Netherlandian hippies BTFO
Fuck bicycles and fuck solar energy and especially fuck combining those
>>68859832
uhhh why arent these things tested in the climate in a testing center before actually using them?
>>68859874
Because it's the future!!
>>68859874
Because we can't account for how much disgusting humans are destroying the climate, if we had UN imposed carbon taxes those panels would still be working.
>>68859947
DUDE
SOLAR
FREAKING
ROADWAYS *boong rip*
Netherlanderthals btfo
>>68859874
It's not about being functional. It's about prolonging the myth of progress and giving progressives warm feelings of superiority.
>>68859947
Fuck of cunt we have not have cold winters in decades
>>68859832
so what exactly is a solar road? is it like a solar farm that uses road space and only bikes are allowed on this road?
>>68860152
two seconds on google
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU
>>68860073
Jokes on you faggot. According to al gore we won't have any cold winters any more. Win win for us.
>>68859874
come on it's 2016
>>68860202
This
>>68859832
>Fuck bicycles
what kind of rabid imbecilic ideologue does a person have to be to hate bicycles?
>>68859947
It's much more harmful to make an electric car and make solar panels than it is to have cars driving around in a city that's not in a valley or has an inversion issue.
>>68860202
/thread
>>68859947
Hiroshimoot pls ban all leafposters
It's getting out of control
>>68859832
are you that stupid? it's just cracked ice.
>>68860257
This anon is correct. You would see a lot more spider-web shattering along the glass if it were the panel that broke.
There is literally nothing wrong with bicycles. More people on bikes means fewer cars and less congestive traffic.
>>68859832
Would it have killed them to raise the solar panels and use them as shade instead?
>>68860225
Bikes are for pussies.
>First the Dutch meme panels blow up
>Next, Dutch cities will be blown up by ISIS
>>68859832
That's a poorly made knock off shame on you yurpoors. It looks like you guys put a solar panel on the ground and put a plastic panel over it. The solar roadway is still in progress but you had to rush it to be innovative
http://www solarroadways.com/Product/Features
Here is a real solar road company making real solar panels
>>68860114
This post = best post.
Government doesn't build things to function. Government builds things to stick its face in front of TV cameras for a brief moment. If it breaks once then you get to build it twice, which is twice as good for the government's purposes.
>>68859874
Because it's solar FREAKING roadways!
>>68860225
Probably a commuter who has had to sit behind them in traffic.
They're fine in areas with bicycle lanes but fuck those guys who ride their bikes on two lane roads and expect you to sit behind them.
>>68860202
Now that is some quality Aussie shitposting
>muh solar power
What a bunch of dumbshits. There is absolutely no point in having solar power in a northern wintery climate where it's snowy/cloudy 8 months of the year. Plus angle of incidence from the suns rays make it inefficient as fuck.
>>68860192
>6 minutes to have to watch a video
no thanks
>>68859874
>not spending your entire budget on inefficient systems that sound super eco-friendly so that the hippies and women will vote for you
YOU DON'T WANT TO DESTROY OUR BEAUTIFUL EARTH DO YOU? I WANT MY WIFES SON TO ACTUALLY HAVE CLEAN AIR TO BREATH YOU RACIST
>>68860328
Drunk bicyclists would sever their limbs on the supports, and the liabilities they create would be more expensive than replacing every panel every month.
>>68859832
GO NUCLEAR OR GO HOME
IF YOUR COUNTRY DON'T HAVE MORE THAN 70% OF ITS ELECTRICITY COMING FROM NUCLEAR, UR A KEK
If not solar power, what are some other /pol/ approved sources of power that are nearly limitless?
>>68860413
It's not the same creator of the road ways op posted
>>68860406
but anon that's why the oil companies are making global warming to make the sun shine brighter and make more solar
with ulimit solar, they rule the world now :(
>>68859832
>fuck solar energy
It actually works pretty well on a house by house basis desu
/n/ here. Even the bikefags here know this shit is a retarded waste of money that won't work.
>>68860192
The sales pitch here is full of lies and bullshit.
>>68860152
Road space only, so it is it's own transmission hardware. They have a still retarded, but slightly less so version that's a sidewalk or bicycle path.
>>68860372
If you have fuckheads that are poor and criminal, they will just steal the wires and electronics from the road before that gets to be a problem. I'm not sure if europe has people who are that bad off, but I suppose you guys are up to date on that issue.
>switch to solar energy
>find yourself became a slave of China since they control most of Earth rare earth`s needed for production of panels and accumulators
If you put those panels into the ground, might aswell plant some fucking trees instead.
It's not worth on the long time, trust me.
>>68860388
They are legally counted as a car when on the road and you have to treat them as such
Literally nothing wrong with that
You're only allowed to complain if they peddal slow as shit but then again people in cars do the exact same thing to you but are hauling around at a bare minimum 1 ton can of death instead
>>68860622
While at the same time polluting Inner Mongolia with the mining far more than if we continued to exploit our own fossil fuel resources.
>>68860257
This.
>>68859832
We have a gay sauna called after you, Finland.
>>68860802
>>68860257
>implying that freezing and thawing wouldn't damage the structural integrity anyway and still lead to failure down the line
The quickest way to put an end to this "green energy" lunacy is to force leftists to pay for it with their own money.
>>68860617
so it's just solar panels on a road?
do the bikes transmit energy to them by riding over them or something?
