Jesus was a communist?
>haha stop talking about God he isn't real except when he fits my narrative
Also I don't remember a bible passage about trickle down economics
>>69004464
Jesus said give to the poor, not give to the government to divide amongst the slothful.
>>69004464
This shifty pope Francis does not stand up to corporate anything. He kisses Muslim feet and pushes migration. These deluded fucking comics.
>>69004575
If you believe all the Marxist kikes who hate Jesus, yes.
>>69004464
Christ was no communist, though he did chase the money changers out. Take a wild guess who they are, and fuck the pope. I hate it when atheist marxist who don't even follow the bible try to twist shit to their own purposes.
>>69004704
Didn't he say something about giving Cesar his due?
>>69004600
They don't, I believe the intent is to suggest many Christians are a bit hypocritical when it comes to money and faith. The idea is to make you consider your own motives and faith I think.
>>69004464
One of the worst fonts I've ever seen.
Jesus was not a political figure and we have a bill of rights. Why are you acting stupid on purpose?
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us; we were not idle when we were with you, 8 we did not eat any one’s bread without paying, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not burden any of you. 9 It was not because we have not that right, but to give you in our conduct an example to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: If any one will not work, let him not eat. 11 For we hear that some of you are living in idleness, mere busybodies, not doing any work. 12 Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work in quietness and to earn their own living. 13 Brethren, do not be weary in well-doing.
14 If any one refuses to obey what we say in this letter, note that man, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Do not look on him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
2 Thessalonians 3:6–15
/thread
>>69006545
>What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and eat your fill,” and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. Do you want to be shown, you senseless person, that faith apart from works is barren? Was not our ancestor Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was brought to completion by the works. Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,” and he was called the friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. Likewise, was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another road? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is also dead. James 2:14-26
Sorry bud. Your faith is worthless
>>69004575
>>69004897
Not communist
He was a Socialist
>>69006431
liberals think Jesus ever said the words "trickle down economics" just fuck my shit up senpai
>>69004575
He was for helping the poor no matter what
He gave free fish and bread to many people
He cured Lazarus and other people for free
He taught the apostles for free
He sure wasn't a Republican or conservative
>>69006985
This to be sincere.
He respect private property, secular states, and commerce. But he took an extremely dismal view of rich people and markets, and felt disgust rather than anger at the wealthy. Christ said we should distrust the rich and look to Him to save us, rather than money. Christ was the kind of guy who snickered at the back of the rich, and then do his own shit independent of them. This is also how the Church treated the aristocracy as well.
Then again, the Republican Party is entirely dependent on the goodwill of Christ, so IDK how they will manage if they shitcan him.
>>69006919
Nice shitpost, except the only way to reconcile those two passages is help those who work hard but are still poor, not the pieces of shit who are fully capable of providing for themselves but instead sit on their ass and take advantage of other people's compassion.
>>69004600
Jesus was most likely a real person, but that doesn't mean God is.
>>69007198
Christ would be Conservative, but not Republican.
>>69007419
Libertarians can't be Christians Weedman. You cannot serve both God and Money. And we both know who Libertarians kneel to .
If you want to be a Libertarian, pick a different faith, then burn in hell.
>>69005206
>They don't, I believe the intent is to suggest many Christians are a bit hypocritical when it comes to money and faith. The idea is to make you consider your own motives and faith I think.
lol
>>69004464
Lol Jesus was a socialist amirite guys? Capitalism sucks, bernie 2016
>>69007198
Yup, he's one of those cultists
>>69007530
>statists can't be Christians statist. You cannot serve both God and state. And we both know who statists kneel to .
>>69007537
If the Refugees renounced Islam and converted to Christianity, the Church would then be compelled to provide for them. But as Mudslimes its fair game.
>>69004464
To be fair, religions say exactly whatever the person believing them wants them to, so it's very difficult to argue there is a real contradiction here.
>>69007659
You brought the state up, not me. The point is to distrust and despise greedy motherfuckers like yourself.
>>69007659
>You cannot serve both God and state. And we both know who statists kneel to .
Depends on what Christian cult you're talking about. I was raised Catholic and Catholicism is very statist. But many protestant sects are less so.
>>69004575
>Jesus was a communist?
