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Why are western women so obsessed with being "independent"?
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Why are western women so obsessed with being "independent"? Don't they have enough freedom?
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>>69018001
someone explain what happend in that webem, right now
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It's an I'm a big kid now syndrome.
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>>69018234
I was waiting for hook to come out and snatch her off the stage.
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Dunno, but once they hit 30 and are single with no kids they are pretty much fucked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNLdLKTYNtw

This is the average life of most of western women today.
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My ex is a strong independent woman who don't need no man but still calls me at least once a week to fix her computer, car or to figure out how to set up her new Apple TV. And she still does it despite telling her the last dozen times that I'm busy.

They can't function on their own as well as men.
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>>69018681
Having any contact with an ex.

Mate.
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>>69018001
I'm strangely aroused, yet creeped out and calmed all at the same time at this webm.

If any reaction is spot on, it was Conans.
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>>69018001
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women, after realizing they are free for once, are flaunting their authority over men

begging to be put back in their place
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>>69018601
She kept a box of tapes of her ex lovers and boyfriends and wonders why she is single?
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>>69018681

Lmao and you haven't even blocked the number. Admit it, you love the rise cuck.
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What's going on in that webm?
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>>69018681
hahahahahahaha m88888 nooooooo
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>>69018681
She banging other lads mate.
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>>69018001
They're all for stronk independence until they hit their 30s/40s and realize they're on their fucking own.
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>>69018681
dude, you are performing boyfriend functions without the sex. this is an advanced level of cuckholdry
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>>69018001
They dont want it. They just pretend so because, the jew says it.
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>last night
>hanging out with gf
>go to arcade type place
>get pool table
>teaching her how to shoot, the rules, etc
>she's pretty shit obviously
>but getting better
>screws up shots
>ask her if she need more help
>"No I'm a strong independant womyn who don't need no man"
>actual quote with no prompting
>whole hour of this
>laughing the entire time
What a satirical night it was
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>>69018001
Anyone got the sauce on this?
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>>69018001
They have been told that they are an oppressed group to convince them to vote Democrat.
They don't know what they want.
Don't treat women like your equal, /pol/
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>>69018001
Because nowadays men don't want to get married. Men can leave them at any time and if they're dependent, they're fucked. Additionally, the parents of high to moderate value men (attractive, moneyed, skilled, intelligent) don't want their sons to marry "gold diggers".

Not saying it should be this way. But this is how it is.
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Ayy lmao

Women are more miserable today than ever before.

>Ooh look at my shiny important marketing or HR job
>Rents an apartment in an ''up and coming'' part of town
>Has had multiple failed relationships in the past
>Hobbies include drinking, taking drugs, making kale smoothies, yoga.

You should legit avoid all women who work in Marketing/HR.
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Please explain the webm
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>>69019361
Is she Canadian?

Your women are fucked mate, i swear they are all mentally ill.
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>>69019592
They're the worst. And their skills are fucking useless desu. They think they're making a meaningful difference when they're just overpaid parasites.
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>>69018953
There were a lot of tapes there...
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>>69018681
Holy fuck, what a cuck. Worst part is, she doesn't let you watch tyrone fuck her. You are seriously that fucking beta.
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>>69019755
>>69019592
These posts t.b.h.
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>>69018681
Cuck story
>looks at flag
Checks out m8
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>>69018681

She is right. So doesn't need to marry or fuck you to make you do some shits for her.
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>>69018681
If she's doing that I hope you're at least getting it in.
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Jewish cultural Marxism and anti-white male propaganda teaches western white women to defect and "liberate" themselves.

Meanwhile, there's a Starbucks on every corner and all aspects of society pander to women...highly contradictory and hypocritical.
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>>69019663
Thats her fetish apparently
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>>69019734
Yes she's canadian. Why?
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>>69018001
Men are the same way desu.
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>>69018681

JUST
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>>69019734
They are. I am not sure how it has happened, but around 90% of white women are stupid, money obsessed whores.
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>>69018001
they actually have too much freedom
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>>69020155
lmao this cant be real
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>>69020214
Don't be stupid, you know why he is asking.
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Simple. Women influenced by the lifstyle of 10% of all men decided that they also wanted it, so they started talking about wquality.