>>68860704
>They are legally counted as a car when on the road and you have to treat them as such
This is why people hate them. Nobody wants to get trapped going 15 miles per hour behind a bike.
>>68860453
>70% of electricity from nuclear
>shovel in millions of muzrats
What could go wrong?
>>68860473
You put solar where the sun shines brightest, wind where the wind blows hardest, hydro where it doesn't fuck up everybody's shit, and nuclear where people are smart enough to not fuck it up. If none of the above apply then petrochemical it is.
Also, varying fuels have varying strengths.
Solar: you can manufacture in one place and deploy in another ready-to-go.
Petro: you can burn the fuel whenever you damn well feel like, as long as you're not underwater or out of oxygen.
Wind: turn metal and truckers into electricity. If you need the metal bad enough, just cannibalize the windmills.
Hydro/geo: if it's there, might as well tap it. This can in fact be over-applied, western USA is full of rivers that were full in the 70s but are now bone dry.
Nuke: burns its own kind of fuel, which happens to put out a shitload of energy.
Any of the above can be fucked up. All of them have been and still are in varying parts of the world. Likewise, they can all have unsuitable locations. Fukushima was an unsuitable location. California is not suitable for petro because its geography looks like a thumbprint and the mountains trap&concentrate airborne toxins.
Anyone seen these things? I hope that I see these being used in the US one day, not just because I think they are nifty and using a renewable resource, but just so I can sit and wait for the guy to literally hack the street to say nothing but "NIGGERS" as far as the eye can see.
>>68860381
I can't not read this in the EEVBlog guy's voice anymore
>>68860453
I wonder who's gonna maintain the plants when WW3/global European civil war starts...
>>68860406
They tried to build large solar-parks in africa/middle east, but these niggers stole everything valuable and destroyed the rest.
>>68860323
>less congestive
Have you ever had a bike in front of your fucking car?
A bike causes more congestion than a hundred cars.
SOLAR
>>68861006
>>68861075
we can still see your typo friend
>>68861095
FREAKIN'
>>68861006
>>68861075
Reposting same shit but without grammar errors.
KEK
>>68861053
>proprietary tech, as far as the eye can see
Just watch, some politician will promise it's open and competitively priced. Then all transparency is abolished and nobody is allowed to even ask.
>>68860872
>so it's just solar panels on a road?
Yes.
>do the bikes transmit energy to them by riding over them or something?
No. There's something experimented with that does that, but it doesn't work either.
>>68860543
it's not hating solar power. It's recognizing that solar panels need to be clean to work, solar panels are expensive, and that roads take up a lot of wear and tear from vehicles.
>>68861053
>>68859832
liberal fags with no clue how engineering works have the most retarded ideas how to fix the world
>solar energy is 500000 more power then we need I saw that on a tv show
>electric cars are the future why would you use bad fossile energy if you can use clean electric energy
fucking faggots I really hate them
>>68861161
>>68861075
And baleeting it!!
Sure as hell no refugee incidents in Cologne, right?
>>68861075
This post explains why solar hasn't changed the world yet. Most sun, least giveafuck.
>>68859874
Someone more than likely knew the bounds of their function and they ran a cost-analysis.
You can either have 100% efficacy for 10 billion, or you can have 95% efficacy for 2 billion.
Replacing a couple potholes tends to be the answer and in all honesty isn't silly or even bad.
As long as the product is, for the most part, performing to expectation and they proceed to repair damaged units without much disruption. Maintenance costs are a thing you know.
By the way:
I have my own personal reason for not using solar. I would be expected to pay a fee larger than my electric bill, and I have no idea where this money even goes. Government promises to save us from giant corporations, then it lets giant corporations write the rules.
>>68861131
>>68861161
Dont bully pls
>>68861339
Simply put, there is no possible way for solar roads to be worth more than they cost. They will be destroyed constantly, and keeping up with it is just a giant payday for whomever holds the contracts.
>cost-analysis
>government
>>68860453
fuck you frenchie, you have had enough smaller incidents at some powerplants of yours. im not against atomic energy, but do you need 60 of them?.i swear, if the immigrants dont destroy europe, your fucking powerplants will.
>>68861053
its such a stupid concept.
basically building a roof over the entire street and putting the panels there would be more cost efficient and practical.
>>68861183
That is a positive at this point though, gives other people time to come up with something just as good at a less expensive price. I'd almost guarantee that there will be several brands of these within the next 10 years and probably home versions within 15-20.
>>68861194
How's that formula for cold fusion coming Achmed, or would you like to continue reliance on nonrenewable resources? You sound just as retarded as some of the faggot coal miners in my state.
I give a fuck if you "keep the lights on", your job is going to be outmoded, all of our jobs are going to be outmoded, start thinking ahead.
How do we know the guy taking the picture didn't hit it with a sledgehammer?
>>68861505
I'm not commenting on the actual solar road so much as trying to dissuade people from assuming if an infrastructure has a pothole, that it wasn't expected to happen eventually. Everything breaks down through use and wear eventually.
We could have roads constructed out of something more durable and harder to damage, but we don't because the price to utility model makes it pointless.
You don't buy computer parts on the bleeding edge because in a year they're be half price and you'll have saved nothing. You buy for purpose when you absolutely need to so there's less wasted money.
>>68861519
IF YOU FEAR SCIENCE GO LIVE IN A CAVE YOU HIPPIE FAGGOT
>>68859947
Why don't you make like your flag and leave?
