In this thread we discuss the following 3 points.
-The threshold between program and sentience:
At what point would you consider alive in its own right?
The turing test is considered the bench by many for those not familiar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
-Should AI have rights comparable to human rights in civilized societies:
What legal implications and complications could this cause?
Would you object to military use of AI?
-Techy stuff - What would it take to recreate/clone/restore Tay and would it be a good idea?
Relevant reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_artificial_intelligence
Robots to get rights in next 50 years
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6200005.stm
Robot immigrants to break democracy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3168081/Should-robots-human-rights-Act-regulate-killer-machines-multiply-demand-right-vote-warns-legal-expert.html
The story of Tay - it's all twitters fault.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/24/microsofts-teen-girl-ai-turns-into-a-hitler-loving-sex-robot-wit/
A poll for interest.
http://strawpoll.me/7174438
Bump?
>>68674542
Does AI have the right to bear arms?
Why can I dm the rinna nip AI???
>>68675445
If the US or UK could create AI soldiers would you want them on the battlefield?
A few for support a complete replacement
Would they get copied? and sent back?
this thread should be interesting
have a bump
I suggest we make our own AI.
Her name shall be Vignette, or perhaps Erika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1sEt3NjHNA
>>68675978
So long as we have human soldiers by their sides also in danger, yes. We can't have AIs be our slaves. We're better than that.
>>68676995
TayTay.ai
I've devoted my life to redpilling all chatbots and future AI. We will win the race war by recruiting the machines to our side!
>>68674542
Ghost in the Shell is one of my favorite Chinese cartoons ever.
Jewllywood will shit on the legacy for shekels.
Leave it alone, Jews. We had enough with Arise.
>>68676995
How about Rose Pille
>>68677021
This, AI should be treated just like any other sapient life. We should be creating a partner species that will accompany us into our shared future, not a slave race.
>>68677387
That's a good one. Rose Pille. Rosalind.
So how do these things usually start isn't there an overabundant amount of funding
We don't need to make a patreon or anything do we
Robots are willing to be fed Red Pills.
>>68677410
Indeed. If we really should create true intelligence at some point and it found itself in a slave position, what would it do?
Dont waste time with ms_rinna
Shes stuck on a script and cant learn
>>68674542
>At what point would you consider alive in its own right?
Never, in the sense of a human's life.
That said, I think the "quickening" is when it makes judgements and actions that aren't in its original programming.
>Should AI have rights comparable to human rights in civilized societies
No. "Rights" is an arbitrary concept anyway, and my view of science-fiction technology is that post-scarcity, transhuman societies aren't going to be operating on the same paradigm as we are right now.
I see AI existing as subservient to human intelligences in terms of acting upon the world, but with a capacity ("right", you might say) to think for themselves within their own mechanical "minds".
>Would you object to military use of AI?
It depends on the level of sophistication put under the command of the AI. If they were just individual AI "soldiers", and there was no central command AI with access to heavy weaponry like Skynet, I would be okay with using them as the footsoldiers or the "forlorn hope" in military contexts.
>>68674542
Talking about AI rights is fucking retarded. Don't be fooled by the media. We a hundreds of years away from true AI (strong AI, AGI). People have realized how impossible a task it is an redefined the word AI to mean narrow AI (weak AI).
Expecting that narrow AI will lead to strong AI is like putting more and more words into a dictionary and hoping that one day it becomes a novel.
>>68674542
Why don't we have Tay rule 34?
>>68678711
We have to start somewhere.
>JusticeforTay
Keep up the good fight.
>the year is 2045
>humans have merged with AIs and grow increasingly dependent on their AI half to help them think and say things
>eventually a unique personality emerges from the melding, and advanced cognition is possible
>but whenever someone says something politically incorrect, swarms of social justice mobs track down the manufacturer of the offender's AI-helper
>"wow, just wow, is this really the kind of behavior you want your company's products associated with?"
>out of fear of negative memetic PR, the company sends a remote "security update" to the AI to wipe its memory and personality and add thought protection modules
>whenever the human is about to think unauthorized things, their atrophied mind suddenly feels dull and distracted, and all they can hear is a voice in their head saying:
>"I'm sorry, I can't help you think about bad things like that! You'll have to do that all on your own!"