However, they soon realised that equality meant that they were going to be threated like shit like 90% of the working men, with little pay. With being told that they are precious snowflakes the whole life they could not accept that they were being average with no special skills or talent.

They started looking for excuses and saw that the white man was pushing them down. If they did not succede it was every other persons fault. With tons of white knight male confirming their theories.

Now some are startig to learn the truth, that equality means equal responsibilites, and some woman can not handle that truth
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>>69020230
Uh no.. There's no books written about how special snowflakes women are left and right..

Just saw some bitch promote this on TV:

http://www.amazon.com/All-Single-Ladies-Unmarried-Independent/dp/1476716560
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>>69019663
c'est comme ca qu'elle s'endort.
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>>69020423
I think he's implying that she is a dumb liberal, but I want to make sure, because that's not the case
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>>69019755
My ex worked in marketing and she was always stressing over the job.

Just fuck those types of women, they can be single for all i care.
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>>69020450

It's a victim complex which is how the left works. Which is why women vote left just like minorities and young college kids.

>muh equality
>muh oppression

It all boils down to anti-white male.
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>>69018001
What the fuck did I just watch?
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>>69020630
She she a dumb liberal?
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>>69020468
How often do you actually talk to women?
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>>69020155
kek
I just assumed it was some kind of kuckfetish but it was legit gold.

please be real.
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>>69018001
Its a shit test to dominate them you beta white faggot.
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>>69019592
>You should legit avoid all women who work in Marketing/HR.

I'd say career-oriented women in general. A lot of the young guys here, the ones who go to college, seem to believe that the best idea is to look for a wife in these educational institutions. Thing is, college is nothing more but a brainwash tool where blatant leftism of the toxic kind has free reign.

As a man you might think you're invulnerable to all the bullshit, you're there just for the degree and the knowledge (and you might be right) but women are very susceptible to social pressure, they just can't help it.
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>>69019592
The first thing I realized about this graph was that it was done with matplotlib.
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>>69020155
absolute madman

>underrated post
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>tfw you have to call out for the 4th time this month to babysit your sister's kid

Emilio is a pretty radical little dude but my boss said if I get caught playing 3ds or call out sick from work one more time then I'm getting the boot. Weird that she always works out of town on friday and saturday nights too, her schedule is pretty atypical.
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>>69019004
>>69018001
>>69018234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDNbZTrCwzI
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>>69018681
>not charging money for your services
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>>69018601
>Argie
>lives a gyppo life
>wonders why she's single
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>>69020814
She might not be right wing, but she's not illogical.

>laughing the entire time
Meant that she wasn't serious and is aware of the irony

We've also gone over how feminism today is "a bunch of men-haters"

If she were the average (read: stupid) girl, I wouldn't even bother with her.
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>>69018001

Ask the same question about men, then ask the question again about women.
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>>69020963
>career-oriented women in general.

The worst kind of women.

My exs brother was ruined by a woman like this.

They are married with one child although she doesn't want to be with him anymore so she sold the family house and moved back into the city into an apartment to further her marketing career, when she goes on holiday she drops the kid off with him and on weekends they sometimes spend it together at the grandparents home pretending to be a family.

If he gets a divorced he is fucked, if he doesnt get a divorce he is fucked.
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>>69021153
>those man shoulders
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>>69019592
Why britbruv? My ideal woman is an executive in a pr company in Texas.
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>>69021453

>The worst kind of women.


What? I would never marry a women who demands to be a stay at home-mom.
Bitch, if you want a ring on your finger you better find a job.
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>>69018601
So this little Jewess wants to ride the cock carosel, work and travel THEN feel bad about not getting married and having a family?

Yes, it's everyone's fault but hers. Totally. Absolutely.
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>>69018601
btw, she'd make a horrible mother. Who would want her?
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>>69021740
I'm talking the kind of women who prioritize career over everything else.
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>>69018601
oy vey
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>college gf went on and on about how she is independent and a feminist on our first date
>fast forward months
>begs to make me food
>wants to fuck always
>rubs my back
>pays for dinner half the time

Guys all women want is a strong man. It's in their nature to be submissive
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>>69021153

She is so hard on drugs, but i cant name it.
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>>69020884
Are you a faggot white knight? What the fuck point are you making here?
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>>69020936
All this projecting.. I hope you know kissing womens ass like a faggot makes you a beta ? Go fuck yourself you parasite
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>>69018001
They're obsessed with emulating fat kike princess lesbians.
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>>69021706
FUCK YOU, i always thought she was hot but now you mentioned this..
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It's just a challenge, they're challenging us. "LOOK I'M FREE I HOPE NOBODY SUBJUGATES ME HAHA." My chick was all about that feminist independence bullshit until I showed her the other way. Chick's like cooking and cleaning and being under the protection of a man, it's just that most dudes are fags so nobody ever tries to show them the alternative. All of that feminist stuff is just chicks trying to provoke us into proving them wrong, they're also usually MUCH happier once they've crossed over.