>>68861423
>screenshot with the actual player controls still visible
Merkel please
>>68859910
Repeat after me. SOLAR. FRICKIN. ROADWAYS
>>68859832
Why not elevate them so they dont get damaged? like on a roof or something
>>68861688
Designated shitty streets?
>>68861570
I'd rather see people get a tax credit for installing solar panels on their rooves and connecting to the government grid.
Or have a company rent roof space from people.
>>68861570
All of these systems fail to account for malice and stupidity. Works in dreams, but not in reality.
>>68861262
>>68861075
you would think the US could use some military force to guard Mid East/African solar panels like they do with oil
I wonder who is behind that not happening?
>>68861570
>putting a roof over all the roads
>practical
Jesus fuck, from the culture that brought us Volkswagen and H&K.
Think about this Germoney. When it is cold out, they will actually emit heat to keep the road from freezing.
>>68860445
>YOU DON'T WANT TO DESTROY OUR BEAUTIFUL EARTH DO YOU? I WANT MY WIFES SON TO ACTUALLY HAVE CLEAN AIR TO BREATH YOU RACIST
T-T-T-T-This is a bad thing in here?
Does Trump eat 20,000$/lb polluted sludge now?
>>68861364
Wait, what? I mean I can understand not wanting to take govt. subsidies to install your own but there is a definite benefit to doing so. Where I am they usually pay for themselves after about 5 years and afterwords last another 10-15.
>>68861599
>green energy is the way
>being this fucking bluepilled
lol nigga, enjoy getting raped per kw becasue you bought into the meme the govt. fat companies are telling you.
>>68861666
>Everything breaks down through use and wear eventually.
This is exactly why roads are supposed to be cheap and basic. We throw them away constantly. The only thing we accomplish by making roads more expensive is funneling taxation money into shady contractors' pockets.
>>68861756
>>68861756
>not being employed as the squeegee man on the DESIGNATED solar streets
do you even 2016?
in all serious though, Imagine how hard it would be to keep the shit off them in India?
>designated solar streets
>theyre shit
POO
>>68860938
In America our nuclear plants come complete with armed security that openly carries AR15's as well as sniper towers throughout the plant. It's majestic. France is so cucked though they probably would just let an Arab walk in and take the uranium to keep from seeming racist.
>>68861570
This has the added disadvantage that when someone strokes out and dies, they will be covering a panel and robbing it of energy it could be harvesting.
>>68861760
That doesn't give biker faggots feelgood vibes though because they only rent two bedroom apartments with their ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend.
>>68861835
Mexico I don't think you know how solar panels are made.
Trolling aside, could they remake these to be stronger against the elements, but still absorb a good amount of energy?
How much energy can these things produce anyway? Is it worth it, long term?
>>68859832
HA, hopefully this isn't an isolated incident.
>>68861194
took the b8 m8
>think how many people work in the energy production business
>how many people operate nuclear power plants, burn oil, and dig coal out of the ground
>how many jobs this will absolutely terminate
If this is going to happen, it will VERY slowly.
>>68861835
It was just a joke Anon. This kind of solar panel system costs more than it makes and is a scam. Liberals are so desperate to convince themselves and the world that they are all sunshine and butterflies that they don't care whether or not their energy sources are actually going to wield any sort of results or not.
>>68860704
What is this bullshit? If it can't drive as fast as a car for as long as a car, then it's a danger to itself and all cars. Which is why I love mandatory minimum speeds, because it cleans the road of all the dross.
>>68861979
Under the best conditions assuming panels never break they'll never make up their cost on their lifetime.
Someone had a good government connection and panels to sell and was able to do it on the taxpayers dime more than likely. Leftyfags who don't into basic engineering decide it's helping and never question it.
>>68861979
>>68861979
Why not just put them on a fucking roof? or elevated in the unused area next to the damn road? would solve 100% of these problems
>>68861959
How are solar panels made? I need info so I can throw it at leftys
Please tell me how wind turbines are made too, if you know. Trump said in his book that they are also filthy to produce and actually still burn plenty of fossil fuel anyway
>>68859832
TEIM TO GO FUL NUKULAR
>>68861339
just throwing this out there, but if one has a failure in design due to climate, they ALL have the same defect.
whats the point? fix the effen defct then release them .... wut kind of engi skools they got there?
>>68860067
T O P K E K
but srsly, this is probably what happend knowing the Netherlands
>>68860453
He's right you know
Better than meme roads
>>68861863
Yeah, because all of the smoke that is produced by coal power plants is just water vapor like what you would see coming out of mouth fedoras. Give me a break dude, it's fucking up the planet, we know it is and we're just being stubborn about getting off of technology that we have been using for the past 150 years.
You're probably the type of nigger that goes out and buys the newest cell phone just because it's the newest and doesn't even begin think about why it costs so much.
>>68859832
I think this is going to be pretty awesome. This kind of stuff is bound to happen but you just use it to improve the design and make tweaks and then eventually it'll work or it'll be proven so shit they'll dump it and move to something else.
>>68862103
Lol dat thorium meme
can we get Ruboto to debunk that shit already?
>>68862074
Obviously, because they are trying to replace roads with it. Roads are already there and take up space. They want to replace the roads with something that makes "free energy" DUDE it wont even take up more space
>>68859947
LOL
>>68862166
Or you could, you know, go steal a few panels off the street at 2am and take it home for personal use
>>68860202
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>68861194
>electric cars are the future why would you use bad fossile energy if you can use clean electric energy
Hardly any of them own electric cars because they're too expensive.
