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>>69036528
>post some shitty quote or view point of left leaning decor
>/pol/ BTFO GUYS ITS OVER WE SHOULD JUST KILL OURSELVES
ok
>>69036528
That picture is so good.
I am now #feelingthebern
His entire platform is based off of the idea that 'corporations are people/billionaires'
>>69036528
Youre right.
Its not free stuff.
Because the middle class and upper class is paying for it.
My taxes will go up $18,000 if bernie wins and I work as an electrician and am married with two kids.
I cant afford that.
Gotta think of my children's future. I want them to be able to make their own businesses/careers and afford to have their own families one day.
PAYING FOR TYRONE'S WELFARE AND CARL'S COLLEGE TUITION IS A VALUABLE PUBLIC SERVICE NOW?
>>69036528
Why are taxes going up if you are just reallocating tax revenue?
>>69036528
/pol/ (both libertarians and natsoc) is well aware of corporate welfare and this image is consistent with our worldview. What's your point?
I used to be a Cruz Missile but now I am #feelingthebern.
>>69036528
>I'm not a faggot, I'm a DEMOCRATIC faggot
- OP
>>69037060
Same here. I already work over a day each week just to pay taxes. No more! I could do without the wars too. But the starting point isn't paying for people's college.
Btw, I worked two jobs and paid for my own college without getting into debt. It wasn't even that difficult. Yes, people are just lazy.
>>69036528
He's planning on increasing taxes on everyone, not rearranging the budget. All of his proposals have added taxes on them.
Bernie knows how to throw more money at social programs but does not know how to fix problems. He knows how to force employers to pay wages they can't keep up with but he doesn't know how to equip Americans with good skills so they don't have to sit around and flip burgers after going through 12 years of public school. To be flipping burgers at 30 is an embarrassment and you should be publicly mocked and shamed.
Bernie is literally the antithesis of global competition and encourages stagnation in the name of "fairness." Fuck this kike.
>>69036528
>your taxdollars
>people who don't pay taxes because they don't have jobs and already get everything for free
Who are these mysterious billionaires that are taking everything? What exactly is his plan to get the money?
"I'll tax it lol"
Say hello to a bunch of new billionaires Cayman Islands. These people are about to denounce citizenship
>>69038852
>good at math until he hit algebra
No.
You're not good at math if you can only do simple arithmetic.
Algebra only seems like a stumbling block because educational standards have degenerated over the decades.
If you can't get a student to understand algebra in practical terms, then you have failed as a teacher and the educational system has failed to train their teachers.
An algebra problem in simple terms: "a container has 1 quart of water in it. The container can hold 4 quarts. How many more quarts does it take to fill the container?" That's algebra in terms an idiot can understand. 1 + x = 4
>>69038852
>math is all about memorizing algorithms and dealing only with concrete numbers
If that retard can't count he doesn't deserve to graduate high school
Funny how Bernie is the "muh free stuff" meme when Trump Chumps are always going on and on about "muh free wall." Many people on this board are complete idiots.
>>69037199
Shhh youre just supposed to observe
>>69037060
>My taxes will go up $18,000 if bernie wins and I work as an electrician and am married with two kids.
Bernie only appeals to people who are poor (people like me).
It'll make our lives easier, but way more difficult for middle class Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZXNuqje_es
>>69036528
Would die of old age before he could take office.
/thread
>>69037060
>My taxes will go up $18,000 if bernie wins
lulz
>>69036528
I dont like what you're spending your hard earned money on, so I'm going to raise taxes and spend it for you.
>>69036528
>WASTING billions on wallstreet bailouts
one week without wall street bailouts and americas economy will be North Korea tier.
Bernie doesn't understand wall street or american economy of the 21st century, this balding cuck literally thinks america is still the industrial power house of the past with factories full of workers awaiting liberation lmao
If all of our tax money is going into bailing out corporations, why are we taxing ourselves in the first place?
>>69036528
>valuable public services
>>69040797
funny how Trump always mentions someone else will pay for his wall, while bernout promises free shit
>>69040018
This was true in my case.
I was a pretty good student but failed high school algebra twice because my teachers were shit. Finally I had to take it as a correspondence course and my dad took it upon himself to teach me, which was uncomfortable, but after that I actually learned to love the subject.
I'm shit at it again now though since I haven't actually used it in like 10 years. Sad.
>>69040797
>getting someone else to pay for something = free
bernie bros are actually retarded
>>69036528
>Bernfag noises.
>>69037060
>having kids
>the current year
>>69041744
Shouldn't your goal be to expand and grow? He's making it harder for you to achieve more in life. Stop fucking settling for pennies.
>>69036528
if hes so much better then the last guy at spending my money why does he need more then they did?
>>69036528
Jeeze left wingers are shit at making memes. No one wants to read an essay on a meme, takes away the funny.
>>69040797
The cost of the wall is nothing compared to Bernie's plans. Every single working person will pay more tax under Bernie
>>69036528
GIVE ME YOUR SHEKELS! I'LL USE THEM FOR "PUBLIC SERVICES" GOYIM. YES, PUBLIC SERVICES.
>>69043162
That is good to hear that you learned to love algebra by your dad.
>>69043117
Fuck off, Lyin' Ted.
economists btfo
>>69036528
Under sanders anyone who has a job is considered rich. Also taxing corporations will trickle down.
He literally just wants to give niggers money
we bail wallstreet billionaires out because without them we wouldn't have money to bail them out with
give a million dollars to a random nigger and it will be spent in a month
give a million dollars to someone like Donald Trump and he builds an empire
>>69038942
Trump has an indepth tax plan to address offshoring. Trumps tax plan is literally the best ive seen. Very indepth breakdown.
>>69044979
Everyone who has attacked his taxplan just points at it and goes "LOOK! HUGE DEFICIT! WE'LL GO BANKRUPT!" without looking at how he plans on recouping the deficits.
higher tax rates do not always result in higher taxes
>>69036528
reddit is not allowed
What are you guys talking about? Bernie is on a fine line between populism and economic literacy.
>>69044820
Actually Donald needed to be gifted an empire, then $200 million, then two loans from his siblings estates before he could 'succeed' (not incl. 4 x bankruptcies).
