So how are you supposed to get a job in 2016 /pol/?
What majors are trash?
Is the degree meaningless?
I dual degreed in philosophy and political science and I was hired in less than a month after graduating. None of you have any excuses for your failures
>>68799567
I majored in sociology and somehow got a decent job 2 months after graduating in December. Also got into grad school with full funding and no tuition for next year. I'm surprised, I thought I was screwed.
>>68799835
I have a degree in graphic design and got a job while studying (payed job, not intern) and after finishing I had 3 consecutive job offers. Now the problem is not having a job, is earning the same that a freshman would with 12 years of experience.
Physics degree. The lady who interviewed me hired me on the spot because she liked my voice.
So...try that I guess?
Before I started learning I spent a couple weeks analysing advertised jobs in a 30 mile radius (UK)
>comfy
>>68799567
leave the US if you want a real job
bend over and spread em if you decide to stay in the US
>>68800269
Physics degree...what physics
>>68799567
Consider becoming a truck driver.
No seriously; because *everyone* considers it an undesirable job, if you put in time, it is possible to make some serious cash and have relatively long term employment stability (The basis of the economy is moving stuff around); if you can deal with people looking down on your because you weren't a tryhard and didn't go to Medical school instead.
If you need money, that's probably the easiest and most direct way of getting it. Good luck on trying to pull chicks with that job title though.
I have my chem degree but I'm not entirely sure what to do. Most of the jobs are pretty menial never ending GC on oil here, and they usually prefer people with a simple diploma so they can pay them less. But grad school is ridiculously fucking expensive. A buddy of mine is doing it and he's at $80k of debt and just finished his 2nd year, and he even had what little scholarships they offer.
I'm making comfortable single living numbers with a graduate degree in Clinical Psychology
Don't do it unless you're willing to go for a Ph.D. or Psy.D. though. Also if you're not willing to get shit thrown at you in internships. Also if you don't honestly believe in helping people from all walks of life.
>>68800269
what is your title? as in what do you do specifically?
>>68801094
> long term employment stability
Doubt it. Driverless cars are going to start popping up within 10 years, and are going to become common not long after that.
>>68800269
Shit, I'm going to get a physics degree too. I'm pretty confident in my orating abilities to bullshit into most jobs, but I dunno what field would be the best. I'm considering an actuary position right now.
>>68799567
Got a software engineering degree from a large State University.
I had jobs thrown at me even with my weak programming skills, started with 61k and benefits...
Software Engineering is in demand these days, it is similar to Computer Science but focuses more on the different processes and life cycles, programming is still a part of it, but it uses techniques and practices to make the programming more accurate and more efficient.
I'm doing Genetics
Did I do good?
I got a degree in geology back in 2008 and now work as a hydrogeologist. It pays pretty well, though I have hgeard some of the experienced consultants get paid what can almost be described as residuals on wells etc.
To be honest, I should have gone into The City and made a lot more, but a desk job is boring as fuck.
>>68800608
It would appear that you're still in the U.S.
>>68799567
step one: don't fall for the STEM meme unless you want to compete against hordes of chinks.
>>68801975
as are you friend
>>68801746
i have two degrees in electrical engineering. my programming skills suck. i'm most comfortable with matlab. i suck at c++, c, assembly, and python.
is there hope for me? i'm 5 yrs out of school and most of my jobs have been in test engineering environments.
thx.
>>68801344
>implying all the ex truckers won't go mad max mode and start pirating the trucks on the open road
pleb
>>68802133
Touché
>>68799567
>not going to trade school
>>68799567
Work hard, stop complaining, be open to new opportunity not in your area of study.
Getting _a_ job isn't hard. Getting your ideal job is.
>>68802473
Forgot to mention, pick two.
>>68801344
My neighbor was a truck driver all his life. Decent size two story house, opened up a garage with the money he made. Now he lets other people run the garage and is pretty much retired.
>>68801239
Telemarketing
Computer Science
Tay is proof that software is the place to be
>>68800718
Jewish physics obviously
>>68799567
You can't really just do whatever you want with a degree, or at least it's recommended you do more. A degree isn't meaningless and in fact it is down right required for many things today, but it also isn't enough.
Ask departments to break down the branches and fields and which industries, positions, and skills are common. You can even look on something like Linkedin and see what people that have succeeded in those fields have done, such as certification for procedures or training, equipment skills, or specific computer program skills. Do work part time or summer internships in related businesses so you can say you are familiar with what is normal.
Join a professional society to have access to market info to understand what you can do to give yourself an edge.
Best thing to major in is having a friend with a job. Preferably a friend in a management or supervising position. Almost guaranteed position with agreeable hours and conditions.
Anything else and ya fucked m8 see you at the bread lines.
>>68799567
If you want to be middle manager your life go for engineering. Otherwise do whatever you want. Having a degree is important, the major is not.
Computer Science. I got hired a year before graduating.
