It's the best economy in the world right now.
1. >inb4 MUH min. wage jobs
They're not all minimum wage jobs. There's a ton of good payings jobs out there IF you have the skills. Which /pol/tards and Trumpfags do not.
2. Why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement?
3. You're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
4. The ONLY reason why the labor participation rate is down a little bit is because too many Trumptards and /pol/fags are NOT employable and too retarded to join the labor force.
>>69141217
>Canada trying to tell us about the economy
>Canada
>>69141217
You're a socialist country, you don't even have a real economy
>dem policies make Government Sponsored Entities buy subprime loans and dems prevent republicans from reforming this under bush
>as a result, shit starts to hit the fan under bush
>millions of jobs lost
>obama gets near the status quo because the bubble finally burst and it was all uphill from them
>le dems created jobs meme :^)
Also, Canadians lecturing the US on economy state is fucking hilarious
>>69141991
You're a quasi socialist country too.
Socialist Security is by far the most popular government program. Especially with conservatives.
The Pentagon budget is the largest welfare program.
>>69141868
Fpbp
>complain that 95% of the recovery has gone to the top 1%
>Obama has been great for the economy
Why can't leftists just pick one and only one?
>>69141217
>unemployed
I think you meant to post about bernie.
most of the jobs lost were "middle class" income level.
most of the jobs gained were in the "working poor" level.
>>69142059
You're confused. Dems are in favor of government regulation. Republicans and conservatives always preaching deregulation and the magic of the free market.
Are you saying you personally, as a conservative, are in favor of heavy government intervention into the marketplace? I'm surprised to hear you say that.
>>69141217
The leaf is right. All NEET basement supremacists please read this.
>I have a job right now
>I am looking for a new job
>I have almost 10 interviews after 1 week of looking
>Low scale 10 an hour, high scale 15 an hour
these jobs are low paying or part time jobs with fucked up hours. the plight of the modern young adult is finding themselves working multiple low paying job with odd hours to make ends meet. plus if you stop looking for work, the government simply assumes you're employed so the stats are off.
if the economy was good Trump and Bernie wouldnt have so much support.
>>69142187
I take it you're a Bernie supporter.
Trump is cutting taxes massively for the rich and wants to get rid of the estate tax, which only affects the top 0.1%
>publicdebtsinceobamatookoffice.png
America's economy will crash completely within the next 10 years
>>69142447
>these jobs are low paying or part time jobs with fucked up hours
This has been debunked already.
Here's a full time job I found in 2 seconds for retarded Trumpfags.
Why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement?
>>69141217
nobody cares weedman, i'll bet you'll be so tolerant while getting your pencil neck sawed through
>>69141217
>Thinking all Trump supporters are unemployed
>Thinking we are acting entitled instead of willing to work
>Thinking we bitch about the minimum wage
>Thinking we are not employable
Wew lad sounds like you're describing Sanders supporters there.
>>69142519
Obama's reduced the budget deficit by 2/3.
>>69142454
he's also giving no tax at all to people earning under $25k a year and lower taxes to all incomes across the board
>>69141217
It helps when the unemployment statistics are lied about :^)
>>69141217
Hey.. leaf.. please stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Don't be so entitled when everything is handed down to you for free. You don't need to compensate your lack of knowledge on U.S economy to look smart.
Just keep smoking Trudeau's dick and shh.
>>69142615
>2 weeks vacation and 7 personal days
Jesus, you overworked cunts.
>>69142454
How could you possibly come away with the idea that I'm a Bernie supporter from my post?
I need to learn not to respond to stupid fucking Canadians desu.
>>69142160
You must be trolling or a very stupid leaf.
The defense budget isn't a welfare program and the soldiers earn their paycheck.
>>69142744
He's also going to add $24 TRILLION to the national debt. Typical tax cut and spend, deficit loving conservatives.
Trump’s Tax Cuts Would Add $24.5 Trillion to the Debt
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/23/Trump-s-Tax-Cuts-Would-Add-245-Trillion-Debt
>>69141217
You're becoming more socialist and you know you are.