#truthbomb #sorrynotsorry
>>69045503
>makes no sense
what is collateral
>fail to pay car loan
>take back the car
>fail to pay student loan
>???
>>69045639
A government body could easily insure those loans.
>>69045639
Work Camps.
>>69037060
>My taxes will go up $18,000 if bernie wins
Literally just spent 15 minutes trying to find a reputable source for this and failed. That says something pretty stark about either you or me.
>>69045587
Thanks for the bait.
http://www.uscourts.gov/services-forms/bankruptcy/bankruptcy-basics/chapter-11-bankruptcy-basics
He made the empire with 1 million. He grew it with the remaining 199m.
Also, what the hell are you doing outside of le reddit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-8spGrLrUM
Daily reminder that if this geriatric fuck got his way by bleeding every single billionaire dry, destroying the middle class, and eviscerating any kind of prospect for small businesses he still wouldn't be able to eliminate the national debt and create his wet dream of a socialist utopia.
>>69043117
The Federal Reserve literally creates money out of thin air. This is a valid question.
>>69046009
Why are you still spreading the $1m meme?
$1m as a loan at a random point in his career, he graduated college and was handed control of the Trump Organization (previously known as Elizabeth Trump & Son) from his father.
I don't know how many college graduates you know, but very few I know are immediately handed control of a multi-million dollar business.
But yes, continue with the meme that he came from the bottom with just a 'small' $1 million loan.
>>69036528
Margret Tacher
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Bernie, eternally BTFO
>>69046036
Well, if some right-wing vlogger says its all bunkum, I'm sure we can trust him to not be lying to us.
>quoting pjmedia and uncle tom sowell in one post
Epin shitpost m80.
>>69038852
>i wuz good at math until i hit 6th grade
congratulations you can punch numbers in a calculator like any monkey could be taught to do
>>69046293
Rekt
Reminder that Bernie Sanders is an actual socialist, demanded to be called such when elected mayor, and a founding member of the democrat socialists of america which was splintered off of the american socialists group of which bernie was a member.
Don't buy his 'social democrat' bullshit lies, he's a fucking commie. He had his honeymoon in the god damn USSR
>>69046293
That quote always makes me laugh. It's like she doesn't know what rudimentary descriptions of socialism even are.
>>69046232
why are you on /pol/ if youve never even read art of the deal?
>>69036528
>suggesting
>taxes are a "suggestion"
>>69037353
>democratic faggot
that's pretty redundant, just say one and the other is implied
>>69046742
>reeeeeeee
>stop disagreeing with me!!!!!
Please, stop embarrassing yourself. I'm not going to take somebody seriously when they think a foreign policy idea is threatening Saudi Arabia that they'll stop buying any oil unless the Saudis fight ISIL.
Kek.
#loosecannon #stumped
I have said from the beginning and I maintain that Trump is a Russian plant.
>>69038852
fuck that college is right next to my school
>>69036528
Is the Greece affair so quickly forgotten that people are already lookling to make it happen here as soon as possible?
>>69046293
you forget the capitalist ran outta other ppls money in 2008 and in the 30s?
>>69046958
Shit Poster!
Cease your faggotry, conform
to the institutions of Logic and Reason!
>>69047583
They didn't though. The Federal Reserve created the money needed.
Canada can't into US Central Banking.
>>69045587
You still think 'facts' can hurt Trump
Your hate only makes The Donald stronger
>>69043575
you will never get an answer for this
>>69046002
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
>>69048255
>http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
>scroll down
>Bernie Sanders: His plan would raise federal revenues by an estimated $15.3 trillion over the next decade. He would raise taxes for almost all households, but most increases would be for wealthier households; tax increases would be small for lower- and middle-income households. Additional revenues would pay for health care, education, and other programs, so households would pay less than what they currently pay for those services.
Doesn't that seem to be exactly what I was getting at?
>>69048586
>households would pay less than what they currently pay for those services
Hopefully people don't fall for this bullshit again.
>>69048756
Hopefully people don't fall for bullshit Reagan voodoo economics again and think that cutting taxes will result in magic growth of the economy.
Bush showed it didn't work, it literally just bought in less revenue causing the government to borrow more.
Reagan did the same. Y'all conservatives need some other moves than just trying to cut taxes all the time.
>>69048756
I'd argue with you about why they are all perfectly valid and indeed not bullshit, but I really don't have the energy or time. I'm going
In this thread:
Corporate shills trying to divide up the middle and working classes through racism (e.g. lazy blacks/Mexicans) to distract Americans from the real enemy: some rich and greedy bastards on Wall Street and in the top 1%
Class warfare? the rich of the US have squeezing the middle class since Reagan
>>69036528
Yeah they are the only ones getting free stuff. Not the $114 billion a year we spend on illegal immigrants. And in no way would that number gof over $200 billion with Sanders. No way at all.
>>69036528
>Yeah, we can't all be rich. Let's be equally as poor guise!
Come on, that's leaf tier propaganda. And what's with all these shill threads?
>>69040018
if thats algebra for you i think we should broaden the term 'american education' to 'north american education'
>>69036528
>wasting more on social programs that above and beyond soak up the most tax dollars
>healthcare plan increases the debt by 14 trillion by itself when we could not add it to the debt AND PAY LESS FOR IT if government would stop fucking with healthcare
>worth my tax dollars
>>69036528
Sanders is suggesting the higher class should run away to come here.
Blease elect him :DDDD
>>69036528
Bernie is an idiot. The US needs to cut spending fast or else it will run out of money. Just taxing more isn't enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZP9p-YmPpA
>>69048941
>>69049004
REEEEEEEEEEE RAYGUN
Calm down Straya. Neither of you even attempt a valid argument here.
I can argue the premium I pay on insurance each month now. Since Obamacare was "deemed as passed" I am paying 3X what I was prior for health insurance. I am certainly not getting 3X the benefit of it.
>>69049276
>if thats algebra for you [...]
It isn't. It's just a starting point for american students.
>>69049675
> Michael Tanner
>cato institute
>Koch-founded and funded
I don’t care what the Koch brothers think, m80, they should stop being cowards and just present their views as their own instead of funding thousands of puppet groups to do their bidding.
>>69049825
No, you're not, sorry but you just made that up.