>>68799567
I majored in accounting and am going for my master's in tax.
>>68802946
The problem is too many think that getting the degree is the hardest part. A degree can open many doors, but on the otherside of each door are even more doors. I went to Imperial College which was a pure STEM university, I know some who were brilliant at engineering but ended up working in shitty dead end engineering jobs, yet others who weren't as good but ended up going all over the world earning shit loads. The latter guys leveraged more than just their degrees to get their jobs. Unless you are seriously shit hot a good degree isn't 'enough' nowadays.
>>68799835
>dual degreed in philosophy and political science
>got a job
Flipping burgers or serving coffee?
>>68799567
>2016
>not hiring on for a class I railroad
You'd have yo be fucking retarded not to. Railroad pension in the US is unreal. Great benefits and good pay too in a wide variety of positions. You can get as a conductor, signals maintainer, equipment operator, apprentice mechanic, carman, or more with just your grade 12. A lot of railroads will pay for you to take night/distance classes too while you work for them. Not to mention you have the backing of a large corrupt union and are basically unable to be fired unless you really fuck up.
t. locomotive engineer
I'm planning to study geology this fall, at least a bachelor, maybe a master after it.
Is this a good idea?
>>68803906
go for it bud.
>If you have contacts
You can get a great job with or without a degree, with any major.
>If you don't have contacts
You can only get a great job with a specialized degree (plus years of work experience).
You can get an OK-to-good job with any type of degree.
You can only get minimum-wage-to-OK jobs with no degree at all.
>>68802050
Chinks aren't intelligent. They take pride in the fact they get away with cheating all the time. Cheating isn't seen as a bad thing in Chink culture. They're also heavily pressure by their families to succeed. I knew a chink once that thought he was a genius, but he was just a cutdicklet little manlet who had a tiger mom that pushed him too hard. Ended up killing himself I think.
>>68802282
>matlab
>programming
kek
>>68803906
Maybe.
I wanted to do exploration geology here in Australia but the jobs have dried up - the drilling technology has improved to a point where on sites expertise is not really required and your competitors are all over the world working cheap
>>68803906
The job market is shit at the moment, since 80% of norwegian geologists worked in the oil industry. From what I've heard the geology study is chill though, at least at NTNU, and there's some bro tier people there. If you think you can live with an uncertain job market, go for it. You'll have to get a master though
>>68800718
It doesn't actually matter at all since the stuff you learn about in your specialisation are inapplicable in any job that is not doing cutting edge research. Same goes for mathematics. You pretty much only get hired for your analytical thinking abilities and not the subjects you studied
>STEM
>medical
>law
Everything else is fucking worthless.
>>68804378
screw u
>>68799567
For work/career I'm training to be a full time gunsmith.
For fun I'm studying history, politics, and government.
Feels good not being a retard like everyone else honestly.
>>68801131
Study in Quebec, it'll cost you a fraction of the price.
>>68801373
Im getting a BS in math and am going this route. Potential for 200k eventually with no post grad degree, feels good
>>68799835
Where do you work?
>>68802282
I know that exact feel - I always end up writing some shitty complicated slow code in Matlab because I feel most comfortable with that.
I should probably learn some c++ or even fucking fortran
>>68800718
Physics isn't like engineering
>>68805087
It's literally a calculator you idiot.
>>68805841
You literally can't do shit with just a BS in maths besides maybe being some programmer cuck.
>>68806115
BS in math is highly applicable to finance.
>>68806204
But you're not getting hired.
>>68806361
You can get hired if you know what you're doing.
ask your family
>>68806204
Most of an undergraduate maths program is not applicable to finance. It's all pedantic abstract bullshit. You are better off studying a ML/Statistics course in the CS department, and then some econ theory.
>>68799567
>What majors are trash?
All of them.
So how are you supposed to get a job in 2016 /pol/?
Through connections.
Got a math and econ double at a pretty respectable university.
No job offers. Had to ask my parents' friend for a job at his company.
Started at $40k. Became the company's in-house customs broker. Now making $250k.
It's all about connections, man. Companies can hire immigrants and foreigners for slave wages to do the important and hard work. Why would they care about your skills and merit?
>>68806480
Not in finance with only a BS in math, but delude yourself as much as you want pal.
Pharmacy. I hate it but i'm graduating in a few months.
Don't see why you guys waste so much money on getting student loans etc. I did an apprenticeship in Plumbing and Gas fitting. Doing just as good as my GF who has Masters in civil engineering. Yes she earns more weekly etc. But all I have to do is a 2hr cash job on a weekend then I have earnt more than her fortnightly pay. Be good with tools guys. Trades are ALWAYS needed.
>>68801094
>Consider becoming a truck driver.
Dude, I work in the import/export business (customs broker) and I don't know what you're talking about, man.
Are you an LTL trucker or a FCL trucker?