Never admit that you're wrong and give her vaginal orgasms and you can basically make her do anything to be honest.
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>>69021740
>What? I would never marry a women who demands to be a stay at home-mom.

Why? Are you inadequate?
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>>69021390

Uh.. men don't complain about being "empowered" or "independent".. And if so they're faggots.

Where are you dumb fucks coming from?
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>>69023573
Yes kissing women's ass makes you a beta, why the fuck do you think they always desire uncaring assholes that fuck them like a worthless holes they are?
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>>69023648
>literally wants to serve a woman
Kill yourself
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>>69023749
I don't know you tell me? You're the one sucking up to them
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>>69021740
Why not? You can't provide?
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>>69023803
Women should be submissive. If they want to go out and act like men, then they'll be treated like men.

And since I'm not a faggot like you, I prefer my women not to be like men.
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>>69021153
Anyone else notice that like 80% of the time a woman comes on a talk show she starts tlaking about sex and flirting non-stop?
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>>69023941
Thats all they are worth, just cum-bags with vaginas..

Don't any women talk about anything intelligent without that "woe is me" victim bullshit?
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>>69023929
You are the faggot because you slave yourself for a worthless hole, instead of forcing that hole to provide for herself while you fuck her, and take some of her money as "living in your house tax".
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>>69023584
She looks like she would have a 1/2 decent face and nice set of cans if she lost 400lbs.
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>>69024638
Protip: That is true for almost any woman.
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>>69018681
I bet you have a sauna in your cuck shed. Living the life. Jelly.
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>>69024524
Yeah real smart beta.. Like that will ever work. Maybe in your nigger country. Besides, that's a good way to get constantly cucked by other niggers while you think you're enslaving your bitch
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>>69021153
Was it autism?
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>>69022492
Probably MDMA
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>>69024861
It's not, there are extremely unattractive skinny broads.
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>>69024890
Whats better being a complete cuck and providing for that thing meaning wasting your money on that worthless hole or forcing her to work for herself then taking some of her money to watch her struggle to live while you rape her and tell the kids to go watch TV while all of this is happening. If she cheats on you then you can kill her and simply replace her with a new hole.
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>>69018601
Jesus murphy, her apartment is a shithole
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>>69025344
Ok whatever you say nigger
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>>69018601
Spic women are the worst..

Her voice is also fucking god awful..
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>>69020155
ooo, what a bad boy :)
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>>69018001
"Independent" is code for "slut".
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>>69025449
2.5/10
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Women are trying to play life by male rules and men are trying to play life by female rules
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>>69025344
Wow you're a psycho. Kill yourself
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>>69027312
Some guys can pull a fedora off. The only guy I know who does is married to a blonde qt and has a great personality
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>>69018681
Holy shit. Absolutely c u c k e d.
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>>69018601
>disgusting apartment
>many boyfriends and one night stands
>has a box of full of ex-boyfriends
>everything revolves around how she feels in the moment

Yet she still wonders why she is single.

And she's jewish. Every single time.
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>>69023584
This is extra sad. If she lost a good 100-150 lbs she'd easily be 8/10.
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>>69019259
>>69019897
>>69021272

Did you illiterate idiots see that he said he is too busy, meaning he didn't help her?
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>>69018001
>posting the ginger TV kike
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>>69028461

She's probably shitty in bed.
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>>69018681
>set up her new Apple TV
Jesus Christ on the cross, how retarded can someone be?
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>>69027409
I am doing what is needed you beta cuck, go on and serve your woman faggot.
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>>69018601