>>69036528
>billionaires got free shit
>ignore all the services they have provided like spaceX, paypal, ebay, amazon, etc.
fuck off kike.
>>69049675
MMT will save us all. Deficits are null and void.
>>69050106
m8, I don't think you understand that all of those 'services' are in fact for-profit..
They're not doing it out of some philanthropic goodness of heart, pham, so they deserve no kudos.
This is a typical Bernie voter. Rainbow shirt, gayface/neoteny, and daddy issues.
>>69049080
I don't have to live next to the 1%
billionaires
I do have to live next to lazy Mexicans and violent nigs
>>69036528
Thread eternally saged
OP eternally reported
>>69036528
Easy there Robbin hood
>>69037060
>I work as an electrician and am married with two kids
>>69037696
What if he included a Public Works Program to spur job growth so that the 30 year olds weren't flipping burgers to survive? They could be cleaning parks or fixing roads or other shit.
>>69037060
I've literally seen this post 50 times in the last week
So either
1. Your a copy paste shill (most likely)
Or
2. There's alot of electricians with 2 kids complaining on pol everyday instead of working
>>69050803
>replace 1 menial job with another
m8, you sure sound Keynesian
>>69050803
But then who would be the fodder for wars?
>>69036528
Based Bernie, I like him, but America is not ready yet.
>>69036528
>valuable public services
Nice buzzword, I'd rather MAGA and keep 90% of my money.
>>69051086
America will never be ready.
Your revolution will never happen, pinko scum.
>>69038852
> he was good at math until he hit algebra
Holy kek, algebra is literally basic math
>>69051086
If welfare made you take a mandatory drug test to receive benefits this country would fall apart Tomorrow.
Prove me wrong
>>69050168
you mean neocharlatanism?
>valuable public services
>>69047583
Of course, the leaf believes recessions are caused by capitalists.
Do you just believe everything your government-approved history textbook says, anon?
>>69050590
How do you quantify laziness? Do you have any actual evidence that blacks and Mexicans are "lazier"? Or is just your confirmation bias and racism at work?
>>69036528
I still don't understand how paying off student loans, slowly but eventually, is worse than paying for college for everyone for the rest of your life. Sure the higher taxes don't affect the low class, but if you're getting a college education, you should be working your way up to a middle class salary after graduation. Seems like only liberal arts majors benefit.
>>69051490
they call recessions the business cycle it happens about every 20-30 years
you think we've recovered from 2008?
on the one hand we are told every man for them selves, on the other..
>>69048586
>Not realizing thats 15.3 trillion of your dolleridoos
>Not wanting to bailout wallstreet
>Asking for a bailout from the American people
What happened to the last 15.3 trillion the government went through?
You're suggesting a massive tax hike, permanently incorporating temporary bailout spending into the budget, ending subsidies that keep jobs in America, AND oil wars.
And god forbid you let the banks fail when your policies lead to another crash, who do you think actually loses their money when that happens?
>>69044820
FAGGOTRY
>>69044820
I cross my legs like that when I'm alone because my leg falls asleep doing it the normal way.
Never in public, though.
I'll just leave this here
>>69051352
Considering how the Fed just prints money and makes the shit appear from out of nowhere, I fail to see how MMT could go wrong.
BERNIE'S AMERICA
BURN IT ALL DOWN
>>69052961
People, and lots of them, tried claiming the nigger was carrying the purse and it was the women trying to steal it from him.
I wish I was joking.
>>69053032
Why does this refuse to die? For fuck's sake, are politicians saying that people are breaking the law and on top of that, there have been NO convictions due to the breaking of said law?
>>69037060
Don't worry your going to save a bunch of money not paying for health insurance and medical bills and saving up for your kids college
you'll actually be better off
>>69053254
obviously a single mother working at mcdonalds should be paid the same as a CEO
>>69051635
I live and work with and around them. They literally steal anything that isn't nailed down and ruin property value like it's a bodily function.
>current year
>thinking nigs are lazy is a meme
DUDE FREE LMAO
>hurrrrrr durrrrrr Ima use all that money and make school free!!!
Or you could just give me a cut of the savings.
free stuff
>>69045587
Nice shitpost mate
>>69053358
Blacks in my neighborhood constantly park in the handicap parking spots, it's disgusting. Then they yell and scream when the cops ticket them and the really sad part is the 2 handicapped people who need the spaces are also black. They have no respect for themselves or their own race.
>>69054071
you have people drinking fucking LEAD water in an American town and the Federal government is just giving free shit to corporations
>>69054071
>25. Google
Moot you sellout cuck
>>69053254
It refuses to die because it is a very effective lie.
>>69055263
what?
>>69055024
the federal government has nothing to do with municipal issues, you slimy limey.
>>69055024
The federal government isn't responsible for municipal water.
The nigs who live in Flint are too dumb to maintain their water system and now they're hyping up the situation for sympathy.
>>69053748
So many things wrong with your response. let's start.
1.Most people wouldn't equate theft with laziness.
2.Can you really fault certain minorities for *supposedly* bringing down property values?
3.Using your anecdotal experience to generalize an entire group of people?
4.You have no legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific studies that even remotely hint at African Americans or Mexican Americans are "lazy".
Also most criminals are white. You're hating on the wrong people, it's the greedy tycoons on Wall Street and the corrupt crooks in the US gov't (most of them Republicans but some Democrats are also to blame like Hillary Clinton).
We live in the 2nd Gilded Age, don't let the capitalist elite divide and conquer the American people!
>>69055024
Flint, Michigan is actually very close to a large supply of fresh water but why would they want to help nigs?
Probably studying the effects of lead on them like Tuskegee.
>>69053254
Illegal immigration is against the law but nobody is enforcing it
>>69037060
Here's the kicker!
You will be making more under Bernie. So much more the increase in taxes is okay.
>>69055516
You obviously don't live around poor ghetto blacks.
hi my name is bill
>>69055700
How? Will he deport all the beaners?
>>69036528
If this was all sanders stood for the hes my guy. BUT. He comes with all sorts of extra shitty baggage. He is a total cuck who kow tows to sjws and minorities and he is a communist.
>>69036528
>Giving billions to Banks who make bad decisions is bad!
>but giving billions to Collage Students who make bad decisions is good!
Taking my money at gunpoint to pay for millennials is just as bad as doing it for banks you senile shit.