There is so much congestion at terminals that you can send a FCL trucker in during the afternoon and he would out-gate at 3 AM. Then he has to wake up at 6 AM so he can deliver at 8 AM.
Then there's all the complaints from consignee's about detention charges.
It's a giant headache.
Of all the agents in the transportation field, truckers give me the most headache.
>>68806948
>Don't see why you guys waste so much money on getting student loans etc
Wanting to do more with your life than fix pipes and have an actual education is a big part of it.
>>68806361
Actuary.
>got phd in pure math but then decided against academia
>moved to sf to work as data scientist, first job all things considered was ~170k a year
>move to a different company after 1.5 years, take job making ~220k
>get promoted, making ~300k now including stock options
>mfw
stem is guaranteed lods o' mone if you're not stupid
>>68806651
>millennial feel so entitled that they expect to be showered with job offers straight out of college instead of having to mail resumes
I bet you literally didn't even take internships while in college, too. Pathetic. Boomers may be bad, but you take the cake. You're a real-life version of what boomers caricature millennials as.
>>68799567
Well, I'm pretty good in business and economics, so maybe I will get a job soon.
>>68807148
There is a lot more than fixing pipes and flinging shit.
Self employed
Work in amazing places
Not the same shit everyday
Reduce the cost of building my own house
>>68805841
There are no job openings in the actuarial field.
Also, I would not recommend it. Have you seen what the SOA is doing with the exams?
Compare exam questions pre-2000 with questions post-2000. The questions became a lot less theoretical and more straightforward (Short way of saying it got easier).
Then look at what SOA is doing with exam MFE. They're getting rid of stochastic calculus, brownian motions, interest rate models, and everything in the harder-half of the exam syllabus.
SOA only cares about money and getting more females and minorities into the field. The exams are still difficult now, but it's getting easier every year. There are no so many people vying for jobs.
>>68806204
Yeah I bet they will treat you like a god when you show off your mad epsilon delta proof skills
>>68807374
What if you are lazy, depressed AND stupid?
>>68801373
better get a major in math too. If you're not going for your masters and phd then get electrical eng or mech eng too. Gets you a job right quick and at higher pay than your avg engineer
>>68801344
>the complexity of trucking being left to driverless vehicles
Nigger, what?
What do you think happens when some spics are smart enough to learn that they can rob these trucks by parking vehicles across a country road in the middle of the night, thereby forcing the truck to stop, then cutting it open and stealing the shit inside?
>>68807735
No, but they'll treat you like a god if you can pass the actuarial exams for now.
The exams are getting easier though, so actuaries will earn a lot less respect once the field is flooded with people.
>>68801746
It's not even remotely related to CS.
CS = cryptography, AI, complexity theory, information theory, quantum computing, optimization theory.
SE = code monkey with a side of management.
>>68807439
I had 2 actuarial internships, actually.
>>68807735
I interviewed for both of my positions as a data scientist with a PhD in pure math and no other marketable skills (hadn't done any serious programming in 8+ years and hadn't taken a statistics class since undergrad). It didn't matter in the slightest because getting a PhD in math means you can learn anything there is to learn for any job they could want you to do.
So yes, epsilon-delta skills are important in the sense that if you can do math, you can learn almost anything there is to be learned for the purposes of a job.
>>68808211
I'm the queen of england by the way.
>>68808369
>So yes, epsilon-delta skills are important in the sense that if you can do math, you can learn almost anything there is to be learned for the purposes of a job.
While this is true, I doubt your story, since none of the non-math fags realize this.
I had a faggot econ major coworker during my internship who said the first CFA exam was the hardest exam in the world.
>>68799567
>What majors are trash?
Any liberal arts degrees are trash.
>>68799567
degrees are meaningless. get into one of the trades. i got into carpentry it was the best thing i ever did.
>>68807868
>What if you are lazy, depressed AND stupid?
Being lazy is conquerable if you're very smart. Being depressed is a toss-up and depends on the depth of your depression and how it manifests itself.
Being outright stupid is probably a no-go, but you don't have to be a transcendental genius to get a PhD in Math/Physics/CS. Whatever you lack in brains you'll have to make up for double and triple-time with dedication and work ethic, though.
>>68801746
I get paid 30/hr and half the day I shitpost on here. Truly this is the dream job field
>>68799567
Is it worth it at this point?
They've been yelling STEM since the recession, less before it
>>68808688
>Whatever you lack in brains you'll have to make up for double and triple-time with dedication and work ethic, though.
This is fucking bullshit, and you know it.
There is an IQ floor for these subjects.
While someone with a meager 125 IQ could potentially get a PhD in math or physics with a ton of effort and studying, there is no way someone with a 115 IQ can achieve the same feat unless the grad school stresses memorization over original content.
>>68799567
/pol/s opinion on architecture vs civil engineering?
>>68808564
I should say that while none of the guys that interviewed me had the background to understand my research area, they seemed to afford me a great deal of respect because of it.
