Is Algebra an unecessary stumbling block to US schools?
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f7b0c544f83743509960e1a665000751/algebra-unnecessary-stumbling-block-us-schools
Explain yourselves, Americans.
>>69074302
Common Core a shit
Rei > Asuka
>>69074580
Oh my god. I hope this is a joke. Please no.
>>69074580
You'd think they'd give the kid credit cause it's a pretty smart answer. All of these piss me off.
>>69074302
common core is a globalist plot to dumb down the people
I'm terribly embarrassed of this, but I took me far to long to realize that PEMDAS was sort of a bullshit "trick"
I would constantly fuck up equations thinking Addition MUST be done before subtraction in an equation,(despite what came first from right to left) otherwise the answer would be incorrect.
I had to pass algebra 3 times. It should be mandatory on most people.
Its a decent approach however what about the retards who cant write a 5 page assignment or run a mile? What about an imbecile who cant do all 3? Should there be schooling for people destined to work at the box factory?
This is what Yuri said. Teach them something useless instead of something pragmatic like mathematics or chemistry.
>>69074580
The kid's answer sounds fairly reasonable.
>>69074302
it is if you want the masses as dumb as possible. keep them easy to manipulate and shiiieeeet.
>>69074302
Black kids ruin our test scores. Normal, non-rascist people look at this and think that there is a education problem because they can't see the truth.
This will eventually lead to a lowering of educational standards.
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>>69074984
That answer is pretty sound if you consider the question seems more like a riddle than a math question.
they want to keep dumbing down the curriculum to appease the niggers and spics. this will only lead to the complete abolition of school itself because minorities never improve
>>69074847
Multiplication and Division have the same priority as does addition and subtraction.
I don't know of any teachers teaching it wrong, so you're probably just a retard who remembered it wrong.
What pisses me off is there are tons of resources in this day and age to explain this
>wikipedia
>wolfram
>scientific calculators both real and apps
and there are morons that don't fucking get it.
How is this even possible?
>>69074580
>teachers
And to think it actually used to be a respectable position.
I use algebra to figure out most problems in my life. It's use as a problem solving and critical thinking tool is not in any way limited to math and if you have a hard time with it you should be shot.
>>69074865
I think there are special classes for kids with mental disabilities, at least there was at my school.
>>69074395
>not having Kaworu as your husbando
Faggot
>>69074847
Even if you do it that way it still doesn't matter you fucking retard.
>>69075081
Realizing that our "plummeting test scores" correlated directly with the de-whitization of the USA was an eye opening moment for me.
I actually always found algebra to be kind of fun once I got the hang of it.
It helps a bit when learning accounting.
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>>69074847
(4+5-3-4+5-3+6-4)
Go ahead and start in the middle. Do it in any order you like, you'll get the same answer.
>>69075081
yes because who wants to learn about cells n shit
>>69074740
>>69075130
>>69074984
It was supposed to be like that so the kid would critical thinking skills instead of being a fucking retard
>>69074302
The vast majority of the US education system is unnecessary and a waste of time.
>>69074302
>Is Algebra an unnecessary stumbling block to US schools?
Math is great, but not for everyone. I excelled in math and am old enough to have taken actual classes called algebra and calculus in high school. Today, here anyways, it is math a, math b and math c. The shit i did in grade 11 and 12 is now university credit shit.
I felt it was unfair though at the time to have remedial math. It stuck on people hard. It should have been basic math that can be used on a day to day basis up to grade 10, and any more advanced math should have been an elective.
I think we missed out on some great poets and novelists because of our standard of mathematical understanding in higher education.
>>69075638
more like sickle cells mah nigga ;)
>>69074302
gonna need some sauce on this semen demon
>>69075130
Haha classic overthinking
You should be able to solve this.
>>69074302
>algebra and other advanced math courses
Jesus fuck. That guy needs to be shot.
>>69075174
A lot of them have zero math skills. We have a culture of math illiteracy that parents and teachers are passing down to their kids with this kind of crap.
>>69075703
Not true, kids need to learn to sit for long periods of time, do paperwork, follow instructions, and leave dangerous situations in an orderly fashion.
These are the crucial life skills they can't pick up anywhere else.
History teacher here, the objective answer and my subjective answer is yes.
Does that have a penis
>>69075602
Yes, but if he was doing the same mistake with multiplication and division, then it would be giving him the wrong answer.
I'm inferring he was, but I don't know.
>>69076139
I mean no. Oops. Meant no.
>>69074865
I have a bachelor's degree and basically only ever use basic math, algebra concepts, and stats. I consider my high school alg 2, 3, and calc to have been massive wastes of time and energy. If anything I think reading/writing and social science curriculum should be expanded since it's fundamental to being a good, functional, citizen. Above algebra 1(which could really be more of a symbolic logic class with geometry and alg concepts) math is really only useful to very specific studenta
>>69074580
How come those teachers don't get slapped by parents on a daily basis?
>>69074395
Objectively wrong, you faget
>>69074302
We've got this obsession with making sure that all children are succeeding, yet we have all these retards and niggers who don't care and don't pay attention.
Thus, the only way to make sure that all children are succeeding is to lower standards.
>>69074302
What the fuck America, it isn't even hard, it's all practice, it makes you think and filter idiots.
Let's continue
>>69076156
Not sure but I think the car should probably just brake instead of crashing into a wall. Just my idea, might be crazy tho.
>>69076170
actually he would still get the right answer if he was multiplying and diving in order as well.
(2*3*4/4*2/5)
Do it in any order.
For some reason liberals are only ever able to look at symptoms instead of the true problem. Black kids not passing high school = standards should be lowered. Nevermind that it defeats the purpose of school in the first place if you lower the standards. Same with economics. They see high prices and they think the solution is to arbitrarily lower the prices. Leftists are completely unable to comprehend that the high prices are a symptom of low supply.
>>69076301
To be fair, it's nkt hard to become a teacher here. Hence there are a lot of shitty teachers in the US.
>>69076354
Just partial derivatives, nothing too crazy there.
If you have trouble with Algebra you're a retard; it's just doing math backwards to find the missing variable.