Hilary will turn you into Sweden.
>>69142615
>I found the one half decent call center gig in a pool of parttime and min wage jobs
exceptions are not rules
>>69142615
>telemarketing
Lmao
>>69142331
Dems want welfare for everyone, republicans want fiscally conservative policies.
Dems want government entities - spending taxpayer money - to take on loans that are so risky they wouldn't have undertaken them without mandates to do so. Including pushing this legislation on private enterprise.
Republicans would want banks to loan to people worth the risk and not loan to people that were too risky - especially when a government sponsored entity was taking responsibility for originating the loan.
That's the difference.
Under a true system without government interference, the GSEs (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) wouldn't even exist.
>>69142870
So you're voting against your own self interest. Typical conservative.
>>69142927
I wish we could become as socialist as Norway. Their unemployment rate is 4.5% and they have $1.2 TRILLION in the bank.
>>69141217
pathetic leafposter
>>69142982
See how retarded you are. You're not even qualified for this job because your stupidity.
A customer service representative for Verizon takes inbound calls.
You need to go back and get your high school education.
>>69141217
>>69142983
>republicans want fiscally conservative policies.
Is that why Republican hero and 9/11 America Defender George W. Bush turned a $310 BILLION Clinton budget surplus into a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit.
*DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS CANADIAN FUCKING LEAF SHILL MAKES THE SAME TOPIC EVERY DAY*
*DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS CANADIAN FUCKING LEAF SHILL MAKES THE SAME TOPIC EVERY DAY*
*DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS CANADIAN FUCKING LEAF SHILL MAKES THE SAME TOPIC EVERY DAY*
*DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS CANADIAN FUCKING LEAF SHILL MAKES THE SAME TOPIC EVERY DAY*
A FEW EXAMPLES
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/68136674/ /POL/ BTFO!!! The U4 unemployment rate INCLUDES discouraged workers. It's 5.3%
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/68047974/ Can Trumpfags and /pol/tards stop bringing down the labor participation rate?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/67912584/ /POL/ BTFO. There are a record 5.6 million job openings right now! THANKS OBAMA!
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/67833192/ WHITE MALE unemployment rate is 3.9% THX OBAMA!
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/67830579/ /POL/ BTFO. There are a record 5.6 million job openings right now! THANKS OBAMA!
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/67798815/ /POL BTFO THANKS OBAMA!
PLEASE IGNORE THIS THREAD AND LET IT ARCHIVE
HE WILL CALL YOU A RETARD OR OTHER WORDS TO MAKE YOU RESPOND
HE WILL IGNORE TOPICS SUCH AS DEBT, MONEY PRINTING, AND ANY SENSE OF REAL, MODERN ECONOMICS
HE HAS ADMITTED HE DOES NOT HAVE A JOB
HE ALSO DENIES HAVING MENTAL PROBLEMS
IGNORE THIS THREAD
>>69142976
95% of Obama job creation has been full time.
Why are you so mentally handicapped?
The Spectacular Myth of Obama's Part-Time America—in 5 Graphs
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/the-spectacular-myth-of-obamas-part-time-america-in-5-graphs/283674/
>>69142982
he works at a telemarketing job clearly
kek look at him getting defensive.
Governments make phony statements. For example in sweden in order to counter the unemployment rate they started classifying people who were looking for work as not unemployed and started retiring young people at an early age, for example there are 20 years olds in sweden who are retired. Meaning the unemployment rate went way down.
It's all a bunch of lies. Can only imagine america is doing something similar.
>>69143344
You're using a different proxy I see.
From the threads of mine you posted, it's obvious I post about different topics. Take a look.
1. U4 unemployment rate
2. labor participation rate
3. 5.6 million job openings
4. white male unemployment rate 3.9%
All different topics with different charts.
What are you bitching about?
You don't like facts?