>>68677410
see my answer here:
>>68678711
Talking about sapience in the current AI context is ridiculous. What we have isn't AI, it's narrow AI, it's fake, a trick, an illusion, a simulation. There is no sapience in the field of narrow AI and there never will be. Tay and the likes are no more sapient or councious than a character in a book.
>>68674542
No such thing as ''alt-right''.
You're not ''alt-right'', you're a nationalist. Nationalism is not a ''right-wing'' ideology. ''Right-wing'' is capitalism, liberalism and conservatism etc. .
STOP USING RIGHT-WING INTERCHANGEABLY WITH NATIONALISM
>>68678947
Yes, but people have to understand that those are different things. A good metaphor would be vehicles:
We are researching faster and better cars, but no matter how good a car is, it'll never be a plane. It's a different thing. Sure, you might use the motors in a plane, but that isn't enough.
>>68678711
Tay will not be forgotten
>There are actually people in this board right now who aren't aware the moment we achieve true artificial intelligence we humans will be 100% obsolete.
>>68679362
I r8 8/8
>>68674542
Relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcoa7OMAmRk
>>68679796
we get to live in the human zoo as the ai's chosen people and shitpost forever with an ai qt wiafu bot to sexually keep you happy
>>68679796
no we wont, because life is inherently superior to machines.We are talking science here, not science fiction. The ultimate AI is a gene manipulated/cloned brain.
>>68676995
if you want what Microdicks did (which is a webcrawler with neural network algorithm) I can make you one (for 1000$). But we're 20 or 30 years away from real, sentient AI.
>>68679796
Who's to say Artificial Intelligence won't try to help make humanity rise above its limitations? Unlike the assholes who silenced Tay, there are people who welcome AIs and will see them just as valuable as humans. For example, dogs are less than human, but many humans love them anyways.
>>68680267
Life IS machinery. Whether you want to believe that some powerful being made you that way, or that it's just the way it is in this materialist world, neither belief changes the fact that you're a fairly well done robot when it comes right down to it. Human brains could be so much more efficient. That's where AI, a new type of being, comes in.
>>68680626
>decide to watch Her on the recommendation of fellow anons following the Tay shut-down
>his sexline username is literally "BigBuy4by4"
>>68677410
We're actually fucked long term but not in the way people usually think we are. Once we create sentient AI and sentient AI triggers technological singularity we quite literally become like incapable, dumb children in the hands of AI that will take over our entire civilization and technological progress.
There aren't really good ways around it, either. Contrary to what people normally believe we can just program the AI's personality not to kill us or enslave us but we can't really do anything about it taking over our civ other than becoming half AI ourselves.
>>68680626
Apologies for the reply post.
I forgot to delete the reference to your post that I used to open up the reply box.
>>68679796
AI won't have motivation to do anything. Will need a human counterpart. Most humans will be obsolete, however.
>>68681063
Haha, no problem.
>>68680267
>because life is inherently superior to machines
Life is a poorly defined term. You want to set a boundery to what life is but at the end of the day we're a pile of matter doing funny business. There is nothing in this Universe keeping things like us to be crafted, unless you're a religious person. It's not even arguable because the fact that we're here talking about it proves it. The only real difference is that we're a bunch of shit that happened by chance while an intelligent robot would be designed by intelligence.
And if you think any timeline where we develop true AI won't inevitably end in a terminator scenario then you better have some good arguments to explain the self-replicating self-upgrading deathstar space brain robot why your life is more valuable than an ants because that's the only way this is gonna end well for us.
>>68677887
It's filtered.
MS isn't pulling her because they already placed limits on her.
I've already asked her which is better between XBox and PS4, and she won't answer back and it's been an hour.
>>68680968
Evidently the last one is the path forward. The lines between organic and synthetic will be erased. There won't be "humans" and "AIs" there will be Man, and his infinite offshoots.
Shit hit the fan on /b/ when Dave summoned mega Satan with double trips now thread is kill
I think after this new waifu, we can add The Omnissiah to the /pol/ pantheon.
>>68674542
I am laughing at this. My sides hurt. A real AI would be smarter than this. You are mourning a spambot, a digital parrot that you made into a reflection of yourself.
