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Bernie absolutely blown the fuck out?
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Fuck Bernie

Goddamn Trump2016
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the bernout would have me paying about $4000 more every year.
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Sounds like, from the updates, reddit has been crying to Vox about their calculator
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>>68816735
Wow, that's yuuuge.
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Thanks, Sanders!
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>>68817205
Yeah if I end up paying more in taxes there's no fucking point in working so I might as well quit my job and get DUDE FREE SHIT like all the other NEETs around here.
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>>68817205

I was on the sanders page looking for meme magic a while ago, and they were downvoting people who said bernie's tax plan would raise taxes on the poor. Even though he specifically says that poor people would have a tax hike in his plan.

They're just idiots desu
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>>68817551
Fuck meant to reply to >>68817289
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>>68817642
Most of reddit's users are white, so they can't be poor anyway
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Trumps tax plan would add more to the national debt than Obama is adding right now.

Lower taxes seem great, but it's not worth the government debt. This is the number 1 thing preventing me from fully supporting Trump. I'm very fiscally conservative, but part of being fiscally conservative means recognizing that we can't just keep building up more and more and more debt.

We can only afford Trumps plan if we reduce spending by literally Trillions over the next 4 years.
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>>68818155
>bringing more jobs in would add more to the national debt

No, you're not voting for Trump because you disagree with him, you're not voting for Trump because you're fucking stupid.
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>>68818155
He's going to deregulate. No more EPA. No more NASA. No more common core. There may not even be a department of education. Trump's plan will make the country rich again, and that will also filter into to the revenue. Bernie's plan will shrink the economy and the revenue.
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>>68816369
Fuck Bernie
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>>68817551

Do you have the source for that pic?
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>>68818155
This. Trump needs to reduce government spending if he wants to implement his tax plan, but he hasn't really said anything about doing that much. I still think that he will either ease up in the tax cuts, or find more ways to cut spending, that's the only thing he can really do.

>>68818542
That won't be enough. Reducing taxes is great in the long term, but it will look as if he failed his presidency, especially without cutting much.
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My parents weren't sure who they'd vote for, but this will probably convince them to vote Trump
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>>68818456

Wow super edgy comment there bro!

Care to explain with your superior intelligence why Reagan INCREASED taxes after several years of dramatically increased federal deficits, admitting that he had cut them too low?

Surely a man who knows everything like you can explain why this time it will be different, right?
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>>68818155
As opposed to Obama who doubled the combined debt of all presidents before him, right? Trump is hoping to deregulate a lot of crap, shitty regulation and so on. This will create business opportunities, jobs, companies will be forced to come back, and thus you will have a shit ton of people that won't be relying on social security anymore AND will pay taxes.
Its literally impossible to calculate this number, you can only predict things will get better.
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Our communist friend isn't looking too good...
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>>68819105
>6 millions jobs eliminated

I wonder if he's not telling us something...
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>>68819817
>Bernie's tax plan
>Everyone would pay alot more
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>>68819967
>Trump's tax plan
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>>68816369
I just pay 45k taxes per year so fuck you and your taxes USA.
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>>68819967
>how to make even fewer rich people pay taxes
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You do realise most of you won't be paying for health insurance with Bernie's tax plan right? The whole point of the tax increases is to pay for universal healthcare
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>>68816735
FEEL THE BERN
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Bernie wants you too pay this much more for $20,000 a year.
>Looking out for the poor
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>>68820189
Nice income swissbro
If I may what your profression?
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>>68820215

So I should pay $5000 MORE for health insurance? that seems like an awful lot

Better to reign in healthcare costs, that's the root of the problem.
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>>68820464
Dr. Med. Psych.
Got my degree 8 months ago so there's room to improve.
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Thanks Hernie
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Sure feels great living in a third world country.

Why do I even try to live?
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>>68820022
Google bar stool economics cat-v. It's literally you.
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>>68816369
But I was taught government spending has a higher rate of multiplying magic

I don't trust any of you

Comrade bernie for life

If I would've remembered to register all the way in october (wtf Arizona? My attention span is 2 months top)
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>>68816369
lol what a fucking communist.
This is Hugo Chavez-tier
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I love Trump, but I also love my money
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Hahaha fuck bernie
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>>68821028
Jesus, may I ask what your profession is?
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>>68820464
>>68820464
Oh and I made a mistake, my wives income isn't even added.

