2016, all the advances of science and technology, more education for the masses and yet millions of Americans continue to believe in an imaginary sky wizard and his man-made rules.
Expalin that to me.
>>69059878
Millions of people belived Steve Jobs was the most innovative person alive.
Atleast Jesus came back from the dead.
>>69059878
Humans are so incredibly insecure
Science doesn't answer everything.
t. scientist
>>69060134
Is it fear of death that does it?
>>69059878
>Europe Goes Athiest
>Europe Imports Muslim Hordes
Nah, I rather deal with Christians
>>69060064
>Atleast Jesus came back from the dead.
Retard detected
>>69060297
When will you wake up and realize Christian values are basically identical to Islamic values?
>>69059878
>Believe in god
>get married
>have kids
>raise your kids religious
>repeat
>don't believe in god
>constantly do drugs and party and sleep around
>"lol dude marriage is a trap man enjoy your freedom dude lol beer and mdma instead"
>don't get married
>don't have kids
>population shrinking so have to import shit skins
>"lol dude my ancestors believed in a fake sky fairy so they're dumb and our history and culture doesn't matter. We're all the same man"
>new immigrants are religious and have children and raise them religious
>repeat
Pretty self explanatory my dude
>>69059878
God is the ground of being.
current year and people are going full burger interpreting pic related as a literal depiction of God
It's all imaginary. This sentence is imaginary, composed of imagined letters that represent imagined sounds to explain imagined ideas. Like this one.
>>69060297
This is really bizarre, who could have predicted this?
What sensible atheist would say "religion is stupid, but Islam is pretty cool and we should import the entire middle east into the west"?
>>69060297
Europe is not atheist. Most of the ones welcoming the Muslims are in fact friendly Christians who believe they can coexist. Atheists are a fractional (<0.1%) minority in pretty much every single country except China.
>>69060484
When Christians start killing people in the amount that Muslims do.
>>69059878
>science magically explains everything
>t. 16 year old that re-tweets ''I Fucking Love Science'' shit
>>69060694
Globalists m8.
Don't even try to pretend Christianity isn't a fundamentally cuck religion given the pope is snogging refugee feet.
>>69060484
I don't know man, but I don't think Jesus married a 9 year old nor commanded his followers to kill nonbelievers. I'm just saying.
>>69060916
>christian government agency
>unsurprisingly finds islam worse than christianity
I would rate every single death in the Christian crusades in Iraq & Afghanistan as a terrorist death by Christian Extremists
From your own President's lips:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
>I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did.
>>69060771
>Atheists are a fractional (<0.1%) minority in pretty much every single country except China.
u wot m8
>>69060987
>bible magically explains everything
>t. idiot raised by idiots to believe in imaginary sky wizard fairytales
Because I believe in the Lord God, what the fuck can you do about it pussy.
>>69060247
Abrahamics are death cults. Dying is easy, living is the hard part. Being a member of some grandiose death cult makes living easier, proverbial burying head in sand, pull it out just before death. It's no way to go through life.
>>69061094
Not in the present, wishy-washy version.
Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
As well as Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
>>69059878
you're deluded if you think you're any more enlightened and rational than believers of centuries past.
people are as superstitious as they ever were, only now with all the distractions they're completely out of touch with reality and unwilling to reflect.
>>69061066
Come to Texas and call us Christians a pussy.
>>69060916
Why is it that you can correlate Sunni Islam with shit tier people and countries
>>69061146
>anyone that disagrees with me is a christfag
go huff some paint abo
>>69061329
You sound like a Muslim. Gratz
>>69061352
Go find some lube so you can masturbate your circumcised penis, remember that? your kike-loving parents cutting a bit of your willy off when you were born so that they could pledge allegiance to Israel?
>>69059878
If it gives them happiness and motivation then who cares. You've also got to realise that most scientific developments and contributions have been made by religious people, so clearly religion is holding people, civilisation and science back.
>>69059878
boredom + tradition
>>69061337
Because Sunnis are Barbarians.
>>69059878
>Science can tell us the truth and teach us everything about the universe. It can give us all the answers.
>We don't know everything but religion isn't the answer.
>>69061498
sorry irwin, they don't clip their kids in the islands
>>69061095
>600 year old defensive wars
>Where they mostly lost
>In any way comparable to today
You're a special kind of stupid.
>>69061861
What islands?