>>69076064
The appropriate answer is to walk away in order to avoid legal responsibility.
>>69074580
>A = rθ
>>69076200
t. (you) in 23 years
>>69074302
Theoreticals are unnecessary stumbling blocks in pre-college education in general.
Regardless, the teaching methods are the problem.
In the US, even the education system is treated like a capitalist venture.
>The way you learned algebra is wrong! Here's the right way!
>Sorry, we don't value your degree because it's not Harvard. We don't care if you learned algebra the same way they did.
Fuck calculus in general.
>>69074302
algebra ain't that hard, its mostly just logical thinking
now science past general stuff ain't that necessary
>>69074302
No, but trigonometry and geometry are for normal users
>>69075802
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Prepare to be disappointed, anon.
>>69074395
Misato>everyone else
>>69076200
my math analysis / calculus introduction class during senior year of high school was taught by and female indian student teacher who was extremely difficult to understand. i ended up dropping the class and felt short-changed, even back then.
>>69074580
>question titled "Reasonableness"
>asked to prove an statement, given an assertion.
>"correct" answer is to reject the assertion in the question.
literally. fucking. what.
>>69076404
thats not right. (2*3*4)/(4*2)/5 =/= 2*3*4/4*2/5
>>69076566
If you are dependant on a teacher to tell you shit you are fucking useless anyway. You have books for a reason.
>>69076139
Training to either go to Law School or be a History teacher here. What are the good perks to being a teacher? Do you get hit on by qts?
>hurr when do we have to know what x or y is irl
The fact that these people don't understand that x or y is a general representation of something that can vary is the actual failing here. How can an 18 year old who has failed intro algebra twice still not know that?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
American education lowering standards so niggers can pass. In 40 years employed STEM major graduates who grew up in US will be a small minority.
>>69074343
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>>69075054
>>69075081
>>69075703
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>>69075802
>>69076068
>>69076268
>>69076301
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>>69076531
Just to let you know, we also have a presidential candidate who wants to remove these maths from schools... guess what other agendas he supports?
Gay marriage.
>>69076662
>Female teachers
>>69074580
The question is poorly worded. Should be *is* this possible, not *how* is this possible. Kid actually gave a pretty solid answer considering the question is implying that Marty did in fact eat more pizza despite eating a smaller proportion of his whole than Luis.
>>69076064
this
>darkies can't into math
>stop teaching math so their feeling don't get hurt
>>69076710
The higher up you go, the less true that becomes. Jackson's EM is not something you can do without a teacher.
>>69076752
>law school
Spend all day working for a shit job to get lots of money you will never spend/ never use the shit you spend it on
>Teacher
1/4 of the year off, shit on kids cause you dont need to do real work, Pension, stop working early because you work for the government
>>69074580
The kid's answer is correct but he could improve it by saying how much large the pizza has to be than the other
Yuri Bezmenov talked about this as a subversive method to ruin society
>>69076710
i can self-teach for many things but was never good at math. i had a tutor who i liked and always learned a lot from, but was always a few days behind.
now in my job i only use value calculations, PV, FV, compounding interest, percentages. I would like to learn some other math though because I always thought it was interesting.
I use algebra every day at work in database coding. But even if I didn't, it is an incredibly useful tool in problem solving. Fuck these excuse makers.
>>69074580
the kid's right. If you let marty's pizza be x and Luis's y. For Marty to eat more pizza its just x>6/5y
>>69074580
This is fake.
>>69076939
Australians everyone.
>>69076752
No. Go to fucking Law School. I'm only here so I can make enough to get my doctorate and move up to teaching at community college. My goal is one day teaching at a state university. It's a living hell right now. America is fucked if these kids are our future. For the love of god, DO NOT BECOME A TEACHER.
>>69076861
But a teacher makes no money senpai
>>69076200
You may not use the literal math but you use the logic behind it
People don't give math the credit it deserves
You think about shit in a different way after taking a math class
If you've taken a basic philosophy course and learned basic logic you'll relate what I'm trying to say
You may not use any of those arguments or anything those philosophers said but you'll think a different way and have an easier time solving problems
Same shit happens with math
This is coming from a biochemistry students that hates math and can't wait to be done with it because I know for a fact I won't ever use it again unless the lab I end up working in uses stone age tech
>>69076550
good taste m8
>>69076016
It isn't. Nowhere in the original problem it is stated that both persons eat pizzas that were of the same size. The way the question is asked also is retarded because added to the fact that you are lacking data you have two possible answers, that the statement is true and then the pizzas were obviously not of the same size or that the statement is correct and the pizzas were the same size.
The teacher should have realized his/her mistake and give the kid/girl a cookie.
>>69076970
3/16
>>69074302
>Explain yourselves, Americans.
This country is an Orwellian Nightmare.
Is that good enough of an explanation for you?
>>69076674
> (2*3*4)/(4*2)/5 =/= 2*3*4/4*2/5
That's true but you changed the expression. If you are going to add parentheses they have to contain only one operation or you are changing the original expression illegally.
>>69076156
The car should be travelling at a speed such that if an obstacle comes into its path, it can detect it and slow to halt in a reasonable time
>>69076988
Americans Everyone
>>69074302
White people have no trouble with algebra
I kinda stopped givving a shit about maths when I was told about i^2 = -1. After all those years being taught that a square is can never ever be negative.
I felt lied to. I felt betrayed.
>>69076503
Aren't you liable under some form of tort law or another
>>69074343
Clearly it didn't teach you much ;>_>
>>69076378
Fucking Kek!
>>69076990
I need some specific stories anon
More like 90% of math teachers are fucking awful.
I was horrible at math in middle school through high school and I eventually majored in Statistics. It's all because the teachers were fucking atrocious. Math is hard, abstruse and boring. You can't just write problems on a whiteboard and expect kids to latch on.
>>69076410
Awhile back, the Russian government decided that they needed to curb the problem of too many citizens getting drunk.
Their solution? Double the price of vodka.
The result? An unsurprising upswing in black market alcohol and deaths from homemade bathtub booze.
>>69076988
Is it a problem being able to do basic maths?