Jesus did not exist. But early Christianity was communist because Jewish religious communities were communist.
>Acts of Apostles: trying to explan away having Sapphira and Ananias killed because they did not offer up everything they had to the community.
>Thomas Müntzer announcing that Omnia Sunt Communia
>II. Vatican reasserting the claim that the right to shelter and food overrides the right of property.
And so on. So it's kinda yes.
>>69005255
jesus was a mutualist/traditionalist
>>69007851
I've actively renounced my love of money. I hope many Christians can join me.
>>69004464
>and lo Jesus did sayeth "Trickle-down economics doesn't work. Thou shalt heed the wisdom of Keynes and breaketh thy neighbour's windows."
I don't remember that sermon.
>>69004464
Love comics like this.
>>69007974
>Jesus did not exist. But early Christianity was communist because Jewish religious communities were communist.
Actually it was literally the exact opposite of Communism, nothing was held in common, all land and everything else was privately owned.
Please fucking stop, I am begging you to quit spreading lies and misinformation.
http://www.wrs.edu/Materials_for_Web_Site/Journals/15-1_Feb-2008/Battle--Property_Rights_Responsibilities_in_OT.pdf
>>69008047
That's not a get-out-of-jail card for being Greedy. Americans keep forgetting this.
>>69006985
Socialism is just a step towards communism. Neither of these labels apply to Jesus.
>>69008090
You know the whole thing about breaking windows is more about the absurdity of a market economy's inherent tendency toward demand deficiency than it is about actually breaking windows, right?
>>69007198
Yeah but he didn't say the government should do it, genius. He did it himself. He didn't sit and cry to petition the government to help the poor.
>>69006985
>Not communist
>He was a Socialist
He didn't every say anything about social hierarchies, property rights or means of production. He was neither a communist nor a socialist.
The closest he came to leftism was denouncing rich people and calling them immoral for not helping the poor and also telling the poor that they are more moral for enduring the suffering on this earth.
>>69007974
>Jesus didn't exist.
Stop this meme.
>>69008298
Christ allows for private property,
>>69008578
Let me tell you something. There are but a handful of pastors left who would truly be interested in solving the problem of poverty in America. More importantly, the affairs of the State are independent of the affairs of the Church. Alot of greedy fuckers somehow want to use Jesus as a 'get-out-paying-taxes' card. And I mean. A-L-O-T. If the State raises taxes, take it up with it. They are seperate entities.
>>69008665
This. Although I'd argue we call it 'Socialism' if we actually preached the Gospel.
>>69008665
But let's be clear. Loving Money is a straight ticket to Hell in the Bible. And if this doesn't sound very appealing, now you know why people don't like the Religion.
>>69006985
> being this ill informed
Incidentally, you know who's a trickle down economy?
Germany.
One of the lowest corporate/business tax rates in the world. They tax the shit out of the working people instead. Most successful economy in Europe, if not the world.
>>69008101
Not even a leftist but the comic is retarded on so many levels. Let's see:
1. Socialists for all their faults, don't pretend to be economists. They have their own field called Sociology where they do most of their work. This is much unlike Austrians and other libertarians that are the true charlatans when it comes to economics. Unsurprisingly they are prominently displayed there.
2. The definition of socialism is wrong. Not surprising.
3. "muh bureaucracy" argument is disproved by the countless successful big government initiatives all over the world; it is also disproved by the countless cases of failed privatizations that only rendered the services more expensive and shittier than they were already
Intellectual honesty was really never the strong point of the typical economist shill though.
>>69008578
He wanted the jews to do so, the government doesn't count because at the time they were under foreign occupation but he wanted to reform the church and the priests which were part of the ruling class
>>69004464
1. Jesus never said anything about economics
2. the pope is not an economist and just because he says something doesn't make it true
and lastly 3. trickle down economics doesn't exist. its a bastardized version of supply side economics which doesn't even take into consideration the 1%.supply side economics simply asserts that if people have more money they will consume more, the more people consume the more the economy grows, so government should adjust its policies accordingly without crowding out the other sources of GDP like it has been doing for the last century.
>>69007198
>>69004464
philanthropy(giving) is is a trait of the noble, ruling class. Socialism(taking) is a trait of tugs and thieves.
