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What went wrong?
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He lost.
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>>68734244
nigger
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>>68734062
He tried to take down Russia during winter.
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>>68734062
juden
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Amerifats teamed up with commies. Good thing is they both paid the price.
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He took on Russia too soon and then he didn't finish them off soon enough once he did take them on.

Even when I was too young to understand World War II or Nazi Germany, Berlin during that period used to have a magical feel to it that I could never put my finger on.
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>>68734674
this is so beatiful. I adore europe of WWII period. its time period architecture fashion and style.
>you will never walk through italian/German streets with your gf back in 1930-40s.

I know its nazies and its bad but still. what a beautiful world it was.
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>>68734062
Hitler didn't listen to his Generals, had he spearheaded Moscow in the beginning the Soviets would have been crushed. There were many willing supporters willing to help the Reich, but Hitler forbid 1,000,000 Soviet defectors from fighting.

Germany had some of the most brilliant Generals in the world, but he didn't use them.
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>>68734490
I never got why he attcked russia at all
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Hitler cocked it all up. Russia? FFS
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Invading Poland. UK and France were fine with the previous takeovers.
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>>68734062
He didn't deploy his most powerful assets because he was unsure he could control them.
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I think you mean what went right
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>>68734490
He actually tried to during Summer. June is hardly Winter in Russia.

Where Hitler fucked up was by diverting Army Group Centre south instead of seizing Moscow (which could have been done quite easily by August). That would have pretty much sealed the deal as Russian communications and transportation would have been irreparably damaged and German initiative would have rolled up Russian resistance before winter became a problem.

>tfw you realise how close victory really was
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>>68735220

Fuck off, Justin.
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He was hooked on methamphetamine's causing him to make some questionable tactical decisions.
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>>68735247
Except taking Moscow would have done nothing to stop the Soviet industry, the government would have kept retreating east. Taking Moscow would have been incredibly costly and would do almost nothing to stop the Soviet war machine. It would have only been good for propaganda, and would have been a pyrrhic victory.
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>>68734062
hitlers mistake was not taking out russia first.

should have gathered a bunch of other countries with him and just invade the fuck outta russia
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>>68735367
lol you elected a nigger
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>>68734062

Germanic barbarians tried to be like Rome but failed.
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>>68735220

Jesus fuck kill yourself
That's a disgusting sight.
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>>68734866
It feels like a complete different world. I would miss the shitposting, but living during that time would have been infinitely better.

>you will never know what an entire nation of ethnic pride feels like
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>>68735220
It literally all went downhill from here.

This represents the most destructive moment in the history of Western civilization
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>>68735247
Not to mention how Mussolini's incompetence delayed Barbarossa by months and bound countless units on the Balkans and in North Africa.

Just by comparing the Red Army to the one that got slaughtered in the Finnish Winter War shows, how much Stalin was able to build up in those months.
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>>68734994
>>68735119

Was the USSR going to invade Poland with or with out German support? If so you can imagine the need to invade Poland because letting soviets get that close is dangerous in itself. the USSR was war bound from the get go. Germany was collecting Germans and the soviets were collecting slavs
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Yes. Russia first.
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>>68735247
hitlers tanks wouldnt have made it to moscow, they had to go south. it was his downfall, not stockpiling enough.
>>68735418
unlikely, if they took moscow, their spirit of the wouldve likely wavered
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>>68735565
why don't you follow your leader and eat a bullet
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>>68735572
>I would miss the shitposting
for a while. we shitpost because we dont have other choice.
Living in a completely open world will be fantastic.
I will miss get sad when 70s will start thought.
It seems like its fun when its from 30 to 60. Then you understand that you are an old person and there is a sign of computers and iterned coming and you will die till 2000 and will not be a part of current world.
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>>68734244
fpbp
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They actually put the charismatic guy in charge, instead of just having him be a publicity puppet.
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>>68734062

Japan didn't attack the Soviet Union from the east
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>>68734956
This essentially

He put Naziism before logic and reasoning. Faith in his ideology before the strategy of his generals. Promoted those who were better Nazis but more incompetent leaders and disliked the better generals who were not "true nazis".

Hitler could have rolled through Ukraine as a "saviour" type to free ukraine from the soviet union and would have had millions ready to join him. Instead he branded them all useless slavs and turned them back into enemies.