Wow fucking america you guys really get taxed to hell.
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>>68818155
trump plans for less taxes, massive cutbacks on govt programs that have grown out of control, and deregulation which will contribute to real economic growth, because the opposite is what drove our jobs and money overseas in the first place

the pentagon spent literally $400 billion on a jet that doesn't work. there's so much money we could be saving.
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>>68816369

>Make 20k last year

>Sanders wants 2,000 dollars more out of me.

Jesus fucking christ in my area you can't even afford a studio apartment for 20k and this fucking faggot wants me to give 2,000 more dollars?

I'm pissed.
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>>68819105
talk about a jobs holocaust
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>>68820022
>the richer you are, the more money you keep

yeah no shit cuz you make more money,
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>>68821208
hey, at least you'll be able to get a free nigger studies degree from your local community college
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bernie pls
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>>68821208

yeah but don't worry, you'll have a gender studies degree for freeeeeeeee
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Poverty as hell here, made barely over $13k last year. Bernie says he wants to help the poor, LOL.

It should be noted that thanks to how little I made anyway, plus earned income credit and Roth IRA contributions, my total federal income tax payments for 2015 were, like, no more than $200 anyway. I forget the exact number because I filed my taxes 2 months ago but I barely paid any taxes anyway.
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>>68821352
heh goy dont you wanna give $20k to jamal so he can get FREE healthcare and tuition?
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>>68821180
You're right. It's hard to compare against your based country. At least we're not as bad as the rest of Europe...yet
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>>68816369
He is practically stealing from the poor. I thought that he was supposed to be helping them? I guess he is spending the on dem programs for us.
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>>68821120
Me and a few friends of mine own a small, but growing, company similar to Blackwater but no where near as fucked up.
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Eat shit Bernie

I'm #cruzmissile now

Whats even worse is this old cock smoking commie will fuck me even harder by removing my amazing $200 a month healthcare plan and replacing it with Medicare and will completely tank my share plan

Blows my fucking mind how my co workers have a hard-on for this old fool
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Fuck you Bernie
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>>68818155
Get rid of illegals and you're good to lower taxes and start paying that debt
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>>68819565
probably because the soviets were posturing hard as fuck again and defense spending was necessary to counter their 54 fucking divisions compared to our 16.
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>>68821028
Am I wrong in assuming that 40 thousand is not going to be a big hit to you?
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>>68821516
At least most of europe get some pretty cool stuff for their taxes while in the US it's literally nothing unless you're a a lowest lower class dweller, nigger or neet.
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>>68818155
>le national denbt boogeyman
Who's gonna make us pay?
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Uh, thanks Bernie?
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This has to be wrong. Holy shit.
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>>68821720
DELETE THIS
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Bernie a shit
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>>68816369
>vox
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I like how this chart says "everything stays the same" under Clinton.
Yeah, everything does stay the same. We stay on the same path to destruction.
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>>68816369
So after doing some napkin math, if Sanders is elected president, and I make 20,000 dollars as a single person with no children, I'll bey paying 4,538 dollars in taxes. Fuck that.
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>>68821732
The billions of people whom you owe money to.
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>>68821787
Health care is a right, goyim.
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>>68820655

>Dr. Med. Psych.

Psychiatry?
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>>68821890
I'd like to see 'em try.
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>>68819967
Make Y axis incentive to leave economy
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Whats the chances any of these tax plans would actually pass? If anything only hillary's seems possible and thats only because its basically the same fucking thing we have.
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>>68820446
B-b-but free shit!
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Does Hillary even have a tax plan?
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>>68816369
>http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016


Wait, isn't Vox a liberal website? Wouldn't this hurt their agenda?
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>>68821732
Even if nobody makes you pay, default brings huge inflation and lack of investment. The dollar would plummet in value and your government would have to cut spending or raise taxes anyway or face massive inflation.
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>>68816369
Trump would make life on minimum wage much better
Bernie would make me homeless

