see their true colors.
>The last person who ever actually loved you was your mom, if that.
>>69172292
>Even dating a woman is a huge risk, if you dont prove that you didn't rape her. YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL!. How the fuck is a man supposed to survive?
Get her to send you a text.
>>69172041
I need your wisdom, pal.
It's simple, most women offer nothing beyond sex these days, and considering how easy it is to get laid, because women are pathetic and easy, a relationship is a waste of time.
>>69172787
Don't think of yourself that way, you can do better, and next time try to improve yourself for YOURSELF.
Try studying a field that you have great interest in, work harder on your job and earn promotions to get more money to spend on yourself, your life does not revolve 100% on society and what other people think of you.
Don't do this for women, do it because you want to. We're all in this together, man.
>>69167010
Nah OP, youre clearly a sexually inexperienced faggot. If you knew the true nature of women in this era, youd check out too.
Ive been in a two year relationship with a vietnamese girl whose parents dipped from a war-torn country. They are traditional as fuck, dad is super alpha patriarch, and this bitch is STILL A CUNT!!! She grew up in america.
Its not worth it. I just wanna watch the world burn. Fuck relationships and fuck brining children into this world.
>>69171186
>this meme still
Just google it for 10 seconds you goddamn retard. They. Do. Not. Work.
>>69173191
women never "loved" like a man does a woman.
romance is a lie, it was the first form of feminism
and romantic love led to the decay of arranged marriage and marriage with a REAL purpose
this coincides with capitalism and industrialism. Marriage used to be about DUTY and it was a CONTRACT between two families, not just two individuals. And it was NOT based on love.
other cultures still understand this.
>>69173168
>"waaah life is so hard"
Seriously, If you worked for a living instead of "PLAYING VIDEO GAMES ALL DAY" you would realize this is all bullshit.
Stop being a whiny entitled cunt.
>>69167010
When women stop being professional victims, stop ruining marriages with their selfishness and cheating, stop marrying men to divorce them and take all their shit, and stop being mudsharking coalburners I'll consider it.
inb4 insecure replies because I called out your manipulative bullshit.
>>69172197
>take some acting classes anf pretend to have emotions
>what is sociopath
The "Men Gripping Their Own Weiners" movement is a bunch of betas with no good genes to contribute anyway. Let them.
Who the hell cares, just live your fuckin life. Get married or don't, people will shit on you no matter what.
>>69172488
I'm not a virgin, I've taken two girls' virginities and slept with them a few more times.
But literally why oh why would I ever sleep with a girl who has slept with someone else? There's no reason, unless I'm bored, willing to get drunk, and horny. Then I can take some club girl home.
Why would I want to raise kids with a girl who has some other man's genetic imprint in her? This has been proven with studies, if any sperm comes ino the female vagina it leaves its genetic markers - congrats you're literally a cuck if you have a baby with a woman who has ever had a BF that slept with her. You're raising a patchwork quilt of a child, stitched together from other mens' cum mixed with your own. A disgusting thought.
>>69172623
Really read the shit you just said
You're meming too hard bro
>>69173695
You just don't get it.
The world is rotten, our values are invalidated because of our "Race and Gender" despite the numerous times being stated it is a "Social Construct" by the hypocrites themselves.
People are fed up and do not care what the Landwhales or Boomers think. Men are dropping out en masse out of disgust and doing their own shit. Electronic media is frankly all that people have left now due to the other censuring on the above points.
>>69172488
any one who has looked at porn and demystified to what sex is AT ALL is not a real virgin.
virginity implies mental innocence as well.
everyone here is better off being celibate than marrying a virgin and ruining them and having a failure of a marriage
>>69167010
MGTOWs are one step away from turning into the male versions of political lesbians
Most modern women violate these important rules.
I would ignore rule 6 though I have no experience with redheads yet.
>>69173962
Don't worry they'll soon take the internet from young men too, and anime thanks to PTP or whatever bastard incarnation of that sinful document they're pushing now, and they're already ruining the fun in video games.
>>69173863
LOL
None of you have figured out yet that MGTOW is a direct result of feminism.
>>69174116
we should let them.
that's the real redpill
the only way to save men is to let feminists and leftists shit all over their bread and circuses until they have to do something in real life
>>69170312
Lie
>>69173934
It's 100% factually accurate. Have you seen how young women act today? Have you been in a US high school in the past five years?
>>69174140
That's old news.
Doesn't stop real men from wanting to be with women.
It's about finding one that's worthwhile and making her think you're worth her while.