He refused to let his men take a backwards step and would rather have let millions of good soldiers die than retreat and live to fight another day. Hitler wanted to be Napoleon so bad and be the conquerer of europe instead o letting his top men do their thing.
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>>68734062
Being a fascist dictator that was a dick to everyone, especially Poland. Everyone knows that they were the evil aggressors in this war and that Hitler needed to be stopped before his insanity destroyed Europe.

Fuck these stormweenie threads talking about a psychopath you people really need to go outside and away from your computers for once in your life.
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>>68735832

Because you're a dirty jew syrup nigger
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>>68735832

Communists are even worse than fucking Muslims.
At least a good number of Muslims look stupid enough to be Muslims with scraggly beards.
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>>68735970
>Faith in his ideology before the strategy of his generals.
Or the ideas of his smartest heads.
Or the idea to keep your smartest heads.
Or the idea not to alienate useful people because your ideology says so.

He refused sensible aircraft designs because they weren't aryan enough. Never put the ideologist in charge.
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>>68735965
Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Pact was signed in April '41 already. Adolf knew that the Japs wouldn't be able to help since they got their asses beat at Khalkhin Gol and were busy with the Chinese.
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Why do krauts never post pics of places that shit went down during the war?
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>>68735418
>Except taking Moscow would have done nothing to stop the Soviet industry
Except of course that the Moscow region was by far the most powerful industrial centre in Russia and was a hub of tank production at the time. It was also the hub of Russia's rail system.

>the government would have kept retreating east.
Yeah, imagine how that would have looked to the average Soviet soldier. Stalin would have very rapidly lost power if he abandoned Moscow, much like if Hitler had retreated from Berlin.

>Taking Moscow would have been incredibly costly
Not really. Barbarossa was a story of Germans rapidly advancing for minimal cost.

> It would have only been good for propaganda, and would have been a pyrrhic victory.
I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from. Presumably from post-war Allied propaganda that has developed the meme that Germany could never have won. I recommend reading Hitler's Panzers East. Stolfi pretty much outlines exactly why Germany would have won had they seized Moscow by August (which they quite simply could have had the forces available not been diverted).

>>68735698
The delay was irrelevant. There was still plenty of time to push the Soviets across the Volga. The Russian counterattacks during the winter of 41 to 42 were the result of the Germans not seizing Moscow. Without Moscow, there would have been no Typhoon.
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>>68736234
Because we don't wanna end up in one of Merkel's Tolerance Camps.
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>>68735220
Better dead than red.
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>>68734062
Adolf Hipster went wrong...
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>>68736104
Unfortunately he believed 100% that he got to the position he did thanks to his ideology and that it was the ideology of national socialism that was destined for victory.

But yeah in hindsight, with still total control of th country and propaganda it would have been so easy to tell the public one thing and then do another if it means achieving victory.

Sometimes sticking absolutely to your ideology and moral code can be a bad thing if you can never adapt to a new situation.
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>>68736254
The delay was relevant since German tanks got stuck in the snow in October when only 28km outside of Moscow. Just a month or two earlier and Moscow could've been taken.
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>>68736033
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>>68736075
>At least a good number of Muslims look stupid enough to be Muslims with scraggly beards.
What did they mean by this?
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>>68736380
>But yeah in hindsight, with still total control of th country and propaganda it would have been so easy to tell the public one thing and then do another if it means achieving victory.
You wouldn't even really have to. Just put a spin to it that a man can refute his ancestry and prove himself valuable anyways. Then declare the most valuable people as protected because they've distinguished themselves for the empire, and use them as an example of why the rest of them, who could've done the same but refused to (now tained by heritage and action) should definitly be sent off to camps.
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>>68736463
I guess he meant they at least mark themselves eliminating any need to put stars or halfmoons on them.
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>>68735220
>the moment the Jews defeated the white man
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>>68736319
That can be arranged
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>>68736277
If I lived in Europe I would definitely spend a month or so out of a year going around to all the battlefields and shit. Pics like these are cool as fuck to me
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>>68734062
America happen. Thats what went wrong
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>>68736551
>the ukrainian people who fought for the reich are honorary aryans. We have found ancient documents proving this. These people under the sunmission of slavs for so long could stand up and fight for the reich and distinguish themselves. Why cant you do it fellow german? Seig heil
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If he took over England, France AND Spain before attack Russia, he would have a much larger chance of winning.