>>69143300
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
>Understanding what happened requires understanding two concepts of what makes up the national debt. The national debt is made up of public debt and intragovernmental holdings. The public debt is debt held by the public, normally including things such as treasury bills, savings bonds, and other instruments the public can purchase from the government. Intragovernmental holdings, on the other hand, is when the government borrows money from itself--mostly borrowing money from social security.
>Notice that while the public debt went down in each of those four years, the intragovernmental holdings went up each year by a far greater amount--and, in turn, the total national debt (which is public debt + intragovernmental holdings) went up. Therein lies the discrepancy.
>When it is claimed that Clinton paid down the national debt, that is patently false--as can be seen, the national debt went up every single year. What Clinton did do was pay down the public debt--notice that the claimed surplus is relatively close to the decrease in the public debt for those years. But he paid down the public debt by borrowing far more money in the form of intragovernmental holdings (mostly Social Security).
Clinton borrowed money for cosmetic accounting. At no point did Clinton take more money in than the government was spending. They just borrowed against social security to make things look better.
Bush's presidency was not much better. 2001 threatened recession, then the housing bubble was allowed to build up until it exploded. Combine that with the two wars and you have a true shitshow.
>>69141217
dont you get it obamas black
>>69141217
>They're not all minimum wage jobs. There's a ton of good payings jobs out there IF you have the skills. Which /pol/tards and Trumpfags do not.
In order to do that yuo need a TON of money to get the skills. First you need to pay the money to get into College/University, and you also need the money to bribe them to let you in. That's illegal and costly.
>Why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement?
That's Barney supporters
>You're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
We aren't.
> The ONLY reason why the labor participation rate is down a little bit is because too many Trumptards and /pol/fags are NOT employable and too retarded to join the labor force.
If uneducated third worlders in China can get jobs then we could do. You're just too stupid to see it
>>69143422
No I'm saying why do retarded Trumpfags who don't even have a high school education, think they deserve better?
American job openings are at record highs.
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
How are you unemployed losers unable to find a job?
>>69142982
>>69143655
This appears to be the real problem that unemployed white nationalist losers have with President Barack Hussein Obama.
I think he's been a wonderful president.
>>69143540
YOU USE THE SAME IMAGES EVERY THREAD
YOU USE THE SAME BULLSHIT ARGUMENTS EVERY THREAD
PLEASE EXPLAIN THE DEBT TO GDP RATIO
PLEASE EXPLAIN THE FED BALANCE SHEET
FUCK OFF YOU SCHIZO FUCK
>>69143671
Actually in no time at all, literally 2 seconds, I can easily find full time, decent paying, entry level jobs in areas with low cost of living, that even unemployed retarded losers like Trumpfags should be able to quailfy for. Here's another. Literally 2 seconds.
http://www.indeed.com/l-Colorado-jobs.html
http://www.indeed.com/l-Nebraska-jobs.html
>>69144067
Open up the threads of mine that you just pasted. They have different charts.
Why are on a Dutch proxy? Usually you have the US flag. What's the matter Trumpfag? You hate America?
>>69143503
>Can only imagine america is doing something similar
Of course. Why would this administration publish statistics that make themselves look bad? It's all fabricated.
>>69144221
pls address this.
>>69143209
>>69144110
Doesn't mean your actually going to get the job. It just means they are offering you an interview.
> I can easily find full time
I could say the same thing in the Great Depression, the problem is finding a job that can pay you enough to feed yourself and your family.
>>69141217
Why are Canadians still allowed to post?
>>69142615
Hey that's the job I was asking about on Saturday. Guess it was not filled after all huh? :/
U6 is the real unemployment.
>>69144330
>I could say the same thing in the Great Depression
No you couldn't. The unemployment rate was 25%. Are you comparing right now to the Great Depression. You truly are mentally handicapped.
Like I already said, job openings are record highs.
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
America's labor market is at the best since 2000.
If you can't find a job in this economy, you will never find a job.
>>69144551
No it isn't. That the underemployment rate. Underemployment does not equal unemployment.
But yes, I agree U6 has plummeted under President Obama. From 17.5% to 9.7% and still falling.
