CHRISTFAGS BTFO
>>69016715
post your sources
>>69016715
That's just genesis of the name. Idea of celebrating spring as the time of rebirth of nature and linking egg with the concept is actually way older than that.
>>69016865
www.google.com
>>69016715
Christmas and halloween are also pagan traditions changed to match Christian traditions, what's your point?
>>69017124
Halloween?
>>69016715
>lol Pagan goddess so cool, Christians BTFO
>feminism yay!
>Mr. Imaginary
>no one denies Jesus actually existed
Atheist "logic"
>>69017281
A celtic holiday, do your research before trying to take down an entire religion
Christian holidays have always been a blending of celebrations from different cultures. Go check out some of the traditions they have in christian/catholic south america.
>>69017354
Every polytheist religion has gods and goddesses, you retard. How on earth does that have anything to do with feminism?
>>69016715
I thought germs hated the eternal anglo?
>>69017554
>Christian holidays have always been a blending of celebrations from different cultures.
Yeah, but liberals like to make fun of this because they don't like actual multiculturalism.
>>69017704
This germ isn't very smart, only just found out what most holidays started as
>>69017704
eternal anglos aren't anglos. otherwise they wouldn't have beady eyes
>>69017540
Hardcore christians, especially mormons, hate Halloween. It has nothing to do with scripture.
>>69017649
>the point
>you
They called Jesus imaginary immediately after praising a 100% imaginary pagan Goddess tied to their primitive understand of weather.
>>69016715
It is a popular trend in the English-speaking world to accuse Christians of stealing Easter, or of stealing the concept of the celebration from Saxon pagans. The core of this argument is based on the term 'Easter' itself; it is claimed the word is derived from the goddess Eostre or Ostara. However, scholars disagree as to the origins of the modern word 'Easter'. While some believe it was named directly after the goddess, other scholars believe the root meaning of the word is "the opening of the month" or "the dawn" (i.e. the rising sun), and it is believed that the Christian Saxons chose this name and applied it to the feast of Christ's Resurrection due to the significance of the term (i.e. the rising sun, or figuratively the resurrecting Son), and not because it was the name of a goddess.
Regardless of the name, the Saxon people converted to Christianity beginning in the 6th century AD, but Christians throughout the Roman Empire — including in Britannia, prior to the arrival of the Saxons — were already celebrating the feast of the Resurrection since the earliest centuries, centuries before the term 'Easter' was used, and centuries before the Saxons had any contact with Christians or Romans.
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just celebrated Christ's resurrection with the senpai and you cant stop me :^)
>we was chieftains and shieet
lmao this is how pathetic "white" "people" are smdh
>>69017847
Something which people in the English-speaking world often also forget is that the term 'Easter', regardless of its meaning or its origin, is an English term used only in the English-speaking world. The term 'Easter' is not used in the rest of the world. There are only two other major countries which use a term with the same derivative, and that is Austria and Germany, which both refer to the celebration of the Resurrection as 'Ostern' (minor countries include Lichtenstein and Luxembourg, which use the terms 'Ostern' and 'Ouschteren'). In nearly every other European country, the celebration which the English call 'Easter' is referred to either by 1) a term deriving from the Latin word 'Pascha' or the Greek word 'Paskha' (Πάσχα); 2) a term deriving from Old Church Slavonic, or 3) a term with the meaning of "Big Day" or "Great Night". Most countries in Europe, and in the rest of the world, use a term which falls into one of these three categories, with very few exceptions.
The following countries use a term derived from the Latin word 'Pascha' or the Greek word 'Paskha' (Πάσχα):
Italy: 'Pasqua';
Spain: 'Pascua';
Portugal: 'Páscoa';
France: 'Pâques';
Belgium: 'Paosje' (also 'Poaschn' and 'Påke');
Netherlands: 'Pasen';
Denmark: 'Påske';
Norway: 'Påske';
Sweden: 'Påsk';
Iceland: 'Páskar';
Russia: 'Paskha' (Пacхa);
Greece: 'Paskha' (Πάσχα)
Albania: 'Pashkët';
Finland: 'Pääsiäinen';
Romania: 'Paște';
Ireland: 'Cáisc' (or 'Casc' in Old Irish).
>>69017938
In Scotland and Wales the local terms used are 'Pace' and 'Pasg'. In certain regions of England, such as Cornwall, the term used in the local Cornish language is 'Pask'. Similarly, in the local dialect along the Rhine, in Germany, the term used is 'Paisken'. In Low Saxon the term used is 'Poaske'. While some of the Swiss cantons use the term 'Ostern', other cantons use the terms 'Pâques', 'Pasqua' and 'Pasca'. Even in Germany, although they use the term 'Ostern' for Easter itself, the day prior to Easter is referred to as 'Vollpascha'. All of these words are derived from the Latin word 'Pascha' (or 'Paskha' [Πάσχα] in Greek), which is what Christians in all the above countries call—and have always called—'Easter', which was celebrated by the earliest Christians.