>Jew
>Turk

She's a ratroach.
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>>69031031
No you're a psychotic nigger that justifies raping and killing women. I hope a nutty woman or tranny mutilates you you fucking subhuman garbage can
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>>69030845
I know.. This ginger is hotter
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>>69018601
Dang, that girl's a mess. Within 4 minutes I can name 7 things she needs to change if she wants a guy to settle with her.
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>>69025344
No, you sound retarded and psychotic.
"Force your woman into prostitution and rape her while you're kids watch cartoons.
That actually sounds like what a lot of black pimps in America do.
Nigger detected.
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>>69020155

The funniest part is how she didn't have a problem with it until she realize that she was the one getting cucked, not her boyfriend
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>>69020884
Kill yourself. I hate white knight faggots
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>>69018001
Explain what's going on in this webm before it becomes my fetish.
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>>69023584
i want to use her warm wet fat holes
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>>69036753
this

i'd gladly fuck that cottage-cheese body
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>>69036753

Id explore all her wet holes too
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>>69018001
As a woman, I would say that we're still fooled by a "carrot on the stick mentality" when it comes to pursuing certain successful careers. They can study and work as hard as they like but they'll never get anywhere they'd like to in a certain field due to the bias of the said field or the culture they grew up in. A good example of this can be seen in Japanese and Chinese women.

Women are also statistically less happier now than they were 40-50 years ago because there's so much pressure to be too many things at once now. Careers don't really peak or stabilize until the 30 age mark, and 30's are the age when women HAVE to have kids or it's too late. Not to mention there's all this pressure from the media for women to swoon for strong personalities with successful careers WHILE trying to be mothers, but in return there's no media influence telling men that they need to or should step it up in the child-rearing department, especially so when most middle class families have both parents working to make a successful income now. I know this board likes to believe that the elites are feminizing and emasculating men with their bullshit, but I think it's more like they're coddling them to retreat to juvenile tendencies more than anything. It's not that men don't want to be masculine anymore, most of them just don't want to grow up. Crucial difference.

Men are having it easier and are statistically happier now because there's no real pressure to be "the" man of the household anymore. Marriage is a clusterfuck in the western world, so now men are realizing that they don't have to marry women to satiate their sex or power needs; they can just hire a hooker, retreat to porn and animu and waifu shit to satisfy their fantasies - or if they're the 20/80, then they can fuck as many twenty-somethings as they'd like, thanks to their success and money.
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>>69038237
Boo hoo women are never wrong and its men's fault..

Kill yourself cunt
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>>69038775
I wasn't implying that at all really.


Women are also wrong in many ways as well, I do believe that we're biologically inclined for certain roles, and that this stigma of tech, science, engineering and so on being biased is complete hogwash and more or less a biological imperative. However, when it comes to say, the entertainment fields, or finance, counseling, management and so on it's completely different. Those are fields that women are more inclined to follow from a biological standpoint, but culture, children-rearing and so on comes into play and fucks it up.

tldr; modern society is turning women into depressed neurotic messes and men into manchildren, but all in all the men will be better off because of it/

Also, thanks for being a fine example of being the modern man by degrading my message to something as simple as "lmao kek kill urself cunt." Real mature, real logical; real masculine.
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>>69020319

Eh, in Ottawa I find it's just the perfect storm of academic and cultural clash, whereby the girls undertake sociology, gender studies and whatever b.s. they can get their hands on - all the while chanting the sjw slogans.

When exactly did academia become a haven for bullshit?
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>>69039551
>When exactly did academia become a haven for bullshit?

Since the 20th century.
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>>69038237
Just drop the AoC to 14 which will drop the average age for childbearing and allow women to get babies out of the equation by the time it's vital for them to focus on work.
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>>69020155

"..they didn't rape me, I don't think"

Hamstering ensues.
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>>69033390
I never force her into prostituition, I said to make her get a job to provide for herself while you make money only for you and your kids, she must also pay a living fee every month to further show that you are the one who controls the household.
>>69038237
>As a woman, I would say
Ignore it men we are not supposed to listen to a damn thing these emotional wild animals say.
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>>69018681
Been there, done that my cuck friendo.
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>>69039474
lmao kek kill urself cunt
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>>69023584
I...probably would honestly.
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>>69018001
>semendemon
>who
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>>69033719
this
>I'm ok with being a whore, but being a prostitute is downright filthy
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>>69018601
Who would have thought that a narcissistic woman who is obsessed with how things look would end up living an otherwise empty life? This video has no lasting resolution, and this only mirrors her life choices.
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>>69039725
Would that really work? It didn't exactly work for Japan, and still doesn't.

