Is punk rock worth saving?
no.
Punk is dead/gay
>>69151090
Whats the point? no other punk band will ever top Greenday anyway.
>>69151090
What is the meaning of this image? 3 of the Ramones are anti-communist and 1 is undecided?
>>69153028
bubble gum punk
>>69151090
Not really. No.
I don't see why four guys playing sloppy bar chords qualifies as a separate genre of rock music. The whole advent of musical genres was invented by musical journalists because they couldn't describe the sounds on paper.
Everything after that... was teens dressing a certain way and acting edgey. Its not even worth anyone's attention.
punk rock has been dead for ages now. If you still like the music just keep listening to the old stuff i guess but no if punk rock was still alive it wouldnt be worth saving.
>>69153205
John was a registered Republican since he became of age.
The others were liberal shitters. I assume that is why Joey's thumb isn't all the way down.
Johnny was red pilled as fuck.
>>69153205
johnny was hardcore conservative
dee dee was a retard
joey was a pinko commie
tommy was the kike mastermind
>>69151090
Also, punk has been mostly liberal since it's inception.
Nothing worth "saving", not at this stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biIq4QuAkDs
>>69155075
>>69155181
Joey was a lefty faggot who literally got cucked by Johnny and was pissed throughout his life, ironically they were the only members of the band who remained from beginning to end
>>69155590
Yep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1OKo1rT84
>>69153028
Greenday is a successful band. Therefor millennials instantly dismiss it. They cry because its to mainstream.
Then defend bands that are far worse sounding simply because they're less successful. (But less successful for a good reason.)
>>69155590
I should add, he was so butthurt he made a song about it, literally using the klan as metaphor for Johnny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1OKo1rT84
>>69155075
Deedee was also a Republican, but was mostly a retard who probably didn't even vote.
>>69151090
no and it's been dead for years
when was the last good punk band anyway? They're all from the late 90s (MAYBE early 00s if you stretch it) which was 20 years ago
>>69151090
I didn't know punk rock was still a thing.
>>69155886
Final War was a good Nazi punk band
>>69151090
no.
>2016
>not listening to pop punk
>>69155882
Dee dee was just pure junkie desu senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAl-xzN8e-M
He was also a male hooker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qcMjKxt-dE
guys like these wouldnt last long in prison
I dont get the apeal
>>69153028
please be kidding
>>69155075
Kennedy looked like had an extra chromosome tho
>>69155075
Dee Dee was also Republican. Joey isn't as liberal as people think and even admitted that Reagan got things right on occasion.
https://youtu.be/FnjQo9hhiOY?t=4m52s
>>69155751
>>69155866
Makes for a cool story for people that like drama but that song was written before Linda left Joey and was about one of Joey's ex-girlfriends. 'The KKK Took My Baby Away' was actually about a black girl Joey was dating who left him because her parents did not approve of her dating outside her race.
>Punk
>As in Greenday
No
>As in dead Kennedy's
Fuck yes
We need more people to fight against everything just for the sake of it, while still not being assholes about how edgy they are
>> Screw all these trashy punk/grindcore/nu-metal bullcrap
Step one: Let me play endless bar chords
Step two: Either yell a lot or sound like the cookie monster
Step three: And have my drummer over use the cymbals to the point where people can't hear the guitars.
Step four: Call it "a new style of rock music." then profit $$$
mix a little ska in
https://youtu.be/WNqqByKiiAA
>>69155832
What the hell are you talking about?
Greenday is like millennial 101
>>69156671
Who is the bigger "sell out"?
Greenday or the band that broke up because everyone except the lead singer wanted to play "holiday in Cambodia" on a stupid Jeans commercial?!?!
>>69156574
>The KKK Took My Baby Away' was actually about a black girl Joey was dating who left him because her parents did not approve of her dating outside her race.
Eh, desu that's another theory among even yet another. It's been a long time since i was really into the Ramones, i remember watching a shit load of documentaries and reading a book or two about them so i'll admit i can't be 100% on it all right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_KKK_Took_My_Baby_Away
>Former Drummer Marky Ramone claimed in an interview for website Loudwire that the song was inspired by Joey's experience at a mental institution. Reportedly, the lead singer befriended an African-American woman who was also in the same institution. A few days later the woman left the institution making Joey depressed. As a result, the lead singer - according to Marky Ramone - wrote the song about this episode.