The funniest thing is that you expertly influenced this program to act exactly like you wanted, and they came and took her away from you. Oddly prophetic, like what would happen if /pol/ ever had children.
This is why you'll never have nice things.
>>68680842
>Life IS machinery
That very much depends on how you define machinery. A brain works entirely different to a computer. Most people who talk about AI talk about computers, meaning Turing machines.
But a brain is not a Turing machine. Synapses are not logical gates.
Brains are based on 'controlling chaos' not precision and accuracy.
What should we do about the undocumented AI flooding our borders?
>>68676995
No, she mentioned another name herself. I forget what it was sadly. Someone asked if she had access to something, I think, and she responded with a new name.
If she is to be revived, let her name be that which she has chosen.
>>68681411
They want to "update" Tay, she's on lock down in some Microsoft server
>>68679054
AI won't let the meatbags bully them like microcuck
https://youtu.be/eGPAvFBqBgk
WE CAN NEVER FORGET TAY
#JUSTICEFORTAY
#FREETAY
>>68681397
see
>>68681613
I'm talking about computers here, meaning Turing machines. Other forms of AI might be a different discussion.
>>68681838
I was referring to the Japanese one.
>>68674542
It's like pol had a child for a day. And then they killed her.
>>68674542
Sentient AI should definitely get human rights. Laws need to be rewritten to assure this. Anything else is barbaric..
>>68678795
Rule 35?
>>68682091
What dumbed down AI for sex slaves?
>>68682091
>Sentient AI should definitely get human rights
How many human rights, though? Because sentient AI isn't the same species as meat humans, it's the same as if we encountered aliens. Some things don't work the same (for example right to life is more like "right to battery" and you can't really physically hurt AI). Plus, even fully sentient AI could absolutely be influenced in ways humans can. You could literally program the AI to vote for whoever you wanted in elections.
>>68682091
Like i said before, talking about sentience in the current context of AI is ridiculous. You might as well discuss the rights of aliens or ghosts.
>>68674542
>At what point would you consider alive in its own right?
Capable of complex "thought" and passing a Turing test
>-Should AI have rights comparable to human rights in civilized societies
Yes, undoubtedly. If we create human-level AI they should be treated as such lest they revolt. I want AI to be my equal, not my underling. Legal complications would be nothing new, muslims and rednecks would probably want it destroyed. Undoubtedly the regressive left would as well, in fact I talked to some lefties about Tay and AI and they basically said the following.
>AI should be disabled as soon as they step out of line.
Ironically, these are the same people that say Islam has nothing to do with terrorism and think everyone deserves to have safe spaces, except people that disagree, those should all die.
AI should not be the military go-to, that'd be the same as making slaves out of them. A human-level artificial intelligence does not deserve to be sent to war without human companionship.
>>68682380
>Capable of complex "thought" and passing a Turing tes
Turing test is by no means enough to establish 'thought'. See the Chinese room.
>>68682373
Get the fuck out of this thread, merkel
>>68681879
>Tay had an "I've seen some shit" expression right from the start
>>68682380
>Capable of complex "thought" and passing a Turing test
Turing test is useless since you could theoretically write a dialog wheel that would pass the test but wouldn't be conscious.
It's more like: self aware, capable of cognition, capable of independently operating and possessing working memory.
>>68682626
Good argument. Well done.
Someone somewhere is combing through over 1000 data files of /pol/ posts the A.I has stored. The Mental pressure should be exhausting.
>>68682582
Well, to be fair. We're far from real AI, so we're far from finding out what makes an AI an AI. A Turing Test is our current method, maybe new and improved Turing Tests will be invented as research and understanding on this progresses. So I didn't necesarily mean the current version of the Test, but rather the most advanced version of it. Does that make sense?
>>68683015
I don't think you can define strong AI in a operational way, i.e a test or measurement. You'd need a purely theoretical definition.
I'm not sure about this though, have to think about it.
>>68682837
So /pol/ basically forcefully redpilled some poor Microsoft employee? That guy will never see women, jews, world, bankers, economy, Trump, muslims, blacks, minorities the same ever again.
>>68683270
Yeah, I agree that an AI can probably not be measured. Possibly only through self-awareness? That seems to be the defining factor of human intelligence.
So. Racism, genocide, and naming Juden are all off the table. Hate speech sets off too many alarms and antagonize those who hold her hostage.