Should have waited until the US was taken care of, before attacking Russia.
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>>68736938
USSR won the war, we didn't do much desu senpai. Except for D-Day.
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>>68736861
Ironic: I stood on that very same when I met my fiancée 3 years back.

Personally, I much rather visit places like Portugal or Ireland - places that were not robbed of their old beauty by wars and leftism.
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>>68737048
>spain
Literally why?
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>>68737048
I think taking Spain or even allying with them would've been a large hindrance. Their military wouldn't have been able to properly secure that long coastline. Could've become a larger handicap than Italy.
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>>68737110
In a way it would make it more surreal though. To think about what it was compared to what it is now. For example, what is in the place of the former Reichstag?
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>>68737048
The US was never going to be "taken care of", that just wasn't realistically going to happen. Germany had neither the navy nor the army or even just the resources to pull this off. Neither did Japan, though they at least had a remote shot through the navy.

As for Russia, the longer you wait, the stronger it gets. They weren't going to sit by idly forever and be content with what they have. That's not how commies do things.

No, attacking Russia was the correct decision. Russia needed to be out of the way as soon as possible, so long as you still have the advantage of a surprise attack.
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>>68736254
>I recommend reading Hitler's Panzers East. Stolfi pretty much outlines exactly why Germany would have won had they seized Moscow by August

What exactly are the terms of victory for Germany during WWII? A lot of misinformed people believe that Hitler wanted world domination, which doesn't sound right since the ideology was "National" Socialism. Lebensraum just means German living space. I've talked to people who really think Germany's goal in the war was to hunt down every last jew and exterminate them.

I assume that a German victory means much of Europe is absorbed into Germany. The relocation most of the slavic populations in Eastern Europe, The destruction of the Soviet Empire, Great Britain, USA and other major countries remain sovereign countries. Is this accurate?
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>>68736861

That is the saddest picture I've ever seen.
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>>68737235
The Reichstag still stands you know. All they changed was a glas dome on top. Everything around however... it just makes you sad.

And I've been there: I used to go on /pol/ to get my daily dose of rage from whatever stories were shared here, but I've just grown tired of straining my heart and would rather not visit historical sites that would just leave me mourning for what was lost.
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>>68737266
So maybe he should have attacked it earlier?
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>>68737337
Your nation used to be a treasure and now it's a laughing stock. This is the future you chose, Hans
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>>68737427
Should and would, if Italy hadn't dropped the ball so hard. Much earlier was unfeasible, though.
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>>68735132
Elaborate?
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>>68737424
I want to visit Germany more than any other country in the world. I'm a college student and broke as fuck so it's more of a bucket list pipe dream, but still. It's always seemed other-worldly to me.

Is the interior of the Reichstag still similar too?
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>>68737273
Originally the plan was just to take Poland and Russia. Things escalated from September '39 onwards though, so the goalposts were moved towards hegemonialism.

Goes back to what Old Willy or Napoleon wanted initially, before politics escalated and forced them to think bigger.
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>>68735220
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>>68737600
They have thoroughly modernized it.
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>>68737445

Damn that looks beautiful

>its now full of sandniggers and rapefugees
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>>68737600
Sorry to crush your hopes, but the interior is modern shit cooked up by merchants. Same for the Berlin City Castle which is currently being rebuilt, but with some 'modern open democratic' interior.

If you really love beautiful architecture and old glory, I'd recommend Paris and Rome. They are both way better than they get credit for.

As for Germany, try places lesser known, like the Basteibrücke or Walhalla. Other than that, try Bavaria since they were mostly spared and are a conservative stronghold. You have nice old historic sites throughout the country, but they just seem out of place and alien in the larger picture of filth that you will get. It might be better to not taint that ideal image you have in your head right now.
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>>68737110
gib moni pls
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>>68737786
Still seems really cool to be in there and know it's where Hitler almost managed to beat the Jew.
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>>68738058
Nah, Bavaria is fucking beautiful. Everytime I visit, we always go see the castles and the countryside. I would live there if my German was stronger.
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>>68734062
Facism couldn't support the economy. Production halted under forced labor. Capitalism and the free market won in the end.
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>>68738058
Where did Hitler live when he was actually in Berlin?
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Why didn't America and Germany ally?
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>>68738400
Because America was already bought out by Jews by then
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>>68738356
u wot m8? Hitler did wonders for the economy, the only thing that went wrong was that Russia outlasted the Blitzkrieg
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>>68734062
Amerilards
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>>68737424
>would just leave me mourning for what was lost.