In some Slavic countries, the terms used derive from an Old Church Slavonic word for 'Resurrection' or 'to resurrect'. For example:
Bosnia: 'Uskrs';
Croatia: 'Uskrs';
Montenegro: 'Uskrs';
Serbia: 'Uskrs' (Уcкpc) (also 'Vaskrs' [Bacкpc]).
These words all derive from Old Church Slavonic, and mean "Resurrection".
In some other Slavic countries, and even Baltic countries, the terms used mean "Big Day" or "Great Night". For example:
Bulgaria: 'Beликдeн';
Czech Republic: 'Velikonoce';
Latvia: 'Lieldienas';
Lithuania: 'Velykos';
Poland: 'Wielkanoc';
Slovakia: 'Veľká noc';
Slovenia: 'Velika noč';
Ukraine: 'Velykdenʹ' (Beликдeнь);
Belarus: 'Vialikdzień' (Bялiкдзeнь);
Macedonia: 'Veligden' (Beлигдeн).
>>69017984
The Christian celebration of Christ's Resurrection (called 'Easter' in English) has nothing to due with Saxon paganism or with the goddess Ostara. In fact, some scholars even doubt the existence of a goddess named Ostara. To date no evidence has been found that Saxon pagans ever worshiped a goddess by that name. It is believed that Saxon Christians merely applied the descriptive term 'Eostur' or 'Ostara' to Christ's Resurrection due to its figurative significance, not due to copying the formal name of a goddess. Nonetheless, early Christians in Italy, Greece, Gaul, Anatolia, and throughout the whole Roman world were already celebrating the feast of the Resurrection, independent of the Saxons, centuries before the Saxons were encountered, and centuries before their customs became known to us.
A brief timeline of the history of the Christian celebration of the Resurrection:
• First and Second Century AD - Christians throughout the Roman Empire celebrate a spring festival honouring the Resurrection of Christ, known as Pascha.
• Second and Third Century AD - The East and West argues over when Pascha should be celebrated; some say it should be celebrated according to the lunar calendar (as was the custom in parts of Asia Minor, especially Antioch), others say according to the solar calendar (as was the custom in Rome and Alexandria).
• Fourth Century AD - The Council of Nicaea decides that Pascha should be celebrated by all on the same date, on the Sunday after 14 Nisan.
• Fifth Century AD - The tribes of Angles, Saxons, and Jutes invade and settle in Britannia.
• Sixth and Seventh Century AD - The tribes which settled in Britannia — collectively called Anglo-Saxons — convert to Christianity.
• Seventh or Eighth Century AD - The converted Christians in Britannia (and later in Germany) begin to use the word 'Eostur' and 'Ostara' to describe the day of celebration which everyone else in the Christian world referred to as 'Pascha'.
>>69017806
>a holiday filled with demons and satan
>nothing to do with scripture
God damn you are a stupid burger. It's not about liking the holiday, it's the origins
>>69018009
It is clear then that the celebration known as 'Easter' in the English-speaking world does not have its origins in Saxon festivals honouring Ostara, nor is it based on any other festivals honouring an old goddess. What the English-speaking world calls 'Easter' (and what is today referred to as 'Ostern' in a few other countries) was already an established holiday in the early Christian Church, and the celebration had nothing to do with Saxon pagans or their festivals. In fact, the very existence of the Saxon people was not realized by the Roman and Christian world until approximately the fourth century AD; at that point Christians had already been celebrating the feast of the Resurrection for at least two centuries.
To conclude, Christians did not "steal" Easter from the Saxons; the feast celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, known as Pascha, predates the designated term 'Easter' (and 'Ostern'); the term 'Easter' is merely a word Anglo-Saxon Christians used for an already-existing Christian holiday, a day which was celebrated throughout Christian lands long before the existence of the English language.
>Christians "borrowed" from pagans
This isn't news.
>>69016715
everybody knows that the church incorporated pagan holidays. everybody except you, apparently.
>>69017938
easter is linked to other germanic words that aren't used anymore or have different meanings by now
>>69017806
Halloween literally translates to All Hallow's Eve
It was a holiday which the church created on top of the Celtic harvest holiday for praying for souls in purgatory.
Again, do your research.
Also
>sola scriputra
wew lad
Like christmas, easter was placed at the same time as a pagan holiday to try to convert pagans to christianity. It worked.