>>69059878
>2016
>only Christianity says all humans are CREATED equal
>science disproves this
>atheists hate Christianity
>the social justice movement is based on the christian idea that all humans are equal
why are you atheist fagets against eugenics and killing off the weaker races if you really do believe in human evolution
>>69060771
Point to me on this map where the cuck countries are, this is % Who believe in God in 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Europe#/media/File:Europe_belief_in_god.svg
>>69060771
You just went full retard
>>69061486
You sound degenerate
>>69061993
good ol caribbean, where they don't mutilate their kids regularly
>>69062095
Allah is a false god, though. I doubt those imps in turkey believe in real God.
>>69061095
Wow, you're a special kinda of retard. Probably one of the few Achmeds in Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
>>69061066
Only mexican, Irish, and italian americans are catholic. The rest don't give a shit about that fruitcake kissing muslim feet
>>69061146
>Science is always the conclusion and all other conclusions are wrong and unscientific because that is how science works. .
>>69062215
So you're a nigger.
>>69062439
only half :^)
>>69062473
Do you have a BBC?
>>69060484
When will you go to sleep and die from poisonous spider bites?
>>69062735
average 6 and 1/2 inch, porn isn't real life
>>69062431
>God exists because a man told me he exists
>Why, it just can't be false!
>>69062749
Hey, that's not fucking nice, I was being nice to you, asshole.
>>69059878
>CURRENT YEAR
>>69059878
Say we should speak out against religion in public schools.
Doesn't say anything about muslims effecting public schools.
Atheist Logic.
If this sign was about tits, feminists would go nuts and have it taken down because it would be "misogynistic"
>>69059878
There is literally no reason science and religion can't coexist. People just like to be assholes.
>>69059878
>doesn't believe in God because he can't be seen
>probably believes in the possibility of aliens
>doesn't believe in God because you can't see him
>follows secular doctrination at face value
>doesn't believe in God because you can't see him
>believes in evolution which is a theory
>doesn't believe in God
>thinks everything happened by chance
This will be replied to with no defense or explanation from the opposer. He will resort to an insult or weak rebuttal
>>69059878
Religion is like a penis, atheists don't have one.
>>69059878
I must say, it's really convenient how all these advances in theoretical physics are coming right in time as people are growing atheist in greater numbers.
People are claiming that science and technology can adequately explain our universe while quantum physical phenomena fuck with our brains so hard that our greatest physicists are content with thinking that our existence is a virtual simulation.
Nay, convenient isn't the right word for it. It's poetic justice.
>>69063365
>No reason
except in the fringe cases of Young Earth Creationists, flat-earthers, and other literal biblical outliers. They generally do affirm that somehow god just did everything.
The entire call around Intelligent Design is inherently anti-science, it promotes no critical thinking or any sort of investigative processes. Just "some intelligent shit did it"
>>69063783
I think we have a wiener, guys.
>>69059878
It's always the same with you people, you don't want to believe in anything fine, don't do it, but here you have to go, telling everybody how intellectually sound you are and how the rest of the world is wrong because "I don't like religion".
Leave them be and they'll leave you be
>>69063048
Nope, god is proven based on the works and deaths of the apostles. All of them died for their faith with the exception of john who was exiled.
>>69063099
He'll stab you with his toothbrush if you're not careful
>>69063820
The idea that this is all a simulation is what made me accept people's belief in various religions. I mean fuck, maybe Jesus was just a guy with cheat codes.
>>69064240
Its not even that, evangelicals push their religion on people spreading the unfounded notion that if you don't believe in their god, you're going to hell.
Islam is the same way, any non-muslim is absolutely haram and anything that goes against the caliph is grounds for death
Christianity played a vital role in ending slavery in Europe. If this never happened there's a good chance that it would have continued as in the middle east and asia, thereby removing incentive to replace labor with capital.
Athiests always blame Christianity for stopping progress, but if it never existed we would probably be centuries behind where we are now.
>>69063714
Thinking that there might be aliens doesn't mean you'll act like they do and are looking at you.
Of course, such weirdos exist.
>>69063714
Your entire argument falls apart once you remove the base premise that it's founded on. Which is that you think people don't believe in God because they can't see him.
People wouldn't believe in God even if you could see him. Besides, sight has nothing to do with it. Religion is faith based. Faith has nothing to back it up, but selfish desire.
A belief in God only works if the person believing has selfish desires. Guess what's great for religion? Pretty much every Human has selfish desires.
You think a benevolent God would want a bunch of people following him for selfish reasons only? I don't think so.
I also don't think it's possible to have faith for a reason that isn't selfish.
>>69059878
OP doesn't like freedom of conscience.
>>69059878
Why not?