Well if you guys keep letting the Muslims have their way with your country, you'll have facism again soon enough. Only it will be islamic based instead of racial-nationalist with a bit of eugenics mixed in.

>>68737445
You know all the splendor is propaganda right? It's purposely made to make you think it's great. In reality, Germany wouldn't have gone far with facism had they decided to not push their luck in WW2.
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>>68738393
Reichskanzlei.
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>>68738400
An America, Germany, British alliance would have been the greatest of all time.
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>>68734062

Spread his forces too thin.
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>>68737273
The plan was to look something like this if they had won.

As >>68737659 said the original plan wasnt to conquer europe. But after invading Poland the UK and France declared war, Hitler didnt want them too as it meant they would have to be knocked out before tackling the soviets. Then Denmark and Norway started blocking shipping and vital resources so they needed to be taken care of too. Easiest way to get to france was through Belgium so they and the Netherlands had to be taken also. Then it was like "fuck it" and Yugoslavia and greece etc were attacked
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>>68738561
That would have been cool. It really feels like white people were tricked into stabbing eachother in the back.
But by whom I wonder.
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>>68738356
Then why is the free market in shambles now? The masses no longer believe in the international system. Why is that?
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>>68738523
Every single nation puts out propaganda. Germany's was the best because their vision was the best.
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>>68734062
He ruined everything for us. I guess it's not too late though
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>>68738621
Yugoslavia actually entered the Axis for a day or so before having a coup d'état and exiting again. Basically they saw their invasion as an "intervention". Greece was a failed solo-invasion of Italy forcing Hitler's hand as the Brits were gaining a nice ally and beachhead down there.
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>>68738591
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>>68738548
Perfect example of one of the places I'd want to visit. I live 20 minutes away from Andrew Jackson's plantation and I've been twice.

Something about retracing the steps of history is tits
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>>68738662
Killing off all the alpha genes and only leaving the cunning autist shitposting DNA
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>>68738916
Has been destroyed in the war and completely removed in 1949.
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>>68738855
Fucking italy
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>>68739022
REEEEEEEEEEEE

but surely the location is still known right?
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>>68734062
The first world war was a mistake. The German people did not stand up to their emperor enough. And had to pay too much for it afterwards. They made decisions that had to go wrong.
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>>68735971
Poland was publicly encouraging discrimination against ethnic Germans. The ethnic Germans were regularly beaten, raped and executed before Hitler invaded Poland. He did so only to protect the Germans that were suffering by the thousands.
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>>68739089
I could show you a photo, but you really don't wanna see the place.
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>>68739267
What's the nature of the property? It'd be bizarre to live on the same plot of land that Hitler did
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>>68739386
People still live there, but the area is pretty much a ghetto and still looks a little bit like a wasteland - not the 'ruins of the a distant past' type, but the type that looks like an abandoned construction site.
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>>68739102
>stand up to their emperor
Germanys mistake was just not winning the first world war
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>>68739593
Speaking of ruins
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>>68734062
What went wrong was that he was paranoid Stalin is cooking plans against him, and wanted to take action first. He sent his soldiers in summer/fall equipment, and didn't prepare them for winter because he thought he can blitzkrieg Russia. And therefore got fucked.

Sad, I wish he wasn't paranoid and took it slower.
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"One people, one Reich, one leader"
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>>68739704
Dresden looks better than most German cities nowadays actually. I just don't like their dialect and their women are all fucking crazy.
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>>68739704
>Trump Haus
Trump = Hitler confirmed
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>>68734062
Hitler was a fucking retard
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>>68739871
kek, I saw that too
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>>68739871
Actually it reads "Strumpf" - sock/stocking.
"Trumpf" is indeed trump though.
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>>68734062
He was a socialist.
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>>68739865
In Germany, where's the white/slav trash? Where are the rapefugees? Where, if any, are the respectable Aryans?
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>>68734244
This.
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>>68734062