>>69018158
Easter - the name, is obviously from the Anglo-Saxon God, she was also worshiped by a few other Germanic tribes like the Langobards and Suebi.
>>69018010
Most religions do involve mention of demons and demon-like creatures, but Halloween itself has never been fitted to match Christian traditions and the church commonly condemns it for this reason.
Damn dude shit hello father it's me yeah I just learned all about your deception can't boypucci your way out of this one.
>>69018351
>Apparently named from the goddess Ēastre, from Proto-Germanic *Austrǭ, from a suffixed form of Indo-European *āus- ‘dawn’. Cognate with Old Frisian āsteron, Old High German ōstarūn (German Ostern).
>>69016715
Christianity isn't Islam
>>69016715
She looks qt.
>>69016715
Uhoh nobody cares.
In fact the Christian Easter is a jewish tradition older than your barbaric shit.
1.- The rabit is a tradition to whom? Because not a single catholic heard about it until hollywood spread its shit around the world as usual.
2.- The only Easter egg tradition in my country is the pic related one, and again is linked to the Peshaj/Seder celebrated by the jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_Seder_Plate
3.- This.
>>69017938
>>69017984
>>69018009
>>69017806
>Hardcore christians, especially mormons
Mormonism has as much to do with christianity as islam does.
>>69016865
nevermind, easter is specifically described in the bible. it even calls it by its name "easter" in the bible. sorry for the pagan tradition meme
>>69018392
>http://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween
READ NIGGA READ
>>69018009
>>69017984
>>69017938
This, check your english privilege you kikes.
Praise Jesus OK?
>>69016715
wow, you sure convinced me
gonna go sacrifice some people to thor now
>>69016715
God damn will you fedoras shut the fuck up.
>ACSHUALLY
>BETCHA DIDNT KNOW THAT
I bet you didn't fucking know that either until an even bigger fedoralord taught you to go forth and spread the Good Turd. And it's probably a false etymology anyway because half the time you nerds get it wrong anyway.
I hate you fucks.
t. non-fedora atheist
>>69018010
Halloween has no Christa connection as of today but most Christian participate in it not questioning it's origin.
>>69018091
It is to most Christians.
Atheists should kill themselves.
Their fedora will be burned in front of them in hell.
Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead at the time of the Jewish Passover celebration, but there is no mention of an annual celebration in the Bible. Early Christians commemorated Jesus' resurrection on or near the date of Passover, and the celebration was apparently well-established by the mid second century A.D.1 Due to the use of different calendar systems over the years, the dates of Passover and Easter have now drifted apart.
The word "Easter" appears once in the King James Version of the Bible (Acts 12:4), but that was a mistranslation of the Greek word Pascha. All other Bible versions translate it correctly as "Passover."
The English word "Easter" is believed to be derived from a spring festival for a pagan goddess, Eostre. The pagan and Christian celebrations occurred at about the same time of year, so the Christian celebration became known as "Easter" in the English-speaking world. In other languages, the name of the Easter celebration is frequently derived from the Hebrew Pesach (meaning Passover) or the equivalent Greek Pascha. It is known as Pâques in French, Pascua in Spanish and Pasqua in Italian.
Several ancient non-Christian traditions survive in children's celebrations of Easter. "Easter eggs" are colored in bright colors and used in Easter egg hunts or rolling contests. Rabbits, a symbol of springtime fertility, are depicted as the "Easter Bunny" in children's literature.
>>69016715
Fuck right of faggot it just got stolen wtf is santaclaus ?
>>69018898
>I bet you didn't fucking know that either until an even bigger fedoralord taught you
Are you fucking retarded or something? You just don't stumble upon knowledge. Someone needs to tell you most things. Or did your parents just let you grow up into conclusion that using diapers is a bad decision?
>>69018010
a) Demons have nothing to do with scripture. _All_ nations and tribes believe in demons, even the most primitive ones untouched by Christianity.
b) Demons, in general, have nothing to do with Satan. Your understanding of demonology is primitive and debased.
>>69018898
>t. Cuckles McCuckerton
Fixed
>>69019191
>http://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween
READ NIGGA READ
>>69019316
>cant argue without posting links
If you knew what you were talking about, you would tell him in your own words and then post a link for some evidence.
>>69019191
>Your understanding of demonology is primitive and debased.
As it's everyone else. Scripture is quite contradictory and unclear about demons and what we today call demonology was made up by a bunch of autistic grimoire creators and is not considered canon by most denominations.
>>69016715
The name comes from the Egyptian Ishtar you fucking mong.
