>JEFFREY GOLDBERG: I gleaned that he has no understanding of the post-war international order that was created by the United States, that he has no understanding of why we maintain alliances with such treaty partners as Japan and South Korea, Britain, NATO, and the importance of maintaining those stable relationships with other democracies, shows that he has no idea of nuclear doctrine. I mean, other than that, it was cool. It was really remarkable to imagine that someone who shows so little interest in understanding why the world is organized the way it is organized is this close to the presidency of the world's only superpower.
>>69019381
>Goldberg
>post-war international order
why aren't they even trying to hide it anymore?
>Goldberg
>>69019381
>Goldberg
>>69019381
What he doesn't realize is that Americans don't give a shit about other countries either
>>69019381
I like how he could have easily explained the reason why
but didn't
because thats what pseudo intellectuals do. talk around a problem like they know the intricacies but never truly explain themselves
>>69020086
Being too stupid to understand isn't an excuse
>>69019381
>>69019381
>Goldberg
>>69019381
I wonder who could be behind this.
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>>69019471
Because the term 'post-war international order' refers to the world order after the second world war, and the idealist institutions that were created subsequently, such as the United Nations, NATO, World Bank, etc
Only a retard would not know this
>Meanwhile Rato is busy slamming some hookers cooch
>>69020168
The reason why what? Why Trump doesn't know anything about foreign policy?
Maybe you should ask Trump that
>Goldberg
EFT
>>69019381
>Goldberg
>>69019381
>Goldberg
Sick of this shit
>Goldberg
>>69019381
>Goldberg
when is it ever not the jews?
>>69020729
no, britcuck, I want the accusing party to provide rationale for their statements.
But they wont, because they have none. Again, typical kike tactics to obfuscate the truth.
>>69020300
believe it or not it is when you have a system of democratic representation.
>Goldberg
ITT: people dismiss the opinions of a Jew only because he's a Jew since there's no other argument against what he's saying.
Trumpfags are so delusional.
>>69019381
Oy vey!
EVERY DAMN TIME
>>69021045
this, the jew is right
>>69019381
>goldberg
>>69020634
>Only a retard would not know this
Only a green neckbearded retarded anti-semitic edgy faggot would not know this
there FTFY
>goldberg
>>69021045
t. Shlomo Shekelbergstein
>goldberg
>((((((GOOOOLLLLLLDDDDDDBEEEEERRRRRGGGGG)))))))
Jeff MOUNTAIN OF SHKELIM
>>69021466
Patriotic/10
Israel approves
>>69019381
>post-war international order
Jesus fucking niggerchrist.
>>69020764
Its almost time to do something, isn't it.
>>69021045
memes aside, what argument is Jeff making? he's just listing his opinions which are basically ad hominems. He doesn't explain why Trump allegedly "doesn't understand" the geopolitical situation, instead he feigns some higher knowledge of world politics (which he doesn't enumerate) and claims that Trump is dispossessed of such knowledge. That's not an argument
>>69019381
>goldberg
>>69019381
Gee... if only there was some sort of obvious choice for VP who could bring decades of foreign policy and national security experience to a Trump ticket...
>>69021045
>>69019471
You say that as if the majority of our planet wouldn't happily embrace a one world government. In fact, the elite are not hiding at all, they're just slowly shifting things into place to make that happen.
>>69020893
Are you stupid or something? Trump goes on about dismantling NATO, leaving the TPP agreement, masterbating to trade protectionism and other retarded shit 24/7 on his Twitter
Maybe you should actually read the article, it's very damning for the likes of idiot radicals like sanders and Trump
>>69019381
>the post-war international order that was created by the United States
Bullshit
US didn't make any shit
>Goldberg
What if Trump does understand how/why things are organized the way they are... but doesn't care? I certainly don't.
>>69019381
good find OP
also
>goldberg
>tfw you know a Goldberg who's an exception to the rule
Feels good man
>>69021951
>what was the League of Nations
>what is the United Nations
>>69021931
>he has no understanding of why we maintain alliances with such treaty partners as Japan and South Korea, Britain, NATO
I read the article too. gold BERG did not explain himself. he did not explain WHY, just that he is "sure that trump doesn't know why, because otherwise why would he disagree!"
>>69019381
Instead of the cliche GOLDBERG response:
How much FP experience did Obama have, the one term junior senator?
Or Mr Arkansas, Bill Clinton?
How about Carter?
Hell, even GWB had zero FP experience, though thats not a great example. Foreign policy, while important, is overrated as a experiential metric for presidents. Even FDR was only a deputy secretary of the navy for a couple years, and he did OK in WW2. Truman was a haberdasher before the big job.
This jew is just grasping at straws. Trump has at least done business in foreign countries/dealth with foreign entities like banks (China etc) and governments (like Scotland for anon's who need to google something) among others.