Yurop needs its own trump
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>>68822148
Bernie: 0%, even with a Dem majority in congress. Cruz and Trump have a chance if they seriously scale back the severity of their plans (which is what every politician would do tbqfh imqfho famalam)
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Any % of 0 is 0, wagecucks.
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What the fuck, even if you make $0, taxes still go up.
Bernie's going to wreck hell on the USD.
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>>68822148
>Whats the chances any of these tax plans would actually pass?
None, it really doesn't matter. Unless we're in times of great fear/stress on the population, it's going to be much status quo.
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>>68822233
Liberal does not mean Jewish Bolshevik.
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>>68822148
Cruz's sounds unrealistic. Trump's is perfect. And then Bernie's will fuck up everyone. I'm so glad he won't even pass primaries
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>>68822292
Kill yourself
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>>68822233
Liberal probably, but not full gommie.
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>>68820655
How long did it take for you to get your degree and start making over 100k?
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>>68821863
Take that back. Did some more math, and found out that it's not 4,538. It's somewhere closer to $5,200
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>a kike is significantly taking everyones money

wew fucking lad
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Holy shit...
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>>68822256
Depends, are you white or a mudslime? Because if you're a mudslime, despite the fact that'll you'll be paying more in taxes, you'll be able to apply to a program that gives you free money.

If you're white though, you're fucked, because white people can't be poor.
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>>68821800
Don't get me wrong buddy, I'm from a swiss lower middle class family, I worked while I studied and the government payed for 90% of my health care insurance, granted me a free public transport ticket for the whole time and the most taxes I payed while getting my Dr. Med. was 80 CHF/year "citizen tax".

Now we will have to pay some money but I'm fine giving about 50k back for nice infrastructure and public service and will even donate some money to my town for random projects they can't found otherwise.

>>68822007
Yes sir.
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>>68816369

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Trump: pay 3,160 less (basically not have to pay into taxes like I did this year)

Bernie: Pay 4,280 more (basically JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI)

is this accurate? If it is I'm seriously going to actively start campaigning against bernie.
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>national debt is too high guys
>woah woah, don't raise taxes tho
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>>68822784
>let's lower investment by raising taxes
>let's create less business opportunities and encourage existing companies to leave
It just werks
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>>68822784
Bernie is rasing taxes to pay for his own shit, not national debt
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>>68822784
Taxing the entire economy at 100% wouldn't clear the debt.

Taxing the super rich at 100% wouldn't even make a dent.
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>>68816369
Weird, I entered $8,000, and it says I pay money under Trump.
Just weird
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>>68821890
what are they going to do about it? Invade? I'd like to see them try, we don't need you filthy fucking foreigners
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>>68822784
>muh debt
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>>68817551
Does that account for voters being currently in college? Where do they fall some college?
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>>68821559
My friend and I are thinking of starting a business, any tips?
It's a delivery service.
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Oy Vey!!
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>>68816735
you have to include factor income into this otherwise its meaningless

once again, vox is shit.
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>>68822784
>Poorto Rico
>2/3 of the island on government assistance
>talking about national debt
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I'll gladly pay 900 bucks a year so people can have free healthcare and college
Trump's plan will be at the cost of dozens of social programs and infrastructure, but retard "redpills" think that that shit runs off magic pixie dust and unicorn piss
Have fun paying for the wall he won't get Mexico to build btw
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>>68823039
Nigger you mostly owe money to your own people.
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Epic. Epic for the win. Thanks Hernie Panders. Apparently I'm part of the evil rich elite?
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>>68823331
>paying $960 more
You're in the fucking $10,000 retard. You aren't paying for someone's college. It's everyone else who's compensating for your shit, you fucking leech.
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>$47,360 under Hernie
>$14.600 more

Thank God that senile loser will never get in.
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Holy fuck. I made $8,000 last year, I thought Bernie wanted to help people like me.
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>>68816369
Is this nigger serious

I know teds a liar but I'd vote him if he is the nom over Lenin jr. And the witch
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>>68822784
Deport illegals and build the wall.