>>69036528
According to Sanders, every penny of profit the federal government doesn't seize from private business is a subsidy.
The federal government should stop giving any business or individual money for anything other than services rendered under contract with the government. That does not mean they should seize more money.
>>69036528
> High taxes
> stop bailing out Wall Street
> you have to pick one or the other
The statement is a non-sequitur. That's why I hate Bernie's dishonesty and his follower's retardation. What does stopping the bailouts have to do with raising our taxes?
Trump is talking about stopping the bail outs, stopping the "oil wars" and lowering taxes. Sounds like a better option to me.
>>69050019
No, neither of you Australian shitposters have anything resembling a valid argument. I'm not making that up.
I used to have a modest insurance plan at about $30/month. Now I pay just under $100/month AFTER receiving my Obamacare subsidy. You can't make this shit up just like you can't fix stupid.
You're argument is literally "nuh uh, I don't believe you." (Which, BTW, isn't even an argument. It's just plain childishness)
>>69055541
they've been talking about this for a few years
>>69048941
It's not even a Reaganesque idea it's simple logic. The less regulations and less taxes a business pays the more likely they will pursue other economic ventures thus increasing the amount of jobs and the economy. It's not voodoo magic it's literally what every nation (even your Scandinavian friends) used to get rich.
>>69036528
bernie will tax me even more. he can fuck right off.
>>69036528
Giving the oligarchy free stuff will always be justified in jobless/pol/'s eyes, for the rich are Gods.
>>69043896
Maybe you should look that up. While you are at it, look up how the virtual wall/corporate welfare worked out for the US.
>>69036868
You should see a doctor. Your pee shouldn't do that.
>>69056637
I favor true capitalism as the rest of /pol/. That means lifting the regulations for everyone. Crony capitalism is when everyone but those powerful enough to influence government and tied down by regulations and taxes.
>>69055810
So?
Ah I see, you're now speaker-of-truth about African Americans and Mexicans as a whole because you happen to live around a few of them.
You still haven't told me anything that most people would consider signs of minority laziness.
>>69056401
surrounded by water
I think the want black ppl to move away so they can gentrify
They why the fuck are my taxes going up so damn much!?
>>69056461
Another corporate shill cuck detected
You can't use your "simple logic" on something as complex as the entire US economy. And besides, one could also use logic to support liberal's Keynesian ideals. The way to go is to look at the evidence. Western European economy has never been free market laissez-faire capitalist.
"SOCIALISM NEVER TOOK ROOT IN AMERICA,
BECAUSE THE POOR SEE THEMSELVES NOT AS AN EXPLOITED PROLETARIAT,
BUT AS TEMPORARILY EMBARRASSED MILLIONAIRES"
~Ronald Wright
>>69045723
The thing i hate about you berniefags is that you have prevalence to make yourself slaves and you get to vote to try to make us all live like that.
>>69037434
your tax money wouldn't pay for college, that money comes out of a trading tax, the only plan of sanders that taxes people directly is the medicare for all plan, the least likely to past. so no worrys my dude
>>69036908
But anon, corporations ARE people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
"THIS COUNTRY HAS SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH, RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM FOR THE POOR"
~MLK Jr.
>>69036528
>wall street
>bail outs
>subsidies
>oil wars
There should be a drinking game for every time he says a buzzworld
>crumbling infrastructure
>loopholes
>wan pershent
>>69037079
>>69037112
>>69037238
>>69040797
>>69043246
>>69043256
Bernie's opponents, repeat after me:
"I don't care that children are starving, I want to buy a bigger boat."
"I don't care that people are dieing from being uninsured, I want to buy a bigger boat"
>>69037060
Well how much are you paying right now for healthcare for you and your family and then college for your kids?
>>69056028
>Collage students
maybe you should have gone to college
>>69057992
Because in return you will no longer have to pay for healthcare for you or or family and won't have to pay for college for your children.
>>69058172
we weren't the ones fighting unions, high wages, job security. that was you guys
>>69036528
This is true, OP. If Sanders wins /pol/ is going to have to do a lot of soul searching.
>>69058662
natural selection
Gb2reddit
>>69036528
Gee, no shit it isn't free.
>>69058662
This
>>69058662
People are dying everywhere faggot, if you're out to save the world, start saving it yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
>>69059170
>>69059087
>hrr dur sanders is gonna ruin my dreams of having more cars than fingers.
>>69058662
Neither of us care that people are dying. None of Bernie's policies will help sub-saharan Africans or starving Chinese children. I'm just consistent in my not-caring.
>>69058662
Why the flying fuck would I care about some kid I have no relationship to at all?
>>69059394
Not mine. Im poor as fuark but I dont care because Sanders is an economic illiterate.
Nobody is dying because they dont have insurance. Look up EMTALA
>>69059659
>>69059561
repeat after me:
"I don't care that children are starving, I want to buy a bigger boat."
"I don't care that people are dieing from being uninsured, I want to buy a bigger boat"
>>69037060
So you make 150k a year?
>>69059877
>>69059877
I don't care that children are starving, I want to buy a bigger boat.
I don't care that people are dieing from being uninsured, I want to buy a bigger boat
Now it's your turn.
>>69058898
The government can hardly take care of what it already has to handle. You really think giving them MORE control over citizen money and lives is going to go over well?
If you really think healthcare in the hands of the government is going to be a godsend, go talk to the vets who are literally dying waiting to see doctors.
>>69059394
Since when is it anyone else's RESPONSIBILITY to take care of strangers? Fuck them. Fuck you. No one is entitled to anything that belongs to anyone else. your life suck? Go figure out how to fix it. You want to save the world? That's on your shoulders and no one else's. You can't strong arm someone else into YOUR agenda and go, I AM A HERO.
Kill yourself.
>>69058950
Your answer to everything is more government to take more control of things and that doesn't sound like a problem to you?
>>69060394
you have more government then you had 30 years ago, but all the new bits serves the rich while they cut services for everyone else
>>69036528
>going against kikes
Bernie is literally the next Hitler.
>>69061099
http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/subsidy-tracker
>>69055516
>2.Can you really fault certain minorities for *supposedly* bringing down property values?
Yes. Nobody wants to live next to niggers or spics. Not even other niggers/spics.