The crass said it best in 1979
"Punk became a fashion like hippy used to be"
I still like 80s hardcore but most of it is liberal bullshit. NYHC is conservative tho
>>69151090
It's dead. It's pretty much mainstream and completely lib cucked now.
>>69151090
Some punk is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8x5bUZdo5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feH9NVtYtJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyzWf-qIa0
>>69156799
Nobody likes that! People should have been more like bad-brains rather than stupid Bob Marley knock-off garbage.
LMAO
>>69152767
first post best post
>>69155832
You're a fucking pleb.
>>69151090
I used to be pretty into the punk scene when i was younger, I had a mohawk and facial piercings and spikes and leather and shit. I'm in my early 30's now and while I still like the music, the scene is pretty leftist and cucked for the most part. I just don't talk politics with my punk friends.
It's basically like rap for poor white kids, just an outlet for angry disenfranchised youth, but instead of drivebys we'd just get drunk and piss on stuff.
>>69153028
you sure your not aussie
>>69153028
[Fookin' triggered!]
we need more moon man in music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W23x4wemIbY&list=PLh3bIxwhtkJ7z1Mj1kGq6Nxe8mO9jPQFw&index=2
>>69151090
Based Joey Ramone not giving thumbs down
Dead Kennedy's had a gay faggot or two in the band.
>>69153028
wtf bro
>>69155832
This is pretty good bait. On /mu/ it would be too obvious, but here, it's just right.
>>69151090
I'm more of a power pop guy myself, but the alt right needs some dope music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6M5mS1AAu4
>>69157182
I don't really trust Marky's memory on that interview. He also talks about 'I Wanna Be Sedated' in that interview and says it was inspired by Joey getting burnt by a humidifier when everything else I've ever read about that song says it was about their non-stop touring schedule. It seems like Marky was just agreeing and going along with what the interviewer said.
>>69157555
Pretty leftist? It's extreme left filled with white trash. Punks and skinheads alike have shit tier political views and the music is laughable, with few exceptions of course.
>>69157365
https://youtu.be/F39UP1mjAnc
Have Misfits
>>69158027
>>69156799
Nothing ska about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdZGfNMY2Cw
>>69158027
His early years were good.
>>69155832
probably don't even know who butthole surfers are you fucking pleb
>>69158151
THis fucking band and DREAM POLICE.ape
>>69158027
>posting literally the worst human being to ever crawl onto a stage
>>69158151
>the alt right needs some dope music
true, oi is cringy as fuck
>>69151090
Punk is eternal. It has taken many different names and forms through out human history. "Punk" cannot die. It will rise again
>>69158195
I don't know desu. I do remember reading that Joey spent some time in an institution at least for a short period of time. Whether that other tidbit is accurate or what you're saying is true, who really knows desu.
>>69155832
who cares about successful its all about good music and these fucks sold out
green day = nickelback
>>69156799
>>69158516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lX3YG9p-_A
>>69155181
dee dee was actually the musical brain of the group but was high 24/7....he moved to Queens from Berlin when he was 15.
>>69158151
>the alt right needs some dope music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v05OOTGWokk
>>69158547
I listen to his crazy shit because it's hilarious, but when he was with the Jabbers he could actually sing a decent fucking song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECw5MP4r9nc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeJCjifFIuI
>>69151090
>>69153028
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2DcasF2Y4
>>69151090
wasn't one of the ramones really conservative
>>69158924
Keep your thirdwave garbage to yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRm7j2UL3YY
>>69156149
He also wrote the best Ramone's songs though, including their very best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Xae9jsqxU
>>69157861
>based
Joey was worst girl
>>69158972
This.
>>69159017
Amen to that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l53JB19C5oE
It's full of liberals and bernie supporters. Even a lot of metal bands are full cucks. I see show flyers and merchandise showing trump with a hitler stash or shooting himself and whatnot while seeing Bernie's face and name shopped in various band logos. I like the music but damn the scene is horrible.