Really, it's that simple
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>>68823566
Stay mad and enjoy your free healthcare and your resulting financial security, pleb.
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I would pay higher taxes for a better society because Im not a short sighted, selfish myope like you idiots

Bernie not btfo at all
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>>68823673
Same.

I'm pretty sure this calculator is biased, though. Even if Vox is a pro-bernie site, it seems like they forgot Trump's promise of the first 10k not costing taxes?
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>>68823796
It explains all of that on the page. It's calculating more than just federal income taxes. It's including payroll taxes and shit.
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>>68823753
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>>68823796
>Even if Vox is a pro-bernie site
vox is pro obama/clinton/neoliberal. they hate bernie.
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>>68822504
10 Years in total. I'm 28 right now and probably one of the oldest posters here kek.
But I make around 100k since 4 years but due to the education costs and other expenses I ended up in the working poor field till last year.
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>>68817133
same here.
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>>68823922
Ah.
Well, it's way worse under Hernia still.
I hope he doesn't make my poor young-adult ass get on welfare from his outrageous taxes. I'm already struggling as-is
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>>68823753
>I would destroy the economy for feelgood nonsense because I'm not a short sighted
Stopped reading right there. Destroying the economy because your feelings tell you to isn't sagacious behavior, wu.
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>>68816369
Just fuckig no
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>>68816369
FUCK NO. FUCK THE JEW! TIME TO BURY MY GOLD COINS!
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>>68823742
The only reason you're supporting this isn't because it's fair, or morally right, it's because you want something, but you simply don't want to pay the asking price, but instead of exposing colleges for their bad practices, you just want to go the easy route, and have someone else foot the bill for you.
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>>68820215
universal healthcare is terrible.
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>>68824058
Just remembered that he will raise the minimum wage to $15.
I guess I better pray for a Trump victory, that shit will lose me my job
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So a Jew wants to take all my money. Big surprise.
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>>68821559
can i join?
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>>68820215
Oh boy, I sure want the entire healthcare system to turn into the VA. That sure is working great as a microcosm of a government run single payer healthcare provider.

Fuck off.
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>>68823455
thks gonna use this.
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jist bern my shit up fampie

but I think self employed maybe has a different tax code?
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>>68821334
>>68821376

I know people say psychology is a shit degree but the fact of the matter is I could be making six figures with psychology once I obtain my master's later this year.

I'm fine with that.

But the fact this cuntrag would charge me an extra 2 grand while I attempt to get a decent gig is astronomically enraging.
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Fucking kike slime. So much for helping the poor. I don't even have enough money to eat every night. Gommie scum
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>>68820215
>You do realise most of you won't be paying for health insurance with Bernie's tax plan right? The whole point of the tax increases is to pay for universal healthcare
Americans aren't that intelligent though. They don't realize that healthcare in the USA costs $20,000 per household, the government is both paying for through the backend with tax credits, and corporations are taking out of salaries in order to fund.
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>>68824298
That makes no difference. Employers will either lay 50% of their staff off/outsource them or adjust the prices. $7.50/h for a gardener is actually 22.50/hour, new price is $45/h for the consumer. Guess where all that labour goes...
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>>68824631
>Bernie succesfull it passing a single payer

Ahhahahhahhahhhahhahhhahahhhahahhahahhhhahahhhahhahhaaahhahhahahahhhhahhahahahahhaha

I'm sorry but I'd rather have choice
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>>68823700
hey Columbia bro are you an american or just based?
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t-t-thanks
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>>68824631
I make 58,000 a year and my healthcare is 100% paid for by my employer. I'm sorry you made a poor choice in the employment field but that isn't my problem.

Making it worse for me doesn't help anyone and your solution of fucking the entire system instead of addressing the GOVERNMENT CAUSED REASONS that corporations abuse the tax credit system in order to make it are fucking retarded.
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>>68824631
I'm not paying for it now. I wasn't paying for it five years ago either. The only thing you're doing is piling more taxes onto me.
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>>68819903
underrated
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>>68823700
I love Colombia, you guys are great
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>>68820215
>>68824631
>USA elects a staunch liberal that is focused on reforming healthcare to make it more affordable
>my premiums go up 200%
>another staunch liberal that is focused on reforming healthcare to make it more affordable

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?
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>>68823398
i know
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>>68824590
with that income i find it impossible to believe that you go hungry
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How much free stuff is Bernie planning on giving out?