>>69057132
You're obviously a deluded bernfag. How do you feel when Bernie has been BTFO by Hillary in every state that has a large percentage of blacks and hispanics? Do you consider minorities voting for Hillary who we all know to be corrupt a sign of mental laziness?
>>69061330
So... Taxpayers assisting corporations is bad and evil. But taxpayers should support 113 million people?
>>69037112
>Implying that Patrick Henry was talking about Capitalism.
Find something better.
>>69059877
"I don't care that children are starving, I want free college
"I don't care that people are dieing from being uninsured, I want more immigrants.
>>69048941
>Hopefully people don't fall for bullshit Reagan voodoo economics again and think that cutting taxes will result in magic growth of the economy.
>Bush showed it didn't work, it literally just bought in less revenue causing the government to borrow more.
Tax cuts are a valid and effective form of stimulus. It's just that they should be targeted appropriately. Retardlicans cut taxes on the wealthiest who are unlikely to spend that extra income so it has a tiny multiplier and doesn't help the economy much.
Also it requires that the policymakers not try to "balance the budget" (which, unfortunately, they almost always try to) because that undermines the fiscal expansion via tax cuts.
Democrats are hardly better mind you. Same for Labour/Labor parties etc.
>>69058898
I already pay significantly less than that for insurance. Only $7.50 a month from my state job. It would cover a spouse and children if I had them. And I don't plan on having any kids anyways, so why should I have to pay for anyone else's?
>>69062162
it's the people that speak for those corporations that are always going on about everyman for themselves and personal responsibility and they turn out to be the biggest welfare queens
>>69036528
LOL, no this is trumps election promise. bernie just wants to make everyone poor.
>>69056461
>The less regulations and less taxes a business pays the more likely they will pursue other economic ventures thus increasing the amount of jobs and the economy.
My country has the lowest corporate taxes in the G7, which were still cut even right after the financial crisis nine years ago, yet businesses are sitting on over $600 billion which they're not reinvesting into the country. Most of our recovery has been fueled by consumer spending because of this.
I'd say it's much more complicated than simply reducing taxes and regulations. Other factors must be at play.
>>69036528
Hmmmm what if we don't give money to anyone? And everyone gets to keep the money they earn? and no one has free stuff?
corporations have been promising jobs and economic growth for 30 years, if only they could have tax cuts/breaks
I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER I'M WITH HER
>Because $hillary is high energy?
>>69061380
Explain. How is it their fault?
>>69061983
I'm hoping that doesn't happen. I'm guessing current minority support for Hillary is due to ignorance, but hey many Americans are ignorant about politics. Ignorance is no crime.
I really do hope Bernie wins, we need to smash the American oligarchy
>>69037060
That is incorrect, Bernie's definition of the 1% is pretty spot on (unlike Obama's definition of rich which was really upper middle class). That is why I support Sanders, the 1% needs a raise in taxes. As if it would affect their personal lives anyway.
I could pull up a chart and show you Sanders' tax brackets but it's almost bed time and I am too tired.
>>69062778
On the other hand, we were the only country in the g7 that was not significantly effected by the recession.
>>69047868
who is that girl?
trump gets free stuff
>>69056893
Herpie Sanders
>>69062273
LMAO BTFO
>>69036528
the btfo meme is eternally btfo
>>69062524
>And I don't plan on having any kids anyways, so why should I have to pay for anyone else's?
Man up.
attn berniefags or anyone that cares
what is the chances of bernie winning any of these states? is he going to get cucked in NY?
im guessing some of the east coast states are harder to pick for the democratic primaries
>>69063355
>Explain. How is it their fault?
Trash everywhere. Loud music at all hours. Lots of crime. 20 people living in one small house. Drug dealers on the corner. Abandoned blighted properties being turned into crack houses. Break ins and theft from homes and vehicles is common. Do you want to live around that? I don't.
>>69063355
>I really do hope Bernie wins, we need to smash the American oligarchy
Haha I knew you were a bern victim. Too bad Hillary will be the democratic nominee because minorities in general aren't interested in voting for Bernie.
>>69036528
pretty sad for an image macro to be tl;dr
>>69036528
>billionaires getting the free stuff
you mean they're paying back their loans? Bailout wasn't "free shit" they were loans
>>69063384
Don't worry. Here's his scenario. Pic related.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
>>69054071
Any company that decides to make a big investment in research or infra structure can count on subsidy.
It encourages job growth.
That is why.
>>69046293
Just like the banks in 2008?
>>69063706
seconding, she has a nice back.
>>69064156
why didn't they pay down the debt when they got the money back? where did the money go?
>>69063841
>You will never earn 120k a year building machines to scare monkeys for SCIENCE! purposes.
Why do I even bother getting up anymore?
>>69036528
>>69037060
>>69041744
>>69046002
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016
Even if you're poor Bernie's tax plan will likely raise your taxes a shit ton.
>>69064211
pretty soon you'll need a second job so you can buy the first one
Or he could simply keep his Jew hands off my money all while not giving out bailouts and starting oil wars.
>>69051812
Because it's cheaper. Way cheaper. And everyone profits from a educated populace
>>69064950
Utopia will come when every retard has a PhD in Womynz Studies and Nog History.
>>69058662
I guarentee that those starving and uninsured people give no fucks about me, why do you expect me to give a fuck about them?
>>69064950
t. Alberto Barbossa
Tomar no cu, viu...
>>69058662
Repeat after me.
"I do not care that 100+ yrs of Muh Socialism is a fact. I want my free shit!"
Kill yourself.
>>69059394
>Tripfag
>Stoner
>Bernie supporter
Well what a fucking surprise.
>>69063706
found it:
Stefania Ferrario
>>69065174
>>69065266
>Meme must go on!!!!!!!
>>69064528
>Put that I make no money
>Somehow I would get taxed $170 more under Bernie
What?
>>69065456
nice find, my canadian brother
>>69065456
Thanks bro
>no porn
>>69064156
Holy shit are you truly that retarded? Giving free education is also a loan. The kid gets an education, gets a better paying job, pays more taxes on the income from that better paying job. The government makes the money they spent educating the fucker through taxes. Is it really that fucking hard to grasp? It isn't "free" education. It is subsidized education. The benefit of giving an education to a nigger is paid back by the fact that he would be able to make more money, which we will be able to tax, and reduce crime rates because educated people who make more money are less likely to commit crime, because they don't need to.