I was being hired in a position that was kinda/sorta "innovative idea man" so my academic background was very helpful.
I agree that financial folks seem to vastly overrate the difficulty of their field (I have a dozen stories about a roommate from undergrad who claimed his business admin courses were the hardest college courses in the nation)
By not being american.
You shit on europe 24/7 with your fat faggot face but guess what you stupid fucking nigger? Education is free here, jobs are guaranteed out of school, there is no debt or other stupid jew shit.
Every time I see one of these threads I just can't help but wonder why any sane person would ever stay in fucking america of all places. Everything about it is fucking trash top to bottom.
>>68808884
If you're a non-Jewish white male with no connections, then it's definitely not worth it.
It's all just propaganda from corporations to lower wages.
The only ones who find jobs are H1B slave-wagers, jews, connected whites, and those who fall in the affirmative action category (women, blacks, hispanics, gays, lesbians, trannies).
There are no jobs for you.
>hey are you guys hiring
>yeah you've got to apply online
>>68809125
My brother is studying architecture. He's also a Chad
Did my chemistry degree with honours. Had 8 call backs within a day of applying for jobs but decided to do my PhD instead.
>>68808985
>There is an IQ floor for these subjects.
IQ is not synonymous with brains.
>>68809301
>Have no debt
>Got job 2 months outta college
>Be American
>tfw want to study history
>tfw probably will have to go something like economics to survive
>>68808671
But not everybody enjoys carpentry or trade jobs. I do part time welding. While I get paid a fuck lot for just some part time, but that's because I have an uncle who helped me get hired, and it's fun but not what I want to do with my life. I'm in college going for a BS and eventually a MS or PhD depending on how well I do.
>>68807980
Well but that's a little something additional to your bsc.
A bachelors is just a foundation for higher level specialisations and not something that makes you employable on its own
>>68809575
hi there, reddit
>>68808985
>There is an IQ floor for these subjects.
There really isn't.
I take it you've never interacted with an average Chinese math grad student? They're usually thicker than hogshit but have a much lower attrition rate than domestic students because they live a spartan lifestyle that is completely unconscionable to the average non-Chinese grad student.
The idea that there is a magic number that determines whether or not someone can do math research is pretty laughable, and the fact that you honestly believe it makes me think you've never done any yourself.
>>68809301
>Education is free here, jobs are guaranteed out of school, there is no debt or other stupid jew shit.
Then why are Muslims, Pakis, and black all disenfranchised?
>>68809575
>IQ is not synonymous with brains.
IQ is highly correlated with g-factor.
There is a single abstract "general intelligence" that controls your performance in every endeavor you do regardless of how different they may appear. IQ attempts to measure that "general intelligence".
People with high IQs tend to be better than people with lower IQs at everything.
Contrary to popular belief, math skills and reading skills are not orthagonal. Neither are writing skills and sports reflexes.
All of these skills/abilities are determined by your underlying general intelligence and all of these skills are correlated with one another.
Being good at taking IQ tests is also part of general intelligence.
>>68799567
english major
law school
$190 k first year out
>>68810063
ask the cucks not me
>>68810198
>$190 k first year out
Don't you mean $19k being a law clerk?
>>68808840
Me too, however I only make $26/hr :^(
>>68809739
the fuck are you talking about
>nobody enjoys carpentry or trade jobs
the only reason my dad likes going to work. Building shit by had and seeing the fruits of your labor is so rewarding
>>68799567
>So how are you supposed to get a job in 2016 /pol/?
Learn a trade. Skilled tradesmen (electricians, carptenters, plumbers, welders, so on and so forth) are in huge demand right now because so many millenials have bought into the myth that you must have a degree to be successful.
>>68805841
Read >>68807536
Unless you waste your life getting a PhD in math, get a statistics degree, I have MS math with exams and ended up in a deadend engineering role. Could not even get interview for entry level actuarial role. So fucking mad and depressed at my life.
>>68809730
Just become a high school teacher. Pays all right and shitloads of vacation
>>68810434
Your dad isn't everybody, faggot.
I also didn't say "nobody enjoys carpentry or trade jobs," I said "not everybody enjoys carpentry or trade jobs." Stop being a retard, and go strengthen your reading comprehension skills.
>>68808170
CS is none of those things you retard
holy shit leafposters why
what happened to you?
>>68809301
Have fun never making over $50k and never owning a car worth more than $14k
>>68810434
Just because you're A FUCKING LEAF doesn't mean it's mandatory for you to get high all day everyday.
>>68810751
OK pajeet. Whatever you say. I'm sure reality will change to accord with your brilliant ideas.
>>68810510
>I have MS math with exams and ended up in a deadend engineering role
Sorry for your loss, friend. I'm actually FSA and it's infuriating what the SOA is doing. It's so blatantly obvious that they're making the exams easier to ensure more women and minorities pass the exams. Every entry-level job posting you see on job sites is meant for women and minorities, not white males. You see the same company hiring an entry-level actuary for about 5 months until they finally have a female or black applicant. Then they reject your application.