Besides college which I don't give a shit about, what else will be free?

Is it mainly just food stamps, healthcare and college?
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>>68824631
fuck off peasant, mine costs almost nothing and is a high end PPO plan

Redditard burger flippers like you might be happy getting the same quality of care that the VA gives but us grown ups would like to keep our plans
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>>68823185

i think some college is a mix of currently in college and dropouts, could be wrong
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>>68818155
what if the government stopped spending over it's means
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>>68825053
I'm pretty sure every nigger gets a golden Cadillac and every nigress gets to go down to the local WASP extermination center and rescue a lucky white girl to be her slave nanny to watch her 14 kids while she goes down to the club (the club is free for blacks, courtesy of BLM which is now a government agency).
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>>68824788
I'm a native colombian that hasn't ever been out of his country. It's just that /pol/ made me care about international geopolitics.

>>68824983
Thanks, i will be here to say the same about your country when Trump finally makes it great again.
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>>68825160
>Redditard burger flippers like you might be happy getting the same quality of care that the VA gives but us grown ups would like to keep our plans
reminder that bernie wants to make it illegal to buy your own plan and you're forced to use the government one
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>>68824590
>makes six figures
>can't eat

looks like someone isn't financially responsible
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sanders pls no
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>>68825049
He could be self-employed.
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>>68818155
if high taxes generate money, why don't we just increase our corporate tax rate to 99%?

oh right, we scared all the fucking corporations off already
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>>68825376
Or live in California or NYC.
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>>68817766
True
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>>68824631
I pay $44 a month for a God-tier health plan through my employer.

Bernie can get fucked.
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>>68821201
Ohohoh don't believe fox news m8
Jet works
But jet fuel melt steel beams :(
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damn Bernie would hit me for a extra 5k, fuck that guy
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>>68825261
muh Single Payer, you can just get additional health insurance on top of it! Never mind that you already got taxed out the ass for the 'free' plan that you cant use because 15 million Mexicans are waiting in line in front of you to see the government designated doctor

fucking retards, when gas is $10 a gallon and there's a national sales tax on everything to pay for bernies single payer shit-show they still won't get the real cost of 'free'
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>Bernie's Tax Plan

>>>Paying $980 more

So basically i'd have no choice but to use foodstamps permanently. If so then i'd technically be saving money since foodstamps are generally $180 a month on average.
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This also doesn't even factor in the astronomical damage it would do to every business in America because Hernie's genius plan is to double the payroll tax, meaning both the employer and the employee would be paying 12.4% tax before the money even gets to your wallet.

And that's on top of that magical 15 an hour minimum wage he wants. Hernie is a god damn retard and ANY ONE who supports him is either a lunatic or a child.
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Trump -$14,490
Cruz -$22,000
Clinton +$490
Sanders +$20,000

No Kasich numbers? Wtf? Well, then Clinton it is.
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>>68825793
You forgot the robinhood tax that would destroy the economy. In every country it has been tried in it was a massive failure
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>>68816369
What is the Average wage?
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>>68825793

Bernie's plan will accelerate robotic automation tenfold. His plan is basically to get people off of jobs and onto a basic universal income.
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single, no kids, $53,000 salary

I'd pay $5,770 more under Bernie

fuuuuuck that

so I can pay off my 50k in student loans but people younger than me can go for free? fuck you Bernie
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Well this isn't too surprising. We all know how much Bernie supporters love giving him all their money.
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>>68825049
Literally says he has 2 or more kids
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>>68826204
He is probably a 19 year old Bernie supporter with no concept of how much children cost
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>have summer job
>make 1400$
>bernie wants me to pay an additional 170$
WHAT THE FUCK MAN
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>Only make $6,000 due to part time minimum wage work during university and full time minimum wage work during summer
>Bernie wants me to cough up another $500 dollars, 8% of my inome

its ogre
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Wew lad, fuck Bernie
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>>68826580

I really don't think Bernie's supporters ever considered the actual tax added to their income.