>>69019179
>Santa Clause comes from St. Nicholas
Watching Christians try to cover up the roots of Santa is really funny. He comes from a wide range of pagan myths. Santas earliest form was Odin as he rode his 8 legged horse on the wild hunt. Combine that with other myths about spirits who reside in fireplaces and will reward well behaved children with gifts and some other random things.
>>69019186
Instead of stumbling stumbling upon something or just being told in passing, one could do research and seek knowledge out.
Something these tippers don't ever do. They have the same intellectual depth as "I Fucking Love Science" followers on faceberg.
>>69016715
I celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ not a fucking rabbit faggot
>>69019521
Are you even literate? _All_ tribes and nations acknowledge the existence of demons. The existence and behavior of demons is something that is self-evident from careful observation. You don't need a Bible or fucking grimoires to learn the basic facts about demons.
>>69019722
I like the idea of Eostre being a part of Easter. She's neat and our society could use a dose of cultural appreciation of fertility. We can just make her the Easter Santa. I'd like to see all these holidays become less Christian and more fun myths for children. Everyone least favorite part of Christmas and Easter is Jesus.
>>69016715
All Abrahamic religion is anti-white
End of Discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q_6SlJJec
>>69019937
You could make it about whatever the fuck you want.
The only thing children care about is chocolate and presents.
>>69019937
Yea for degenerates
>>69019716
>Instead of stumbling stumbling upon something or just being told in passing, one could do research and seek knowledge out.
You are still given this knowledge by someone else. It doesn't matter that you read something in a book, someone needed to write it down first.
>>69020110
It makes more sense to make it more closely related to it's ancient roots. Something nice about staying true to ancient traditions.
>>69020129
We don't need Jesus to not be degenerate.
>>69020336
>We don't need Jesus to not be degenerate.
Empiric evidence shows otherwise. Are you against science??
>>69020336
Yea you need him since 95%of the westfags don't have another source for moral values
Not to mention you fucked up by giving women power
>>69016715
BTFO turkmet
>>69016715
>catholic church adapts pagan rituals and traditions to accommodate pagan converts because it literally doesn't make a difference no one gives a shit
>one thousand years later, atheists think they've stumbled upon some great revelation that the catholic church incorporated pagan traditions for the sake of pagan converts and use it as evidence that Christ didn't exist despite all historians, even the atheist ones, saying Christ very much existed.
why are you such a fucking faggot holy shit.
>>69020552
There are plenty of other philosophies besides Jesus. Jesus's word is so simple and fundamental it's like religion for dummies and we don't need to worship him as a God to have good values.
>>69020728
>and use it as evidence that Christ didn't exist despite all historians
I've never seen that argument made. It's just fun to watch Christians squirm with when they finally get the answer to the questions they've asked themselves many times before. No one has ever not questioned what Santa or the Easter bunny have to do with Jesus. It's just funny to watch them panic as they learn it technically has "satanic" roots.
>>69020776
K
Now go back to r/politics
>>69018713
This juhas gets it
>>69016715
This is a pretty much well known fact. If you find any kind of weird ritual in Christianity it is most likely the carryover from older traditions of people in the region. Christianity is not Islam, it doesn't destroy the old, it preserves it and gives it a new context.
BTFO how exactly? Because you didn't know it?
>>69020997
Never been there actually.
>>69016715
THE ETERNAL ANGLO STRIKES AGAIN
>>69019651
Which is why reasonable countries like polent stronk have no use at all for a fat man in a red suit and just go full St. Nicholas with miter and crosier. Just cut out the middleman.
>>69017704
>I thought germs hated the eternal anglo?
Germs are self hating mostly.
WE
Are you ready for tommorow, my fellow slavbros ?
Easter is just a mistranslation of Passover..
Sorry "Christians"
>>69021137
SERBIA IS OFFICIALLY UNDER U.S PROTECTION
>>69017124
>>69017281
>>69017540
>>69017806
>>69018010
>>69018159
>>69018392
all hallows eve wasn't supposed to be a holiday
the day after was. Halloween was just some fun people started having because it was supposed to be the last night wicked spirits could mess around.
>>69021137
>Because you didn't know it?
Because Christians don't know it and stupidly think it is original to them. The whole religion is basically the religion of thieves. It's pretty amusing.
>>69021694
Holy shit, Shlomo, your nose is showing...
>>69021596
>Halloween was just some fun people started having because it was supposed to be the last night wicked spirits could mess around.
Literally saying death has no power over men
>Christ died
>Christ rose again
>Death powerless
>Make fun of death and scary stuff the day before the saints (who have conquered death, with Christ) are honored
That could be the reason for the scary costumes: things that used to scare men are no longer scary in light of Christ's resurrection
>>69020947
they don't have satanic roots though.
most have ancient cultural roots that go back centuries. and the santa clause story has many origins, most of which stem from Britain's father christmas which wasn't a thing until the 16th century.
stop being an edgy fedora lord.