How come U3 has been the REAL official unemployment rate for decades, for every president. But suddenly when a black Democrat is president, U6 is THE REAL unemployment rate? It was never controversial until a black man became president.
erm because rep are in both houses? dumbass leafs
>>69144491
Do you need help finding a job Trumptard? It's not that difficult you know. Do you have any skills whatsoever?
>>69141217
He's more than doubled our national debt in his time in office. He's literally added more debt to us than all previous presidents combined.
Add the fact that interest rates have been kept artificially low, and we're in for a economic shitshow regardless of who we elect next.
Almost all the jobs he's "created" are unsustainable or part-time only.
Thanks Obama.
>>69144430
Cause the truth matters.
>>69142682
He said debt, not deficit.
>>69144858
Shitposter Canuck, pls address my chart.
>>69143209
>>69144321
>>69143300
erm dude thats from regans tax cuts and clinton lowered lending standers for mortgages so get more people in house, created bubble then burst during bsh
>>69144321
Are you asking me why are 10,000 baby boomers retiring everyday and leaving the labor force? Because they're old. You didn't know this?
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/07/24/do-10000-baby-boomers-retire-every-day/
BLS publishes the reasons why people are out of the labor force. It's not a big mystery.
Are you actually so retarded that you thought that 96 million Americans were unemployed?
>>69144766
I got a job thanks. Working at Amazon.
They are always hiring.
It is time
>>69144286
>>69143503
The BLS is a nonpartisan agency that has been publishing labor data since the 1800's.
It was never controversial until a black man became president and right wing retards literally lost their minds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Labor_Statistics
>>69145025
What happens when they replace you with a drone?
It'll be Obama's fault right?
>>69144551
This is because baby boomers are taking part time jobs to double dip after retiring.
Same reason why labor force participation is so low - the biggest portion of the population (boomers) are all retiring
>>69144693
>U3
>people who don't have a job and haven't searched for a job in 12 weeks are no longer unemployed because statistic manipulation
You're a retard.
>>69144989
Wtf are you talking about? Reagan TRIPLED the national debt.
The first thing Clinton did when he came to office was raise taxes on the rich and on corporations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
>>69144221
PLEASE EXPLAIN THE DEBT TO GDP RATIO
PLEASE EXPLAIN THE FED BALANCE SHEET
I'M NOT ON A PROXY FAGGOT ITS CALLED TRAVELING THE WORLD. SOMETHING YOUR UNEMPLOYED LEAF ASS WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE.
KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF
>>69145081
Yeah, and the IRS was nonpartisan under this administration too, right?
Kill yourself, you pathetic leaf.
>>69145166
It will be Clintons fault actually.
>>69144914
If Obama reduced the deficit by 2/3, yet the national debt went up dramatically, it might be the fault of the fiscally conservative Republican who left behind a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit, 2 foreign wars and a tire fire for an economy.
>>69141217
Do you seriously not understand that the nigger took office right after a massive recession. The nigger has nothing to do with the recovery
>>69145434
Learn how to link a webm properly.
>>69144991
>retired workers
>counting towards unemployment
Pick one.
>>69144570
>No you couldn't. The unemployment rate was 25%. Are you comparing right now to the Great Depression. You truly are mentally handicapped.
Because people only took jobs that would let them feed their families. You could always bargain yourself down to getting paid a few pennies an hour because there was no minimum wage. However you couldn't feed your kids.
>If you can't find a job in this economy, you will never find a job.
Not everyone has the connections to get into University. My parents gave offered me up to 70K to go to University but they wouldn't take me. It's almost impossible to get into College/University today.
>>69142615
>$31k
>high paying
Canadians really are third worlders aren't they?
>>69145412
>In January 2014, the FBI told Fox News that its investigation had found no evidence so far warranting the filing of federal criminal charges in connection with the scandal, as it had not found any evidence of "enemy hunting", and that the investigation continued.[11] On October 23, 2015, the Justice Department declared that no criminal charges will be filed.[12][13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy
You're so stupid
Why the fuck should Karl Rove's 501c4 be granted tax-free status? 501c4's according to the 1913 law, are supposed to be social welfare groups. Karl Rove is against social welfare.