>>69074302
>Is Algebra an unecessary stumbling block to US schools?
>>69077000
Teachers make decent money but are basically stuck with no slight hope of getting rich or going to any upper management stuff
What teachers can hope for is tenure, but basically its a dead end job
>>69077071
Yes, that's ok... it's odd though that you as a country have such high praise for Animal Farm and 1984...
>>69077000
>40k start
>for 180 days of work
>no money
Do clubs/detention/ summer school to boost it too. Or be a college teacher and get tenure in Mathematics or engineering or some shit.
>>69077216
burgers BTFO
>>69076156
Looks like a BLM protest. The car should run them over.
>>69077073
>>69076674
It's only legal like this.
(2*3)*(4/4)*(2/5) = 2*(3*4)/4*(2/5) = 2*3*(4/4)*2/5 = 2*3*4/4*2/5
>>69074302
America is a nigger country, essentially.
>>69077104
As a huge fan of math, I will even admit that being taught imaginary numbers is not that important. Really doesn't need to be dealt with until after two semesters of calculus. Lots of math and statistics that are more useful.
By the way, imaginary numbers are extremely useful to describe waves. Basically, you can use them to replace sin/cos functions. They allow for easier manipulations.
>>69076970
6/2^6
>>69076925
That is just filling in formulas
Algebra:
Apply these rules: 1 * n = n; n/n = 1; n/1 = n
Done
>>69077009
That's what I mean by replacing the 3-4 years of mandatory math with 1-2 of a combined more concept based symbolic logic, algebra concepts, geometry class. What u think?
>>69074302
Yes Algebra is a middle eastern invention designed to create a high rate of failure in western schools and kick the white man down a notch.
Even look at the word 'Algebra', it translates roughly to mean 'to knock down the white man' in Islamic.
I'm glad it's finally being removed so we can rid ourselves of this evil and go to mars and live happily.
>>69074580
I had a Astro prof do this shit on a test, but then again it was multiple choice
I still hold fast to "the answer to a question should not be that the question is wrong", at least on tests
>>69076064
kek
>>69077373
>Even look at the word 'Algebra', it translates roughly to mean 'to knock down the white man' in Islamic.
It sounds strangely like Algeria.
>>69076246
They do. But then they come to the conclusion that the parents are the problem.
>>69076522
>accepting to loan terms where you are paying the principal three times over
holy shit she deserved it.
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>>69076674
Why don't you BEDMAS/PEDMAS people rewrite it out properly with a single operation? Division and multiplication don't actually have a "priority" because they're the same operation. Division is multiplication by an inverse, subtraction is a addition by a negative. I think that's what confuses the most people with the order of operations.
>>69077373
Pic related, it is the inventor of algebra. Do you really want this man in charge of your young white innocent kids futures?
Make the right choice /pol/. Vote trump.
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>>69076861
Goddammit you guys, I'm horrible at making decisions, and I'm running out of time to decide this.
>>69074302
niggers can't compete with whites
common core introduced to fight white privilege by dragging the smartest kids down to the level of the dumbest
common core isn't working, time to just eliminate academics
>>69077179
I don't really have any. It's never an event that kills you as a teacher, it's giving out a test on WW1 and having a class average of 73% that does it. These kids are the densest fuckers I've ever met. No matter how long I teach, no matter how simplisitic I get, no matter how easy I make the test, they ALWAYS find a way to fuck it up. Then I'M the one who gets shit for it from both angry parents and the department head who is angry at ME for my kids failures.
>>69074302
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>>69077516
>we wuz mathematicians n sheet
Meanwhile Newton, Leibniz, Gauss, were all white
>>69077185
Same thing with Chemistry desu. Inept teachers conduct their lessons in a way where kids find themselves completely confused at relatively simple concepts.
>>69077501
Pretty sure I'm right desu, but feel free to educate me. My stats are kind of rusty.
>>69077368
I don't know man what I think is irrelevant
We have a system that has worked in the past now we want to change it because some can't hack it?
Fuck that!
And I'm a fucking spic too! Don't lower the national standards because some "minorities" aren't able to jump over that curve. We're only fucking ourselves and the future workers of this country by doing so.
>>69077071
>mfw there was a bill just introduced to keep track of of all cellphone sales and ownership after Brussels in order to end burner phones
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
>>69076768
you're a fucking idiot if you think shit like algebra or calculus should be mandatory.
Schools in Japan should be schools everywhere.
You go to school to learn how to be a citizen and the fundamentals to get a job.
You go to college if you want to specialize your education.
US education is nothing but a fucking prep course for college.
But guess what, all that work, including college credit courses, were a waste of time because the college you want to get into doesn't value them.
Jews are so deep into the education system they don't even teach important shit like civics or how to manage money.
Why do US schools even exists? Wikipedia is far more valuable than anything dated textbooks have to say.
And don't get me started on the college textbook scam.
>>69076851
that's a big part of it, but it's more complicated than that
all advanced bureaucracies use statistics to measure performance. 2k years ago in ancient china, they realized that the person who controls the metrics controls, essentially, the type of policy that is enacted.
if your enemy is the emperor, and the emperor wants better military, and you want to fuck with him, you don't try to directly make the military worse. instead, you destroy his ability to measure troops, supplies, etc.
this is something the romans knew, but the enlightenment destroyed our understanding of actual history.
the democrats are trying to destroy republicans. instead of directly destroying education, they START by destroying the ability of republicans to do good things.
if you divide performance into IQ, you have COMPLETE vision of performance across all races. OUTLAWED. then, you break it down into SAT scores, which divide into percentiles, so instead of complete vision, you have it divided into 100 parts. it's broken down, the ceiling is lowered by ten percentiles, meaning via reform, the most difficult 10% of questions are phased out, meaning someone at the top 10% is indistinguishable from the top 1%. THEN they discard the SAT and use grades, which is a quintile system, a, b, c, d, f. you can only distinguish every 20% group. THEN, everyone just gets a's. the information apparatus is destroyed. Now, even someone who WANTS to promote good education finds it impossible to do so.
do you see? it's less about protecting nigger feelings, and more about destroying the institutions which the republicans can control.