>>69009271
I don't think they're successful anymore.
>>69008880
Not in the sense of being a singular person who performed all event ascribed to him.
Christian Biblical scholars will agree on at most two events having occurred: Baptism by John the Baptist and crucifixion. However other details were likely pulled from surrounding stories and other individuals, and whether those two events relate to the same person is not certain.
It's very much like saying Santa Claus is real. There are very much real people that help originate the myth who were then combined and their story embellished. Yahweh himself was fused likely fused with the Canaanite god El early on (among other which is why Yahweh has multiple names). Yahweh even likely had a wife, Asherah, who was later written out of Canonical Judaism.
>>69009271
Their labor force is also heavily Unionized and they protect their exporting capacity through a state-managed industrial policy.
I bet now you think Germany sucks again.
>>69009483
Right wingers keep changing their opinions like Liberals, because Right Wingers sold their principles for $$$. This is why I say I'm conservative, though not necessarily Right Wing.
>ascribing Jesus to political conventions
smells like heresy
>>69008665
>He didn't ever say anything about social hierarchies
except all the time
>property rights or means of production
neither do modern socialists
>>69009419
>the pope is not an economist and just because he says something doesn't make it true
However if you're Catholic you're obliged to follow CST and CCC and both of them are supportive of welfare programs.
That was also always the case. It's not some new idea this new Pope came up with.
>>69009344
>Socialists for all their faults, don't pretend to be economists.
They just want to make economic policy
>3.
I'd like to see your examples.
>>69007356
>But he took an extremely dismal view of rich people and markets
no, he held PHARISEES in disdain, not the rich in general.
and he didn't dislike the pharisees for their wealth either, he disliked them because they were pompous cunts with a holier-than-thou attitude.
context fucking matter you leftist retard.
>>69009852
>except all the time
Post an example.
>neither do modern socialists
There's no such thing as "modern socialists". If you mean liberals or democrats, say so. These groups have differing political objectives.
I'm a Christian Democrat. I'm not a socialist. I very much like capitalism, property rights and markets and don't think that workers should get to dictate all that happens within the economy.
That faggot Bernie should really off himself.
>>69009458
My based orthobro here is right.
>>69008346
Socialism is more like applied communism. Communism really is an unattainable ideal.
Christianity and free market economics work perfectly together. If person A wants to give person B money out of Person A's own free will, without a threat by the government, then Person A is adhering to free maket economics. Charity does NOT equal communism. Communism is state ordained charity.
>>69010114
>he disliked them because they were pompous cunts with a holier-than-thou attitude.
So because they were republicans...I mean rich
>>69010114
>"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Matthew 19:24
He clearly disdains wealth. I'm absolutely fucking shocked that Christians are so ignorant of their faith they don't understand this. But it's also why Christianity is dead. The Christians themselves don't understand their own Messiah. (And that's why the Muslims are winning as well.)
The very fact that the pope befriends political leaders counts him out as a true god fearing man. Jesus never made friends with pilate or ceasar. He told people to not be any part of the world. Just worry about serving God. A true christian knows NO man can save humanity. have all faith in God. Dont give any to sinful man.
>>69009109
being a capitalist doesn't mean you love money you simple minded idiot.
>>69009458
>Socialism(taking) is a trait of tugs and thieves
Guess how nobles got rich in his times and next thousand years. They took (commited socialist act) spoils of war and land to collect taxes and secured this right for their descendants. Oh, no, it turns out nobles were socialists all along!
>>69010382
>>69010382
>Charity does NOT equal communism. Communism is state ordained charity.
What's the difference with the son of God, the maxium authority in the universe, telling you to do charity or face punishment? (being exluded from heaven)
>>69008974
Got any proof? Where did you get that from? The Bible doesn't go into that much detail.
>>69009373
Protestants are now more corrupt than the Catholic Church they accused of the same. I've seen the Rolls Royces of the mega pastors. I've seen how rich Joel Olsteen is. But their bastardization of Christianity won't change Jesus' teachings.