Educate yourself retard.
The only reason the Republicans made a big fuss about that is because they want to be able to use dark money from their friends in China and Saudi Arabia to fund their elections and they don't want the IRS investigating rich people who stash their money offshore.
>>69145529
How else am I supposed to link a webm with sound?
Your shitposting really know no bounds you fucking leaf
>>69145540
They count in the civilian labor force participation rate retard. You didn't know that? That's the chart he linked you stupid fuck.
>>69145726
Yes. I have no idea why everyone idolizes Canada. We are a very poor country. The 1% own all the oil and natural resources. We're like Brazil.
>>69141217
>Takes one full time job with benefits
>Turns it into multiple minimum-wage part time jobs with no benefits
Wow, Obama sure fixed the employment problem. Especially when you now get taxed because the asshole caused you to lose your insurance.
If any other man had taken office in 2008, we would have continued to lose 800,000 jobs per month since then. We would have lost a cumulative 76 million jobs to date.
Thank God for Obama saving us.
>>69145726
Why do you think a retarded, unemployed Trumptard loser deserves better coming straight out of your mother's basement?
You losers are the dragging down the civilian labor force participation rate.
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
>>69145860
I'm not opening your gay porn. Sorry.
>>69145790
>and they don't want the IRS investigating rich people who stash their money offshore.
If democrats didn't tax corporations out the ass, maybe they wouldn't hide so much money offshore
>>69146025
I thought that this is what you canadians like.
>>69145891
I don't disagree with this. Harper sold us out big time. Look what the Conservatives did to the Canadian dollar. Pic related.
Thank god for Justin Trudeau. The dollar is up since he came to office.
>>69141217
>destroy the 40 work week
>replace it with low paying part time jobs
Created nothing
>>69145790
>links to wikipedia
>proceeds to blather on about a conspiracy theory
Like I said.
Kill.
Your.
Self.
>>69145967
Couldn't agree more. You should elect Republicans so they crash the economy again. Like they always do.
>>69146030
>MUH CORPORATIONS
Multi-billion dollar profits paying peanuts in taxes.
You Trumptards are always fighting for the lil guy eh.
>>69146168
I agree Conservatives destroyed the dollar. But how is Trudeau helping that?
>>69145081
Which is why on the bls table about male and female income for different jobs, it lists females as paid less than male engineers, but the only data in that category is drafters, no data on engineers
>>69146156
No I like women with big tits.
But hey if you Trumpfag losers are homosexuals and love cock, good for you, I'm all for gay marriage. I just want you faggots to be happy.
>>69145877
I didn't say a single thing about participation rate.
You still haven't explained why the unemployment rate isn't actually lower.
quick guys, tell him to go back to lereddit! Make Trump proud!
>>69144856
>Add the fact that interest rates have been kept artificially low
Really this. Only reason the US economy looks good is because everyone is borrowing absence amounts of money at low cost. OP is a proxy shill with poor understanding of macroeconomics.
>>69146337
>Entities that exist to make money want to keep as much of the money they make as possible
Gee, what a fucking shocker.
The rich already account for 80% of the US income tax revenue anyway, so it's fair to say that they're already paying more than their fair share.
>>69146538
The unemployment rate has plummeted under President Obama.
What are you talking about?
>>69146690
Absolutely. Why should the rich pay any tax at all? It's an unfair burden on them.
>>69146209
So I should be able to create my own 501c4 group and the IRS should just give me tax free status without asking any questions?
>>69146776
Why should they pay a higher proportion of their earnings than anyone else?
>>69146168
>Look what the Conservatives did to the Canadian dollar.