>>69077343
>imaginary numbers are extremely useful to describe waves
Literally whatever.
Not one teacher ever said "Yes, a squared number is always positive, except in that one specific case where it's not. But you'll see that in a few years."
That's bullshit.
>>69077343
>By the way, imaginary numbers are extremely useful to describe waves. Basically, you can use them to replace sin/cos functions. They allow for easier manipulations.
This is something that early maths teaching usually fails at: getting students to realize what the math that's being taught is useful for. I can't tell you how many times we'd ask our teacher what we were being taught at the time was good for, and they rarely had an answer. That's a little demoralizing, or at least doesn't give a student a good drive.
If you told a student that learning imaginary numbers is particularly useful for people who get really involved in calculating electrical impedance (for electrical engineers), then kids interested in electronics might take more note of the lesson.
>>69077512
> Division and multiplication don't actually have a "priority" because they're the same operation
Read back further. That was my point. I was correcting the Aussies insane parentheses usage.
>>69077629
>you will never be a mathematical genius
why even live?
>>69077629
Exactly. All of those men are real mathemeticians. We need to remove this algebra away from our schools are place it with real maths made by gass and nuetron.
>>69077480
She only pays the interest over the amount she loaned, doesn't amortize, so it just keeps adding up
>>69074302
I want to put my penis in her vagina and rummage around.
>>69074580
>pizzanomics
>>69076990
>anons don't want to affect thousands of peoples lives in order to make them functioning adults, while complaining about children having no hope, so they suggest keep letting morons teach children over themselves
You are literally asking to destroy millions of lives; you are a literal hitler.
>>69077501
>>69077642
no, wait 12/2^6.
>>69077711
>2*3*4/4*2/5
>(2)*(3)*(4)/(4)*(2)/(5)
>(2)*(3)*(4)*(1/4)*(2)*(1/5)
>>69076156
This is actually a super hot topic in AI development right now. Personally, I always favor the rights of the user, in your example, the driver. With proper sensors and markers, you could delineate between a valid pedestrian and an invalid pedestrian/s on a highway. If I wrote the code for your car anon, your life would be more important than the life of someone breaking the law on a highway.
>>69077531
If you want to be respected in society then be a lawyer. As much of a blood sucking insect they are, at least they arent the bottom feeders teachers are. I had 1 good one, and he was an engineer before becoming a teacher, which he did because, and I quote "The money is better and I get to do whatever I want for most of the year. In my late 40s Ill spend 3 years working my ass off to boost my pension amount and retire early."
>>69076860
Jackson did it.
>>69077817
Yes
>>69077817
colder
>>69077918
If he was an engineer and managed his money properly he would have been able to retire well before his late 40s.
>>69077809
You can't teach niggers stuff and expect their brains to absorb it.
They literally do not have the wetware to learn how to learn.
algebra is a stumbling block because it's hard for 85 IQ people to grasp
if you're too stupid to graduate from high school, you shouldn't graduate.
why should the goal of high school be to graduate everyone, even the borderline retarded? I think libcuck teachers have this delusion that as long as they find the right teaching methods, they can reach anyone. that's obviously not true.
>>69076156
The car should protect whoever is obeying the law at the expense of whoever is breaking the law. If both parties are obeying the law but there's still somehow an accident (e.g. brake failure), protect the driver.
>>69077973
j-just kidding i was only pretending to be retarded
Always wondered how they came up with this stuff. Those archaic names and patterns.
>>69077699
Its ridiculous that they would teach you that when you were learning how to square numbers. Should have waited until a more appropriate time.
i is just a tool that someone made up in order to better describe the world. It is not like you can point to it. For instance, i is used a lot in quantum mechanics, but if you end up with one in your final value of an observable you fucked up.
>>69076970
Probability is irrelevant since the coin flip is not inherently random.
It is only perceived as random.
For an event to be truly random is for it to be beyond human intervention.
>>69077962
yay, still have some braincells left
>>69078110
arigato, leaf-kun
>>69077129
No, in the United States, there is no obligation to rescue someone.
>>69076156
No, AI roads will be off limits to fleshies just like highways are.
If you're on there, don't be surprised when the robot car runs you over.
>>69074580
The problem STATES that Marty at more.
It should be asked IF Marty ate more.
Fuck this made me angry.
>>69076354
Why delta?
I always used a regular d for differentiation
Crosspost from another thread.
I got fucked in high school when it came to math. 9th grade teacher tried that new age shit to teach her class. It was like teaching algebra to six year olds with her methods, trying to learn through dancing and clapping and shit. Fucking liberals.
>my face when Americans clap to learn math
10th grade was fine in terms of teaching, though it was geometry, and the teacher didn't care. Would literally spend a class watching 24 because his DVR didn't record it the night before. 11th grade, my math teacher legitimately quit halfway through the year, and we bounced on subs for a while, so we couldn't learn. By 12th grade, they just dumped me and most of my classmates into a remedial class.
Biggest thing hindering me from getting my college degree right now. Math has literally fucked my higher education over because my teachers sucked ass at teaching. My degree doesn't even use math outside of measurements.
The problem with American education math is that they don't teach how to understand the problem. From elementary school, students are given formula charts. They literally take a month or two in high school math to teach you how to plug stuff into calculators, instead of what you do and why. By the time you get to college, you're absolutely fucked when most classes don't allow those.
>>69076378
This is the correct answer because then the trolley does a sick spin move once it hits the loop-da-loop.
>>69078027
>>69078027
No, because the government takes alot of your shit if you dont work for them and want to retire early. I think it was like 60% of your investments that they force you to put money into. That and it was a mechanical engineer that worked in a machine shop. He got like 50k starting with little room of improvement or something like that. He hated the union people too. Half the class we talked instead of doing calculus.
>>69077918
Are American schools really this fucked up?
Every teacher I ever had genuinely wanted to teach. I still remember a few great ones, and a single one who was based as fuck.