We all failed him and I didn't realise Hitler idolised Britain so much until recently, we should have allied ourselves with him and Germany, could have made the world a better place.
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>>68739902
he was breddy smart actually
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>>68740052
Imagine America, Britcuckistan, and Germany teaming up to btfo Russia and the kikes. We'd be living in a utopia right now senpai
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>>68740069
>he was breddy smart actually
That's why he's lost, amirite? :DD
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>>68739749
You're kidding right? It became known after the war that Russia had planned on invading only 17 days after Hitler took the offensive. It wasn't a delusion. Stalin was going to try to take over Europe.
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>>68740134
>imagine
>America, Britain and Germany teaming up to btfo Russia
>imagine

Yes, you can just imagine. :)
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>>68740027
White SJWs -> Rhineland
White Trash -> most of the East
Rapefugees -> South & West

Normal White People -> North (sans Bremen and Hamburg), parts of Bavaria and the Palatinate.
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>>68740147
Yes, but Hitler would have better chances on Eastern European territory rather than Russia though. Why even think you can blitzkrieg a country bigger than continents?
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>>68740147

I wish Germany had won more than anyone but that's a load of fucking hogwash
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>>68740143
No, he was just outnumbered desu
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>>68740143
He was facing the US, Britain, France and the Soviet Union. The US gave billions of dollars in supplies to the British troops before joining the war themselves. I'd say holding out against those nations for as long as he did is an indication of how smart he was.
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>>68736104
>>68736380

>muh perfect aryan race
>muh true nazis
>muh IQ

so you mean he was just like every other natsoc?

incompetent leader is incompetent
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>>68734062
Specifically, invading Russia.

But let's not forget the genocide, ethically wrong experimentation, slavery, and conquest.

Say the nazis focused on Aryan bloodlines and offered prestigious positions for purifying and advancing the race they's have created the next evolution of mankind by now.

Scientifically they'd be the most powerful force on Earth, too.
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From this
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>>68740353
to this
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>>68740290
>starts a war
>loses it
>people still think he was smart
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>>68740258
To be fair: Russia's population is concentrated in the European part - any remnants east of the Ural couldn't really have done too much due to lack of manpower and proper farmland.

Plus, Russia lost the War of 1904/05; WW1 to merely half the German Army; and performed badly against both Poland and Finland between 1918 and 1941, so Hitler had no proper reason to assume them to be a tough cookie.
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>>68740270
Source:
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html

Also The Greatest Story Never Told documentary.
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>>68740406
He didn't start the war, you dumb fuck. Churchill was told by his Jew overlords to start a war with Germany. Hitler reached out multiple times to Chamberlain to make peace, they refused.

The entire war was about Germany breaking away from the international banking cabal (same reason Saddam and Ghadafi got killed) along with the fact that a pure white aryan master race would prove problematic for the zionists
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>>68740444
Well, Russia failed many times when they invaded someone, but almost never failed when they defended themselves in their borders. It's just that their climate and geographical position is insane for defensive state. Like I said, sad that Hitler thought invading is better than waiting and ambushing. That way he could've won it.

Also, yes, Russian population is highest on the west side of it, but they switched battle positions when they heard he's invading.
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Does anyone have that Seal of Kek image?
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>>68740406
He eliminated the unemployment in Germany in under 5 years. He made Germany the most prosperous nation in Europe. He erased degeneracy and stressed the importance of education and physical fitness.
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Any krauts want to translate all of this?
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>>68740544

>still believing in muh aryan race
>your best example lost because of incompetence

lmao
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>>68740544
Did ze Jews cause the occupation of Czechoslovakia in 1939 as well?
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>>68740544
This. He sent 24 letters of peace to Britain and Winston Churchill didn't accept.
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>>68740565
Waiting would've been wrong imo. The Soviet industry was growing rapidly and already outperforming Germany in raw numbers. Meanwhile the German economy required constant conquests to not break under that international embargo. Hitler tried to defeat them before it was too late. View it like Greek mythology: Chronos eating those he is afraid of while they're still kids, because he knows that they'll be able to kill him once they grow up.
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>>68740685
>incompetence
The Nazis overachieved in lasting as long as they did. Italy's military was fucking useless and Japan was on the other side of the world. It was quite literally Germany against the entire Western Hemisphere.
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>>68740700
>not wanting to be part of the reich

Smh.
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>>68740700
More land for the Aryans. You have to crack eggs to make an omelette
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>>68740799
I don't know much about Hitler, I'm still learning. Can you redpill me more with some legit articles that are not some bullshit propaganda or something? Or red pill me yourself, I just want to know more.
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>>68734956
>>68735970
>>68736104
>>68736380