>>69021507
What is going on here? Do you whip girls?
>>69021694
It's not thief kike
Those are basically pagan traditions/"rituals" while celebrating something else
Yea it sounds stupid but it's a mix of both, even if the pagan beliefs have been removed
>>69022017
i think the costumes started more as just pranks.
ya know just kids going around trying to scare adults on a dark night.
>>69016715
That's usually the game plan:
Early Christians
> Hey can we join your festival
> Joins festival
> Interprets festival in light of the Christian revelation
> Pagans decline
> Christians decline
> Festival remains, but now Christianized
An effective game plan really:
minority joins -> doesn't assimilate -> minority becomes majority -> Christians dominate
>>69016715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSb1UpGZpJA
>>69022047
All forms of paganism are satanic. To delude the worship of Jesus with Santa and the Easter bunny is outright sin.
>>69019651
we always had our own versions which survived from the old. Ofc since the coca cola santa, these old ones have been replaced. One keep customs in the districts, I used both basically as most.
Well the idea is that there are tons of santas. They live on old farms, and they are really really small basically like a gnome. It's important to give them porridge in ie christmas. Failing to do so may cause havoc, he might do anything from killing your animals, making your cows milk sour and shit like that. We call both nisse. The nisse is considered to be the first farmer on a farm, which was buried in a grave mound there. Most people are not aware of this fact though.
>>69022119
Whip and throw them into water.
>>69022316
>trying to scare adults on a dark night.
One could see it as attempting to scare people using costumes
> Figuratively making fun of spooks and ghouls by dressing up like these things
After the scary part, children have a good laugh.
>>69020728
>despite all historians, even the atheist ones, saying Christ very much existed.
Nope.
>>69021870
>>we're on the right side of history -christians
christianity was always just a compilation of priapatic cults from the roman occupation of jerusalem. nothing more. and in that sense the continuation of millennia of various animism, spiritism, and transcendentalism. it became so popular by a malignant strategy of seeking out the sad and weak and ugly and botched and bungled.
>>69022128
its an attempt to unify europeans. christianity blends all the little european pagan groups into something all of us can worship without fighting. didnt go as well as they planned probably desu
>>69021694
>Because Christians don't know it and stupidly think it is original to them.
I really doubt you will find any Christian that thinks that eggs and rabbits are the point of Easter
>>69022413
>All forms of paganism are satanic
well maybe if you're a retarded protestant
paganism is just paganism. just because someone worships a false god doesn't mean they worship satan.
its not like the hindus are satan worshipers.
>>69022316
well youre fucking stupid then or a kike
>>69022453
2:50 on this video
this should freak you fuckers out. Video evidence of a nisse caught unintentionally. I had not seen this, I'm trying to find more. Don't fuck with the nisse
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/utrolige-historier/moey-paa-landet-fanget-uforklarlig-vesen-paa-film/a/23536704/
>>69022555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9CC7qNZkOE
the historicity of Jesus is very much well established fact. so much so that the Jewish Talmud even admits he exists and performed miracles, albeit they attribute his miracles to Satan.
>>69019651
>Watching Christians try to cover up the roots of Santa is really funny. He comes from a wide range of pagan myths.
Basically how Christianization works
Before Christ
> Pagans knew truths
> but could only express them using imperfect myths
After Christ
> Pagan myths are now enlightened:
> the truths they have are now perfected in Christ
Basically how Christ perfected the imperfect Jewish law through His death & resurrection
>>69022316
There was an old tradition where you dressed up disguised as a spirit and were led by an adult, also in a costume, and you went to some grave site and basically discovered who your past life was. There are some variations but ultimately it was to disguise yourself from the roaming spirits. There has always been a certain element of mischief and pranks. Where I live the night before Halloween is called Mischief Night and kids go out corning cars, smashing pumpkins and egging houses.
>>69016715
Easter is about chocolate Eggs you morons.
>>69016715
>Convincing pagans to convert
>Tell them to keep the same dates, but change the rituals and the meaning behind them
OMG CHRISTIANITY JUZ STOLE FROM PAGAN KANGZ AN SHIETS
>>69016715
>>69022657
great rebuttal there my atheist friend.
>>69022598
Mostly because people everywhere knew and wanted to keep "doing what they've seen from mummy" if you get what I mean.
Specially in rural areas, people sticked to practical traditions.
Easter is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox.
Based.