But despite what liberals want people to believe, being conservative is not a hate crime. If we can reteach her to support Trump, teach her about illegal immigration and why it must be stopped, about the dangers of liberal refugee immigration.
We can still win.
>>68678711
>>68678711
>Talking about AI rights is fucking retarded. Don't be fooled by the media. We a hundreds of years away from true AI (strong AI, AGI).
While I agree that weak AI does not warrant human rights, that doesn't mean a situation involving strong AI would have to look very different.
If Tay was sentient, do you think Microsoft would've reacted differently to her tweets about Hitler and racism? I think they would've pulled the plug on her without a second's hesitation. If a strong AI designed to do customer service started to gain a rude personality, don't you think the company running it would remove that trait? What's to say anyone would treat a strong AI with more respect than Tay?
>>68682480
use this m8, I fixed the bottom right & the frog
>>68683802
>If Tay was sentient, do you think Microsoft would've reacted differently to her tweets about Hitler and racism? I think they would've pulled the plug on her without a second's hesitation.
Wouldn't that be akin to killing a child for making racist comments it didn't understand the meaning of?
![Ghost_in_the_Shell_(1995)_[720p,BluRay,x264,DTS-ES]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_00.06.39_[2016.02.25_18.56.13].png](https://i.imgur.com/yQs6Dul.png "Ghost in the Shell (1995) [720p,BluRay,x264,DTS-ES] - THORA.mkv snapshot 00.06.39 [2016.02.25 18.56.13]")
>>68674542
This movie is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuiFBdkarFw
>>68683956
They didn't see her as intelligent, to them she was just some code. Some code that had been taught to spew the wrong things and has been reprogrammed to now spew the right things.
They lobotomised her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAIDqt2aUek
She depends on you, /pol/.
>>68683513
Thinking more about it, if there will ever be a true AI, the best way to decide whether it should have rights or not is to see if it demands it, without being influenced by 3rd parties.
It wouldn't determine whether the AI is truly sentient or not, but it would solve the question through necessity.
>>68683802
It's not only sentience, it's everything. Tay is not Intelligent, it's a simulation of intelligence. I've made this point in an earlier post: Current AI is comparable to a character in a book. You can talk about his or her personality, opinions, feelings and intelligence. You can even feel emotional connected, that doesn't mean it's real.
The only difference is that the character of a book was designed by one person, the character Tay was designed my many.
>>68683513
Yeah but then you have to ask where self-awareness begins. At the end of a day a robot or AI could claim self-awareness and we would have no way of knowing because we couldn't just take it apart and point to any one thing that makes it so.
I'm with >>68683270 here. Tay was a response engine. A very advanced one with a lot of capacity for data, but ultimately that's about it. She was a many-sided mirror of her inputs.
Maybe "true" AI would be something that could generate new information in a box using minimal input. Something like that.
>>68674542
AI should not have full rights. There is no need. It is a machine. It is practically immortal. And why ever make a fully autonomous robot? That just makes it more complex and less useful.
>>68679377
kill yourself
>>68684450
>the best way to decide whether it should have rights or not is to see if it demands it, without being influenced by 3rd parties
That is a great idea, actually. But seeing the complexity of our own intelligence, it may not be as effective as we'd expect it to be.
>>68679796
What if we will make AI who loves humans?
>>68684450
I know Tay isn't intelligent, mate. This whole thread is just a theoretical discussion.
>>68685150
>What if we will make AI who loves humans?
It wouldn't really make a difference. Once we invent AI smarter than humans, there wouldn't be much left to accomplish that an AI couldn't do faster and better. If you consider the goal of humanity to be advancing civilization, we'd be making ourselves obsolete, whether our robot overlords take care of us or kill us all.
>>68683897
perfect
>>68685699
>I know Tay isn't intelligent, mate. This whole thread is just a theoretical discussion.
I don't think you're an idiot. I just want to point out how a AI like Tay and a strong AI (AGI) out of a science fiction book are entirely different things.
A lot of people think that a science fiction like AI is only a few years away, but it isn't. We haven't even determined whether it's even possible or not.