>>69173897
I agree with you except the bit about the sperm. that's some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard, and you should be ashamed of yourself
whores are the answer to most of life's questions, where they have been legalized
>>69173962
No, YOU don't get it.
The world has always been rotten. No one has ever given a shit about you, or anyone else. If you're not man enough to go out, get a job, a car, and a home, then get a woman and make her stay with you (spoiler alert, women actually like a dominate man who wants to control them), you'll get the pussy and make babies. It's been that way for fucking ever and you are using this as an excuse to stay in your room, and bitch about it on /pol/.
>>69167010
Just completely strip women of all power in human relationships and you have a deal.
>>69172946
>shoplift the pootie
That boy is going to grow up to be a mangina and you're helping his mother turn him into one.
>>69174348
>he doesnt know about recent findings of micro-chimerism in the female body when coming in contact with semen
>>69167010
>fellas
faggot detected
>>69174377
You're missing the point.
Yes, this has indeed been how things always were, but one thing is different now: we live in the information age. Men can access and read about how the world is stacked against them and, surprise, they opt out.
The pull yourselves up by the bootstraps approach is dead. It's time to accept that. Like it or not, this is the future.
![1-curb-stomp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yXzteBC.jpg "1-curb-stomp[1].jpg")
>>69167010
>Find a girl, MAN UP and marry her and have lots of babies. The future of the West depends on it fellas
Or we could deport the shit skins, and have boot parties for the ones that want to leave the hard way.
>>69174735
the information itself is the cause of the problems
99% of people on earth (including white people) were never even meant to READ. They were hardworking illiterate peasants
then the modern age crammed their brains with too much information for their peasant heads to handle and that is why we have all the problems we do.
we all think we're too "smart" and "informed" to do anything in reality.
Ignorance is literally bliss, the less information the less paralyzed you are and the more in control you are of your life.
Interesting article from the female perspective. A woman has had lots of Chads and Jamals and now wants a "Nice Guy".
>Dear Nice Guy,
>I don’t know you yet but I’m so ready to date you. Seriously, I am. For a long time, I dated bad boys. Yes, I was that girl you blame for always coming in last. I guess I dated bad boys because, somehow, I liked their unavailability, sexy sideways glances, and late-night calls. I fed off the chase and mystery they provided me. I saw them as a challenge that I always happily accepted.
>Let me tell you, I’ve dated so many jerks throughout the years. A lot of times, I ended up being disappointed with how it ended with them, and wondered why I always had such blind optimism about these guys I clearly knew were jerks to begin with.
>But to be honest, I don’t regret any of it now.
http://thoughtcatalog.com/anonymous/2014/04/dear-nice-guy-i-wasnt-ready-for-you-before-but-i-am-now/
>How do we stop western males from "going their own way"?
Make women not be influenced by feminism and SJWs
>>69174986
>But to be honest, I don’t regret any of it now.
Into the trash with that one.
>>69174986
her job is to educate the next generation and help fight degeneracy and goverment corruption
that is also the REAL PURPOSE OF MGTOW
>>69174986
>I don't regret any of it now
But I do, I don't want some fucked up used blue waffle. I'll consider when you're held to the same standards as I do.
>>69175102
nah you have to make everyone not influenced by media and technology as a whole (regardless of the views/content it pushes)
the Amish are saving the white race for a reason
>>69174986
Again, previous generations did not read shit like this and be able to fathom that they are Option B.
There will be no sucking it up and dealing with it, people will just stay in their rooms, jack off and play vidya, not giving a single shit.
>>69174986
>don't even regret
Good luck finding a self-respecting, financially stable man to even look at you, whore.
>>69172787
Nigga I'm fucking 5'6" and I get laid daily. You need to man the fuck up and stop looking negative, your only excuse is if you're disabled- other then that get the fuck out and improve yourself enough to fuck bitches of the caliber you desire- a 8/10 isnt going to fuck you unless you get your shit together.
>>69174735
Kek. It has nothing to do with the "age of information".
I "went my own way" in 2011, when I broke up with my girlfriend of 4 years. I was gonna marry and live happily ever after, or so I thought.
I had 2 previous LTRs and I honestly had reached the maximum level of confidence, sexual prowess and experience.
I was ready for the next step.
What happened?
She spent the summer on a research ship somehwere in the Atlantic ocean. She claimed to being bullied by the other women and did the only logical thing, she fucked some random dude to "be happy" in the moment.
I saw through her lies within the next phonecall and I broke up with her. She contacted me every week for a year afterwards, but I never looked back.