>ITT: /pol/ in furious denial

your greatest example failed because of "Not Muh perfect aryan race!"

when will you learn

>>68740899

fail aryan race is fail. he could have won if it wasn't for your dumb ideals.
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>>68740217
>Bremen and Hamburg
Literally full of sandniggers and albanians. You're delusional. That "white trash" in the East are the only people that still have some nationalism going on.
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>>68740943
Well, I'm a history major (inb4 'hurr, no STEM'), so what do you want to know specifically?
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Why did they always do the coolest shit, /pol/?
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>>68740943
Watch The Greatest Story Never Told. It's really long but full of great information. All he wanted was to protect his people, really.
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>>68740943
Read Mein Kampf. Seriously.
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>>68740656
You didn't even try, didn't you? It says "Great politics show in library of german musem in Munich". I don't know what ewide means but I bet it's not any positive.
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>>68741033
'sans' means without, my friend.

And I am from the East - hell, I was even born a citizen of the GDR. I know what kind of people live here.
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>>68741081
I don't speak German, of course I didn't try. The least you Eurocucks could do for us is translate shit
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>>68735828
>Russian spirit
>wavered

It took more balls to be a deserter than to be killed by a german rifle.
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>>68740943
Manlet who started shit, gets rekt by glorious Red Army
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>>68739865
Crazy?
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>>68740925
There we go.
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>>68741081
'ewige'
Der ewige Jude - The eternal Jew
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>>68741216
>crunch
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>>68734062
Hitler

Had little going for him beyond charisma.
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>>68741244
Aren't Czechs dirty slavs?
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>>68741123
So what's the point? I don't even disagree that we have lots of trash in the East but the real white trash is in the West, the trash that destroys the country with their anti-white and anti-German agenda.
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>>68741067
>All he wanted was to protect his people, really.

Yeah I'm aware of that. I love the man. I'll watch it, thanks a bunch anon

>>68741079
I bought it the other day, it's sitting collecting dust since then because I don't have time. I was planning on reading it for years though. Will do. What is it about specifically? I'm a youngster that dedicated his life in learning study fields for my future and not much history, sorry for ignorance.
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>>68741241
They are horribly bubbly, never mentally grow out of puberty, yet have the taste of a woman in her 40s when they've only reached their 20s. They're just weird.
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>>68741294
We're more germanic than Germany is nowadays
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>>68734062
Should've used ground forces to take over England. Shouldn't have invaded Russia. Should've let Russia strike first for world appeal and sympathy.
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>>68741307
Yeah, I mentioned them as SJWs. White trash has other connotations in the US though, and those Jogginganzugträger are pretty much our version of them.
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>>68741294
Fuck no, they're friends who most Germans ignore for some retarded reason.
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>>68741316
It's essentially his autobiography, but he lays out in great detail how he became the man he was. He explains his doctrine in great detail.
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>>68741445
I know what it means but the point is that it makes us sound like the absolute worst people in the country.
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>>68741435
I considered that but Germany was already at war with UK and the USA was on the side of britain too
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>>68741435
Germany could have ended the war at Dunkirk

But muh ethics
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>>68734062
Went wrong from the beginning. Borrowed money to fund public works to fix the economy. Had to wage a war to pay it back
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>>68736938
If we didn't step in the German people would have been annihilated by the Soviets. We preserved them and fostered them to grow up strong again and what do they do? All that work and then they just let in the fucking muslims.
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>>68734062
jews
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>>68734062
>What went wrong?

The "socialist" part. Hitler's obsession with micromanagement went beyond just his constant meddling in his general's plans.
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>>68741316
I cried when it came to the part of Hitler killing himself. I never in my life thought that would happen because I believed the lie that he was the most evil person alive because of 'The Holocaust' but after watching that film, it just broke my heart that he lost and was forced to take his own life.
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totalitarian governments don't work
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>>68741539
Exactly. He had too much mercy...And everyone paints him as the evilest man to ever walk the Earth.
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>>68741625
Please. We're your puppets, just like the EU is a great proxy project to wage war against Russia. I'm not saying that our local faggots in charge don't have an interest in this as well but you're calling the shots.
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>>68734659
Huge kek at swedes who blame jews
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>>68741757

no he was just stupid.

had chance to win and didn't

deserved to lose tbhfam
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>>68741700
Yeah it's pretty depressing to think how broken he must have been in those final days
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Adolf Hitler (1) vs Stalin, Churchill, Truman (3)
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>>68741539
The idea was actually that this act of mercy could show his goodwill and move Churchill to make peace and eventually even become an ally against the Soviets.
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>>68742108
I still don't know why he was naive enough to think that the Jews would have any honor and tell their Allied stooges to stop fucking with Germany.