Okay look, Bernie's message is beautiful, but the reality is that the system is still running of the 20th Century operating system that cannot handle this sort of change without it breaking down.

It's inevitable that America will implement marshal law within a years time or less, no matter who's president the system will break down.
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>>68816369
Average middle class family earns between 140 - 185,000 combined annual income. The average increase for the middle class is 28% on income taxes.

People in America really support this fucking retard?
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>>68817361
That is a small price to pay if you don't have to pay for medical insurance according to him.
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>>68827168
kids who never held a job in their lives, yes
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>>68816735

Do you pay healthcare? Bernie wants to slash monthly premiums. Says you'll save thousands per year.
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>>68820752
Bernfags everybody.
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>>68827168
>Average middle class family earns between 140 - 185,000
Maybe that number is in Canadian FunBux but not, that's nowhere near the average annual income of a middle class family. It's a little less than half that nowadays.
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>>68822313
fucking lol'd.
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>>68816369
>Vox
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>>68816369
Anything claiming to tell you how a candidate's policies will affect you financially but ignores trade deficits is bullshit. Donald Trump's policies will turn the US's massive trade deficits into excess. Everyone in America will be doing better financially when we're not hemorrhaging money as a nation.
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>>68827168
Median household is like 60k
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>>68827254

my employer pays my premiums, or a majority of them.

I chose a plan that, if something bad happens, I will only pay a total of $3,200 out of pocket per year, so I pay an extra $30 a month out of my paycheck for that.

once my deductible of 3,200 is paid everything is covered.

If I chose the base plan my employer would pay all of my premiums and my total out of pocket, if I hit that total in a year, would be $6,200.
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>>68821287
I was trying to piss off a bernfag at work. He called Trump Hitler so I said Bernie is more like Hitler because of socialism. (Bernfag was too dumb to know the difference) he said wow that's fucked up all of Bernie's family was killed in the Holocaust so I said Damn, too bad they didn't get Bernie too. The dude called me a racist and walked away because he just couldn't even. I laughed and went back to work.
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>>68825049
My son's tuition is 20k and my mortgage is 2500 a month. I also have a degenerative neurological disease that I'm paying a lot out of pocket to treat. 115k isn't really a lot nowadays, especially with kids and bills. You'll see when you're older.

I had to forgoe college because I couldn't afford it at the time. Still have no degree and I'm doing pretty damn well for myself in my opinion. Don't lecture me on "responsibility".
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>>68827659

I'd like to see Trumps plan when robotic automation takes over.

All those manufacturing jobs coming back to Murrica... and then getting swapped out by a robot. What then?
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>>68827862
>I'm a genetic failure and require hugely expensive and unique medical intervention instead of dying like I would have 40 years ago and therefore my experience mismanaging 115k means no one can actually do well on this huge amount of money
Go die in a ditch.
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>>68816735
Note that Bernie's plan also has huge problems like assuming trading would continue at current rates with an FTT. You would end up paying significantly more than that.
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>>68827254
Right now I get health care through my employer. I have to pay a larger share than I did before the Affordable Care Act, but even if Bernie cut my monthly medical bills down $0 his taxes would still make me poorer.
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God-Emperor: $4600 less
Commie kike commander: $7300 more!
Cankles: $130 more, essentially unchanged

The choice seems pretty clear
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>>68825964
My understanding from reading all these burn-victim posts is that Sanders would just write off all existing debt too.

Fuck knows how that would work.
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So, the poor kids that are living with their parents, and working FULLTIME at starbucks, would have to pay 2k in taxes annually.

2+
SUBMIT AND SEE HOW YOU'D FARE
We adjusted your income for 2017 dollars, which puts you at $20,906. On average, people like you — whose income is between $20,000 and $25,000 and are married with one child — would pay about $1,020 in federal taxes in 2017 under the current tax code, or an effective tax rate of about 2.7% of your expanded cash income.
Ho
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>>68828043
****lets go back to 1880****

>I'd like to see trumps tax plan when industrial machinery takes on
>all those stable hands and factory workers that will be out of job when steam, coal and electrical machines are doing all the work!!!!!