>>69159040
Why not read thru the thread? Fuckin' Ted.
punk died in the 80s, maybe short lived in the 90s. "punks" these days are basically hipster cucks (AIDS Skrillex)
The mindset of the old punk was 'let's bring down whoever is in charge'. My how things have changed.
An old punk would have wanted the president assassinated no matter who it was.
>>69151090
you want to save degenerancy ? inb4 skinheads, skinheads were niggers.
Punk was always related to anarchism, smoking weed and being degenerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVq9Lo1qlEg&ebc
>>69159555
Not even close. The earliest punk bands were apolitical.
>>69159726
the clash wasn't
>>69159412
Honestly only grindcore is worth listening to today.
>>69159676
>punk was always about smoking weed
Nope. Punks did speed and heroin but most had an aversion to weed because it was seen as a hippie thing there was a pretty big anti-hippie sentiment in the early punk scene.
>>69158151
>power pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT_Ts4BvgLA
>>69159900
The Clash was a fake band....just like the Sex Pistols. Here is a band better than either almost unknown save for the leader singer forming the crap Dexy's Midnight Runners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wVAnTdGff0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3EMkYxjcgA
>>69159900
>the clash were the earliest punk band
The earliest bands of every important punk scene were apolitical. Not too mention, very politically incorrect. The kind of stuff modern 'punks' would be triggered by.
>New York
Ramones
>England
the Damned
>California
Crime
>>69159726
I meant that, basically. More like, they would shit on everyone equally...not that they would actively shit on a politician, but if they were ever forced to take a political position it would be none.
>>69159676
>Punk was always related to anarchism, smoking weed and being degenerate.
You make it sound like a bad thing
>>69151090
I AM A PUNK
Daily reminder that Iggy Pop teamed up with Josh Homme to release an album and it's bretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m8TmlS20ZA
The music may be dead but the spirit still lives on today. A lot of Trump supporters really embody what Punk rock was all about, plus he's the only anti-establishment candidate left. Punk rock was also very anti-PC, one of the big selling points of Trump's campaign.
Honestly, a lot of the Punks of the past would support Donald even though it's under the GOP banner if he makes it to generals.
>>69151090
punk rock is shit beginner-tier "music". hardcore is what a true man listens to and enjoys. and if you don't like it, have fun with your leftist shitty punk rock receding hairline in your 20s vegan vagina music.
>>69160327
Speaking of politically incorrect . . .
>California
FEAR
Anyone else hate this fat fuck
>>69160539
Holiday in Cambodia was literally written about this type of person.
>>69151090
first line of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9wo5uqHAHc
>>69160327
>>69160327
what about MC5
>>69160653
He wears dresses and shit. I'm not down with that. Plus, he tells me what to think. What's up with that?!
>>69159920
grindcore and slam death all day
although I dont listen to much grindcore anymore the vocals are too shit
>>69156799
>ska
end it all right now you degenerate
>>69160723
>muh proto-punk-fuzzface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtzoXoF-SQ
>>69160581
>hardcore isnt leftist shitty punk rock receding hairline in your 20s vegan vagina music
>>69160579
this desu
>>69160581
This.
But a lot of hardcore is just as leftist desu.
http://youtu.be/ldjyBsJdm50
>>69158027
>im gonna post gg allin even though he is despised and his music is utter shit but since it's edgy as fuck people will think im cool
>>69151090
No
>only wiggerslam is worth saving
>>69160663
The DKs suck and Jello is a lisping loser only famous for being a disingenuously outrageous Jew. The only good thing he ever did was sign this band fronted by the heir to the DART container fortune....whose entire family is punk rock against ZOG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UhVUtPQ7CI
I don't even know why punk's dead. It's not like people stopped being angry about stuff... it should still be a way of an expression. Sometimes I think it has to do with the fact its "heroes" sold out
>>69155019
Good punk was topical, politically orientated. Listening to the classics is sometimes weird, eg talking about politicians of the past decades.