>>69077531
i'm basically in the same boat as you anon
i was majoring in graphic design but i of course am having second thoughts because advertising is fucking evil, and how competitive this industry is for shit i can't care about
gotta choose soon before i stop getting grants after my AA
but now i'm basically thinking of becoming a teacher, carpenter, or move to the north/mid west and live a quiet life doing something menial but still enjoy low crime rates
>>69077706
Its because most people teaching algebra have no idea what they are talking about. They are generally people who hated math to begin with and became middle school teachers. They do not know why i is useful or when it should be taught.
By the time kids get to high school math, where the teacher had to almost get a bachelors in math to teach it, the teacher has to spend all their time teaching them remedial bullshit that should of been taught years ago.
>>69078254
50k a year should be more than enough to retire by 40 with frugal living and proper investments.
>>69078219
because partial derivatives
>>69078163
does that include a human built coin flipping device?
>>69077906
Heer's the first guy.
>>69074847
My response, a question that might be used to test PEMDAS knowledge.
>>69076170
This guy was wrong I showed it here.>>69076404
Another typical exam question to test PEMDAS. Here's him trying to correct me.>>69076674
I showed him how he should properly use parentheses.>>69077316
And then you came in. I wouldn't write the expression in such a ridiculous way, I was just showing that MD and AS have the same priority in PEMDAS.
>>69078442
Yea I realized after I posted lel
>>69076378
Underrated
>>69077937
Jackson learned from a bunch of other books and teachers and combined that knowledge to make graduate students waste their time.
>>69076532
Holy shit. Ignorance is bliss.
>>69078352
Why would B be 50%
>>69078280
I went to pprivate school all my life except for the last year, 12th grade. Im fairly sure the catholic school teachers wanted to off themselves but never said so. In 12th grade I had a elderly lady teaching history who would complain every morning about how she couldnt wait to get out of school. An english teacher who romanticized death. Gym was fucking gym. Same history lady for my economics class. Calculus awesome teacher. Then I left the shcool and went to a vo-tech for an engineering class, with a teacher who hated us.
>>69078351
He could do that, and get fucked by he government when it came time to retire, or he could be a teacher, start out with a bit less money, but get shitloads of raises. Then not get fucked by the government when he wants to retire and instead get his 3 highest paid years as a bonus for quitting. I think its obvious which is the better job if you want to retire early.
>>69077583
Aww, come on, m8. There's got to be some kind of specific answer on a test that made you rage/laugh at it's stupidity. Or even a situation, such as from my own experience as a math tutor at a community college where a nig walked in on the first day and didn't even know how to fucking multiply, as in did not even understand the concept of multiplication.
>>69075156
Because division and subtraction are not real operators. We use them for the convenience. Subtraction is the addition of a negative number. Division is multiplication with a reciprocal number.
>>69078682
What the fuck do you mean get fucked by the government? He already has the money.
>>69078469
Only if that device is capable of processing numbers faster than a human, and the person cannot see the flip being done.
>>69078760
No, you are forced to put quite a bit into investments by the government. They take it directly out of your pay check, you never see the money. When you retire you get it if you retire when they say so. This doesnt happen if you work for them.
>>69079049
You mean social security? That's only 13%. There's still plenty of money left over.
>>69076354
Too tired to do the chain rule, sorry
>>69078760
Anon, you might be retarded.
401k's get taxed very hard if you dig into them before you're retirement age.
>>69077391
Source animu please? She looks super cute. My protective instincts tell me I would enjoy watching this.
>>69079191
Boku no Pico
>>69079133
And 401k, and any amount of money is still money lost. 13% sure, but lets say you only get 50% of your cash from your pay check, that 13% is then alot.
>>69076985
It's really not, It's actually a very accurate representation of the American educational system.
>>69079164
It's called a 5 year Roth rollover. You're retarded. Also no one forces you to invest into a 401k.
>>69078646
I'm guessing to be a pain in the ass.
the chance on a multiple choice is 25%, but seeing as there are 2 answers marked 25%, then it would raise it to 50% which is b, I'm not sure what the 0 is for though.
>>69074302
I could never do math beyond Multiplication, and not even all of that. I assume I am some kind of retarded. Also, I have an IQ of 140, so I don't know what any of this means.
>>69076970
its 6*1/6^2 if I understand the question correctly, there has to be 1 person who's odd, not more than one, correct? then it's 6/64
>>69078646
so they can list 25% twice without it being side by side and confuse people
>>69079375
maybe you're one of those autists with a secret gift
>>69078351
if you're a fucking NEET wizard permavirgin it is.
>>69079260
Fuck off with that gay shit. >:(
>>69079133
Lets say you live in Pennsylvanian like me. 33% taxes. add 6% sales tax. You are down to 61% of your pay check. Then take away that 13%. Its not so little when its over 1/5 of whats left.
>>69078280
Yeah. Under NCLB/RTTT it was bad enough, but under Common Core you basically aren't allowed to teach anymore. You're a babysitter who has to present rote lessons to the kids, with no flexibility in terms of how to do your presentations.
When I was in school, it wasn't bad at all, but NCLB broke the system, and every "fix" has made it worse.
>>69074302
niggers and spics
all there is to it
>>69078352
its 50% if its a single choice
its variable for double or triple choice
>>69077698
And this is why US won't fully adopt the metric system.
Because it's equally (if not more) arbitrary than the one we prefer.
The difference is we sent a man on the moon.
>>69079604
mm, yeah its 2*6*1/2^6
>>69077391
>>69079191
Oh wait this is YuruYuri.
>>69076970
2^6 possibilities in total (64)
1 possibility for each person where they're the only heads (6)
1 possibility for each where they're the only tails (6)
12/64, 0.1875/1 chance
>>69074302
yes but meme math like statistics should not.
>>69078351
Yeah right....Unless you live on next to nothing with maybe a life expectancy of 70 and a very aggressive rate of return. You need 19.5 years of non-qualified assets to get to age 59.5 to access your IRA/401k, and your SSI won't kick in until age 62. It will be a small monthly benefit because you only paid in for maybe 20 years. Not to mention the cost of COBRA or even a cheap ass obamacare policy.
I run retirement projections every day. I have seen early retirements but not at that income level
>>69079906
You can access your 401k after 5 years by converting it to a Roth IRA.
>>69079375
>>69079517
IQ tests are highly contextual.