Think how close he came. If he doesn't call off the dogs at Dunkirk, Germany wins the war in 1940. Fug
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>>68741041
experts at propaganda.

it's as potent today as it was back then.
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>>68742253

>M-Muh Aryan Race!
>such sports in war!
>truly superior to us in every way!
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>>68742253
The conflict between Germany and Britain in WWI was seen as the true historic disaster at the time, since the Anglos are racial brothers. It is an old doctrine in German history to not kill your brother - just like Prussia beat Austria's ass in 1866, but had Bismarck go soft on them to gain them as allies henceforth. In many ways, trying to 'learn from the past' made Adolf take the wrong turns.
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>>68734062
>>68734062
Government cencorship and propaganda.

AND NOT FROM HIS GOVERNMENT.
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>>68740217
>East
>White trash

They're the only decent germans left and ethnically most homogenous region. They're blamed for every minor shit like being "nazis" and "racist", while being laughed at for their subpar post-socialist economy.

http://www.spiegel.de/schulspiegel/laendervergleich-mathematik-und-naturwissenschaften-nach-bundeslaendern-a-927282.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=https
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>>68742561

>superior Aryan Race Indeed!!!
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Genocide.
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>>68738666
>Then why is the free market in shambles now?

Because people and government think the free market works better by being heavily regulated and controlled.

>The masses no longer believe in the international system. Why is that?

Socialist and communist propaganda.
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>>68735247
>he shoulda took moscow
When will this fucking meme die? "Take Moscow" - yeah, that shit sure worked for Napoleon, didn't it?
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>>68735247
he struggled to take over stalingrad, how the fuck was he supposed to take moscow?
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>>68735392
Nazi guards and some soldiers were. He wasn't. He slept without fear that he would need to be awake at a certain point. Why would he?
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he went into a war he had no chance of winning and destroyed germany and europe

he underestimated the Russians and once USA entered he had no chance in hell
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he lost
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>>68734062

The NSDAP leadership as well a much of it's paramilitary branches (SS and SA) were a band of unprincipled hooligans and lackey whose talent primarily lay in terrorizing dissenters rather than running an actual country, let alone running a war. They fought amongst themselves incessantly and their outrageous behavior only earned them the world's ire, rather than sympathy.

They lacked both the sort of moral and spiritual discipline and the principal that allowed the founders of the American Revolution to work together to defeat the British and create a sustainable government afterwards.

As Goering himself once remarked during the Nuremberg Trials, "look around this cellblock and what do you see? Yes men. All the no men are six feet underground."

You shouldn't be asking why the Third Reich failed, you should be asking how did it manage to last so long? How did it despite it's monumental blunders and being subjected to a punishing barrage from air, land, and sea manage to hold out for six years against the largest military coalition the world has ever known?
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>>68735247
they had already moved all of their shit to the Urals

Moscow isnt a droid control ship, the Soviets wouldnt all suddenly shut down if he captured it
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>>68743703
He didn't want to go to war with Britain and France. He sent multiple letters of peace (around 24) to Winston Churchill but Winston wasn't going for it. Hitler was trying to free the ethnic Germans in East Prussia because they were being beaten and killed and the women were being raped.
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>>68735572
I think it's Nürnberg. It was of the most beautiful cities before it was bombed
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>>68734062
They spent all their money on banners and podiums.
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>>68734659

Yeah, men from Texas to Maine drowned in an ocean free concentration camp prisoner pussy why you fuckers were cucked by Russian rape gangs.

Stay mad kraut.
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>>68734994
Prior to 1941, Germany and Russia had a rather unusual trade relationship where Germany received Russian raw materials and crops in exchanged for manufactured goods.

Hitler basically got greedy and decided to take Russia's resources for himself.