>>69064356
That only proves they really believed in God, not that God exists.
Some people believe that electricity was invented so what. Can't explain it in a few words beit basically most people are just not thinking deep enough.
Me and God have an understanding.
Have you ever had that intense debate with a Christian who has never encountered an atheist before? What's one of the first things that come out of their mouths?
>Well if God doesn't exist, then what is the point of morality if there are no consequences for your actions?
The fact that they immediately respond to the notion that there isn't some ethereal superbeing hiding behind the curtains of reality waiting for the "bad people" to die so he can toss them in a bonfire for all eternity and they immediately view it as a justification to abandon their own sense of morality should alarm you.
The ancients weren't idiots. They built this elaborate psychological trap from the ground up. Don't pull these people out of the hole forcibly. They're there for a reason.
>>69064399
Yep. And not just Jesus, but a bunch of monks, yogis, rabbis, etc. who are reputed with having supernatural powers.
It's like the harder people use science to debunk God, the harder science ends up debunking atheists
>>69059878
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
We have our reasons.
Christianity, as a philosophy, is actually very beneficial. Jesus was one of the greatest thinkers in the history of the world, and one of the first people to teach empathy with our fellow humans.
OTOH, nothing can even come close to naturalistic pantheism
>>69060142
The key difference between science and religion though is that science does answer some things.
>>69065091
Most meaningful answer so far
>>69065091
>the ancients weren't idiots
Couldn't even figure out bad hygiene causes sickness.
>>69065091
>I hate Christians and God.
>but let me tell you all about it
>>69064431
>Some religious people act like dicks
>I'm gonna act like a dick in the exact same way because I'm RIGHT
>This will prove the superiority of my position
Trust me, there are non-religious AND religious people who hate those overly pushy assholes just as much as you do.
It's not an excuse to sink to their level.
>>69060484
Yeah, I remember the part where Jesus said to behead nonbelievers. Oh and the part where the 12 apostles fucked goats and raped little girls.
Oh wait.
Not a Christian, but explain to me why Atheists are constantly so butthurt?
>YOU CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I DON'T YOU MUST BE STUPID
Why do you guys care so much how people find meaning in their lives?
>>69065701
What are you, then? Buddhist?
>>69063365
Science is based on forming falsifiable hypotheses and gathering evidence. Religion doesn't fall into this dynamic. While this does make it possible for them to coexist (By compartmentalizing religion into essentially meaningless, non-empirical claims and using it to prop up slave morality) it does mean anyone who is religion hasn't understood the tenets of scientific reasoning on a deep level.
Not that all atheists have either. There are a millions bad ways to arrive at a correct conclusion.
>>69059878
Because retards on the left made it cool again by implying Muslims weren't nut jobs over nothing.
> welcome to the dark ages 2.0
>>69065478
>there's these stories we take out of context and misconstrue to fit our narrative.
>I've never actually read anything in the Bible but I'm quite knowledgeable on it.
>I can't tell the difference between a story in the Bible and what God wants me to do.
>it's just like islam lol
Allah had no son
>it's just like islam lol
So that's why we defend Muslims over Christians
>it's just like islam lol
Yet here we are today where Christianity is nothing like islam
Dam you guys are enlightening the hell out of me? Where did you guys go to school? How long does it take to be as smart as you?
>>69065701
It's like AIDS Skrillex, Haruki
except instead of
>YOURE A FUCKING WHITE MALE
you get
>YOURE A BRAINWASHED BIBLETHUMPER
>>69065905
We read our Bibles unlike you.
>>69060064
Straya for the best post
>not a SINGLE picture of a fatass tipping his hat
>>69065873
Atheists played around with meme magic, just look at this ancient meme, however, they did not understand the repercussions of misued meme magic.
>>69065333
The miasma theory of disease actually does attribute filth with sickness, in a direct way that is likely more useful in the pre-industrial era than germ theory (Also consider many diseases, like the plague, or cholera, had indirect contamination methods, so the idea of germs isn't always the most obvious explanation).
>>69066018
Wow that just doesn't explain shit. Damn, dude. Are you from the future? Because that statement fucking SHOWED me.
>>69061146
Sorry for being such a retarded newfag, but what the hell does this "t. " meme mean?
>>69066107
What the fuck is this graph
There isn't even a y-axis label. The fuck.
>>69064431
>>69064240
It goes both ways and you both know it.