Got it dipshit? Or are you a cucked faggot who just likes to see big corporations literally get tax break and subsidy from your own tax dollars?
TRUMP 2016 faggot, make america cucked again. Because poor faggots love jerking off the to idea of being able to live the "american dream" which as it fucking says in its name, is just a dream.
>>69058662
Bernie's supporters, repeat after me:
>"I don't care that children are starving, I want free college
>"I don't care that hospitals are having to close because uninsured illegals go to the emergency room every time one of their anchor babies has a cold, I want them to have free health care paid for by tax increases on American citizens."
>>69058662
who the fuck cares about them?? welfare breeds laziness and incompetency. You think you're helping, but in fact you're enabling weakness. The same way that giving aid to africa doesnt help them, since they only will have more children off your aid and the whole cycle starts all over again.
Mr hypocrite, why arent you selling your computer and your house to help them? why arent you giving your paycheck to the homeless?
>>69036528
>man with a networth of 500k at the age 60
>wants to give us advice on finances
nice try bern-cuck
>>69064950
>>69065493
fuck why are leftypol suck gullible retards, they will believe anything eternal Jew tells them to believe
>>69065654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
>>69043124
Bernie has said from the beginning that wall street executives will start paying their fair share of taxes. What more do you want?
>>69065654
EVISCERATED BY A FUCKING LEAF
you Canadians aren't all bad
>>69060215
>not wanting a society that works together
>not helping your fellow man to achieve greatness
It's like you are a nigger who only looks out for himself.
>>69036528
>valuable public services
Absolutely hilarious.
Thanks for the chuckle anon
>>69036528
Bernie btfo by reality
>>69061099
>10 of those are one business
A typical image macro debater.
>>69065995
If you believe that disgusting kike has only 500k, you're fucking retarded.
He and his family have been caught multiple times hiding money in FAKE Holohoax charities, his wife got caught hiding his money there too... Not to mention the ones WE DIDN'T CATCH.
>>69066143
you're welcome to move to the ghetto, quit acting so noble. People who dont help themselves deserve no help.
>>69065654
Based Leaf
Doing God's work, my friend
>>69065654
then why are all the kids doing liberal arts majors. they don't make more money, they actually make less than non-college workers
>>69065654
>Holy shit are you truly that retarded? Giving free education is also a loan. The kid gets an education, gets a better paying job, pays more taxes on the income from that better paying job. The government makes the money they spent educating the fucker through taxes. Is it really that fucking hard to grasp? It isn't "free" education. It is subsidized education. The benefit of giving an education to a nigger is paid back by the fact that he would be able to make more money, which we will be able to tax, and reduce crime rates because educated people who make more money are less likely to commit crime, because they don't need to.
Tell that to all the womyn's studies majors working as Starbucks baristas you dumb fucking leaf. A college education does not necessarily equal a higher paying job!
>>69065654
They will meme out of this post, or will suck corporate overlord cock even harder
>>69065894
>welfare breeds laziness and incompetency.
Source?
>You think you're helping, but in fact you're enabling weakness
You think this is sparta or some shit? Get out of your basement or grow up kiddo
>The same way that giving aid to africa doesnt help them
Because the aid stays in government hands. Only a small fraction actually reaches the populace. But stopping someone from starving usually helps him.
>will have more children off
wat?
>>69064069
Nobody wants to live and work around that. That's why property value around black neighborhoods is non existent because nobody in their right mind wants to live in a violent trash filled ghetto.
>>69041688
Kek
>>69058220
>a trading tax
What brilliance that horseshit is.
Why doesn't he just string day traders up, if he's going to fuck them out of a job anyway?
>>69065995
He hid his money you fucking retard. It's hard to campaign for the poor while you are a millionaire.
Sometimes /pol/ political hindsight is on par with that of my dog. And my dog is fucking dumb.
>>69066011
>the eternal jew
sure mate. You are too far gone now. I hope you have a fulfilling life outside of 4chan.
>>69036528
then stop stealing my money
>>69036528
It he wanted to rework my existing tax dollars, sure
But he want to tax me $600 more a month for FREE COLLEGE (people with college degrees can't find jobs as it is) and FREE HEALTHCARE (with America's stupidly high healthcare costs. Also I'd be forced to pay for trans surgeries, no thanks).
Fuck Bernie.
How about we:
- End political corruption (yes it is possible, eliminate jerrymandering and the electoral college)
- End the stupid wars and high military spending / military industrial compelx
- Break up the banks
- MAKE IT SO PEOPLE CAN LIVE ON WAGES WITHOUT COLLEGE DEGREES AGAIN
- REGULATE HEALTHCARE TO LOWER COSTS (don't let companies change $500 for something it too $1 to make)
Fuck
Bernie
He's not going to fix any problems and is just giving away free shit
>>69066336
>welfare country talking shit about helping others
Fuck off singapore, even Australia pities you.
>>69066416
Only a smal percentage actually follow arts, maybe as low as 15% in America (one of the highest percentage of art students in the world)
>>69066458
Don't subsidize women studies then faggot. My point was that public services are not all bad. Not that we should have an absolute socialistic system where we fund niggers for their drug supplies. What prevents you from subsidizing specific college programs? Any science related fields should be heavily subsidized, non-science fields should be slightly subsidized and womyn studies should not only be non-subsidized, but also be forced to pay extra to pay for the subsidized programs. This should be enough to stop faggots with no future from leeching off of the system.
>>69037060
Funny, you conservacucks never bitch when your "hard earned tax dollars" go to the rich. Only the poor. And yet the rich are by far the largest welfare whores.
>>69064206
>dat single black mom
>dat white wife and black husband
>those black kids
fucking shit man
>>69066477
they'll just grow accustomed to your aid you fucking dumbass. Let the man fish on his own or let him starve. You dont fucking give him a fish every day so he can have more children to beg fish off from you instead of standing on his own feet. People like you cant even think, you should come here to fucking based asia where nobody owes anyone anything
>>69036528
>Raising my taxes to give people that make less more free shit.
uhhh
>>69059877
I don't care that children are starving or people are dying, it's not my responsibility to care for them. Let me spend my own money.