Thankfully, I found a better and easier job. I do like mentioning that I passed all actuarial exams. I see that it gathers a lot of respect in the academic and business world.
>>68809324
I totally agree with this.
I hope administration doesn't fail for me
I always wanted a stem degree, makes you sound smart
>>68799835
Did somebody say McDonalds?
>>68799835
>dual degreed in philosophy and political science
>hired in less than a month after graduating
Why yes, yes I will supersize my order. Thank you. Can I also get some fries with that?
>>68810752
I make plenty of money to buy whatever I want, my bf has a car already so I don't need one.
If you are going to post muscle cars at least post a good one like the 68 charger
>>68810993
I'm sorry that you went to a shitty community college that teaches random subjects thrown together
>>68811276
The irony is physically palpable.
>>68811274
>my bf has a car already so I don't need one.
Europe.
>>68810538
>high school teach. Pays all right
God damn you Scandinavians.
>>68810752
Why would you need a car worth more than 14k? Stop giving jews that much money.
>>68802918
to think these three no doubt fucked like sluts and birth about 12 kids each, with a couple surviving
>>68808170
My Uni CS programs were basically: IT Admin (Cisco, Linux + Microsoft server courses, Network security and fundamentals), Database (concepts, database optimization and administration, data mining and warehousing), Software Engineering (Development methodologies, testing, design patterns etc)
Everything you've listed were just additional courses you could take a few classes as program electives.
>>68802050
>Chinks
WEW
you have to worry about the pajeet.
They arent captives unlike chinks and they come in millions.
Why the fuck pay for a competent well-rounded American Code-monkey when you can hire an office filled with 40 pajeets for half the price.?
>>68810752
Our country is so fucked when 50k is some goal.
>>68799567
I am really bad at math like really bad I haven't done any major math in about 10years pretty much forgotten everything.
>>68811492
>God damn you Scandinavians.
Teachers are paid alright in NYC.
They start at $55k and cap-out at $125k.
They have great benefits and a *70% pension plan* given that you've worked long enough.
Lots of teachers live in wealthy suburban areas like long island. Low teacher pay is a myth.
You can also apply to be a prison guard. I know some of them are making $400k+/year with benefits and great pension plans. The good jobs are with the government.
>>68811655
75% of working Americans make less than $50k.
>>68811224
>>68811173
Why would someone with useful multi-workplace skills be working at a fast food place?
>>68807891
Of course I'm getting a math major too. I'm not an idiot.
>>68811025
Shit like this makes me feel sorry for you white guys.
>>68811541
You went to shitcreek, USA's community coll- I mean "totally a university please believe" I see.
>>68811765
That's just NYC. The average teacher salary here is like 40k with shit benefits, and constant threat of being no-job'd because of budget issues.
>>68811655
I just did some math and I make 40k "dollars" a year working from home
and thats just medium pay not full time job is it really a lot for a burger to make 50k a year?
>>68811655
>goal
Skys the limit in the US.
50k isnt a goal here, its the cap in EU
You can make as much money as you want here.
>>68811894
Meme degrees.
No fucking way a FUCKING WHITE MALE is getting employed before a Strong womyn of color or another shitfuck minority(sadly)
>>68812002
UIUC
>>68799567
I studied journalism. But don't want to be a shill anymore.
Please tell me how I can rescue my life. What masters could I get?
>>68812060
That's just natural in a third world country though. Here the average pay for a high school teacher is 63k
>>68808170
you know SE is a subset of CS with some management shit weaved with it?
t. compsci student who has seen the curriculum of SE & CS
>>68812067
See this
>>68812096
>>68799567
Best ways to get a job are to be really good at something, or be willing to do something nobody else will do. Trades are pretty good since all the dumb shits are swarming for womens studies degrees and not going into those fields so demand is pretty high.
Or fuck, if you give zero shits and don't want to go to school or do anything at all, go into trucking. Long haul in particular pays well, nobody wants to do it so its always available, all you gotta do is drive for a few weeks, chill at home for a week or two, drive for a few more, and so on.
Otherwise, if you want to grab a STEM type field, best bet is probably under the Technology fields. Asians will school you on math no matter how hard you try, Science takes a very specific mindset and passion to actually enjoy. No real experience with engineering, don't know anybody who's gone down that path and not decided to just do something else by the time they finished.
I'm doing a 2 year softwar engineering program myself, its a bit of a more practical computer science area, you aren't expect to know the mechanical logic of the hardware, your taught the skills for developing over the life cycle of a program. If you like fixing problems, its a decent field to go into, because everything you do will likely cause bugs and problems that need to be fixed. Database administration is a good one, lots of people don't think about that one and it pays pretty well and is in really high demand as companies need to collect more and more user data.