Meanwhile they praise Obama for low gas prices.
Same shit with Liberals and Wall Street.
>FUCK WALL STREET CROOKS
>OBAMA IS A GOOD PRESIDENT, LOOK AT THE STOCK MARKET, HE'S TRIPLED IT
>>68861979
>could they remake these to be stronger against the elements, but still absorb a good amount of energy
Yes, by making it cost several times more. They will still break and the contractor will still harvest everyone's money. And then there's still the fact that northern countries have inferior sunlight, plus the fact that anything you put on top of a panel obscures what little light they have. And then there's snow.
>panels produce heat!
So does the human body, strip naked and sleep in the high mountains next winter.
ok, so when they get fucked up, we just pave over them? probabl better than sending them to the dump which is where I believe they are headed shortly
t. grumpy mainer
>>68859874
Things go wrong. Remember challenger was blamed on the temperature too.
>>68860704
You know what? I don't mind cyclists who treat themselves as cars and follow (largely) the same rules that cars do. It's the cunts who don't follow the rules that fuck me right off. The benders who will go through red lights 'because there's no traffic to stop them', or cunts who don't hand signal. And FUCK those bell-ends who overtake a lorry on the inside and then are surprised when they crash into the side of a turning lorry. Oh, and fuck the cyclists who ride on the road when they're given a cycling path to the side which they're meant to ride on.
>>68860202
>>68860073
>>68862096
However they're made, they probably uses a lot of resources and most likely made in China
>>68862172
It's not a meme. I'm an electrical engineer specialized in nuclear energy. We had the sufficient technology to use Thorium based power generation methods since the early '70s. The only reason we went the way we went is that you cannot use the sideproduct of thorium reactors as the basis for nuclear weaponry.
>>68861959
>implying you would lease roof space from renters
Huh? Only the owner would be allowed to make that deal.
>solar farm company created
>put out an ad for people looking to reduce their energy bill completely free of charge
>new families can lease their roof to the solar farm
>grid expands, power is collected
You own your roof, they own their panels. They pay you to use your roof and expand their coverage network without requiring any government infrastructure.
But, anon, how do they make their money? They don't until their grid is big enough that they actually have a surplus. That'd probably be prohibitive currently because of poor efficiency. But solar power can still advance to improve efficiency.
just let free market dictate
Must've been designed by an italian.
>>68862292
You mean on a faulty o-ring which they knew was faulty and susceptible to cold, yet chose not to properly maintain because DUDE TEACHERS IN SPAAAACE!! bong riiip
>>68862159
Try powering your whole house with a few hampster wheels
sounds stupid right? Wont make enough power?
That's what you're saying you can do with your fucking solar meme panels. "Green" Energy isnt ready, and may not ever be. So get the fuck over it.
Look up the "Roman Warming Period" if youre going to derail this into a retarded fight about human induced global warming. You wont fucking win here
>>68861797
People with even the smallest modicum of economic sense.
>>68862318
Group riders
Riding 20MPH on a 50MPH road
>>68861423
>>68861674
>>68862252
In the event they get fucked up (they can run them over with a steamroller with no issues) you just throw a few more down and snap them back into the grid.
This is also a pretty dope feature about these things, it's literally your powergrid. I'm sure there will be power stations in between that would redistribute power to buildings, but the panels are the actual generators.
Try to bomb all of that away, sandniggers.
>>68862181
There's already a shitload of space serving zero purpose. Meme roads exist entirely to make cronies rich at the public's expense. Roads are the worst possible place to put delicate equipment.
>>68860848
Yes, except the panel isn't actually broken. A layer of ice on top of the panel is broken. The panel will break eventually, but in this instance OP is objectively wrong.
Saying that "Well, it'll happen down the line so I might as well pretend it already did." is lazy and stupid.
>>68862096
There is a lot more issue with solar panel production than CO2 emission. It's primary issue is with toxic chemical byproducts sodium hydroxide and hydrfluoric acid. Furthermore the metals needed to make a solar panel have to be mined (generally from China).
>>68862096
Just take a look at how dirty REM mines are, and you'll figure out why 'green' tech isn't really all that green.
>>68862124
They aren't all subject to the same scenario.
Just because a wall gets penetrated by a truck barreling into it doesn't mean the concrete of the whole wall was faulty. Most of the time, there aren't trucks ramming the wall, so most of the time, the wall is performing to demand.
>>68859832
Whoa. Cool your jets, solar sailor ;-)
>>68862096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMwccb0RvvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZgWC-Cxd44
>>68862369
What about salt reactors now? I understand these can be use and scaled down to much smaller sizes without any real risk associated with poor control conditions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor
>>68860445
See if we can find a German poster who doesn't speak only Arabic and ask them about how all that massive solar investment they made years ago worked out.
And that was before Saint Algore told us all the world would end this year.
>>68862318
>that webm
NO NO NO NO NONONOONONONONONONONO
>>68862495
>(they can run them over with a steamroller with no issues)
>our controlled test with no relation to real situations gave us the result we expected!
People talk about replacing them as if they think replacing them is free. Replacing them is some dipshit's eternal tentacles planted into the public's paychecks.