Kill yourself commie.
>>69066767
>muh taxation is theft
>>69066783
>with America's stupidly high healthcare costs.
Because it's made FOR PROFIT.
> End political corruption (yes it is possible, eliminate jerrymandering and the electoral college)
>- End the stupid wars and high military spending / military industrial compelx
>- Break up the banks
>- MAKE IT SO PEOPLE CAN LIVE ON WAGES WITHOUT COLLEGE DEGREES AGAIN
>- REGULATE HEALTHCARE TO LOWER COSTS (don't let companies change $500 for something it too $1 to make)
This is actually sensible. But the best way of actually regulate healthcare to lower costs is to nationalize healthcare.
>>69066989
Bernie only promises to give free college for majors that will be eligible for jobs and only so many as to not over-saturate the market.
>>69065583
You have to pay your fair share goy. Did you think your free healthcare was actually free?
>>69067266
>I don't care that children are starving or people are dying, it's not my responsibility to care for them.
>>69045587
Yeah we know his dad didnt work for it either he got that white privilege check when he hit 18. If you don't want your children to have it better than you than you are a fucking waste of a parent
>>69036528
voting for that old jew, Trump has fucking planes why would I vote for a dude who never earned money until he was 40, his net worth is what? 400k owning his only home in vermont which he lived for 74 years ? TOP KEK only muslims and mexicans and people that never worked like Bernie
>>69066989
>What prevents you from subsidizing specific college programs?
Because that isn't Bernie's platform at all, faggot. He wants to subsidize ALL public colleges including SJW bullshit like women's studies and the classes on 50 shades of gray and lady gaga that Melissa Click used to teach at Mizzou.
>Any science related fields should be heavily subsidized, non-science fields should be slightly subsidized and womyn studies should not only be non-subsidized, but also be forced to pay extra to pay for the subsidized programs. This should be enough to stop faggots with no future from leeching off of the system.
That still doesn't solve the problem, even if we are getting more technical workers by subsidizing their science related education they will still end up unemployed if companies can hire foreign H1b's to do their job for cheaper. That's why we need Trump.
>>69036528
Nice B8
I would be interested in Sanders' tuition free college plan if it was only for STEM majors (those who minor or double-major in something else are included as well). The issue now is pretty straightforward: There is power-creep in the economy. High-school was once the golden standard of basic employability. Now it's an undergraduate degree. Soon it will be a full year internship/graduate school.
The core of this issue is that, with a growing population and growing awareness of what the next new needed-degree is, the number of equally competent candidates increases. Thus, the employer has to discriminate in some way to pick someone out without being completely random. So they look for internship experience or a graduate degree.
Now, all this is already an issue but theoretically increased funding to entrepreneurial ventures could vent some pressure of this labor glut. That would be the case if most of these individuals had something that could (within the traditional confines of what's made into a business) some technical skill or product commercialize.
HOWEVER, consider what this new power-creep of base-employability has done: it has introduced into these venues all sorts of people who, outside of the need to be employed, would never consider it. They do it now only to survive as they understand 'you need a highschool -> college -> masters degree to get a job these day.'
>>69067338
source?
>>69067599Will these new people, who would normally not consider excess education, go into more difficult but useful fields like STEM or Business/economics? No, they will go into easier, less-technically stressful fields like the humanities, some social-sciences or the arts. The meme of 'college is needed' was only partially transmitted and thus partially received (alternatively, the situation has actually changed so drastically since that notion entered the mainstream that the labor-glut did not even exist before in those fields).
Even among students who pay for college, nearly 2/3 to 3/4 majors are in non-STEM or Business/Economics. This ratio is considerably more skewed compared to when this 'college is needed' meme was created, back in the 80s I'd say.
Free-College for any degree will, I wager, exaggerate this ratio even more and lead to a general waste of tax-payer money as these individuals' fields will already be so glutted that their college degree helps their employability almost not at all
>>69066477
Alot of people in America on welfare, white and black, could work but choose not to.
If you had to take a drug test to receive your welfare check and food stamps the whole system would collapse. The inner cities would turn into a literal warzone wastelands in a few months.
Why work hard for minimum wage when you can do nothing? Believe it or not but some people are fine with not bettering themselves and sponging off taxpayers.
>>69067197
>dat simplistic view
Don't reply to me anymore. You are probably a self-loathing poor/middle class or a spoiled rich brat. Either way you will grow out of it.
And no i will not explain in what way you are wrong. It's pointless
>pro tip: I once tought exactly like you
>>69067331
>Because it's made FOR PROFIT.
So the existing government programs that aren't for profit yet hemorrhage money do so because... ?
While you're right that there's a theory that costs could lower because its not for profit all the government would do would be to buy the same items from these same companies with tax money. Prices wouldn't be lowered, only increased because now the government has its own employees to pay. Prices would go up except now EVERYONE has to pay for it (not just unhealthy people) via taxes.
>Trusting the government to be efficient with money
>>69048586
>parents would have to pay an EXTRA $31,000 in taxes a year if Sanders was pres
>>69067493
why should he care? is he a charity? why are you shitposting here on a hentai website instead of helping the people you supposedly care for so much?
But Mr Sanders you voted for those bailouts in 2008 and the renewal in 2012. Why the change of heart when they stop donating?
He voted in favor of the wall street bailout
>>69067660
>cant handle brutal real life
>dont talk to me anymore!! waaaah
stop being such a victim, this is a capitalist world. If you are broke and make zero attempt to extricate yourself its your own fucking fault you are broke.
Are you seriously going to vote for a kike?
>>69067626
Because your minimum wage barely takes a man out of poverty line (and if it his a family of 2 or more...). It happens the same in my country. A shitty apartment in my country capital costs more then our national minimum wage.
>If you had to take a drug tes
This is something i could actually get behind, if done sensibly and with care
>Why work hard for minimum wage when you can do nothing?
A welfare system in wich a person that can work keeps receiving benefits is not a good welfare system
>So the existing government programs that aren't for profit yet hemorrhage money do so because
Like what?
>While you're right that there's a theory that costs could lower because its not for profit all the government would do would be to buy the same items from these same companies with tax money. Prices wouldn't be lowered, only increased because now the government has its own employees to pay. Prices would go up except now EVERYONE has to pay for it (not just unhealthy people) via taxes.