Just whatever you do, avoid subjective fields and historical fields if you really want to ensure getting a job out the gate, and any field that involves just studying the behavior of something is probably a poor choice as well. If you've a passion for German literature or Spanish culture, just study that yourself, you don't need a school to indulge passions.
>>68800269
Vocaroo something sexy pls
>>68812116
Have you ever encountered the management class? It is men, almost universally with education in the humanities and business.
>>68812116
>>68812067
Put in mind that living in the USA is fuck-expensive.
Housing is fucked up, a shit wooden-house of 2 floors WILL go around 700k bucks.
Renting is even worse.
If you get some big injury you better kiss your ass goodbye.
College is shit-fuck expensive too.
It may be enough for you estonian, but in america that is barely below average
I want to build robots and develop artificial intelligence. Is college worth going to? If so, which classes should I take?
Most of autistic faggots think you have to be an engineer to get a decent. Job I have a neuroscience degree and got hired as a researcher right away because I interview well.
>>68799567
Accounting/Finance masterrace here.
I already landed a comfy office job.
I'm also volunteering as a fireman for that personal fulfillment.
Feels good man.
>>68812453
>living in the USA is fuck-expensive
This varies wildly depending on where you live.
Thoughts on IT like networking and system admin? Systems analyst? I guess that'd be an Information Systems degree but would certs be more valuable?
>>68799567
I have a degree in fine art/ photography. I use my degree everyday and have made great money with it.
Side note, I also graduated with no debt, which is a pretty easy thing to do.
You just need to make sure you graduate with a skill you didn't have before you went to school.
>>68812488
Learn Common lisp.
git gud
make some challenges and projects.
Never stop.
>>68812453
>>68812067
Here you simply buy a house for $550k add $20k in improvements then sell it for $715k :^)
How lucrative is a media degree? TV-Film/video production
>>68812488
Learn Common lisp.
git gud
make some challenges and projects.
Never stop.
>>68812609
I wasnt going to an extreme like the degenerate shithole known as san francisco.
But some other (non-ghetto) Cities.
>>68812792
>implying you will ever sell that shit.
I sincerely want to know what will happen once the Housing-bubble explodes
>>68810198
>law
No other professional
Industry is as saturated right now in Australia.
I wouldn't recommend the following:
Law
Education particularly secondary
Media arts or Journalism
>>68809996
This
I did EE research as part of my dissertation and it was literally grunt work.
Anyone with enough time and commitment could do it.
>>68812341
>Best ways to get a job are to be really good at something, or be willing to do something nobody else will do
Being "really good at something" isn't enough.
You have 1 billion Pajeets and 3 billion Changs who are willing to do your work for minimum wage. Why the hell would companies hire you?
I'm telling you /pol/fags this now. INTELLIGENCE, EFFORT AND MERIT DO NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE A WHITE MALE! SUCCESS COMES DOWN TO CONNECTIONS!
>>68812258
Tru, we pour all our money into useless military toys while the government keeps it's populace stupid, infrastructure in absolute chaos, bureaucracy a madhouse, and a terribly broken justice system. There are more, but that's just what I notice.
>>68812911
>I sincerely want to know what will happen once the Housing-bubble explodes
>Implying you only do this once
>implying you cant do this three times a year and make nearly half a million dollars
>CS + ECE
>I literally work at McDonalds
When people say "guaranteed" majors, that's BS. They assume you are not a lazy idiot who happens to like the subject you are studying.
>>68813074
>3 billion Changs
You are off by a multiple of 3
>>68813158
Sorry for your loss, friend.
I think it's fucking heartless how companies are pushing whites to STEM just flood the market and lower wages.
All that debt and effort into getting a STEM degree only to help giant corporations get high profit.
>>68812911
>But some other (non-ghetto) Cities.
In the US, there is no explicit reason to live in a city. There are plenty of affordable suburbs in most places. And rural land tends to be very cheap of course.
>>68812138
Thanks for confirming. For the record, a CS program is composed of (take any college rating ordered by CS and work your way down):
Mandatory programming 1 and 2
Mandatory math courses (usually math department)
Some low level course (OS and/or embedded, or a course about writing OS drivers that is typically separate from the OS course)
2 software engineering courses (e.g. database and software quality assessment)
School specialty (for example, operational research, numerical algorithms, stochastic programming, or statistical modeling)
1 data structures class
1 algorithms class
1 theoretical computer science class (typically automata theory and elementary computation theory and information theory)
This is around 2/3 to 3/4 of required credits. The rest are taken as in-domain choice courses as well as a few out-of-domain choices.
In-domain choices include: bioinformation, quantum computing, simulation, stochastic modeling, machine learning, artificial intelligence, signal processing, computer vision, natural language processing, graphs and networks, optimization, numerical algorithms, etc.
If no SE program is offered alongside the CS program at the school, SE is taken to be a path of CS. In that case, CS options will also include additional SE classes. Everyone is aware that these are SE classes, not CS classes.