>>69008047
The problem with Charity is that most people don't give directly they give to an organization, which is the same fucking thing. Oh you give to your church? Do you actually snoop into how much of that money you give to your church goes towards helping the poor and disabled? Oh you give to United way/some other charity? Same thing.
and that's for the people who DO give. A lot of people just plain don't give anything, they leave that responsibility to someone else. Charity is a "pass the buck" thing. "Oh you're disabled? Well someone should take care of you.. but not me, someone else"
and that's assuming you're even compassionate enough to think Disabled people should be cared for. Some of you just think Disabled people should be executed.
Yeah that's great. Murdering people who haven't even committed a crime, I'm sure Jesus is on board with that.
>>69009887
no you aren't
the church is only an authoritative body on matter of faith and religion, nothing else.
>>69010028
>They just want to make economic policy
Actually for the most part they believe the political system is corrupt beyond hope and they mostly stay in their little corners discussing esoteric make up bullshit.
>I'd like to see your examples.
There's countless. Off the top of my head.
1. Look at top lists for efficient health care systems worldwide. You'll see France and Italy and other countries with what is effectively a government run health care system at the top. Then you will see the Netherlands and the US market based systems at the bottom.
2. Privatization of rail, anywhere it happened in Europe results in it being both by the state run company of another nation. Then the cost goes up. The service barely improves.
3. China, South Korea and pretty much all "economic miracles", all of which were command economies. That includes post-war Europe and US too.
>>69010492
I would agree. But again. Businessmen love to use Jesus as a 'get-out-of-taxes' card. They tell the US government that since they trust Christ, they can be as greedy as they want and still be saved.
Look. In the long run, our future will be without Christ because Christians have so utterly got their doctrine wrong. And it shows. St. Ronnie is not in the Bible.
>>69010634
We are talking about American Christianity, which is dying so fast that Cruz's head is spinning. The Religious Right is a middle class religion, and in a society of 'managed decline,' there is no Middle Class.
>>69010673
If only there were enough men like you to kick out the "Profit Prophets."
>>69004575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65C367hCVI
>>69004464
No conservative or capitalist has ever promoted anything called "trickle down economics". Typical Marxist strawman.
>>69010840
>efficient health care systems
Meaning what exactly? The US system is the most effective and as such it's not wonder many patients come in from abroad for treatment.
>>69010498
Right, because no property has ever been honestly obtained.
>>69010398
republicans aren't the only group with moralist hypocrites.
>>69010415
again, context matter.
he was talking about uncharitable rich men.
>>69010749
>the church is only an authoritative body on matter of faith and religion, nothing else.
Do you even know what Catholic Social Teaching is? I guess not. There are no real Catholics in America. You guys are really Protties.
>>69009109
Loving money above God isn't the same as not being allowed to make money
>Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life
>>69011175
Here's something that'll really blow your fucking mind though. Apparently Christ outright believes in the labor theory of value
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt%2020:1%E2%80%9316;&version=NIV
>Show up to work at 8:00 AM
>Get full pay.
>Show up to work at 12:00 PM
>Get full pay.
>Show up to work at 2:00 PM
>Get full pay.
You cannot serve both God and Money, but you keep trying to say that God and Money will never conflict. When they do, whose side will you be on?
>>69010853
>Businessmen love to use Jesus as a 'get-out-of-taxes' card.
no one is going to the IRS and saying "my taxes should be lower because Jesus"
the government doesn't even care about whether or not some one will be saved after they die you fucking moron. we don't live in a christian theocratic state.
>>69010853
social safety nets are not an ideal method of taking care of the disabled not by a long shot but at the same time it's the only effective way we have of spreading the burden over everyone in a somewhat fair way.
If helping the disabled is purely voluntary, the burden gets shifted onto a much smaller number of people who are willing to do it.
I work in the VA and as it is it's bad enough, there are way too many homeless disabled Veterans out there. It's a fucking tragedy.
.. and without the VA, if we were relying on voluntary contribution alone? We'd be even worse off. People would come home from fighting missing limbs, be unhireable, and just left in the streets to starve.
>>69004464
>give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar.....
>>69011089
I'm talking about conquering a country, killing its current denizens and claiming it as you rightful and legal property. If it sounds like "honestly obtained" to you, than you should welcome your commie boogeymen and warmongers as honest obtainers.
>>69010415
>When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
>But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
>>69011471
So if Caesar wants 90% of your income you should apply.