How do you explain that America pays a absurd amount per capita in healthcare and still obtains inferior results vs countries like UK and France?
>Trusting the government to be efficient with money
They are. Governemt tax dollars gave us the computer, internet...
>>69066458
A college education does equal a higher paying job you idiot.
>starbucks baristas make more than lawyers
>degrees doesnt equal higher pay
fuck off you redneck, leafs are classy af compared to your degenerate fat piece of shit
>>69068112
Don't worry kid. You will grow out of it. Keep strong and study hard bro! ;)
>>69068215
They put a nigger already. They can't fall lower anymore
>>69067761
Get back to receiving your aussie welfare you stupid transexual
>>69066789
>>69067620
I can't find it, but it's definitely only for those that work hard in high school. I'll keep looking though as I am 98% sure it's only for specific majors.
>>69068300
>Like what?
Anything dealing with the military, eg the F22.
Also our existing benefits / welfare. Social Security is literally a ponzi scheme.
>>69068356
a degree doesnt guarantee anything, dumb shit. Do you think this is the 1950s?
a degree gives you better chances but theres no promise of anything
>>69058662
your right we dont have "free" breakfast and lunch programs at school and food stamps and charities giving food to these poor innocent souls. Man I wish there were people starving in the streets so maybe they do a little self reflection and choose a different path for there kids.
>>69068300
>How do you explain that America pays a absurd amount per capita in healthcare and still obtains inferior results vs countries like UK and France?
Asshole health care companies. But our government wouldn't be any better; as I said we'd probably still just pay these same companies as contractors.
>They are. Governemt tax dollars gave us the computer, internet...
No, private research institutions did.
Also
>Portugal talking about places he doesn't live in
You learn it all from our movies?
>>69067568
The only reason why companies can go and hire retards from china is because of the unregulated markets you currently have. If you start to take control of the country instead of being a Free for all fuckfest, you wouldn't have that problem. The retarded logic that a GOVERNment shouldn't GOVERN is what caused all this shit in the first place. You want a free market, well a free market will try to make a profit, it doesn't give a shit about jobs or people as the brainwashed faggots think. They will sell out at every opportunity to make a profit, without any care about the workers. If you want to fix this, you have to start by preventing those fuckers from buying your politicans, and starting to come up with regulation which will prevent those companies from doing those kind of things. So far with all the imperfections that bernie has, he's the only one out there who tries to fix some aspects of what makes the united states society so bad. You think nationalizing health care is bad? Go look at your drug and health care prices and rates. You literally pay in some cases as much as 5 times more for the same procedures and medication as the other nations. This is due to the so called "free market" which made the health care system a FOR PROFIT system instead of what it is intended to do (hint: keep the population healthy). I'll say this for the last time. Stop thinking that the government shouldn't govern and stop thinking that you can run a fucking country as a small business company. A country should put it's people first, not businesses.
>>69037112
>healthcare
we pay for healthcare either way. The difference is, under single-payer we, as a society, pay like half of what we're paying now. It's far more efficient to do it that way. As it is now, something as simple as an MRI costs like $1000. Prescription medications cost a fortune. If you have insurance, you're still paying for it, just through premiums instead of up-front.
>birth control
spend a few dollars on birth control and save a fortune from not having tons of unwanted children born into poverty. Crime rates would plummet, poverty would go down, everything about this is good.
>safe spaces
are fucking retarded, yeah. President Obama has publicly criticized that bit of leftism and warned against coddling students.
But the alternative to SJW/PC culture isn't outright bigotry and white supremacism like /pol/ seems to think.
>>69036528
even Bernie is better than this cuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M25iOpx7NkA
>>69066477
Here's some food for thought:
When everyone realizes that its easier to live off of welfare than it is to get a job who produces the food?
Who maintains the infrastructure?
Who defends the country from invasions and outside attacks?
Who protects the civilians from inside attacks?
Who educates in the FREE colleges?
>>69068300
I'm all for programs like welfare and food stamps but people abuse the shit outta it. Maybe I'm biased because I live and know people who are extremely lazy and abuse the system in my community, not only abuse it but are proud of it.
Mandatory drug tests sounds like s good idea in theory but believe me when I tell you that 80 - 90% of people in my community would fail and continue to fail the tests until they were homeless and starving, which leads to kids suffering, which sucks. I don't have or think I know all the answers, I'm just stating the situation in my area as I see it.
>>69058662
Bernie supporters repeat after me:
"I don't care that the working population is starving I want to buy the ghetto kids Beats by Dr. Dre(tm)"
>>69044820
>that pic
holy shit save some chromosomes for us
>>69068483
stay salty you fat fuck. Cry more about how the rich oppresses you. I'm sure absolutely none of it is your fault :^)
>>69068418
I probably make more than your lazy gwailo ass. You're the type of entitled westerner who wants like 40 hour workweeks plus a ton of benefits and dont understand why asia is overtaking in all fields right now.
>>69069682
>Singapore teaching an American CAPITALISM
>>69068899
>You think nationalizing health care is bad? Go look at your drug and health care prices and rates. You literally pay in some cases as much as 5 times more for the same procedures and medication as the other nations. This is due to the so called "free market" which made the health care system a FOR PROFIT system instead of what it is intended to do (hint: keep the population healthy). I'll say this for the last time. Stop thinking that the government shouldn't govern and stop thinking that you can run a fucking country as a small business company. A country should put it's people first, not businesses.
No, I don't think nationalizing health care is bad, that is one of Bernie's policies that I can agree with. But I don't think illegals should be able to take advantage of free health care which is being paid for by a tax raise on American citizens and I don't think free college is a good idea. Health care is a necessity, college is not.
>You want a free market, well a free market will try to make a profit, it doesn't give a shit about jobs or people as the brainwashed faggots think. They will sell out at every opportunity to make a profit, without any care about the workers.
I am not some ancap libertarian who thinks markets should be completely unregulated. They should be regulated to prevent them from doing things detrimental to the American people in their quest for profits. However I do agree with Milton Freidman that you can't have a welfare state and open borders, and Trump is the only candidate who is going to secure the border. Trump has also spoken in support of single payer health care in the past.
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