The point Im trying to make is that Im a good looking and wealthy guy. Im tall and athletic. Im considered funny and intelligent by my peers.
I was cheated on, because 5000miles of distance between her and I was enough for her to fuck another man.
Thats the loyalty to be expected from a woman in this day and age.
Since 2011 I havent actively pursued any woman. I was very angry at the world, but Im not going back to that delusional idea of romance and love.
Marriage is a financial agreement to raise children together, but the arrangement is the same for men as it was 50 years ago, but women can literally do whatever they want.
Im "mgtow", because Im done with women, that has nothing to do with stories I read online, or divorce statistics.
>>69175342
casual sex is no better than being a virgin loser
in fact it's possibly worse because it literally creates more sluts
>>69167010
Women suck and give you shitty diseases like mono and STDs.
I'd rather just play videogames. I've learned my lesson with women. They are a waste of time.
>How do we stop western males from "going their own way"?
Eliminate child support
Eliminate alimony
Either eliminate unlimited divorce or asset splitting when there isn't a legitimate reason such as legally verified domestic abuse or infidelity.
Eliminate female oriented bias in child custody cases
Then and only then will you see marriage and fertility rates rise. Because as it stands right now, it's just fucking stupid for a guy to start a family.
>>69174348
It sounds made up but it's quite possibly true. It honestly sounded like fucking nonsense to me too.
But it turns out it may well be true. Obviously I'm not gonna say 100%, but there are some decent studies which suggest it.
And even without that, I hope you can see where I'm coming from. I really, really don't understand my parents' ideas that it's totally fine for women to sleep around. Fucking bizarre concept.
>>69167010
I know plenty of guys that actually want that, myself included. But The odds of it ending well are between zero and none these days.
The girls i've dated have all been typical of this generation and harbor none of th qualities that would support a long term marriage, let alone support having kids.
Even the girls and women I fuck casually regale me with stories of how shit went wrong with past boyfriends/husbands (or worse current bf/husbands)
Until the current attitude of women changes globally in the first world and they are stopped being allowed to act like petulant children and get their way all the time, nothing will change quickly.
Men are logic based creatures, we don't want drama and bullshit, and if avoiding it means we get more time and money to ourselves then thats the choice a majority are going to take.
>>69167010
>MAN UP
t. 300lb woman
>>69167010
I would rather save my money and take care of myself rather than arguing with a child about trivial things.
>>69175342
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>>69175667
>and this is how Islam happens
I really hope that a group of people can revive Christianity as it was supposed to be.
>>69175171
ATTENTION ALL MGTOW
I INTRODUCE YOU TO YOUR NEW HOME
YOU ARE READY TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL
YOU ARE A PART OF SOMETHING BIGGER WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT YET, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU TOOK THE RED PILL
TRUMP GAMERGATE, GIRLS, IT ALL MAKES SENSE
ENTER THE FOLLOWING SEARCH TERM AND ENTER OUR WORLD AND ITS BITTER TRUTHS
>Neo Reactionary Movement
>>69175342
That's nice. Sex is easy if you lower your standards.
But you shouldn't be bragging about porking chubbos.
>>69172292
I've always wondered why the normal women in that game are so happy. They're clearly rendered obsolete by catgirl technology.
>>69167010
>Find a girl, MAN UP and...
Huhhhh still stuck on phase one of the plan over here.
>>69175240
The internet has allowed men to share information.
Imagine how lonely it must have been for a man who came home to find out that his wife moved out with all of the furniture and the kids in between the time she kissed you goodbye in the morning and when you got home at night. How soul killing that would have been.
With the internet, men realize that things like that happen to a lot of men.
>>69172292
>Even dating a woman is a huge risk, if you dont prove that you didn't rape her.
Given the fact that pretty much every dude I know has dated multiple women and never been accused of rape, doesn't seem like a "huge risk".
>>69167010
When are women going to WOMEN UP and stop being feminist SJW refugees welcome cucks?
>>69174986
and "alpha:DDD" /pol/acks will say: just man up and make kids with her bro hurr. fuck this, i'd rather have one night stands or pay for prostitutes than cuck myself with an ex-slut who is a proud strong wymin in her own eyes
>>69176020
>>69175869
>>69175869
We aren't all looking for a return of kings (not a roosh pun)
this is an Ethno nationalist board
>>69176089
>than cuck myself with an ex-slut
>ex-slut
Are there such things?
A woman who achieves SLUT status is a slut forever in her mind. Even an old lady who has had a lot of dick in her youth is an OG slut, unable to pairbond with you. Ever.