The dollar was in the low 60s when the Chretien liberals was in power you stupid fucking millennials you have no idea what you are talking about
HE HAS 40 POSTS OUT OF 100 IN THIS THREAD
HE STILL CANNOT FATHOM MACRO ECONOMICS
HE STILL CANNOT EXPLAIN THE DEBT TO GDP RATIO
HE STILL DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE FED RESERVE WORKS
HE STILL IGNORES ANYONE WHO POINTS OUT FLAWS IN HIS RETARDED LEAF LOGIC
>>69144430
Good question.
>>69146698
>The unemployment rate has plummeted under President Obama.
People have stopped looking for work. You don't even know how unemployment is counted that's how stupid you are
>>69146967
Because America has had progressive taxation since 1913.
>inb4 MUH federal reserve
In fact, in the golden age of the American middle class, the 1960s, the top marginal tax rate was much higher than it is today. First at 90% then at 70% starting in 1965.
Why do you glorify and worship assholes like Mitt Romney who pay a 13% rate on $40 million but a poor middle class guy busting his ass in factory will pay a much higher rate on his $60,000 salary.
Bill Gates: High taxes and high growth can co-exist
The "highest economic growth decade was the 1960s. Income tax rates were 90 percent."
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/may/17/bill-gates/bill-gates-high-taxes-and-high-growth-can-co-exist/
>>69147013
When the Liberals left office to that shithead Harper, the dollar was at 87 cents. When Harper left office it was 75 cents.
Why are you such a fucking moron?
>>69147177
I was responding to someone who asked about the unemployment rate.
So you're claiming that if discouraged workers were included in the unemployment rate, it would be much higher?
>>69147223
The 1950s is the golden age actually. And the reason the economy of 1950 was better than the 1980s when we had the gold standard is because of one reason, technology.
>>69145474
>Obama reduced the deficit
We are talking about public debt you dumbshit, deficit is totally different, you dont know shit about economics
>>69146698
>a gorillion baby boomers retire every day and leave job openings to millenials
>there isn't a proportional increase in the number of hired workers to fill the openings
>unemployment doesn't proportionally drop in proportion to the fantastic increase of jobs created by President Barrack Hussein Obama
inb4 "we don't have the population for it!"
>>69147392
>The 1950s is the golden age actually.
Literally 3 recessions under Eisenhower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1958
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1960%E2%80%9361
The 1960s were the highest growth decade in American history.
Take it up with Bill Gates. He might know something about capitalism.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/may/17/bill-gates/bill-gates-high-taxes-and-high-growth-can-co-exist/
>>69146239
Ahahahahahahahahahahahh. typical leaf. When did Trump supporters say they deserve better jobs? I'll let you in on something that you'll find out soon, Weedman and Za.ra Tind.all are currently trying to give the UK complete control over Canada after the gold liquidation.
Have fun :)
>implying the President has as much of an impact as Congress
At what point in this chart did the Republicans take control of congress?
Spoiler: Right where things start going positive again.
>>69147526
Unemployment has been cut in half. The Obama economy has created over 14 million private sector jobs. What the fuck are you bitching about?
The US is currently on the longest job creation streak in American history. It's creating over 200,000 jobs a month.
Job openings are at record highs.
The only people unable to find a job are unemployed Trumpfags because they are retarded losers.
>>69147301
>When the Liberals left office t
Liberals were the ones you pegged the dollar to oil you fucking idiot and the dollar was fucking awful the entire 90s under shitty liberal mismangement
>>69147564
That's because of Nixons economic policies which were great. But the real golden age of the economy was 1840 to 1890. The only reason their quality of life was lower was due to lack of productive technology.
>>69147223
>In fact, in the golden age of the American middle class, the 1960s, the top marginal tax rate was much higher than it is today. First at 90% then at 70% starting in 1965.
It was also way fucking easier to avoid paying taxes back then. The rich didn't even need to bother shifting their money offshore to avoid paying tax.
>Why do you glorify and worship assholes like Mitt Romney
Pretty sure you're the first person in this thread to mention Mitt Romney.
>>69147633
You mean the do nothing Congress that tried to crash the US economy (AGAIN) by defaulting on the US dollar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_debt-ceiling_crisis_of_2011
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_debt-ceiling_crisis_of_2013
The Republicans who promised me Obamacare was a job killer yet we've had 72 straight months of job creation since it passed.