Especially considering you shouldn't care about material things and being more focused on helping others and your spiritual life.
>>69009109
The love of money is the root of all evil because you can have all your fleshly desires fulfilled through it. It's pretty hard to see Jesus when you're drowning in money and you can have anything you want.
>>69010990
>Meaning what exactly?
Cost vs. performance
>The US system is the most effective and as such it's not wonder many patients come in from abroad for treatment.
You are pioneers in some medical technologies. Nobody denies that. That has no relevance on how efficient your health care is though. Also for your information, many EU countries have programs were they fly out patients to the US/UK to get those pioneering treatments that are not yet available at home. And yes it's free.
>>69011345
Ugh. Wow. There are just too many misconceptions here.
Of course you are correct. Go and make money as you need. But do it in the same way you do other tasks.
>>69011402
You are right. But the thing is that these guys are so ignorant that I can't explain to them that the Christian Church only governs itself. It's supposed to be a transnational organization with a small footprint in every place. The Koran is the book that dictates the Theocracy.
I can't help you here right now.
>>69011400
Bullshit. Absolutely Bullshit. People make huge fortunes and tell the IRS that since they are religious, they don't have to pay taxes, and then they tell their flock, because they are religious, they can own a private jet for personal use.
This is getting ridiculous.
>>69011641
>free
come on
>>69011694
>Ugh
>Wow
Are you memeing?
>>69011366
>15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money?
apparently he also believed that the employer can pay his workers what ever he wants.
>you keep trying to say that God and Money will never conflict.
you're putting words in my mouth now. i never said they would never conflict, i am merely making the case that one can be faithful and righteous while still accumulating wealth.
just because one is wealthy does not mean they love or serve money.
>>69010114
>no, he held PHARISEES in disdain, not the rich in general.
That's why the teachings attributed to him are pharisaic teachings, amirite? Surely the early church, trying to distance itself from its Jewish roots, would not have edited anti-pharisaic hints into the text...
>>69011402
I think this whole "voluntary" bullshit is ethically flawed.
Just by virtue of living in a society you have duties and responsibilities. It's not just about rights.
>>69011694
Televangelists are the absolute worst. They scam money out of people and don't pay any taxes because they're a "religious organization", they don't provide any charity, etc.
They're just scam artists.
>>69006985
No unlike Jesus socialists are materialists
>>69011917
Correct, we need to take care of our own.
It's just a shame that when government does it there's so much waste and inefficiency and those who need help can slip through the cracks.
>>69004895
Jesus was a SJW communist pacifist who betrayed his roots. Imagine someone forcing Jesus as messiah down your throat for over 1500 years; then you might understand why some Jews "hate" christian faith.
>>69007537
The issue comes from people pushing some parts of the Bible on society while ignoring other parts in their personal lives. It's the picking and choosing that Christians enjoy so much that bugs non-Christians.
Jesus openly practiced and encouraged state sponsored care for the poor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleaning
>>69011612
Jesus says to pay your fucking taxes
>>69011694
are you literally retarded are just pretending?
the US government, the same government that legalized gay marriage in several states and is trying to legalize it nationally, the same government that banned prayers in school and the teaching of creationism IS NOT going to accept an excuse to not pay taxes based on religion. even pastors and priests pay income taxes.
>>69009109
All I ever hear socialists talk about is money
They love it so much they think it is a human right
>>69011701
It's freer than private insurance. You faggot don't know what you're talking about. I have private insurance now. It's shit. Just a lot of extra bullshit that I have to deal with every year and our taxes aren't any lower than all then all the surrounding countries with free health care. And when I go to the GP I get thrown out of the office in 5 minutes with a recommendation to take a paracetamol.
I get better health care when I'm in vacation in Spain despite being just a tourist.
>>69011835
HOLY SHIT.
I give up. I truly do. Re-read the lesson again. Or, more importantly, just leave the Church. Jesus is your wrong god.
>>69011958
Users like G7lgpJDO) are why Televangelists can get away.
>>69011995
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A14-26&version=NIV
Not even. Jesus talked about money all the time.
>>69011958
they still pay income tax
>>69012052
>so much waste and inefficiency and those who need help can slip through the cracks
It often occurs because businessmen use government machine to accumulate wealth. Secure contract here, start a war there, bribe useful people, etc.