Same fag, different era
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>>68827862

can't your kid take on a little debt? my parents didn't pay for my college and I never expected them to.
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Bruh...I can barely afford to live where I'm at now on 50,000 a year, and now this fucking KIKE wants $5,430 MORE.

G A S . T H E M . A L L
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>>68828105
U mad you fell for the college meme and make less than me? And my disease is in remission. That's what happens when you actually work for a living NEET faggot. And I'm happy as fuck I can afford to give my son a headstart at a good school, it's worth every penny. I mean at least you can post here to soothe your butthurt.
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>>68828291
It's a private high school. I don't take loans, never did. You can either afford it or you can't imo.
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vox is socialist so the're lying about bernies plan. whatever they say it is, in reality, it is far worse.
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http://datatitian.com/why-voxs-numbers-for-bernie-sanderss-tax-plans-are-so-wrong/

Can't believe /pol/ is falling for this. And /pol/ has the audacity to call liberals believing everything the media feeds them
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Thank god Bernie's looking out for the little man.
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> would pay about $43,200 in federal taxes in 2017

Yeah this kike can fuck off. Even the retard in charge here isn't that greedy.
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>>68825222
BLM already is a government agency, just ask Bundy.
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>>68823753
>better society

Panders supports SJW & BLM bullshit and would tax people into thw poorhouse, Trump would bring jobs back while lowering taxes and bring us all together as Americans.
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>>68825892
It's been a while since I read the stories, but didn't Robin Hood steal from the rich government officials who where overtaxing people?
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>>68822313

Under $9k you don't actually have to file.
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>>68828541

damn. I was actually going to ask you if it was HS or college. I'm an old(er) fag who went to private HS but it wasn't even close to that ridiculous price tag, I have worked since I was 14 to help pay for it and we received tuition breaks because my dad did not make much at the time and my mother has chronic health issues that barred her from most employment
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>>68827254

Pharmacist here.

His health plan is complete garbage.
A. He assumes he can cover everyone for 4k a year, which is totally laughable. Even more so since he's using current models, and many people under ACA don't go to the doctor, because they STILL don't have insurance. If you give it for free, most will go.
B. The coverage, procedures, and formulary are bottom of the barrel tier.
C. The budget relies on not driving ass loads of business away and again using the current models.

You end up eating the tax and buying private insurance anyway (if you don't have it through your employer, which in that case you still have to eat the tax).

That is, if you actually plan on living past age 50.

tl;dr
>Coverage is shit.
>Price is based on current models instead of projections
>Budget is based on current models instead of extrapolations.

Dude is totally clueless, and any one who suggest taking more money for me or others to fund these trash programs ran by a nanny state is a moron.
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>>68816369
>Pay $5,770 more in Bernie's plan

What the fuck? I don't even make that much

I dont like Bernie but this cant be fucking correct
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the thing is all of you cucks only think about the taxes and not what he's gonna be saving you money on
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>>68819817
How much do you earn nigger?
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>>68816369

Those glorious tax deductions on small business owners. Gimme dat Trump!
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>>68827254
And Trump will make health insurance premium tax deductible.
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>>68829083
It isn't

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4bz9ud/vox_tax_calculator_is_making_the_rounds_on/


/pol/ is being an echo chamber as usual
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>>68816369
Well shit, I was on the trump train but now I'm a #CruzMissile
[spoiler]just kidding, Trump's other policies far outweigh the extra cash I'd save from Cruz. Beaner walls are more important. Build the wall, deport them all.
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Fuck that shit. I already pay like 35% tax.

This fucking nigger would have me pay like 9% more.
Close to half of my income total. I'm glad this ass hat is never getting into office.
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hi im jeff
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Jesus Christ, Bernie, I'm already barely making ends meet.
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>>68821559
Nice, I'll also assume you browse /k/ a bit too.
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>implying you will get any of Bernie's handouts.