>>68862159
Most of it is water vapor you fucking retard, modern coal plants scrub most of the sulfur and noxious gasses away. Comparative to the massive amount of resources needed to produce your forests of turbines or coat entire acres of desert.
I like the look of turbines personally but they are nowhere near ready to make even a fraction of the power needed in an industrialized country,
>>68862486
They always fucking ride side-by-side taking up the road (which is illegal). It's never just in 2's or single file.
Cyclists in theory are great, but in reality they're all just dicks. All of them.
>>68862495
simply makes no sense to me to place them on the ground, there's no polymer that can withstand regular traffic on it, plus the obstructions!
>>68862318
>>68862606
It's oddly cute, but fuck ever seeing on in real life.
roads made of rocks and asphalt need regular maintenance, how is this not a complete retarded idea until solar panels are as cheap to make and just as durable as rocks and asphalt
>>68862448
>a few
Nigger, you're going to need a lot more than a few. Though, I don't think you have a very decent idea of how much road there is out there exactly.
2,605,331 miles in the US of pavement.
And I will never submit to the ludicrous notion that we live on a planet with infinite resources. If that were the case, it wouldn't be so much of a competition.
>>68862597
Three key things prevent it from taking hold.
1: People don't want new reactors to be built, which means we're in love with the ailing old reactors.
2: If something is ever built at all, then there will be a thousand retarded bureaucrats imposing their own personal whims upon it. The resulting mess is less safe, less productive, more expensive, and probably canceled before it ever helps anybody.
3: National governments are in love with uranium, because owning a nuke is to the national government as owning a non-nerfed rifle is to the private citizen.
>>68862597
Fire hazard was considered far too large to be justified. There a few dozen solutions to the fire issue, but those roughly double the cost of your would be reactors.
>>68861519
Do you know that nuclear stations throw less radioactive elements to atmosphere that heat ones do?
>>68862579
>That first video
>1:32
>Connected in series
>>68860372
Pls no
>>68862898
Significantly more, coal is like ten times more or something.
But it's ok, since coal radiation is "natural" :DDDDDDDDDDDdédédédédédédédéFUCKINGDÉ
>>68862597
We don't have the materials required to make a long-lasting economically viable LMSR. As it turns out, salt is quite corroding, and replacing everything the salt comes in contact in every 5 minutes is not very practical.
But given China and India are throwing their weight behind MSRs being DA FOOTUR I would guess the west will not be far behind.
>statists refuse to believe that anyone but the state can provide roads
>they still fuck it up
>>68862597
We don't have the materials required to make a long-lasting economically viable LMSR. As it turns out, salt is quite corroding, and replacing everything the salt comes in contact in every 5 minutes is not very practical.
But given China and India are throwing their weight behind MSRs being DA FOOTUR I would guess the west will not be far behind.
>>68861519
But m8, coal power plants release more radioactive materials into the atmosphere than nuclear plants do.
>>68862999
It's too late.
What's to stop niggos from tearing up roads for material?
>>68862318 >>68862606 >>68862782
Looks like CGI
>>68859947
I agree. I would happily be taxed at an additional 20%. We have to take the initiative and be leaders in alternative energy, it will create millions of jobs. You have to be pretty selfish to say that it's "your money". It is doing nothing for the average Canadian, your money that sits in banks. It should be used to invest for the future.
>>68860225
we have plenty of people who hate bikes in finland
I don't have a clue how someone can hate bicycles but then again the same people apparently hate the sun too so go figure
>>68863071
They'll be arres- never mind
>>68863071
They just haven't thought about it yet is all I can figure. They were taking the copper wire from the tornado sirens here several years ago.
>>68862611
Like repaving the goddamn freeway whenever your congress person gets a blowjob from a contractor isn't? Not to mention, we already do this shit all the time. Ever notice that the police departments generally buy Ford and Chevys? Where's the fucking outrage there? On top of the fact that there will be others that come along to compete, I'd say your argument is fucked.
>>68862722
Just a matter of time and research. Once you make enough of them as well, the overall price of them will go down. If they aren't roadworthy as of yet, they should be used in parks, pavilions, places where there is more foot traffic than road traffic.
>>68863172
So your plan is to keep being retarded until someone else takes the time to remove the retarded out of it?
>>68860067
>>68863172
Just out of curiosity what is the highest level of math you have completed?
>>68860977
Hydroelectric power doesn't work that way. The water passes through the dam, spinning the turbine and exits the other side.
Water isn't burned up in the process.
If you are saying that water gets backed up in the resevoir, you need to explain yourself better.
The problem facing dams like Hoover is the over utilization of water by farmers combined with a depletion of water tables and a lack of good snow packs.
>>68860453
Hydroelectricity is the shit, anon.
>>68862831
>DUDE
>We have 2,605,331 miles of FUCKING PAVEMENT
>IT COULD BE SOLAR PANELS
>*sick bong rip* ITS 20FUCKIGN16
Let me guess, Bernie voter? Wall street gonna pay for dem solar roads amirite?
>>68860067
>>68859832
I agree man. FUCK BIKES. FUCK THEM TO HELL. AND FUCK THESE AQUAFRESH FAGGOTS USING THEM. Fuck, I'm still mad and it's been three months since I went into the shithole called Netherlands.
>>68863172
Holy fuck I think you are actually serious
How old are you? I promise I wont report under 18. Tell us about yourself, let me get into that big head of yours
>>68859947
Are you the same Leaf poster that goes around, spamming charts, and going on about how governments with a conservative party at the helm always ruin the economy?