>>69176286
>not ready
>>69174377
You're in for a brutal divorce. And no one will give a shit when you're living in a cheap apartment and riding the bus because your ex took it all and continues to syphon your paycheck through alimony. Funny how that works.
>>69167010
it has to make sense, thats it
understanding measurement of suffering and that is likely we are born again
with more white people, there is less suffering
the other question is as to how, how to convince someone who has driven himself and driven by society to the spot that they waste none time to make unfunny jokes to make women laugh? someone without mass and sertain personality will not likely succeed, because you are too angry and miserable looking, simply because deep down you are, you dont see reason as to why to be funny, even if you for the slim moment feel like it, but nobody is laughing
so person like that needs muscle mass and mass in general to feel more like himself. you then become someone who doesnt care that much and make dank humor jokes. women find you funny if you are intelligent but make stupidly simple mistakes and at times point them out yourself
information sharing, dont keep none of the points you think that might help the other person, or help you to let you know your information is full of shit
its important to fail and kinda seek only things that you can fail, then you can succeed like a natural. you need to find enjoyment in failing and it simply the fact learning is enjoyable and you learn when you fail. if can feel like shit, but you need to focus your mind each time you feel good or ill like that for the first time. it is fun
>>69173695
I don't play video games. Your argument is invalid.
>>69168725
Here's the better version.
>>69170205
anyone that has partaken in casual sex or porn/masturbation from a young age is DISQUALIFIED from being able to successfully marry for the rest of their life.
you made yourself a eunuch, live with it and become celibate
you're no better than a "reformed slut" woman and it's a shame if you even try to marry
this goes for most people on 4chan period.
Take up the call and find something greater, you've already given up your spiritual right to marry, but you can still redeem yourself in other ways.
>>69174112
Dude just man the fuck up and tell her what to do. Women ONLY respond to two things:
Masculinity, in which they worship the floor you walk on or hate you, to which you can tell her to fuck off.
Weakness, in which they will pretend to love you only to quickly turn abusive as they take your resources, or hate you but you will be too scared and insecure to tell her to fuck off.
>>69176286
>this is an Ethno nationalist board
>>69176543
is 10 too young? :/
>>69167010
>The future of the West depends on it fellas
Meh.
>>69176636
Bretty bad anon
That's more than a decade of erosinf your reward system
>>69167010
It's not really that it's a conscious issue.
It's just a way of, like, getting used to living alone and being a lone wolf.
Also, many benefits.
I have a membership at my local shooting range, which I wouldn't have time for if I'd have a family.
Then there's the thing with money, time and nerves. You don't worry that your wife is going to nag half the month because she can't go on vacation.
You don't have to worry about feeding a kid.
Then there's not worrying about anybody else if a war breaks out or some other disaster happens.
It's just you, and nobody else.
Really, you have to have an upbringing that gets you in the mood of not needing anybody else besides your own self.
For some it's being brought up by a single mother, for others it's being brought up by parents that served in a special ops unit and are traditionalist slavs.
What are the odds?
>>69169768
You can thank feminism for that
And Soros
>>69174332
Yeah, i have. Those aren't women. Most of them are underaged you faggot
>>69176543
Never planned on getting married.
I am a piece of shit and women aren't worth it, would rather take them and leave them as it suits me.
Just stop that russian shitposter already.
>>69168844
of course the gov supports parasites. they need new as many new worker ants they can get
>>69174332
I actually sub PT for my city's public schools, you're not describing average teenagers, you're describing sensational outliers. I'd estimate 1/50 white girls even date black dudes, and maybe 1/100 get knocked up by one. This is far too many already, but acting like its normal is silly.
>>69176330
i guess thats true
Please find me a well adjusted, attractive young white woman (23-30) and I'll gladly marry her and have 2-3 kids.
I have a solid career plan, No debt, stable income/savings, not completely ugly, and no bad history of disease in my family. Strong family values, and I go to church once a week.
It's impossible these days to just meet people at bars. At best you have to go to meetups or meet through work, at worst you go on paid dating sites and don't know if what you're looking at is even real. I honestly haven't met a legit single woman in a year, only girls in relationships or married.
I'm not going to settle for less, since I'm content being alone right now. I want kids more than I want a wife.
>>69176728
That's probably why I am Dubsman tier levels of no fun.
>>69175357
What's funny is how you used to look down on the losers who didn't want a relationship.
>>69177071
and to be fair, the one's we're losing to blacks are ones worth tossing to sharks
>>69175258
>Good luck finding a self-respecting, financially stable man to even look at you, whore.
she already did. You are the one who is single, not her.