Your school is probably the only university I've ever heard of (even amongst no-name garbage universities, which group your university absolutely belongs to) that puts IT in a CS department, let alone gives mandatory IT courses in a CS track.
>>68812619
Not really smart enough for computer science. Can I make a decent career out of information technology?
>>68799567
I took a while off after graduation to tour the country, but started the job search immediately after getting home. I get a lot of interviews, but none that have ended up with an offer. According to a recruiter I talked to just a few hours ago, the mistake I was making was going for places with a lot of competition, like big employers and universities that offer extremely generous benefits. The talent shortage is very real, even if the only reason they actually use the H1B workers is to fire existing workers they view as too expensive. Companies that actually need a Pajeet can't get him because they can't afford the lawyers and other fees involved.
>>68799835
I know some philosophy majors get hired for very good pay in work involving corporate ethics, but with the high amount of students graduating with these majors, how can they all (or even a decent number) get jobs that pay well? How many corporate ethics people could they possibly need, especially when ethics don't seem to matter any more? What other jobs can they get?
>>68813074
Exactly it doesn't matter how smart and industrious you are, you can not compete with slaves. The accountants don't care about quality or your career, they're operating the company in the most profitable way. I guess they've figured out that despite the loss of quality from the dindus, they still make more money than hiring natives.
You're right, it comes down to Jewish nepotism, white-male mandated discrimination laws, or knowing someone.
I am going for Computer Engineering and intend to do an MBA right after, am I choosing right?
>>68814048
Yes. DBA earn boatloads and do fuckall work, for example.
Going for a statistics major, am I fucked?
I went for a Bachelor of Business Administration in Management Information Systems and I'm 25 making $100K/yr. Downside is very little free time as I must travel pretty much every week, but life is good, and that salary goes further when you aren't dumping most of it to rent (as you would in NYC or Silicon Valley).
>>68814551
What is your actual job title? Do you have any certs?
>>68814309
>CE
>MBA
Choose one. Might as well decide to go with a BSc math and then get a BA.
>>68814431
learn programming and data science, become a data scientist, profit.
I'm doing the same in reverse
>>68814431
It's one of the least fucked career paths bar STEM, you'll be fine desu fampai
>>68814309
Do you even have a tech industry in Brazil?
> 24
> no job yet
>>68814614
>job title
Software Engineer. Really a type of consulting.
I had zero certs until I joined my current employer. I got one or two after I was employed.
>>68814431
Your okay. If you can you should double major in genetics. That's the future.
>>68814431
Statistics major is pretty good. Good job opportunities and great branching options in various domains both via training periods in industry or through a master's or PhD.
>>68814774
Statistics IS STEM. The purists on /sci/ might not like it, but it's math.
>>68799567
you get a job by having a friend inside an emerging company that's looking to expand, the best way to springboard yourself into any business is to get mentored by someone who cares
>>68814695
I'm currently taking a computational science couse with python, the college just added the class this year so there are some kinks but it seems really helpful with data analysis
>>68814431
Actually, I think might be the opposite. Data science seems to be the only field where the demand is high enough to counter government/h1b forces. Of course, I might just think that as I'm currently trying to enter into it.
Just do your best to have some actual R or other statistical programming projects you can demonstrate.
>>68806803
Jesus dude it is definatly taff but you will swim in money
>>68799567
Get an engineering degree, study for 2 more years, and become a petrol engineer.
Or do a 6 year pharmacy program and stop whining. You need a fucking stem degree. Don't listen to non stem cucks.
>>68814793
You've got 6ish years of basement living to do, you'll find something in your 30s.
>>68815059
There's a good machine learning course on coursera done by some guy at Stanford. I also recommend Intro to AI by Russel and Norvig.
If you want some practice you can try entering a competition on kaggle.com
>>68799567
Currently completing my degree in program engineering, afterwards finding a high-paying job shouldn't be difficult, engineers have a heavy demand in the market.
I am halfway through my psychology course, i already have a HR job on the way that i got through family connections, though once i get enough money ill try investing on a clinic in a relatively rich city.
>>68799567
Studying computer science but depression is killing my GPA and I wouldn't be surprised if I flunk out within a year. Even if I do graduate I don't know shit.
>>68812116
>I live in a fantasy world built up by news articles and /pol/ or reddit
White men get jobs way easier than everyone else, that's entirely the whole point of having quotas and diversity hires
I feel embarrassed every time I read 4chan and see retards struggling at basic life things. Life is on ez mode for most of us and people still fail.
>>68814680
Isn't one undergraduate level and the other graduate level?
>>68814774
>Do you even have a tech industry in Brazil?
Yes.
We have the largest ERP company in Latin America, TOTVS, a really large computer manufacturer, Positivo Informatica, many average size software companies, besides foreign companies like IBM, Google and shit.