>>68860125
>>68860248
>>68861671
>mfw people post serious responses to an obvious joke
>>68861979
here's a mindblowing idea
take your valuable solar panels (the ones that pollute the environment more than petroleum and aren't very recyclable) and put them somewhere that people WON'T be driving vehicles over them
as in anywhere BUT a roadway/bikepath/walkway
>>68863282
>The problem facing dams like Hoover is the over utilization of water by farmers combined with a depletion of water tables and a lack of good snow packs.
I think that's what he was getting at, the lack of available water for dams through drought and such.
>>68862405
You're just not using them the way they were built for!
>>68861813
>>putting a roof over all the roads
>>practical
The poster said it would be more practical than SOLAR FRICKEN ROADWAYS, not that putting roofs over streets are practical period.
And solar roadways are not fucking practical. They are expensive, prone to failure and very poorly thought out.
Literally ANY other goddamn solar solution is better than driving on them.
>>68863282
he's not wrong, though. Restricting the flow of water dries up rivers in a vicious cycle of increase evaporation tied to decreased vegetation, cause by hoarding water when they should make up for less rain downstream. Flow hydroelectric power is a better propostion anyway, but that's just me.
>>68863593
Stick to plumbing
>>68862831
>2,605,331 miles in the US of pavement.
You're talking about quite literally quadrillions of dollars to remake all the roads in the US in solar roadways assuming each road is two lanes (it isn't)
>>68863311
Fuck no I'm not voting for that self loathing fuck. I have a job, pay my taxes and would like to have some fucking nice things in my country, and would rather it not look like Tienanmen Square on a "bad day"
>>68863231
>Buh? I don't get it, everything else that is new like my cellphone and my cockpump were expensive, why in the fuck is this?
You should know better shithead, the Panama Canal wasn't built in a day. Thank your lucky stars that someone took the retarded out of your country and built that fucking thing or we would still be going around Cape Horn to get our shit.
>>68861813
>When it is cold out, they will actually emit heat to keep the road from freezing.
*RIPS BONG*
>>68859874
Because corruption is the cornerstone of socialism.
>>68860848
Cause no structures of any kind exist in areas that get cold amirite?
Also, a thought: why in the bloody hell is it crystaline panels? Thin film solar panels are essentially perfect for the job, if size isn't the concern. Cheaper, much more weight, impact, and enviromentally resistant, so what the fuck?
>>68863680
I certainly hope you aren't in any position where you're allowed to make decisions.
Your entire argument is based on that coal plants are dirty like it's still 1964. Do you actually know the numbers for how much of what byproducts coal power generation puts out?
>>68859832
>Fuck bicycles
haha no you fat fuck
>>68863813
I would imagine whatever government official knew a guy who would cut him in on the deal had the crystaline panels.
>>68860192
that entire sales pitch is full of shit.
>>68863680
>cellphone appear
>competition drives its cost lower and advances technology
>equivalent to a tech which only governments care about and have to throw credits, loans, and just out right money to even keep existing
>>68863660
>implying that we would cover every actual piece of road with this shit
Ugh...you dense fucks. Cell phone companies can't even give you full coverage and you expect more out of your government? Not to mention, you wouldn't even need to cover all of them to have more than enough power, as well as a more stable power grid.
>>68863618
Could still put them on buildings if they can't manage to make them stand up against regular road traffic.
>>68864101
I don't expect solar roadways at all. What is it with you and fucking cellphones?
>>68860067
>Le Weed Man approves
>>68860453
>>68861670
First time I've seen a french based-poster on this site desu.
>>68863962
>tech which only governments care about
You best be joking nigger. Yeah, no private company would have no interest in these at all. Impossible I tell you!
>>68863866
Yes, the coal burning process has been refined and pollutant, as confirmed by your mother. Doesn't mean that it's the end all be all power source for humanity and we shouldn't be readily pursuing RENEWABLE power sources instead of just sitting there like a stubborn child with shit in their pants.
>>68860406
>tfw not even on the map
Life is gud.
>>68859832
>1 panel malfunctions and gets a bit of water in it that expands and cracks it when it goes below zero
>hurr hippies btfo
You are like a carriage driver that stops and heckles a car driver that has a flat tire.
>>68864279
Just give it a while, he'll dissappoint you like all the others.
>>68864400
The possibility of someone finding a niche application is not a justification for continously dropping money on something the market has shown it has no interest in if there aren't massive tax benefits involved.
I'm a liberal.
I'm an environmentalist.
I believe that renewable power sources are the future.
I don't have a car, and cycle everywhere or take public transport.
I am extremely careful of my personal carbon footprint.
And I don't have a fucking CLUE why people are so hyped about solar roadways.
This is the STUPIDEST possible implementation of solar power.
>Let's string the plants out, making transmission and control infrastructure much more complex and expensive
>Let's put the panels somewhere they'll always be getting covered in dirt and debris, so no sunlight gets to them
>Let's put them in parts of the world that get minimal levels of solar radiation, and almost none during the winter - which is when power requirements are highest
>Let's leave them flat on the ground, rather than angled to absorb maximum solar power
>Let's subject them to intense mechanical stresses from passing vehicles
>Oh, and let's make a road out of something that has to be smooth and flat, which means grip is going to be crap at the best of times and non-existent in icy or wet conditions
Y'all environment haters might feel a bit annoyed that money is being spend on renewable tech, but your rage is nothing by comparison to the feelings these white elephants engender in people who give a shit about the planet.