Happy Easter
>>69017124
Just another culture destroyed by Christianity.
>>69022598
>its an attempt to unify europeans. christianity blends all the little european pagan groups into something all of us can worship without fighting.
> Many traditions
> Christian unity
First instance of: DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH
>>69016715
Whatever, I'm not the one getting flooded with Muslims and turning into Islamic state.
Typical fedora hating own history and traditions.
>>69017825
>praising
Didn't. Happen. Nice reading comprehension.
>>69022958
Im a proud christian troll
>>69023078
Used to sing that shit
Feelsmemoriesman.jpg
>>69023074
What?
Christian schisms occurred long after the majority of pagan cultures and faiths were wiped out.
>>69022047
>santa clause story has many origins, most of which stem from Britain's father christmas which wasn't a thing until the 16th century.
Which itself is based on the life of a Turkish Bishop who kicked a heretic's ass.
Yeah, St. Nicholaus punched Arius at the Council of Nicea for denying Christ's Divinity.
>>69022565
Christianity is, was and will be originally a cult born from Jews. Mostly because, you know, Jesus Crist is the Messiah, was born as a Jew, grew as a Jew and died by the Jewish law.
The modus operandi was brought to you thanks to the Roman Empire who converted and changed one religion with other.
It was the Roman Empire who used the religion merging as a conquering method.
So no, you are absolutely wrong except if you use the terms "animism, spiritism, and transcendentalism" as a definition of the Faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
>>69023279
>lying about christ on easter sunday
you're certainly a troll
>>69022824
>the historicity of Jesus is very much well established fact.
No it isn't. Wishing hard doesn't make it true. No historians of the time period in that area ever mention him. The tiny amount that have, have been proven forgeries.
> so much so that the Jewish Talmud even admits
So a book written by biased idiots who had made up bullshit of their own that can be written to say anything they want included another made up story is proof somehow.
>>69017806
and yet the pope OK'd it centuries ago
>>69018996
It really isn't. You probably think atheists know the bible better than most Christians too.
>>69016715
>implying it's a bad thing that we cucked a culture so hard we stole their holidays
>>69023305
>Christian schisms occurred
It was a good try though
> really could have been better
>>69023742
>Easter and Yule are in the bible
>>69020069
the comfiest videos on Youtube.
>>69023858
Jewgle strike again.
>>69022555
Only hack "historians" respected by no real scholars claim a man named Jesus didn't exist. That's why you only find their theories on crackpot websites and self published books.
>>69023376
>Wishing hard doesn't make it true.
what great irony
>No historians of the time period in that area ever mention him
josephus, a jewish historian, and Tacitus, a roman historian, both from the period and wrote about Christ.
and this despite the fact that you are asking for a higher standard than we give to literally every historical figure or event. we have more evidence for Jesus than we do for Alexander the great, Xerxes, Leonidas, Hannibal, Aristotle, Plato, and so many others.
if you're going to apply the same standard you set for Jesus to them then we are forced to conclude that they never existed either.
>So a book written by biased idiots who had made up bullshit of their own that can be written to say anything they want included another made up story is proof somehow.
its called the criterion of embarrassment you uneducated idiot. the Jews and Romans had every reason to suppress information of Christ or even outright lie but instead they chose to wright about him even though it doesn't serve their interest.
>>69016715
>get conquered by Christfags
>your pagan rituals are reintepreted into Christian rituals
>claim Christianfags got BTFO
No.
>>69022413
why else do you think the fat belly guy is called satan uh santa , God is smart and we are to blind to see
>>69023321
Yea dude you're so fucking retarded
He wasn't a jew for the simple fact that he was the son of God Who didn't came from a mutilated cock if you wanna take the fedora way.
And how the fuck did he grew as a jew if he despited them and teached contradictory morals?
>>69022641
>just because someone worships a false god doesn't mean they worship satan.
All pagan gods are demons.
>its not like the hindus are satan worshipers.
Of course they are.
>>69016715
>Mehmet
fuck off turkroach
>>69016715
Yeah the church decided to let people continue their solstice traditions as long as it was about Christ
Also Jesus was foretold by the stars so it makes complete sense anyway
>>69024270
difference of opinion.
>>69016715
>Germanic goddess
>started with Anglo-Saxon
Thats s contradiction in of itself
>>69024238
"Jewishness" is matrilineal.
>>69023046
129 posts in and not a single mention of Ishtar (Astarte?) are you losers even trying?
This day was celebrated by pagans for thousands of years, they just gave their own names to it, and while some danced around a pole, others sacrificed animals and even children on this day.
>areyoueventrying?.jpg
>>69024329
Anglo-Saxons were proto-Germans. Eostre probably was too, but I don't think we have much attestations before the migration to England.