>inb4 Clinton
Hilary Cunton fucked up on Iraq (Trump didn't) and Libya (Trump didn't). You see the trend. I don't care how many miles she flew on the taxpayer dime, she is BY FAR the worst foreign policy candidate. Kasich couldn't fuck up as bad as she did even if he tried.
>>69019381
>Goldberg
You know that's why you started this thread.
>>69021931
TPP is bad and trade protectionism is good though.
He also didn't say he would dismantle NATO, he said he would restructure it. NATO is a Cold War dinosaur, it needs to be updated
>>69019381
>no understanding of the post-war international order
Or maybe he resents the post-war international order like any sane person does. Trumo got my attention exactly because he doesn't want to continue the US' atrocious foreign policies.
>>69021045
>the goyim no longer take my garbage opinions seriously? oy shut it down!
>>69021045
I was just about to admit that your argument was right, too bad you're a Jew, better luck next time haha!
https://videos.files.wordpress.com/znZd8tg9/mitchell-and-todd-illuminate-trumps-ignorance_dvd.mp4
>So what do you think about...
>I am the counterpuncher. I am the best. They spend millions on me. By the way, you are good looking people. Okay, i'm out. *hides in Trump Tower for 7 days*
>>69020695
>Meanwhile Rato is busy slamming some tranny hooker's inverted penis
fixt
>>69022562
Bob and weave.
>>69019381
>goldberg
>this loudmouth kike again
>>69022162
UN is a fucking scarecrow in an open field, it's just here for show but does absolutely fucking nothing
>>69022183
It's not the evidence, more so the lack of evidence that's damning.
He has rarely commented on any foreign policy issue, even when all the other candidates have even gone so far to actually structure and clarify their envisionment of America's interaction with the world. Especially on hot topics such as the middle East. Whereas all Donald has done is just write small observations or presumptuous statements via Twitter, which in everyone's opinion really does not amount to much in terms of setting a precident.
All that he has said so far has been criticised for being really really stupid, like saying he wanted to leave NATO or leave the TPP agreement.
Even Sanders has some pragmatic foreign policy goals. And that's saying something
here's more of this fucking kike
>>69019381
>Goldberg
>>69019381
>goldberg
>>69022684
This. I think they told us we need to pay Nicaragua billions for the shady shit Reagan did or something. They have also called us out on a bunch of other shit.
Doesn't help that anyone who votes against the US recieves drastic cuts in aid we give.
The UN is a joke. Nobody cares.
>OMG Trump is so ignorant he doesn't want the US to pay for all the world's problems
it's true
"Trump can’t differentiate between Hamas, Hezbollah"
http://www.timesofisrael.com/does-trump-know-the-difference-between-hamas-hezbollah/
he's still my favorite candidate.
>>69023016
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
>>69022828
The problem is he has no pragmatic capacity to understand the effects of his own actions nor the actions at large.
This goes for most of the "policymaker" class. At least half of them should be fired. It's going to take some Genghis Kahn wagon wheel shit to get things back on track, and at least this way they're not going to be summarily executed.
>>69022629
Oh, you are right. He is not counterpuncher. He is bob-and-weaver.
>>69022253
>TPP is bad and trade protectionism is good though.
Rubbish, free trade is good. Protectionism is outdated, and needs to be done away with in all its forms.The only reason protectionism was used in the first place was for tax reasons, as government kept track of imports and exports better than they did that income to citizens, so it was more accurate to just tax imports. Now we have better and more acture data systems there is no need for protectionism
Try and cite me any reputable economists that deby the benefits of free trade. In fact is one of the rare issues that economists are unanimous on
>>69023164
Which is necessary for the counterpunch.
And if there is no punch to counter, or worth countering, then why bother with countering it?
>>69023171
Not an issue of protectionism or free trade. It's an issue of america getting screwed in these deals. Trump has never said he was against free trade.
>>69022817
Hey yellow toothed muslim, please see >>69022191
Keep ignoring posts that refute your conception of the workd. That's why the UK is a fucking punchline on the world stage.
>>69021045
Hello Shapiro...
>>69019381
oy vey!
>>69023283
I mean he bob-and-weaved the question and didn't counterpunched with an answer at all. Just avoided the topic. Shows his knowledge about policies.
>>69023171
you try to sound smart but you're really stupid
>>69023565
Pulling punches was the correct move. There is no need to counterpunch.
Counterpunch against what? There is no punch to counterpunch.
>>69022972
The UN is filled with some of the most vile lobbies and NGOs the mind could conjure
There are hundreds of Muslim and Arab lobbies literally in the back pockets of some of the staff of the UN. This is why Israel is always being blasted for every year gas canister that's fired, and the Saudis can run around indiscriminately machine gunning down Shia protestors in the middle of Riyad during mosque rush hour and no body gives a fuck
>>69020935
Isn't that why Bush won the elections without wining the popular vote?
>>69019381
Why do these Jews keep trying? They only make him stronger.
Gives me hope that they have used their entire playbook and are now fucked.