Fuck solar roadways. Fuck them in their stupid assholes.
>>68864463
Then you pay to replace the panel. When using public money to fund things, they should be cost efficient and durable. They deserve to be heckled.
>>68864400
>as confirmed by your mother
This response means you don't actually know.
>Doesn't mean that it's the end all be all power source for humanity
I never suggested this. A coal plant can take 24 hours to go from offline to functioning. Clearly you need other forms like natural gas which can be online in a much shorter time (6 minutes).
>RENEWABLE power sources
I don't disagree with this but you seem to believe that renewable automatically means cleaner and you're wrong.
>>68864163
Just an easy to relate piece of tech that is the center of many people's attentions. So fragile, so expensive, but they have to have them to shitpost on anime message boards and look at trap porn. Doing something for the betterment of your country? Just fucking stupid.
Fuck it, we should just trash the idea of getting an electric rail system in this country too. Riding Greyhound works and the electric train is just too expensive and excuses, excuses, excuses.
Were going to make America great again folks, lets start making it look great again too.
>>68859832
>solar roadways
>not just putting the solar panels on the SIDE of the rode ABOVE cars
>>68864669
America is a car nation. We should be going nuclear and using electric cars.
>>68864101
Nigger, every structure in your community would have to be made out of solar cells to power the grid. What is it about their absolute shit efficiency and high cost DONT YOU GET?
What is it about their waste production process DONT YOU GET?
What is it about their inability to be recycled
DONT YOU GET?
What is it about their frailty DONT YOU GET?
No, please drive the fuck all over them with cars and 18 wheelers! Its the current year after all also the future!
And you call us dense. You are straight up sharting fairlyland magic dust all over your posts. You fail in every way to look at the big picture of all the things you are bitching about. Your green tech cant power for shit and there is nothing you can do about it, no matter how much of our tax money you want to holocaust. Seriously man, get the fuck over yourself. The math is highly inclined against you, like a 90 degree angle against you.
THEY CANT POWER SHIT
>>68859874
That photo you are looking at IS the test.
>>68864101
>NOT JUST PUTTING THE PANELS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD ABOVE THE CARS
This is the ultimate flaw in this whole project
>>68864799
Who is the fluid druid?
>>68864400
>RENEWABLE
The material needed for solar cells is rare earth metal, which requires much dirty, filthy mining. The Panels dont last forever and cant be recycled, So why dont YOU explain just how the fuck it's "renewable"
>>68864799
..whelp. time to beat off again.
Getting real tired of this.
>>68862292
The temperature is what caused the failure of Challenger, but negligence and poor management is what allowed it to happen. There were engineers saying it was too cold, but the leadership was pressured to launch despite the safety concerns.
>>68864907
>DUDE
>SUNLIGHT
>LMAO
This guy is a fucking day shift manager at Burger King who spends his day being a pseudoengineer on an imageboard during his night life.
> solar energy
> in the netherlands
>>68864845
How about putting the panels in centralized power plants for efficient power control and generation with easy maintenance, and locating them in areas with high levels of solar radiation and benign climate conditions?
>Just asking questions here
>>68864799
Yes because you WASTE THE FUCK OUT OF YOUR ELECTRICITY
>>68864799
What about driving down the cost of a product from competition do you not get? What about research and development don't you get? What is it about the free market you don't get?
I swear, I can see why the Masons and Illuminati were formed, you fucking plebs take a look at something besides a gas combustion engine or a steam driven turbine and chimp out like a fucking caveman in Space Odyssey.
>>68864783
Already are using electric cars, nuclear is a poor option for multiple reasons.
>>68859832
DESIGNATED
>>68865007
Because most people don't live in areas with high levels on sunlight and benign climate conditions, and taking the power to high pop. areas from the solar plants in suitable locations would be stupidly inefficient.
Any single 'green' tech power generation isn't going to cut it. It's why most realist will accept that 'green' tech should be used to top up nukular powa stayshuns.
![gemasolar-2011-2_low_res[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UMfP0bv.jpg "gemasolar-2011-2_low_res[1].jpg")
>>68865007
That too.
>>68865089
Its called having a 1st world country ahmed
>>68859874
lol this is what every engineering project in the deep eu having to be "eco" related often leads to sweet innocent burger.
>>68865124
>multiple reasons
Such as?
>>68865124
>free market
>by getting the government to pay for stupid shit in the hopes that it might make it slightly more economic in the future, but not quite economic enough to actually make this shit worthwhile.
>>68859832
>REEEEEEEEE ITS BROKEN REEEEEEEEE RENEWABLE ENERGY FAILED REEEEEEEEEEEE
I don't see what the problem is. It should be expected wear and tear that some panels will break occasionally and need replacing, that's how all roadways work.
>>68865137
It's horses for courses. Desert cities like Cairo or Las Vegas are well suited to solar power. Places 50° off the equator with crap weather aren't.
And don't forget that industry uses a lot of power, and can often colocate to places where it's cheap and plentiful.
Nuclear, hydro, wind, and geothermal are also good options, along with a heap of renewable sources in varying levels of development. But if there're on power source that is a totally fucked up idea from the start, it's solar roadways.