The one you took may have been biased towards your abilities, indirectly or otherwise.
With that being said, if an IQ tests is biased towards math-skills it will probably end up giving you a lower score.
>>69074302
Yo this girl has a massive horse face. It's a shame because her body is an easy 10/10
>>69077104
exp(i * pi) = -1
>>69080039
horse face isn't necessarily ugly
she's a slut though, so instantly disqualified
>>69080039
Nothing a little plastic surgery and orthodontia can't fix. Could probably get it done for less than $20k.
Is /pol/ smart enough to solve this? Most of you got it wrong the last time I posted it.
>>69074302
Holy fuck. This is what social justice warriors want. How the fuck they are supposed to understand any other math if they can't understand basics?
>>69080331
A K 7
>>69079611
>NCLB
> If required improvements are not made, the schools face decreased funding and other punishments that contribute to the increased accountability.
No idea if you were refering to that, but that shit is beyond retarded.
>>69074302
>Political Scientist
>Political
>Scientist
>>69080386
Why not just A, 7? It never said anything about even numbers cant be on the opposite side of consonants.
>>69080331
>smart
honestly this is mostly testing whether you've been instructed in formal logic
>>69080331
Just A
>>69080331
All 4 have to be turned over.
Because if K or 7 have an even number/vowel on the other side, the rule hasn't been followed.
And of course, you have to check if A and 2 have an Even Number/Vowel on the other side as well.
I admit it's a good one.
>>69074580
Maths student here, language can be structured to make logical statements, and logic can be interpreted with maths.
The kid's answer is THE correct answer. The wording of the question is absolute, there is no ambiguity about who ate more pizza, and the only answer which satisfies the question is that 4/6MP>5/6LP.
Simplified, MP>5/4LP
>>69078352
God this fucking thing.There is no right answer.
>>69080583
It never said anything about cards not having letters on both sides.
>>69080616
What if the other side of 7 is E?
>>69080663
Fair enough
>>69080331
A, 7
As A is a vowel, we need to check to see if there is an even number.
As K is a consonant, and as there are no rules regarding those, we do not need to check K.
2 is an even number, but there is no rule stating a consonant cannot be on the other side.
7 is an odd number, we need to check to make sure there is no vowel on the other side.
>>69080331
A and 7
>>69076519
what does arc length have to do with this faggot
retard
>>69074302
who is this master semen summoner?
and does she have any asuka cosplay/porn??
>>69074302
As soon as you explain where I can find more of this semen demon.
>>69074302
Who is that demon semen?
>>69079993
You can access a 401k at anytime with a penalty and paying income tax. Converting a 401k to a Roth is a taxable event. You are thinking of the 5yr distribution rules on gains/principal from a roth ira.
>>69074580
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>69080624
The card with 2 need not be checked. If it has a vowel, it's consistent with the statement. If it has anything else, the statement does not apply.
>>69081066
You can convert the 401k to Roth and pay the taxes, and then be able to access the principle penalty free after 5 years.
>>69081046
What if K has a vowel on the other side?
>>69074580
This is why you guys should check your kid's homework and praise em for the correct reason in society, not what the teacher says.
Because they are still young, its best to build their mindset, basically redpill them slightly until they hit highschool.
>>69081046
Ok, then A has 4 on the other side, and 7 has L. The K has an E. Ho are you supposed to know if it followed the rule without that. And if that was acceptable why not just check A too see if the rule was followed.
>>69080973
>>69081025
>>69081055
She is ugly. This is her only good picture because it isn't showing her face.
Any actual teachers here?
How hard is it to resist the temptation of female students?
>>69080331
the answer is ak7
>>69075081
It's not just niggers, it's also spics.
There was actually an article about this that 'unironically' proved the point. It was something like "test scores at their lowest in a decade" and then right below it something about "higher percentage of test takers are non-white."
I just can't remember where it was. It was from a legitimate news source, though, not dailystormer or whatever the fuck.
>>69080331
also, isn't this from a video? someone post it
>>69081292
She looks ok from some angles and besides, libertines deserve appreciation.
>>69077243
Teachers shouldn't see it as just a "dead end job", if they do they should be fired so they can get a "real" job and make "real money", that kind of attitude is extremely corrosive to their students, many of whom have parents that don't make half that much money and have to work longer hours at much shittier jobs.
It's really a huge problem in America because almost all of our teachers are middle class women who've been spoon fed their whole lives and have no life experience outside of college, of course $40G a year is shit pay compared to what their parents make/ made.
We need more male teachers in the US, that's the only way to fix our educational system. We'll never do it though, (men have to get a "real" job, preferably one that makes you out to be cold and emotionless, like an engineer, or a lawyer) instead we'll just keep lowering our standards so we look better as a country (and so our school boards will keep there funding) we'll ignore the problem and hope it just fucking goes away one day.
>>69074302
Making it part of a mandatory universal curriculum is an unnecessary stumbling block.
The least common denominator is retardation, so any mandatory curriculum has to start with retard level education.
PS. god damn these captcha's, half the entries turn into guesswork about how a retard American might misinterpret an image.
>>69074725
It isn't. Just the standards for teaching in primary schools are low.
>>69074580
I got marked off for questions like that all the time.
The teachers were shit like I'm supposed to know the question is written wrong.
>>69080331
The A and the 7. K isn't a vowel, and it doesn't say only cards with vowels can have an even number.
Am I right? (I didn't look at any other responses to this post.)
>>69076861
>law
>lots of money
KEK
I'm 4 years into my 5,5 BA/LLB right now and I am looking forward to spending the next 15 years of my life indebted and working like 16 hours a day for just normie wages.
I'm going through the process of getting clerkships at the moment and holy fuck, I wish I studied harder in my earlier years. I didn't even get bad grades, they were just exceedingly average. I worked out too late that I was actually good at law if I just applied myself.
Don't go to law school unless you're prepared to disregard your entire life and just devote it to studying and getting work experience (read: literal slave labour).
Actually, no, just don't go to law school, fuck off there's too many lawyers now anyway and we don't need more cucks like you crowding us out
>>69081697
yeah, its A and 7.