>>69147762
Yeah but Obama also added a ton of debt!
>>69147780
>Liberals were the ones you pegged the dollar to oil
Source?
>under shitty liberal mismangement
Are you talking about when they racked up 10 straight budget surpluses and left Harper a $16 BILLION budget surplus which he squandered?
>>69147831
>That's because of Nixons economic policies which were great.
Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron. Nixon wasn't President until 1969.
>But the real golden age of the economy was 1840 to 1890.
Yeah okay. 1840 to 1890. Yeah those are the economic times I'd want to be living in. Fucking retards.
Why not the 1750s to 1770s? The Continental economy.
Fucking nimrods.
The "highest economic growth decade was the 1960s. Income tax rates were 90 percent."
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/may/17/bill-gates/bill-gates-high-taxes-and-high-growth-can-co-exist/
>>69147929
>You mean the do nothing Congress
Yes, precisely
>tried to crash the US economy (AGAIN) by defaulting on the US dollar?
He thinks refusing to raise the debt ceiling automatically means missing debt payments (let alone defaulting)... look at him everyone. Look at him and laugh.
>>69148250
>Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron. Nixon wasn't President until 1969.
Then why in the minions movie when they go to 1965 does a billboard say "Nixon, a voice you can trust!". Idiot
>Yeah okay. 1840 to 1890. Yeah those are the economic times I'd want to be living in. Fucking retards.
Sure, you totally don't sure whatever.
>Why not the 1750s to 1770s? The Continental economy.
Oh my god your fucking stupid.
>highest economic growth decade was the 1960s. Income tax rates were 90 percent
Only for the rich you imbecile!
>>69148030
>10 straight budget surpluses
You don't even know how budget surpluses work this is how fucking stupid you are. Budget surplus is a nice way of saying over taxation. I can create $1 Trillion budget surplus if I rised taxes high enough you dumbshit. You stupid high schooler stop making these threads you have no idea how economics work.
>>69141217
I love your way of debating. Set your own viewpoint, then say anyone who does not agree have this viewpoint.
Here, I'll spite you:
>minimum wage
Jobs in cities do not count because they aren't "minimum wage." The work they do is such unskilled labor that elsewhere they'd be considered minimum wage as well.
>entitlement
That's a broad assertion that is not provable.
>no. 3
wut
>no. 4
That's a broad assertion that is not provable
I'm not sure why you are so retarded (provable), but it's insane.
>>69142454
>Trump is cutting taxes
hahaha! Thanks for the laugh. You do know he hasn't been elected, right?
>>69143025
>voting for codependence is voting for my self interests
>>69147762
>unemployment has been cut in half
Yes, it has. You still have not answered why we're only 5% better off than during the recession.
>President Obama is creating 200,000 jobs a month with his own bare hands!
>Record highs!
>A gazillion new jobs total!
You keep repeating this shit but you still haven't explained why the 14 million increase in the number of "new jobs" combined with the 100,000/month retirements of boomers only add up to the shocking improvement 5%
I don't see how that is, unless these fancy new jobs are being filled by ghosts.
I haven't been very coherent with this question, but it should have been clear I wasn't asking you to read charts out loud.
>>69143300
The surplus was from a REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS LED BY NEWT GINGRICH
>>69141217
Funny how that reversal coincides almost perfectly with the US shale gas boom.
Cruz admitting his love for Lollipop??? Watch short clip right here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pOED4M-WEM
>>69148861
You still haven't debunked that the economy is way better on the gold standard.
>>69148872
oh wait make that 300,000/month retirements of baby boomers lel
>>69149238
S A G G Y
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Bait thread, this ass has been posting his debunked crap for a week now and you can see it on the archives.
>>69149238
Please keep this a Jew free zone.
Thank you.
>>69150348
Economy was better with gold standard! Debunk that! Also the FED literally caused the Depression Bernanke admitted it!