The day that article was released her inbox was flooded with mail and shes not single anymore
>>69177127
femanon here, after
>and I go to church once a week
i was laughing too hard to read the rest.
>>69175357
Good on you mate.
>>69177127
>and I go to church once a week.
so you are a beta cuck who gets on his knees for a dead jew.
Yeah no sorry.
>>69177288
>implying a fedora is preferable
Enjoy your being a single mum.
>>69176701
>>69177256
Sure, sure.
>>69174870
Reported
>>69177256
>self-respecting
you missed that part, its easy for every girl who is at least average looking to get beta orbiters to date her
>>69175342
>pussy is a very precious object, you need to 'man up' and work hard for women because they deserve it
t. pussy whipped cuck
Anyone else notice how if you lend money to a woman and she agrees to pay you back, she gets actually offended when you have the audacity to make her pay it back? Women think men owe them money for nothing.
>>69177288
surprising you made it past 'not completely ugly'
but then again if we believe you're girl you must be something.
guys are never single by choice, if a guy is single it's because women think his genetics are subpar.
>>69177480
Even with the world going to hell in a hand-basket, I still want to get married and have a family. In other words, Deus Vult.
>>69177682
pretty much this.
>>69168725
>>69169936
No, the moral of the story is to assert your dominance and when the woman cheats on you, blow her fucking head off with a shotgun and post pictures on the internet.
>>69177682
Can confirm.
Just be gay, OP.
There are plenty of low-key, white, red pilled faggots.
Why won't anyone listen to me.
>>69167010
B-But without MGTOW, I won't be able to get da white womminz for mahself ;_;
>>69178025
Because you're a fag.
>>69176072
The probability of it occurring is low, but the severity of it is extremely high (life basically ruined) so your exposure to the risk is still something that should be concerning.
>>69178093
Oh, you!
:3c
>>69167010
You're not in position to tell us to man up anymore
We don't give a shit anymore. Bring something to the table t change it because that's the only thig that is still doable
>>69167229
first post best post
>>69167986
>>69168725
>>69169706
/thread
>>69169394
Best Tl;Dr
>>69177682
I can relate to that
>>69177288
It is what it is, and I respect your opinion.
>>69177446
I see that this is your first year on 4chan, either that or you are very misinformed. I'd invite you to church to show you that there's more to Christians than evangelicals and what is portrayed by the mainstream media
>>69177672
Admittedly I might have sold myself short in the looks department. I'd say I'm a solid 6/10
>>69177682
I'm too anti-social for relationships but all the females at work hone in on me once they find I've got money to burn
>>69178272
Don't fall for the pussy-jew anon!
>>69178272
This.
I borrowed my grandfather's Mercedes when my Ford Taurus was being worked on, and every girl I met, even ones who had never looked at me before, started salivating over me and approaching me about my "sweet new car."
It was disgusting. At least I got laid, tho.
Marriage is the ultimate cage. The ultimate way to fuck yourself over in the future and remove your independence and add to stress to your life and take years off of it.
>>69177799
How can one consciously bring children into this world when you know what's in store for them?
>>69175773
A newish study has proven women have half as many synapses as a man.
Its an unfortunate side effect of sexual freedom.
There isnt really any feasible way to reverse this without massive revolt or a complete collapse of society.
Civilised means separate from savagery
the current sexual culture is savage
>>69172488
>Men, on average, also have nearly double the amount of sexual partners over the course of their lifetimes than women do.
Literally mathematically impossible.
>>69169394
>Don't let women have jobs
SO true.
All women have a work husband, a man in power over here and whom she sees as unobtainable.
And your wife sees you as something less by comparison.
>>69178572
On average, married people live longer. there are some advantages to getting married, it makes buying a house easier and employers will see it as a sign of maturity. Human resources types prefer to hire married men because they see it as a indicator of many positive personality traits such as being sociable and safe to be around. I'm in my late 20s and I was asked many times if I was married during job interviews, and when I was honest about it the reaction was extremely negative.
I'd like to get married, or at least be in a relationship at least once, unfortunately looks are extremely important for women and if you have some kind of genetic deformity like narrow shoulders or a small jaw it's impossible.
When I was in my teens, I saw the movie Heat and a quote always stuck with me:
"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
>>69179394
It's illegal to ask about your marital status (and a bunch of other things) during an interview here in USA
If I get married, I get divorced and I'm forced to play alimony.
If I play video games, I can do shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6eY73sLV0
Why get married?