>>69011612
Look bud all he said was to follow the law in accordance with the common good. He's literally just saying you should be a lawful citizen.
>>69012333
>its freer than private insurance
You fucking what? I'm sure the enormous tax rates in these countries are just pennies compared to the cost of something most Americans get from merely being employed.
>>69012274
The actual Christian response would be to condemn the US government and try to teach people the errors of their ways, even if the State is against them. (That's how Christianity spread through Rome. Their wasn't an election. It was just persuasion.)
But again. IRL I rarely, if ever, talk about Christ, because Christianity has been so corrupted its dying.
>>69012410
Again, You speak well beyond what many people are willing to admit.
>>69012357
its right there in the passage fag.
>13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
>Users like G7lgpJDO) are why Televangelists can get away
i hate televangelists as much as the next guy but they still income taxes. just because the business they work for is counted as a non-profit is irrelevant
>>69011694
>ugh
>wow
go back
>>69011641
>free
>tax rates at almost 50% over everything
Still good though.
>>69012591
>The actual Christian response would be to condemn the US government and try to teach people the errors of their ways, even if the State is against them.
i won't disagree with you there.
>Christianity has been so corrupted its dying.
because of protestants.
Some comments to the thread from someone who has a background in Theology.
The core message of Jesus Christ is actually economic and political. What made his ideas revolutionary at the time (and now more so today) is their political and economic content. Since the actual ideas of Jesus have such huge political and economic implications they have been diluted, subverted, and avoided in our time.
Here is the core message of Jesus: "Debt structured society is the core evil in this world, this society must be changed, debts must be forgiven." Because of how dangerous this message is, it has been transformed. When people think of Christian Forgiveness they think of it in response to Sins or Wrongdoing, rather than what it was intended to mean (Debt Forgiveness). The attempts to focus Jesus's message as apolitical and personal were successful. I kind of wonder how people do not notice this, especially when the term "debt forgiveness" exists.
Jesus was executed not because he claimed to be the Son of God or anything like that, but because of his political message. The entire society he lived in (and the one we live in today) was structured on Debt and indebtedness. People worked due to bonds of debt and were often not free.
This is why Christians were not allowed to engage in money-lending and why Jews took control of banks.
>>69012707
Don't make threats you can't enforce.
>>69012683
You love money too much to have faith.
>"So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
Jesus states outright that economic productivity is irrelevant in the Kingdom of Heaven, which is why he brings up the Labor Theory of Value. It has nothing to do with value.
>>69012539
You'd be wrong then. It's also a matter of basic statistics.
You're basically saying that a smaller insurance pool should lead to cheaper insurance than a large insurance pool. That makes no sense.
>>69012861
>because of protestants.
sorry that we aren't raping enough children
>>69005206
>Didn't he say something about giving Cesar his due?
Modern governments are much greedier than Caesar.
>>69004464
Eh, Jesus was only outraged by usury.
Other than that, he wanted people to be self-sufficient and take personal responsibility.
>>69012882
>Since the actual ideas of Jesus have such huge political and economic implications they have been diluted, subverted, and avoided in our time.
Talking about Usury in Christianity would be Nuclear-Tier for people today.
Nevertheless, the biggest losers of the Death of Christianity will be the Religious Right and Business Republicans, to gain of Donald Trump (and also Fascism, to be frank,)
>>69013193
This is why Christian pews are empty. The Religious Right is a Middle Class religion, and when Corporate shipped away all the factories, the Middle Class withered and died. Now there is a vast poor class of people in Dixieland, the Corn Belt, and Appalachia, and they won't be jumping through Evangelical hoops anymore.
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>>69013029
Pool size doesn't matter when it's a closed market. Don't be foolish. There's no incentive for competitive pricing in your scenario.
>>69007851
I don't love money. I love being able to keep what I work for and not have to scrape by because the government is taking %28 of my paycheck after all is said and done.
>>69014056
That's different, because you are suffering and you need enough money to survive. And if the government isn't doing enough to help you out, then I understand why you shouldn't have to pay them 28%.
But the problem is that when I go up to the Waltons and call them out on their greediness, will you take the bullet for them?
>>69004704
Well played, sir.