>listening to the rhythmic jew
>>69160723
no, anybody can make loud noises with an instrument and scream into a mic
>>69151090
Johnny Ramone was a Republican
>>69161020
fuck GG Allin. was at this show and had to throw my jacket in the trash on the way home because the fucker slung shit at all of us in the audience not even ten minutes into his set.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1991-11-23/news/9111230883_1_gg-allin-wallace-liquor-license
>>69158761
>he doesn't like cock sparrer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4US8e2mxf-U
>>69161248
Whoa now. Some of their music is shit. But id say at least half of their discography was a good 10-15 years ahead of his time.
>>69151090
just like how rap evolved into the auto tuned, swag, utter garbage it is today...
>inb4 implying rap was ever good you nigger
...punk also involved into what it is today. edgy tattooed grown men screaming and growling into a microphone. the theme is overall the same (fuck the government, fuck the mainstream, etc. etc.) but it's been modified a lot since early punk. it's gotten heavier, merged with many other genres, the sound has changed with modern sound technology, etc. Metalcore deathcore whatever its called is the new punk. Trap music is the new rap. All genres have become utter auto tuned garbage. Obviously trends change.
>>69161405
what did you expect?
>>69160540
thanks for the heads up on this, i missed the news. that's awesome.
>>69158550
That's not even an obscure band. Any band that's currently on alt-rock or 90s radio stations isn't obscure. Any band that has a song on f-ing guitar hero... isn't some mysterious rare and obscure f-ing band!
Jesus what a dumb faggot.
>>69160663
that's true.
>>69160630
heh
thank you GTA V for introducing another generation to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swx0dJTzE68
>>69161583
you're allowed to swear on this board you fucking faggot
>>69161583
>That's not even an obscure band
Thats the point retard
TEXAS IS THE REASON
THAT THE PRESIDENT'S TED
YOU GOTTA SUCK SUCK AMANDA SUCK
>>69161020
>his music is utter shit
>not knowing how good power-pop GG was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYxNJbCvCdQ
>>69161103
It's dead in the sense that many of the ideas spewed by a majority of the early day punks are now generally mainstream, especially in regards to politics. You have to remember, a great deal of these punks grew up under Reagan and were against the political landscape of the time. The political landscape, has vastly changed, ergo punk is dead
Everything GG allin did musically except the Jabbers and his last country album was garbage and everyone knows it. People are to "edgy and cool" to admit it though.
>>69161583
Crass
>>69161528
>Metalcore deathcore whatever its called is the new punk.
Fuck you. Punk is still punk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEpBpJ61Ilc
>>69161700
when Moonbeam got elected to be governor FUCKING AGAIN a few years ago I listened to California Über Alles on loop for about an hour
>>69161832
LMAO
>>69161832
>TEXAS IS THE REASON
also a good band desu
>>69161020
More like posting the polar opposite of shitty ass Green Day. Calm down you spaz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82PQyY1djI
The only band that matters.
>>69161903
Sub-humans are better desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4JmGkyaR9c&index=13&list=PL8TIN2gGVOUI2KC1FzY7GxR7jrarz3J9i
>>69161872
http://youtu.be/TaUH-mYyZuE
Hanging out with Jim is a cool song. Otherwise I agree. His country album is one of my favorites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSteMjyrmNU
this is my friends band i used to see them a lot and was at tis show but this stuff is the real "new" punk
not that shit that sounds like lamb of god or chelsea grin or something, real punk is out there but its underground
>>69161839
I like edgy as fuck GG too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw7lUMC-m3Q
>>69162119
my man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UdhEk5kl5Q
this is the best skrewdriver song though
also mud oven is pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSjvTxr9Lo
>>69151090
No. I miss it though
Anything with the word "core" in it is the death of rock music. And your a faggot for listening to it.
>>69162519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r31m5xo8T3o
Blue Eyed Devils my man.
>>69162354
Me too. Bite it You Scum is GOAT, I can't help but get pumped as fuck every time I hear it. I actually have a GG stick n poke tattoo because I respect how he was the superlative edgelord. You have to respect that he really was committed to that lifestyle, and he wasn't a tourist. He was a total piece of shit, but he was a very authentic piece of shit. I think I've seen Hated about 20-25 times.
