am i the only libertarian voting for trump? why do libertarians hate trump?
>>68960888
Real libertarians don't hate trump, get with the program
I am
don't like his stance on social security/tariffs but agree with most everything else. only other option is cruz but he's a weasel
>>68961032
>tariffs
When you have trade agreements that only benefit the very rich, you don't have free trade.
>>68961032
I will eat all of that senpai
left-libertarians dont care about borders or jobs or economic national independence.
>>68961197
how do you suppose tariffs do anything but protect the rich at home who don't want to compete with foreign companies while hurting the little guy through increased costs on goods
Will trump soften on the mass surveillance stuff? I mean I wouldn't mind if the Internet was cleaned up just don't trust anyone to do it
He's blatantly big-government in expenditures and reach. You're a lolbertarian, not a libertarian.
Why would a librarian have a special affinity for trump?
He doesn't seem like a big book guy
>>68960888
What get's me are the Bernie Sander's Libertarian supporters, i laugh at how stupid they are for not seeing the incompatibility of Libertarian-ism, and Socialism, they are essentially opposite.
>>68960888
Trump will audit The Fed
he knows what's up and why money is worthless now. he knows about money printing and fractional reserve banking. That alone is enough
>>68962193
Foreign policy wise Trump is by far the most libertarian. This is how I know libertarianism is jew infested. When push comes to shove they have no problem fighting desert wars.
muh roads
>>68960888
Have you seen what Molyneax has been saying lately?
You really think Libertarians won't vote for Trump? lol
Libertarian here.
MAGA
He may not be the smartest guy in every field, but he certainly knows how to handle the economy for the benefit of the working class. Which is what we seriously need.
>>68960888
we wuz somalians n green snakes n roads n shiet muh yellow snek flag
t. lolbertarian
>>68962521
ONE FUCKING DOLLAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7XJIioZEgQ
>>68962521
>Canadian
>voting for Trump
Not an argument.
>>68960888
Libertarian here that voted for Trump. Here's the way I see it. Our current political system would never be able to change anything and Trump is a once in a lifechance to put someone from the outside in the office. If Trump can get into the office, then it would show people that candidates from the outside could make it in and thus increase the chances of a libertarian president in the future. And he's 100% correct when it comes to trade. He also seems to be the most sensible on foreign policy too.
Libertarians have the economic literacy of a rock snail, the foreign policy expertise of a gerbil, and the social policy of a dead squirrel. No wonder these faggots suck on the Trump cock
>>68960888
Because he's a centralist and libertarians care more about state rights?
you don't have a choice....
hillary, trump or marx, i'd go for trump
>>68960888
Here
Voting for Trump is an act of self defense
Im not an open bordersfag, well not as long as we have a basic income and even then.
>>68960888
I'm voting for Trump. Even though isidewith says I'm 91% libertarian, I disagree with libertarians on a couple of issues that are really important to me.
>>68962763
>If Trump can get into the office, then it would show people that candidates from the outside could make it in and thus increase the chances of a libertarian president in the future
This. Except i want a Paleocon in office
I just want to see the establish get fucked at their precious convention the same way that they fucked Ron Paul in 2012. I also want to see them forced by their constituents to allow open carry firearms at the convention.
It's not about Trump for me, I just want to see the GOP devoured by its own creation. It's pure revenge for me at this point. The hypocrisy, the pandering to money, Jews, and any special interest group that you need in order to get elected, the hollow rhetoric promising guns, low taxes, and big spending on the military. I've just had enough.
I see this as hitting the self destruct button on it all. The GOP is beyond salvation.
>>68962193
Nobody even remotely small government in their principles has a chance at getting the nomination in the current environment. Trump has talked about cutting departments to help fix the budget and since he doesn't owe everybody so he might actually be willing to do it. Busting up the GOP establishment is also helpful.