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>Goldberg
>>69023592
Nice argument
>>69023795
There's always the "lone gunman" left...
>>69023171
>Rubbish, free trade is good
Free trade as you envision it assumes a sense of fair play amongst all participants, which doesn't exist. There is no reason to engage in "free trade" with partners that actively want to sabotage your economy in order to bolster their own, without actually creating any wealth. Economists may support free trade on paper because it assumes that everyone is a rational actor working toward a common "good" (that being the general increase of domestic and global product) but realists understand that this doesn't actually happen. To insist otherwise is to be as dogmatic as Marx.
>>69022828
>guys let muslims displace you in your own countries or they'll blow you up
sounds reasonable
>>69023081
The difference is they have different names.
>>69023982
What first made you so hateful and fascist?
>>69021045
>Hey guys, you can't base your opinion of Jews on this one guy. I mean, it's not like we see a bunch of Jews spouting this same trash everyday.
>now I'll end my rant on bigotry by saying something bad about an entire group of people.
>>69023795
Also, Trump found in bed with a dead underaged boy.
>>69021798
This would be the greatest outcome, if only our magic wasn't for purely destruction.
>>69019381
wow
its a good thing he's already got a whole committee of smart, celebrated minds helping him
mr >goldberg
>>69024031
and different branches in Islam
>>69023946
>Free trade as you envision it assumes a sense of fair play amongst all participants, which doesn't exist. There is no reason to engage in "free trade" with partners that actively want to sabotage your economy in order to bolster their own, without actually creating any wealth.
There does not need to be fair play for free trade to be beneficial.
>Economists may support free trade on paper because it assumes that everyone is a rational actor working toward a common "good" (that being the general increase of domestic and global product) but realists understand that this doesn't actually happen.
I never said it was, nations compete. Everyone knows this
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>>69019381
>jew slams trump for not wanting to continue the policy of middle eastern interventionism and wars for israel
Color me surprised.
>>69024337
it doesn't matter until it comes time to deal with the problem
can you off the top of your head name every single party that runs for seats in the Knesset, including the defunct ones
>>69024269
Never let them take you your joy, anon.
>>69023761
well i did say democratic representation, at the end of the day you need people to vote for you.
also why it's possible to win the presidency with less than 25% of the popular vote. Every state gets 3 electoral college votes no matter how small so if you prioritize states with small populations you can win enough states with less than 1/4 the votes
>>69023911
I'm not arguing, just making an observation. Most of your opinions sound lifted straight from mainstream news articles (probably paul krugman). That coupled with the numerous misspellings makes me think you're trying to sound way smarter than you really are. But if you want a real rebuttal against the substance of your arguments then I can't say it any better than this guy.>>69023946
>>69023171
>t. eternal anglo
>>69019381
>literally Goldberg
>>69024377
>There does not need to be fair play for free trade to be beneficial.
Yet when it doesn't exist, countries with low qualify of life but high trade leverage (read: China) export that low quality of life to the rest of the planet when given the chance to do so. Hence why US manufacturing has been devastated by trade agreements with China and blue collar workers have taken a huge hit to their quality of life. Meanwhile China doesn't care about environmental or personnel regulations and for purely ideological (Maoist) reasons is content to have its populace suffer in sweatshops.
>I never said it was, nations compete. Everyone knows this
And what point are you trying to make? Nations compete, yes. Nations also try to destroy their enemies. There's a difference, and the latter makes total free trade an idealist stance, not a realist one
>>69024377
>There does not need to be fair play for free trade to be beneficial
That completely misses the core of the argument. Yeah, free trade is still beneficial but in the absence of fair play it only benefits those gaming the system. Why would you want to remain part of an agreement where the other major partners are totally screwing you over? Wars have been fought to stop this very thing (see: boshin war, boxer rebellion)
>>69024519
I agree with you that it's not something that can't be overcome, but it's still shows a certain ignorance.
On the other hand Trump has a lot of advantages.
>>69020880
Eventually, it's gonna be only the Jews. And a few sparse goyim slaves who just won't betray masta.
>Britian
>NATO
Neither of those things exist anymore and we should stop wasting our resources on them
>>69021045
But we already know the jew. The meddle and meddle and meddle.
>oy vey don't ruin what we've spent the last 60 years setting up, goyim
>THERE'S A POST-WAR INTERNATIONAL ORDER HERE, JEEEZ
>>69019381
>implying the President has the authority to make or break those treaties
...
I swear to fucking God the uninformed public (liberals) are goddamn pathetic.
>>69020500
oh shi-
AHMED YOU ARE OF GENIUS
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>>69022828
>don't fight your enemies or they win
>>69024269
Loopholes, son. Concentrate on using meme magic to destroy American bipartisanship... a Trump Webb ticket would simply be a fortunate consequence.
>>69020500
noice
>>69025780
Papandropulos, what the
>>69026023
it's papadopoulos you spag face