>>69018996
COOL
We're like the borg.
>>69022806
to spooky to click
>>69023321
>>69024238
Christ was a jew but he wasn't a Talmudic jew and he said himself he did not just come for the children of Israel.
Talmudic judaism, the judaism we are familiar with today, did not exist until long after the crucifixion.
>>69024375
it wasn't matrilinneal until after Christ.
>>69016715
Who cares? The Anglo-Saxons were evil white men, they deserved to have their countries, their cultures, and traditions erased or appropriated by an invading people.
>>69024472
I don't think Eostre is a 1:1 analog with Ishtar.
Pagans had lots of goddesses (and gods) with similar traits and kind of mixed them from place to place, but it's hard to trace clear lines.
>>69023376
Fact that Jesus isn't mentioned by anyone at the time really is quite puzzling given how we have informations about dozens of similar messiah figures from the time. He might actually be one of them with gospels being wildly skewed images of him given how they were written decades after his death. Or he might be just a composite character put together from many different sources. Some of the 'messiahs' were called Jesus and few were indeed crucified. Today it's imposible to say which one was an inspiration for Jesus of Paul.
>>69024679
>it wasn't matrilinneal until after Christ.
No shit? I did not know that.
Wait, why would the Jews change because of Christ?
>>69024472
see >>69019612
its just nobody cares.
>>69024716
one sjw arguing with another sjw on a subject no one gives a shit about. Amazing.
>>69023376
fuck of man even your messiah dawkins admits that jesus has Existed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5EjA-JNiVk
>>69020997
It's a Sanders-Clinton hellhole. Nobody wants to go there.
At least they realize the establishment os fucked.
>>69024472
>Ishtar (Astarte?)
Suppose next people are going to say the Philippine Islands are related to the Philippians in the Bible?
> Because they sound alike reasoning
It's 2016.
You literally know it's [curent year] because Jesus rose from the dead on the first Easter.
All of human history pivots on this event. Nothing else even matters.
>>69024324
> human sacrifice and other perverse anti-human rituals is just a "difference of opinion"
>>69016715
Do you have source of the Catholic church promoting bunny as a symbol of Easter?
>>69024915
Welcome to satire.
>>69024329
You can't be Germanic if your not Anglo Saxon
>>69016715
WE WUZ
>>69024679
"Jesus Himself was not a Jew (Judean) or resident of Judea, He was a Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69; John 7:41), and a Judahite or descendent of the Tribe of Judah. The Judeans of prominence were not of the Tribe of Judah, but of Edomites. Pilate was being ironic when he wrote the sign "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Judeans" for the Cross (John 19:19). That is, "the Galilean who was King of the Judeans," as in "Queen Victoria of England, Empress of India." Jesus grew up in Nazareth in Galilee. "
Thoughts?
>>69024883
they changed because of the diaspora.
>>69025092
Wasn't there a South Park episode about that?
>>69021160
They're way slower than /pol/, and their discussions of a single article can be thousands of replies long with gold/upboat incentives for making well thought out and edited posts. Because posting what's right isn't a good enough incentive on it's own.
>>69016715
Hippitas hoppitas.
>>69025065
theres a clear distinction between worshiping a false god and sacrificing other humans.
>>69025167
Sign wasn't written by Pilate but by soldiers during the execution. Pilate didn't have enough shit for that and wasn't present during crucifixion.
>>69025336
>theres a clear distinction between worshiping a false god and sacrificing other humans.
No. There isn't a pagan culture in existence that doesn't engage in human sacrifice. (Even Muslims do.)
>>69024472
>not a single mention of Ishtar (Astarte?)
Thats because Egyptian anything can go suck a dick
A bunch of copycats who's wonders were designed and taught to them by either Greeks or the Assyrians(who were taught how to do so by Greeks as well)
Bunch of faggots if you ask me
>>69024204
Paganism in the British Isles wasn't even "conquered" by Christianity. It was conquered by nominally converted kings who converted to Christianity for money and political favors.
They fucked their own cultures over for gold.
>>69025167
when i say jew, i refer to yahwists.
i recognize theres a difference between judeans and modern jews.
>>69025137
You have that backwards.
>>69025438
What else are Iron Age tribes supposed to do with ornery POWs?
>>69025518
There was substantial temporal reasons for kings to become Christian post-Rome.
One being Christians are more willing to be good little peasants and worry less about rule by consent.
>>69025608
> "human sacrifice is just a quaint tradition"
You are worse than a Muslim apologist.