>>69075081
>WE WUZ TRIGONOMETRY N SHIEEEEET
>M-MUH PYRAMIDS!
THE REASON GOOD UNIVERSITIES ARE EXPENSIVE IS TO KEEP THE PLEBS OUT
>>69080331
>The correct answer is A and 7.
>When Wason and his colleague Johnson-Laird put this type of question to 128 university students, they found that "A and 2" was the most common response (given by 59 people), and "A" was the next most common (given by 42). In other words, students chose the cards capable of confirming the statement rather than disconfirming it. The tendency to seek out confirming evidence is known as a "confirmation bias."
>>69081873
Yeah, I just looked it up.
See: >>69081895
https://www.socialpsychology.org/teach/wasona.htm
Marty ate more, impossible question qithout sizes.
>>69081697
What if E is on the other side of K?
>>69081872
Your loss, my uncle became a partner at a firm 3 years after getting out. He was a suburbanite so he didnt have connections. Currently makes millions, but not as much as my other uncle who runes multiple hospital chains computer systems. Then there is my family who decided to adopt 3 kids more then the 2 they had, and try to get by on 100k, which should be easy, but for some reason they spend 40 of that on private schooling.
>>69081425
It's that picture of a newspaper
>Students see rise in SAT Scores
>but drop in number of black test-takers concerns officials
funny shit. I definitely experienced this sort of thing back in high school though. Only one black kid in the honors classes, no white kids in special ed.
>>69081895
>>69081928
this is only correct if you've been explicitly told that the cards are strictly letter-number combinations
>>69074580
Classic example of high iq kids getting punished by a dipshit education system.
How much do you want to bet the kid that wrote this is diagnosed with ADHD and on medication? How much do you want to bet he's in the "special" learning classes full of troublemakers and retarded kids because of pressure the school is putting on his single mom and she realizes she can get benefits out of it?
Education in this country is a cookie factory. Every pile of dough goes through the same cutter no matter the quantity, and the only quality control they have is a ham fisted retard who removes way too much dough from the ones he thinks have too much BEFORE they get to the cutter.
>>69081375
Not very hard, why would the fuck would you want to fuck a kid first of all (yes, I'm mean high schoolers too), and second it would ruin your live in so many ways if everyone found out, you would lose your career that you spent years and thousands to get a degree for and you would be labeled a sex offender making it harder to get another job that isn't shit, not to mention possible jail time.
>>69074302
I NEED A QT REDHEAD....that is better looking than your pic related.
Still would hit it though. I am reaching Estonia levels.
>>69082342
I like how you automatically go for the worst. Could be talking about college teacher.
>>69082328
>>69082018
But that's the implication in the question. That one side has a letter and the other a number.
>>69082201
Yeah that was it. Wish I hadn't reformatted my computer without saving a bunch of shit. Oh well.
>>69081375
teenage girls are actually pretty fucking gross. You have to be a real horndog that's attracted more to the body than the person to want to fuck one.
>>69082512
But it doesnt out right say it. Therefor it would be symbols on the other side with no correlation to numbers or letters for all w know.
>>69082512
it doesn't appear implied at all to me
all i see is cards with stuff on it
>>69074580
just a poorly worded question, it didn't specify that their pizzas had to be the same size. It was also worded in a way that implied that it was possible for the first kid to have eaten more.
Probably not an issue with the teaching content, as much as it is with the wording of questions.
>>69082528
>not thinking about college girls
Hell college girls could be in their 30s, if thats illegal then there are problems.
>>69082496
It was implied.
>I think you mean a professor btw
>Explain yourselves, Americans.
Simple. Liberalism. It's goal is the destruction of western society and reverting us back to barbaric animals again. It's working. They're winning.
>>69082679
Professor would be for someone who teaches something worth while. History is not a worth while subject therefore is undeserving of the title of professor. Its a tier above gender studies.
>>69082627
Its not implied that the first kid ate more, it flat out made it a rule of the equation.
The answer the kid gave is in all actuality the only correct answer..... unless he is an X-man whose super power is that every time he takes a bite of pizza the amount is doubled.
>>69080662
It's a trick question.
Because A and D are both 25%, you can reduce that to one variable answer. The answer cannot be C, because you can't have no chance of getting the right answer.
This means there's only two potential answers- 25% and 50%. Or, in other words, b.
>>69082583
>>69082621
So I take it you got it wrong. That's okay. You're with the overwhelmling majority. And I found the video the image is from.
>>69076861
>1/4 of the year off, shit on kids cause you dont need to do real work, Pension, stop working early because you work for the government
As someone who has an education degree, I have a couple of things to say.
>1/4 of the year off
This isn't true. You're gonna get maybe half of that off, then spend the rest of it planning or at meetings. Teaching has a lot of time off the clock, which is the main reason that teachers complain that they aren't getting paid enough.
>shit on kids cause you dont need to do real work
If you mistreat kids, it's VERY easy to get fired. If you aren't doing your job, your job will be on the line very quickly, especially in certain States. Especially because of standardized testing and other standards systems that both judge your effectiveness and put your job or pay on the line as a result.
> stop working early because you work for the government
Is this a point about tenure? Because you don't get that as soon as you start working. It's earned by you being good enough at your job to keep it enough years to be granted it. And then if you knock off too hard, you can still be fired (though it is MUCH harder to fire you.)
>>69082897
Not a single one with K, where is the reasoning behind it. The explanation why k isnt one.
>>69077665
Algebra is pretty useful. Trig or calc less so.
>>69080331
Fucking Americans, it's AK 47
US schools are a stumbling block to a productive American future. Compulsory education inevitably leads to inefficiencies such as teaching algebra to people who will never need it but be held back by the difficulty.
>>69083000
>calc
>not useful
How else will you calculate the acceleration based on the two speeds you clocked yourself at while rolling don a hill in a shopping cart? And dont say physics because in that equasion they are the same thing.
>>69076768
We have a lesbian premier in Ontario. Extremely corrupt and pushes gay degeneracy on the kids in their textbooks. Can't balance a budget and now the highest sub-sovereign debt in the world.
Literally everything math related is ignored.