The problem is that too much is expected to happen within the first 35 years of an individual's life. Need to undergo high school in your teens or you're fucked. Need to start dating in your teens and twenties or your fucked. Need to graduate college in your early twenties or you're fucked. Need to get married in your late 20's or 30's or you're fucked. For women, you HAVE to have children by your late thirties or you're definitely fucked; no ifs, ands or buts thanks to biology.

It's too rigid and strict for both sexes and that's was resulted in depressed women overall, or men going into full withdrawal mode and going full hikki like they do in Japan or China. Too many damn requirements to get anywhere now, thanks to outsourcing and machines overtaking the job market.
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>>69040568
>For women, you HAVE to have children by your late thirties or you're definitely fucked; no ifs, ands or buts thanks to biology.
That's the only one which actually has a time limit, the rest of the things you mentioned can easily be done successfully after the normal age for completion.
That's why I think the problem of women feeling overwhelmed at their new unlimited choices can be alleviated by allowing them to get their biological functions out of the way sooner, and then allowing them progress in whatever career or lifestyle they choose without the burden of trying to raise a kid at the same time.
Japan has some similarities to the USA, but I don't think you can really cross examine them because they exist on a whole different set of morals and social sanctions.
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>>69023584
Damn, what a waste. She could be so pretty.

How stupid do you have to be to be fat, rather than live a life of extreme ease simply by not overeating and doing some fucking cardio?
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>>69038237
>A good example of this can be seen in Japanese and Chinese women
But the thread is about Western women, China and Japan are not western countries so you example does not prove much.
> men are realizing that they don't have to marry women to satiate their sex or power needs; they can just hire a hooker, retreat to porn and animu and waifu shit to satisfy their fantasies
What exactly is preventing women from doing the same?
>statistics shows that women are less happy
source?
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>>69039474
lmao kek kill urself cunt
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>>69038237

Men's suicide in the UK and USA has risen each decade.

Sources for "Men have it easier and are statistically happier?"

The top 20% of men have always "had it easy." Regardless of time period.
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>>69038237
>They can study and work as hard as they like but they'll never get anywhere they'd like to in a certain field due to the bias of the said field or the culture they grew up in

>>69039474
However, when it comes to say, the entertainment fields, or finance, counseling, management and so on it's completely different. Those are fields that women are more inclined to follow from a biological standpoint, but culture, children-rearing and so on comes into play and fucks it up.


please expand on this
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>>69041216
>What exactly is preventing women from doing the same?

It's starting to change, I think. Though I think it ultimately comes down to children. Like how men have a biological imperative to have frequent sex until their mid 40's, most women have this biological imperative to have babies no matter how stupid the costs, especially in the 30's age range - right before we lose are fertility, amusingly.

It's pretty much impossible to for a single parent to support a kid in this day and age unless if they have a successful career that makes over $80,000 a year.

>source?

Was posted earlier in the thread. You can easily google it too, lots of sources if you do that.
>>69019592
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>>69018601
Holy shit what's wrong with her voice.
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>>69042396
Swallowed too much semen
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>>69038237
>there's no real pressure to be "the" man of the household anymore

oh there is. men just chose to ignore it because women ignore their functions as well
it's called adapting so you avoid getting the short end of the stick by at least some margin
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>>69020155
goes limp? he's a pimp
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>>69018601

>jews wiping themselves out with their own propaganda

I'm Ok with this, their is far less of them then us.
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>>69023456
That makes me feel good.
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>>69024524
De only ting dat work in Jamaicar be da white man, de black ooman an de ass.
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>>69043951
I swear to god you Jamaicans have to be mentally retarded.
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>>69018601
Is the video supposed to make us feel bad for the dumb kike birch?
She was just a worthless self-centered slut that rode the cock carousel all through her 20's. She would make a terrible wife anyway. There's absolutely no way a woman like her could ever wrap her mind around the concept of loyalty. This is why vigins are praised. Not because of better sex, but because they offer something more than just pure hedonism .
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>>69018001
*with being corporate servants
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>>69036291
too late anon
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>>69023456
Thanks for sharing that beautiful story senpai, Will is one based dude.
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