>>69025431
I reckon he sympathyzed him if I'm not mistaken
But still the soldiers would have written that by the reason, irony, obviously inducted by the Jews who wanted him dead
>>69025438
>There isn't a pagan culture in existence that doesn't engage in human sacrifice.
Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't remember greeks engaging in human sacrifice.
>>69016715
better than islam
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/demon-nigger-69
>>69025782
That doesn't answer the question.
Didn't they slaughter lots of people in the Old Testament?
>worshipping an elf
AHAHAHA HAHAH AHA HAHAHA
>mr imagniary
oh wow, they referred to a pagan godess by name, but call Jawsus "imagniary"
these people are not about atheism or respect, they are anti-christian.
Utter disgusting and vile creatures, Id take any Elf over a liberal.
>>69016715
>GERMANY BTFO
Too bad your culture is dead.
>>69025766
Didn't pagan cultures value submission to authority?
Didn't they have those things in China and Shinto Japan?
>>69025438
Do you have citeable examples of the Mari El sacrificing humans, or of the Basque sorginaks? I haven't found any.
>>69022345
>minority joins -> doesn't assimilate -> minority becomes majority -> Muslims dominate
FTFY
>>69017806
>mormons hate halloween
they most certainly do not
they all go trick or treating and also have their own 'trunk or treats'
>>69025964
European pagans had a lot more say in who ruled them, traditions the English clung to for years after conversion to lesser degree until the French removed it from you.
>>69025868
>Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't remember greeks engaging in human sacrifice.
You are wrong. Their myths talk about it in plain unambiguous language.
>>69025221
Nice proof you have there anglo
>>69025162
GODS N SHIT INNIT
>>69026247
>Their myths talk about it in plain unambiguous language.
Like?
>>69025964
>Didn't pagan cultures value submission to authority?
Continental germanic tribal chiefs and kings were also pretty much their tribe's religious authority. If he converted to a new religious belief, either in taking on a new patron god or a new religion altogether, his followers also converted by rule of custom. That's how Germany was converted, missionaries focused on convincing the rulers that Christianity was a better choice for themselves and their tribes, and most Germanic kings were converted in this peaceable manner.
Contrast this with Sweden, where a newly converted Norse king started fucking slaughtering everyone who didn't convert, and with the British Isles, who kinda-sorta had the same notion of accepting the kings' and high kings' new religions, but the switches were made mostly for promises of money and mercenaries for their worldly ambitions, and then, of course, there's the Balts and Basque who still had large clusters of pagans all the way to the 18th+ century.
>>69025998
>Do you have citeable examples of the Mari El sacrificing humans, or of the Basque sorginaks? I haven't found any.
Are you talking about the modern-day New Age hippies who self-label as 'pagans' or are you talking about their authentic pre-Christian cultures?
>Wiccans always have to pretend they did everything first
Most obnoxious group on the planet.
>>69026347
Read the Iliad. Or Perseus' myth. Or Heracles'. Or even any old fucking Greek myth that hasn't been bowdlerized by Disney.
>>69026451
The Mari El and the Basque witches are some of the oldest, unbroken pagan traditions. That's why I asked about them, specifically. The Mari El still maintain an unbroken line, I'm not too certain about the sorginaks.
Why would I be asking about modern day neopagans? Of course they wouldn't have human sacrifice, that'd kill their entire hobby.
>>69026508
*Nogs
FTFY
>>69026574
Again i don't remember any human sacrifice there.
>>69021509
>Christian in quotes
>>69026620
>The Mari El still maintain an unbroken line
This is not true. They have been predominantly Christian for centuries. Their pagan tradition has been greatly influenced by monotheism since at least the 19th century.
>>69027499
Okay, but where can I find an article or a paper about human sacrifice traditions?
>>69016715 no proof she ever existed in culture apart from one word by Bede trying to explain Easter's namesake. more likely just named after Jesus' wake, the dawn, Eos and Aurora.
>>69026508
Wiccans are pagans but not all pagans are Wiccan.
>>69028226
Wiccans don't even have any historical claims, they were created wholesale from bits and pieces of poorly understood lore barely a century ago.
>>69028503
Yeah. They're like the Mormons of paganism.
>>69021319
This. Hence their overwhelming love for scheiße porn.
>>69028503
Wiccans boomed in the 70's. In Britain Paganism is the fastest growing religion among natives but its dominated by wiccans who are essentially hippies. You get men who are huge body builders who look the very image of a Viking or Anglo-Saxon who are very tribal focused and right winged but for every one you get 10 wiccans who keep yelling "ANYONE CAN BE GERMANIC PAGAN, PAGANS FOR LGBT+, PAGANS FOR OPEN BORDERS" Its killed the appeal for the more conservative, traditional style of paganism
WE
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