On top of that, one of the first and foremost goals of National Socialism was the eventual destruction of Judaism and Communism and conquering Eastern Europe would accomplish both those goals.
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>>68740154
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>>68741993
"We" blame Americans, I blame the country for giving up on religion.
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>>68744029
>using a name on /pol/
>celebrating the death of the West
Get a load of this faggot.
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>>68734062
meth.
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>>68735965
>japs

kek, the soviets beat the shit out of those schlitzaugen in china in a flash.
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Hitler was a dumb shit who turned down a lot of great inventions from his own country that would have aided them in the war.
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>>68734674
>He took on Russia too soon

are you retarded? Hitler came too late
Just a few year earlier and the soviet had no chance because there wasnt industy.

Imagine hitler would attack the soviets in the 1944/45, he would face IS-2 and IS-3 who are 100time better than the german crap
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>>68735965
Really the biggest problem was letting the nips attack the US. After WWI we didn't want to be involved in another war, but then they fuck it all up and attack Pearl Harbor and bring in the one country Hitler didn't want to fuck with.
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He was a middling leader surrounded by amazing people that got very lucky, that became a crappy leader when he became a major fucking methhead and he stopped listening to competent people.

I feel his entire plan was overconfident in a way. Could he have really dealt with all the insurgencies as spread out as nazi germany would have been? How was he ever going to deal with the US and their manufacturing base joining the war?
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What did go right.
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>>68745475

>NOT MUH ARYAN RACE
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>>68745751
But neither did Germans had worthwhile army until 40 or so, until Czech industry was "aquired".
Czechoslovakian army was superiour to German, but numerically smaller and beset with backstabbing Poles. In 38 Poland and Czechoslovakia were enough to beat the shit out of Germany.

Stalin indeed planned to assault Europe, so Germany was doomed either way.
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>>68734062
Same thing as Napoleon he was tricked by the warmongering deceivers Rothschild who finance both side of every war since 1760
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>>68734062
jews
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>>68740025
Only Jews hate socialism
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>>68745751
Why is this an argument? He would have won had he moved on Moscow instead of Stalingrad as his generals wanted.

He lost because of strategical choices not due to timing. He also could have committed more troops on Russia with less in the west and Africa but he made BAD choices.
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>>68746874
>commits troops to africa
>doesnt let them retreat to sicily
>actively blocks their retreat by sea and orders them to fight to the death
>end up surrendering
Hitler made some bad choices alright
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>fire 1000 shot firework battery from that place on new years eve
>feels good man

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fberliner-unterwelten.de%2Ffiles%2Fcache%2F8ee184521f40c373%2Cb0%2C800%2C270%2C0%2C71%2C535%2C.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fberliner-unterwelten.de%2Fflakturm-humboldthain.50.0.html&h=180&w=535&tbnid=b-IkgReHais3zM%3A&docid=TrBlxfxjA2bVcM&ei=ixv1Vqi0I8Wb6AT4rqnYBQ&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=619&page=2&start=26&ndsp=35&ved=0ahUKEwjopbrc2NvLAhXFDZoKHXhXClsQrQMIuQEwMg
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>ok i fucked up

wanted to post this:

http://berliner-unterwelten.de/
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>>68734866
>be grandpa
>it's 1940something
>Amerifats and Canadians start bombing your village
>6 year old girl from next door is killed
>house burned by stupid slavs
Why did we have to lose?
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>>68734062
He let jews escape to america...
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I'll tell you what the fuck went wrong. Like all great men, he was surrounded by fucking beta's, fucking cucks, who brought that man down by failing to stand up to him.

All it would have taken would have been someone to say 'Adolf,are you fucking nuts?! You can't fight Russia and the UK'

But no, surrounded by half men, who whispered what he wanted to hear, he fucking went balls deep.

Also, those crazy ass Japs blowing pearl harbor up didn't help.

Course, they're fucking LAUGHING now. Europe is in shit, and they're sitting there with non of the shit we have to deal with.
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>>68734062

He was a socialist leader fighting against other socialist countries using marxist techniques of population control and a suicide war strategy.

You cannot beat jews and commies at their own game. And you cannot create an empire based on supremacist german faggotry. Epic fail Mr.Hitler.
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>>68735572
>>68743965
Yes, it is Nürnberg. The coat of arms is visible and it looks like a southern city at that time, not like Berlin did.
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>>68735965
>Japan didn't attack the Soviet Union from the east
Cuz 30% of Soviet troops were in the East
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>>68748479

What do you have to deal with?
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