>>68960888
alex joens likes trump so hes antiglobalist
>>68960888
libertarians don't like him because he is an authoritarian. He is the worst when it comes to internet security of all the candidates. As well as advocating for the increased militirization of the police force. Some libertarians like that he isn't politically correct but on every other issue he is like the opposite of what a libertarian stands for. I think libertarian has come to mean "republican but like... more, and like... even LESS taxes..." in the United States. I mean, why do you support him exactly? As a libertarian?
>>68964030
There's lots of truth to this. I voted libertarian before and generally identified as once, but I like Trump. So I guess I'm a Libertarian voting for Trump, but just like he said
>Republican but, like, more, and even LESS taxes
>>68964030
I'm libertarian when it comes to the inside of our country's border. I have no interest in open boarders, because then communists and socialists flood in and change the politics.
Take that for what you will.
>>68960888
I had to change my party affiliation from Libertarian to Republican so I can vote for Trump in PA's closed primary.
Registration deadline is Monday if anyone else needs to do the same.
>>68960994
actually it is the exact opposite, fake libertarians who are just general conservatives looking for a special term for themselves support trump. If you actually subscribe to anti-authoritarian ideas in general, then you are making a shit ton of mental leaps to support Trump imo.
>>68962364
no they are not, you are combining two things there. Bernies Sanders is incredibly civil libertarian, but incredibly economically authoritarian at the same time. But since economic freedom is more emphasized in the United States, I can see how you would why they seem like they opposite.
As an aside, Milton Friedman has proposed a negative income tax idea which works like a minimum guaranteed income, which is as socialist as it gets. He however, is a libertarian.
Different people can have different ideas about different things but fall generally in a category if they tend to support ideas within that category in general. Also the global system is constantly in flux, and ideas are always changing and shit
>>68964229
yeah, and I don't really think there is anything wrong with that or anything, but there is a lot of confusion I've noticed around how a magazine like Reason is sort of becoming anti-trump(aside from it's Koch brothers connections). I've noticed a lot of conservatives losing faith in the libertarian label when they didn't realize they weren't really libertarians in the first place.
It was actually similar when Bush was in office, Reason magazine criticized the shit out of him, and so a lot of liberals thought they were libertarian. Until Obama got elected and Reason piled onto him. Kinda interesting
>>68965168
I blame that political compass for the Reddit "left libertarians"
>>68964473
Nonsense, Trump wins nomination splinters republican party. Libertarian candidate gets at least 15% support they get to make it on stage in presidential debate.
Alternatively he galvanizes enough support to win and accomplishes his goals in four years and leaves.
I'm a libertarian who believes that liberals need to have the shit kicked out of them again. Fuck them. Let's get a caudillo like Trump in office to fuck them up for eight years
>>68960888
I'm a libertarian, and Trump is not a libertarian, but I am voting for Trump. I would vote for Rand or Ron Paul over Trump straight ticket but I don't gaf about their whining otherwise.
>>68964858
I would vote for Bernie over Hillary, and half of the GOP candidates with a gun to my head. I would vote for probably rato over Bernie but before both I would vote for Gary Johnson.
>>68966182
yeah, the way I rank it is Rand Paul>Gary Johnson>everyone else>shit+aids with garbage juice>>>>>>>Hilary Clinton
>>68966545
Oh yeah squeeze Bernie in there between Johnson and everyone else, my autism flared up omitting that
I'm primarily libertarian with some bleeding heart economic positions (specifically social safety nets) and sane limits on individual wealth/power.
The main problem I would have with a Trump presidency is he comes with the Republican party. Maybe they'll adjust for the better by following Trump's example, but the party has just been such complete shit for at least 15 years now.
>>68967014
>he comes with the Republican party
They hate him
>>68960888
I'm a libertarian and I think he's lulzy as fuck.
I like him.
>>68967369
I know. I wish that was enough, but in practice it's going to be trouble. The current state of the house is a national embarrassment. I don't know how it can be fixed. The Freedom Caucus type incumbents need to be replaced, but on the other had a Clinton presidency with house control is equally terrifying.