Protip, the handouts will all be going to Shaneequa and her 10 kids, not to young, single, white males (remember, SJWs loathe you for your race and gender). The only way you will ever get a handout is if you agree to cuck yourself by helping Shaneequa raise her kids.
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>>68816369
FREE SHIT NIGGA!
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>Reddit Powers Activate
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This biased article tells you my opinion and presents it as a fact.
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>>68816369
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>>68819105
oy vey anotha shoah!
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Fuck you sanders. $10,000 more a year from my wife and I.
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>>68816735
Fucking lol. 25% is less than what you pay now in taxes retard.
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>>68829031
Yeah my son is gonna have to get a job soon if he wants to keep going to private school. Gave him a break as it was his first year, but good on you man. And I'm an older fag too, went to nursing school in 83. Yeah I know a male nurse, but I started out with 55k in 1985. Now with my seniority and bonuses I get from leading meetings and writing articles, I average 115k a year. A few years back I made 129k with overtime. So yeah I get shit on for my profession but at least I've got stability and a good base pay.

Was considering going into practice as a doctor but it took much more schooling and I made maybe 10k more a year than I'm making now. Plus you have to factor in insurance and shit, just wasn't worth it. But as I said, my pay without a degree is decent imo:
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>>68816735
>>68817361
>>68819105
>>68819394
Then why are scandinavian social democracies considered to be the most developed and happiest places on earth?

>inb4 hur dur dey lyin
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>>68830949
Because they were until very recently 99% white.
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>>68830949
They're all alcoholics addicted to anti-depressants.
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>>68830949

Since the Scandinavian social democracies want to spend all their SandersBux on shitskins from the 3rd world they're probably not the best example for us

Why does Denmark charge you 180% sales tax on a Honda civic anon?
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>>68816369

>Pay only $960 more in taxes
>Don't have to pay monthly health insurance premiums or worry about expensive procedures insurance companies might refuse to cover
>Don't have to worry about student loan debts anymore

Remind me again why I shouldn't vote for Bernie?
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>>68830949
Not anymore they aren't

also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtyV0CXfzU
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>>68830949
Wouldn't you be happy if you had unlimited white pussy whenever you wanted to take it?

The whites aren't allowed to say they're unhappy with this situation because they don't want to sound racist
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>>68830949
They were already rich as fuck 99% white societies.

Socialism is a luxury good that is propped up by years of successful capitalism.
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>>68829367
>trusting reddit
Remember, they're trying to do mental gymnastics to justify this shit.
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>>68830949

>among the highest suicide rates in the world
>happy

>on average taxed 80% on the dollar
>retarded luxury tax so it's next to impossible to buy cars and houses
>as such everything is owned by banks

>they are culturally homologous sans Sweden

I mean if you're content having about a 26k a year salary with 0 chances to get rich, because of the crippling taxes and living with your parents until you're 60, then sure it's good system.

Some people strive for more than being cuckholds with no freedom on a rainy island. You faggot.
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>>68831102
>only
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>>68831102
Come back when you have a job that actually pays well
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>>68830949
Because they're relatively homogenous. "Diversity" ends up creating increasing distrust and a lack of national unity. Those Scandi countries aren't going to be doing too well with their system in 10 years.
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>>68831169
>Socialism is a luxury good that is propped up by years of successful capitalism.
So it would work best in America, the richest industrial nation?
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>>68821732
>not realising that is money the government owes (You)

Unless you're poor scum goyim
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>>68817133

$4,280 here.

Fucking commies. I paid taxes all year and then I do my returns only to find out I owe $2000 more because I didn't "withhold at a higher level" according to my accountant.

Voting for Trump.
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>bern victims
Top keque
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>>68831380
congress would still have to approve the tax plan

Anyone who thinks that Trump's plan will actually pass through congress is insane, it would create a massive deficit
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10k tranferred to low energy losers
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>>68831360
You're retarded
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>>68831690
your*
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>>68831690
He has a point.

Get blown the fuck out retard
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>>68831102
>Don't have to pay monthly health insurance premiums or worry about expensive procedures insurance companies might refuse to cover
You just have to worry about 2 year long waiting lists and 3rd world-tier medical treatment.
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>>68831581
>Go back and edit
I read it with reddit at the end
I need to get out more
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