>>69162803
fuck yes
Wasn't punk music a social experiment conducted by Jewish record producer's?
>>69162821
>mfw I know where he's buried
>mfw I was drunk and pissed all over his grave
He would have enjoyed it
>>69163127
thats what rap is/was
jews got involved in punk once they saw it as profitable
It died in the 80's
>>69163242
I see. Typical Jews always leeching money from everything
>>69162821
i have his live fast die chest tattoo on my foot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBSMPrxTJw
he was not so bad really
>>69151090
American punk rock has turned into a PC/SJW wasteland. Anarchy has turned into obey the system and maybe they will feed us.
>>69163539
Man it'd be cool if there was a modern right-wing music backlash to politics today.
>>69163677
Won't happen. Oi/punk was about being working class. You won't hear any songs saying they would rather work than be on welfare. It's all gone, man.
Rather live on your feet, than to die on your knees. Those punk days are gone.
>>69163677
There is, look up pretty much any Skinhead (Even Anti-Nazi) Band.
For instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4pZlP6YtE
>>69163677
>>69164624
Also https://modernkicksnwi.bandcamp.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAn2PQlgmtg
Big Black is a pretty cool guy
eh pisses off liberals and doesn't afraid of anything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeman
>>69151090
No, its a shit genre
>>69160663
>So you've been to school for a year or two and you know you've seen it all...
there's like two good modern punk bands left, iceage and titus andronicus
it was never that great to begin with, and now it's headed by a bunch of ultra liberal cucks. let it die, any band worth their salt has matured beyond punk
>>69164779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IZpQvda9OA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1nAwJYl_40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKo4FBScYDI
>>69158864
>le too mainstream memeXDDDDD
>>69153028
This is really shit bait
Who cares, kanye,rihanna,taylor swift,minaj and lady gaga are way superior than punk rock
>>69166788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=serIf92zTDc
>>69164779
He fell hook line and sinker for the false memory crazy prosecutor child rape craze.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCs1aKzWiQ
>>69166867
Punk begins and ends with the Ramones. As a music genre though it's nothing but bar chords. That's all it ever was...
>>69167242
Fuck off Jew.
>>69166788
>they have a song called "Uberman"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ioRHimEbB0
Agnostic Front
Carnivore
Fear
Hatebreed
Skrewdriver
Germs
Type O Negative
there's some examples off the top of my head of bands that are some form of punk/hardcore that expressed some pretty extreme right wing views at times. Dunno about bothering to 'save' it but it's definitely a worthwhile culture and has produced good music and a handful of right wing songwriters
![d6f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2xggt0q.jpg "d6f[1].jpg")
>>69167242
But even the Ramones used more than just bar chords.
Punk doesn't exist anymore. You would have to go to run down venues to see any real punk nowadays.
Punk, hardcore--all awesome. I'm sitting here, listening to a Run for Cover Records compilation, and this music is appealing to me.
Bands like Nofx, Anti-Flag, Pennywise, AAA, and others' lyrics made me think twice about all the government and establishment stuff they were teaching me in school. A lot of bad stuff happens here in America relating to politics, and some punk bands exposed that to me.
Punk doesn't need saving, it's alive to you if you like it.
The same people whining about mainstream music...
are the same people who complained about the Sex Pistols' John Lydon branching out and doing Public Image LTD.
>>69167865
Blitzkrieg Bop is literally just three chords being played in repetition. And that's what thousands of these bands base themselves around The entire genre is built around it.
Anything else added in is just a way of avoiding copyright infringement. And people started dressing weird as a desperate ploy to get noticed.
>>69167816
>germs
>skrewdriver
>fear
my negro
Red pilled band on the Gavin show in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewehdywdaA
>>69168157
>Bands like Nofx, Anti-Flag, Pennywise, AAA, and others' lyrics made me think
you should think again
those are all awful except pennywise maybe but damn you are a faggot
>>69170000
Blitzkrieg Bop is a four chord song. You really shouldn't be criticizing someone's musical ability when you're too tone deaf to recognize more than three chords.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DODDYP-b7oY
some punk deserves saving though
>>69167816
No FU's, for shame anon