>>69063820
There are millions who worship "pop science" they get from people like Bill Nye who do no kind of critical thinking or research on their own. They'll take they see from "Science, Fuck yeah" and share it and pretend that they're enlightened for it. Don't get me wrong, people that use God as proof that evolution doesn't exist are retarded, but its just as bad when people disregard any kind of intelligent driving force behind the workings or origin of the universe.
>>69059878
>millions of Americans
I love how you ignore the fact that most of the world also believes in some form of an imaginary skylord, especially europastan, they always point to the Nordics but ignore than they're basically the only ones that aren't minority Christian(or mudslime now days if some kind
>>69066292
lurk more
stop posting, and just read threads
Does anyone have that comic where there's this long line of christian scientists/philosophers, then at the end there's some guy yelling at the last scientist for being christian?
>>69065701
Assuming you're really japanese, you wouldn't understand how hard Christianity is forced in America. Atheists in secular countries seem more chill, but there's a lot of "You're all going to hell" and "All atheists are immoral sinners lying to themselves to justify their sinful lifestyles".
Both these comments and the atheist backlash to them are a distinct, vocal minority of the respective groups. "Atheists" are "constantly so butthurt" because there are hundreds of millions of them on earth and at any given time a few are going to be pissed off.
>>69066195
>dude they couldnt see germs but sort of figured that wiping your ass with your hands wasnt a good idea.
Bravo..bravo...encore.
>the ancients weren't idiots
Couldn't even establish city-states.
>the ancients were idiots
>implying all ancients were exclusively intelligent and not just a few fuckers.
>the ancients weren't idiots
>picks one group
>>69066427
Replied to wrong guy, pepe distracted me.
>>69064024
>>69066672
meme magic works in mysterious ways
>>69060535
This.
>>69066347
You're not familiar with the SI unit for scientific advancement, the "microInternet" or uI for short?
>>69066664
How ancient are we talking? There were certainly city states long before the origin of Christianity, at least.
>>69066870
Is it anything like a hitler?
>>69067119
Ah, yes, that WOULD be the SI unit for Social Advancement.
Except, you know, SI is in france.
>>69065863
At some point, though, you approach subjects that you cannot really study, yet the questions of "why is this happening" still remain, like with the Big Bang. At some point science and philosophy meet.
>>69061250
Nice try shitposter, Luke 19:27 was apart of a parable, Matthew 10:34 spoke about how families would tear apart because of jewish tradition and anything from the Old Testament must be taken with a grain of salt.
>>69067311
Maybe philosophy, but religions are ancient, and don't even approach complex issues like the Big Bang reasonably accurately because they were created before the necessary scientific background existed.
Religions are reasonable for their time, but if we needed a religion of the modern age it would be necessary to make a new one. At some point adding ad-hoc adjustment to something old just doesn't work anymore.
>>69067821
I'd disagree. Religions have evolved alongside us throughout time and adjust to whats required of them. As a species, we continue to learn more about the universe and our place in it, but the fundamental question of why we're here will always stay with us. Being religious doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad scientist. It just means that you have accepted the possibility of a driving force behind the mysteries we have yet to understand or have evidence for. If something proves that wrong, thats fine, but you can never truly rule out that there isn't some type of creator pulling the strings.
>>69069778
It's much more strong than accepting the possibility of an intelligence driving force though, it's accepting it as true.
Consider belief as probabilistic, rather than dual. If I propose to you a hypothesis like "Plant 3 of the 97498739423th closest solar system to earth contains life", you have no positive or negative evidence pertaining to this planet IN PARTICULAR. Instead, you have the observation that life seems fairly rare and the odds any random planet (And the planet I'm singling out seems pretty random) contains life is low enough that you disbelieve me. That's what's called your "Prior", it's essentially the probability you assign to something before taking into account a piece of evidence. You might say "I have no evidence for or against life on this planet, so I have no belief one way or the other", but when you think probabilistically, the probability of life you would give would probably be pretty low (Sub 1%).
The problem with religions is they are optimized as stories, not as truthful statements about the world. As a result, they have lots of precise details, which are unlikely to all (Or even mostly) be true. An atheist essentially says "Every conception of god I've seen is vanishingly unlikely, and there's no evidence supporting them, so I have a low (Potentially as high as 10%, often much lower) probability of one existing".
You're right you can never rule out the probability of god, but then, you can never rule out the probability of ANYTHING (i.e. the problem of induction) (Caveat: Non-tautologies). If belief is to mean something, it must be a RELATIVE assessment, not an absolute one. Atheists disbelieve just like you probably disbelieve in flat-earthism or something, you haven't ruled it out entirely but it's not looking good.