>>69143503
Sweden doesn't allow entire swaths of their own citizenry just to do like the US has done. cuntservatives convinced several generations of Americans that the Universe would make sense and their dreams would fulfill if only rich people could have more tax cuts.
You are a lying cunt angry at the happiness of others.
>>69150466
>Economy was better with gold standard!
THANKS REPUBLICAN NIXON!
> Also the FED literally caused the Depression Bernanke admitted it!
THANKS REPUBLICAN COOLIDGE AND HOOVER!
>>69150466
>the amount of gold in the world could only back a small fraction of the currency in existence
>a contraction of the monetary supply on such a large scale, larger than the great depression, which encountered a 33% currency contraction, is good for the economy
>
>>>
>>69150348
Vanilla Shekel!
MC Yamukla!
Phosphorette!
6,000,000 cc (only the oldfags will get this)
>>69150858
>THANKS REPUBLICAN COOLIDGE AND HOOVER!
Coolridge had no idea what was going on and Hoover was a neo-con socialist who pretended to be conservative.
>THANKS REPUBLICAN NIXON!
What did Nixon have to do with the creation of the FED and ending of gold standard. It happened in 1913.
>>69151046
Well tell me, what is the currency based on then? HUH?
>>69141217
>canadian economists
>>69152688
Thanks Conservatives!
>>69146168
>>69152688
>the value of the dollar depends on how many economists your country has
>being this retarded.
>>69145357
>he doesn't understand compound interest
189% of what? the debt before he was in office? Does it account for all the bullshit Carter did that would have landed in Reagan's lap to deal with?
>>69152531
fiat currency, petrodollar
The currency is established as a medium of exchange whose value is derived from the demand for it, namely because of the OPEC agreement where nations must purchase oil and other forms of energy solely in dollars, creating massive international demand for dollars as nations must stockpile dollars in order to purchase oil.
>>69141217
All added jobs are part time. If someone works two or more jobs that total more than 35 hours a week its counted as two or more full-time jobs.
The numbers are all bullshit you stupid maple nigger.
>be from cali
>$15 minimum wage passes
>my face in 5 years when every small business and probably even some larger ones fuck off completely
>>69154250
>5 years
try 2 years, and since they are moving anyway might as well move out of the US completely and anyone who can't move out of the country will just close.
>>69141217
bubble nigga
>>69142615
10$/hr job
>>69154250
Then why aren't countries that have minimum wage that high or forced collective bargaining that high completely out of jobs.
Why are more McDonalds being opened in the Nordic countries that in america (Where they are closing stores)
>3 part time jobs at minwage with no benefits are better than the full time jobs people used to have
k
There is no such goddamn thing as a "free market"
Conservative policies are designed to enrich the already rich and turn everyone else into poor slaves
>>69154250
We will rebuild
>>69157025
Fucking libertarians... You do realize you are just being used to get rich people richer.
If you want freedom just go full Ancap.
>>69156345
yeah you also have to work like 60 hour weeks with no overtime pay
>>69156991
Yes, there is such thing as a free market economy. It may not be perfect but it's a hell of a lot better at stimulating growth than a state run economy.
> it's an autistic Canadian that talks about his grandmother whenever economics statistics are discussed episode
>>69141217
ahem
One Third Of Q1 Economic Growth Was Just "Revised" Away
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-28/feds-next-headache-one-third-q1-gdp-growth-was-just-revised-away
don't lose your time, we all know official numbers are complete fraud
>>69144430
>Threatening my echo chamber
>WWWWaAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
That is why no one takes you guys seriously
>>69141217
>It's the best economy in the world right now.
sure thing, weedgoy
>>69157627
>it's a hell of a lot better at stimulating growth than a state run economy.
source?
>>69141217
My state is #6 for labor participation, and it's only a bit under 69%, so you can keep clinging to your false stats, I'll go with the ones that are accurate and don't feed me bullshit.
Fucking Canadians....
>>69158677
Nice to know Reagan really did fuck us over.