>>68864907
I concede that they do not last forever, but nothing lasts forever, not even the power plants that are currently powering our homes. We have to figure something out, we just can't keep saying "We can't!" until it becomes a real fucking problem. That is if humanity makes it to the point that it becomes a problem and haven't already been destroyed.
>>68864669
It could be a nuclear train and it would still be a terrible idea because the USA population is extremely spread out. Hell, only the top 10 have more than one million people, and everything below the top 20 is about half a million or less. Your system would need to be ludicrously large to the point it will never pay itself back or benefit anyone, or not being useful for roughly 81% of the population while being merely ridiculously large while likely not paying itself and just benefiting a few people. Such a system just doesn't make economic sense.
>>68865323
Might that be a good argument for not trying to put solar panels where people are driving over them?
(One of a vast number of such arguments)
>>68865124
lmfao
You realize these business are on the life support of govt contracts right?
I completely get the free market, because here is how it works, nigger:
>Hello sir! Vault tec solar panels here, would you like the chance to receive FREE energy and reduce your home's carbon emissions??
>Why yes I would!
>Fantastic! We can start at $10,000 minimum package
>...uhhh....
>Dont worry sir! As long as your panel isnt damaged, you will gain back this small cost over the course of 15-20 years! Think of it as an investment in yourself an-
>*slams door*
Thats why nearly no one has solar panels on their homes idiot. The free market. All the competition in the world cant stop making their production insanely expensive.
>>68859832
Lol, they need thermistor controlled heating foils to compensate atmospheric temperature variation. The heating energy would come from nuclear power.
>>68859832
SOLAR
FREAKING
ROADWAYS DUUUDE XD
>>68865141
solar farms look cool as fuck
>>68865411
Where I live is all solar powered. The setup cost about $500 all in.
>>68865141
There are losses involved in transmitting electricity long distances. So the closer your production is to your consumers, the more efficient it is.
Solar roadways could work, but only if the monetary and ecological cost of manufacturing photovoltaic panels and the process of installing and maintaining them in a roadway could be massively reduced.
>money sitting in a bank does nothing, we (the government) need to invest it
You dumb economically illiterate peasant, where do you think that business loan or mortgage/car loan you get at the bank comes from?
Thats right! From the money people deposit in that bank!
Money doesnt "sit" in some giant bathtub waiting for scrooge mcshekleshine to come swim in it.
>>68859832
PRAISE WINTER-CHAN.
>>68865007
We have them on our commieblocks.
>>68865550
You still have to transmit the power from each point along the roadway to wherever it's going to end up getting used.
>>68859832
>retards actually tried that stupid idea
>>68865362
We invented nuclear power decades ago for fucks sake
>>68865323
Pouring more concrete and installing several dozens of square meters of solar panels are two very different things Kawasaki
>>68865637
>Living in a place with such shit sunlight you mount your panels vertically
I feel your pain, brother.
>>68865227
Nuclear waste for one. The water used to cool the nuclear material in the reactors and generate steam has to go somewhere after it's used, not to mention the nuclear material in the core.
Also, when the shit goes bad, it's not like you can tear it down and build another one. That land is permanently fucked from anybody going near it ever again.
Third, security. Someone blows up a nuclear power plant, you're going to have a bad time. Hasn't happened yet, bet your ass it's coming.
>>68859832
SAVE THE SUN
>>68865714
We have them on the roofs aswell, to get above the snow line and horizon.
Isnt france building like an entire highway out of solar panels?
>>68865553
That's not how it works at all.
When someone takes a mortgage his bank borrows that money from the central bank, which just creates it out of thin air.
Bank pays x amount of interest.
You pay x+y amount.
>>68865637
they half make sense there as there isn't traffic driving on top of it
they still aren't parallel to the sun for maximum efficiency though
>>68865745
>nuclear power plant
>blowing up
It will shut down at any sign of trouble.
>>68860892
Get a motorbike then loser
>>68860192
Made me think back to when i was in my early teenage years and could get hyped up over stuff that sounds great but is complete bullshit in real life.
I have no idea why WE are pushing solar. We are better off pushing geothermal energy or biofuel from pyrolysis
>>68860257
>this one guy gets it right, it's just ice
>most people shitposts anyway
Goddammit, /pol/, no wonder this board gets nothing done today.
All you managed to do recently is to make a chatbot shitpost just like you.
>>68863098
why stop at 20% anon? All Non-americans should be taxed atleast 33% of their income for carbon taxes.
>>68859874
>why arent these things tested in the climate in a testing center
This is the test.
It's cheaper and more realistic to test them on an actual road then to construct a testing center.
>>68865323
>wear and tear
>a road
>on the first day
>made out of fucking solar panels
>too expensive
>increase taxes
>everyone has to work more just to get by
>this ends up making people cause more pollution than it saves
>>68865855
this
a proper Nuclear plant has several failsafes
Chernobyl was slav commie shit and the Jap one was built in a retarded place- a faultline.
If you want to talk about a clean energy source that can advance quickly, its certainly nuclear, not this memetastic solar bullshit
>>68865971
Why bother testing at all when it's so obviously a stupid idea?
>>68861570
or just stick them in a massive field somewhere that gets lots of sun. Like Nevada. Then you don't have to engineer the things to stand up to wear and tear due to being driven on and out in the various elements all the time.
>>68865855
Give a guy enough explosives, I bet he could cause an environmental disaster of likes which we have never seen. Hell, BP did that shit without even trying.