>information age
>people are regressing somehow
why
>>69082897
Hey, I've explained it in English (which you appear to know) in my other post here: >>69082328
This should clear up your misunderstanding.
>>69082877
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you familia, it's a terrible question, but at least the kid answered it in the correct way (ignoring how the marker thought it should've been answered), this means that they're probably taught correctly, and that this question (and others like it) is just a rarity - I'm sure most questions that these kids see make perfect sense.
>>69076354
dw/ds = (6s^2)/t + 2t
dw/dt = 2s - (2s^3)/t^2
Am i right?
>>69077104
"i" is the square root of -1.
>>69082889
It cant be 25% because there are two which would make the chance of selecting that answer 50%.
It also cant be 50% because to choose it has a 25% chance.
0% cannot be correct because if it were correct it would have a 25% chance of being selected.
Every answer is incorrect.
>>69074302
They are right though. Not everyone needs to know basic algebra. Not everyone needs to have a college or high school degree.
The reason the education system is so shit is the myth that everyone should graduate from college, and that college degree = better jobs. This results in lowering standards so that people can receive meaningless pieces of paper.
Instead of of trying to create alternatives to algebra though, these administrators should be ok with the kids dropping out and it should be acceptable in our culture for people to drop out of school and enter the workforce.
>>69076156
>Must die for greater good
What are emergency brakes?
>>69082973
>Not a single one with K
Those would be included with "10% - other"
>K
>AK
>AK2
>AK27
>K2
>K27
>K7
>etc.
>>69074580
The teacher would also probable not accept the answer "Marty is probably black and stole pizza from some one else."
>>69083281
b-but it doesn't have a 25% chance to choose B
You can't have a 0% chance, so that rules out C, making it 1/3 chance of success, but then you have two 25% answers, A and D, this means that the choice is between 2 options, 25% or 50%.
and since there are only two options on the table, your chance of getting it correct is 50%.
>>69074580
What is the answer besides the kid's though? How else would it be possible?
>>69082459
This is another Asuka cosplayer I found by browsing the first one's deviantart. Slightly better face, nicer booty, much smaller chest.
>>69076970
1/32
>>69080661
see >>69083512
It doesn't say he only ate his own pizza so there are infinite possible answers.
>>69083519
I see what you are doing but you cant just change the base system of which that question is randomly choosing.
I do concede that if you can change the structure of the choice, the question would have an answer would be 50%. But it specifically gives the 4 option matrix.
>>69082889
If you exclude C then you're not choosing at random. Choosing at random means you can choose A B C D even if one of them is obviously wrong.
>>69082661
they learn their degenerate behavior in highschool and carry it to college where they perfect it into an art and they're taught to disregard all criticism.
To find decent women in a learning environment you have to teach at a very high quality place free of the sjw taint.
>>69081292
>She
>Ugly
Faggot
>>69076200
I would be fine with ditching math if they introduced more functional training courses in high school. For example, my high school partnered with a technical college to offer CNA courses for free. I was able to finish the course, get my certification, and started working as a CNA while 16 years old. This put me very far ahead in the medical field and gave me a real job early on.
Social interaction might be something schools will have to tackle as well. I learned recently my church (I am LDS) has to put some missionaries through social training just to help them learn how to talk to people because they have never interacted with other human beings face to face in a meaningful way.
Of course, we have to ask the question through all of this: Where are the parents?
>>69082889
The trick question is by picking an answer with intent of it being the correct answer you have already failed the criteria of the problem by not picking randomly.
In other words, If you intentionally pick an answer, it's not an answer you got by picking randomly and therefore the question is fucked. A catch .22
>>69083933
looks like my mom. The only way she could look more like my mom is if she was stuffed with mexican dick and had meth teeth.
>>69080331
A, 2, and 7
A and 2 for their contrapositive and 7 to see if it disproves the rule
K is irrelevant
>>69084015
This is true. But lets suppose the answer is selected at random.
There is still no right answer per the questions verbiage.
>>69076064
the dude with the lever is huge as fuck
I leap in front of the trolley, using the strong body The Good Lord Above gave me, i lift the trolley far enough to ensure everyone is okay, unfortunately i took massive damage from the trolley and i now have severe internal bleeding, i die before the paramedics can save me. i lived a good life and it was worth it.
or i can just pull the level and move the guy before it hits him
>>69084112
answer is AK7
2 is irrelevant because it can be any symbol on the other side
K must be checked because the other side could be a vowel
>>69083933
at least post women that have freckles that aren't ugly
>>69077104
Protip: Imaginary numbers are a separate system of mathematics than normal. There's many different systems of mathematics and most of them aren't used. Imaginary numbers are just popular because there's results that carry over to our normal number system.
It's like using as one of the axioms that the length of the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle is the sum of the two sides, rather than using the pythagorean formula (c=a+b as opposed to c^2=a^2+b^2). It's different than our normal math system, you don't miss anything by not knowing it exists, but it's useful in some applications.
>>69084015
but, let's say it's a hypothetical and that we're picking an answer intentionally this time. Is the answer you pick the "correct" answer when you pick randomly? If so it's 25% because there are four choices, but here's where the fucky starts.
What criteria are we using to establish random selection? you can't close your eyes and pick because bias will direct you towards your previous answer, and if you intentionally try to avoid your previous answer in an attempt to be fair and random, the correct answer in intentionally answering becomes C because it's impossible for you to answer randomly.
This problem only becomes genuinely solvable if you can establish and prove a random method for selecting a choice, and then the chance is 25% if we've pre-selected a correct answer before randomly choosing because four different letters. If we haven't previously chose an answer, the answer is 0% because no correct answer is defined, and percentage can not be proven to be more important than the letter. The problem implies the percentage is important but two answers have the same percentage which devalues that theory and that means the chance you will get the right answer is again 25% because you either get one in four or you pass a 50% rng check followed by another 50% rng check. Or something. My brain fucking hurts.
Basically, not enough information.
>>69084934
Hypothetically if you choose the answer the second part of the question because unanswerable because you have 100% chance to choose that answer, and 100% chance is not an option.
>>69085789
becomes*