I don't intend to stay here, though.
>>68815966
Do you even know what MBA stands for?
>>68799567
I'm doing a bachelor of nursing degree, with the growing senior population health care fields should have a lot of open spots. My long term plan is to become a Nurse Practitioner.
Im a male who's seriously considering a job in education...I hear the unemployment rate is fairly high however. And it would take 4 years to get the degree...and I'm already 25.
>>68815829
>Even if I do graduate I don't know shit.
Accounting and business management here
I know that feel
Redpill me on a History Major, /pol/.
>>68816135
Master of Business Administration, which you don't do unless you at least have a Bachelor degree.
>>68799567
I just graduated in architecture and I'm going to have my license by the end of the year. I have 2 years of good work experience. I want to get to get an mba studying abroad or going for a masters in advanced sustainable design, what do you guys think?
>>68816368
You'll get out and hopefully have strong writing and research skills that will help you get your foot in the door in many different fields.
Do I need a masters for ML if I already have a BSc in CS?
Currently contemplating between joining the army or getting a teaching degree
But it takes 4 years to become a teacher and I'll get a lot of loan to pay back, so it doesn't seem very appealing
Joining the army seems more fun
>>68799567
You only get a job by having connections. So, if your parents or extended family don't have connections with an employer in your field of choice, then you have to get an internship to build up some of your own connections. Other than that, you better hope you're graduating from an ivy league school.
The degree is largely useless, but it proves to hiring managers and other HR people that you can persevere and accomplish your goals. STEM degrees are more valuable than humanities, arts, etc. which truly have no value unless you're going to get a graduate degree in it and then teach it.
How does a white guy with no college education get a job in Southern California?
>>68816766
yes, unfortunately
or a strong portfolio w/ impressive projects
>>68813641
this is almost exactly what my CS program was like
>>68816788
Good luck unless you're a woman or a minority. Even the army has diversity quotas nowadays
>>68816820
HS fag detected. Having a non STEM BS/BA degree in the humanities is very strong and opens you up for many career fields that demand good writing, research and analytical skills.
>>68816874
If you learn web dev pretty well and make a solid portfolio, you should be good in Cali
>>68817197
How so?
>>68816874
try to look like a hipster and apply at health food stores
they usually pay well and provide benifits
>>68807868
find ways to keep yourself busy anon,
better yet if you are busy being productive.
Don't fall for the "be yourself" feelgood idea of a career. If you want more you have to push yourself to get it.
>>68817114
>>68816788
what does the norwegian army do? un peacekeeping?
>>68799567
>be old
>watch niece, really smart, graduate with MBA, top of class
>gets job making 60k
>in office dominated by MBAs with six sigma black belts and PMPs
>her stupid brother
>jock
>major idiot
>goes to community college
>takes animation classes
>drops out
>takes job at studio
>makes 100k and isn't even 20
There is not justice in this market.
>>68816368
2 of our last 3 Chancellors had History degrees.
Take that for what you will.
>>68817320
That, controlling the border, and it sometimes partakes in NATO operations. Mostly it's for defence in case of happenings. The navy patrols the Barents to make sure the ruskies don't steal our fish
>>68809125
I finished architecture last year.
As an engineer you can earn more, but architecture is more rewarding if you make it trough all the bullshit.
It really depends on the person, what do you like? how do you see yourself in 5. 10 years?
>>68799835
>Try to get education.
>School thinks I'm too old.
>Try a different route.
>They say I'm not qualified.
>Try another way to get into school.
>They come up with more excuses to not accept me.
Fuck that I just take NEET money then, it's not like I want to contribute anything to society anymore.
>tfw getting a worthless economics degree
I'm going to graduate next year and I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do. I just want a lowly job as an underling in finance.
>>68816434
Correct, but the important point here is business administration, which couldn't be further removed from CE. It's like you really want to do SE instead.
>>68816766
Yes, and you'd be much safer with a PhD.
>>68811050
administration is pretty good in south america, but you have to network really hard and become an entrepreneur because not every business grows as expected.
>>68816951
There's no such thing as a portfolio with impressive projects when you don't have a thesis or any research under your belt. Unless you don't mind buying 4 titan blacks and also happen to be an unparalleled genius, that's not going to happen either. You need someone to help with the research or you wont' get anything done - even assuming you obtain promising result on useful research, you'll almost certainly have used an incorrect method that yield bad results (e.g. overfitting on the validation set, or trying to publish train-set results; tards who thought they were genius have been known to do that in the past).
>tfw studying English + History + Teaching
>tfw no STEM autists / nerds
>tfw 75% qt girls
>tfw piss easy degree, lots of spare time
>tfw top tier salary after graduation
>tfw 50% of my work is done at home in my office, wearing sweatpants
gg STEMfags
>>68818030
Your university matters a lot more than the degree itself, especially for Econ. Econ is a great major with a lot of high paying opps if you're at a good school.