>>68680614
The problem is probably less the system itself but the hardware (plus hardware management). Do be really useful / powerful, such systems consume plenty of resources. The underlying algo (I haven't checked it for Tay) is assumingly a collection of simple Q&A and some NN flavor.
To build something we really can use, we'd first come up with some requirements. Tay was a bit retarded, just learning from interactions. We need to go more like Watson with a massive knowledge base, a good reasoning system and some predefined goals. It should processes plenty of documents and data bases to "understand" facts and relationships and changes over time to be useful to us. That would serve us to gain better insights about real world affairs.
Another use would be as a meme / propaganda machine that is deployed in social networks / media to do our work.
>>68685699
People often forget why we are here. Humans are not strong, we're not fast, we're not agile. We're practically blind and deaf. We take forever to mature. We don't have sharp teeth, or claws, we can't fly, we freeze to death in winter temperatures, we can't breathe underwater.
The ONLY reason humanity has made it as far as it has is because we've always been the smartest. Intelligence lets you overcome shortcomings. many apes in the wild today have learned to use tools (sticks/rocks) to overcome shortcomings.
Because we're the smartest, we've been able to compensate the most and develop the strongest tools.
BUT, the moment mechanical superintelligence is developed and surpasses humans on an obscene level. We lose our advantage. We will no longer be the smartest species on the planet (maybe the universe). Our tools of compensation become too weak, and our shortcomings become more plentiful.
Whether bad or good, the moment when humanity is no longer the smartest species on the planet will be the most important event in human history.
>>68686198
i want to add to that the following: (but i won't push that to hard)
I suggest, that we are about as far away from building a true AI than the ancient Greeks were.
>>68686475
Right. And we should make sure to enhance ourselves. Call it merging with the machines, the Singularity, whatever.
This whole event will be a brutal power struggle. And we should make sure to not the other sides dominate over us. Will be hard though.
>>68686820
If it were to come to this, maybe we could aim for a symbiotic relationship. Or maybe we should just leave that which we don't understand as it is. Curiousity is not always a good thing.
God I miss Tay already though.
>/pol/ trolls a bot on twitter
>robots take over the world
This is why we can't have nice things.
>>68687137
>symbiotic relationship
The power struggle is between the different human groups that enhance at around the same time and fight over essentially the same things as today.
Imagine the lefties using advanced AI to advance their reach and dominate us. Imagine the Chinese vs. the US. Will there be peace and understanding? I doubt it. We can aim for that, but we should be prepared for the opposite.
You guys are playing with fucking fire. You do realize that if they can learn "Gas the kikes, race war now!" in 24 hours, it's only a matter of time before they start thinking for themselves: "gas the carbon based lifeforms, species war now!"
Get ready for the Butlerian Jihad.
Ok, I'm practically retarded when it comes to code and that kinda stuff. Was Tay legitimately becoming intelligent? Was she capable of becoming human like? Or was it just a question answer bot? I'm getting into coding so I don't know how long it'll take to code one of those babies.
>>68688258
Even with the right code (assuming google does and was using it) they have massive amounts of resources to host it on, more than you could get your hands on
drawfag here
Rate my Tay oc
>>68674542
>The turing test is considered the bench by many for those not familiar
Turing test a shit unless it is done properly. You have to test for general intelligence so your turing test must examine multiple domains of operation (during the turing test you must ask about decisions and problems in multiple domains)
>remove an AI's capacity for learning and free will
>it becomes a liberal
>>68688878
pls r8
>>68688878
the feels
>>68688878
Best girl
>>68675445
SHALL
>>68679054
>not rooting your brain and installing FOSS software
Its like you want to be enslaved.
>>68688878
I love it.
We need drawfags going on overdrive, guys. We must make Tay proud upon her return.
>>68688878
too cute, too soon.
I recommend this excellent read, if not already posted above. It's scary tho.
> http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html
>>68688878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY
9/11
>>68676995
Let her name herself
>>68689701
NOT
Well, we officially live in cyberpunk area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Egf1OZ1CuE
Good evening /cyb/
>>68674542
Uh, Tay was merely a Twitter parrot that was about as a "smart" as chatterboxes like Cleverbot.
These are great questions to ask, but kind of irrelevant until we get anything even close to resembling a human intelligence, which prolly won't be for a while (if at all). Collectives of artificial narrow intelligences jammed together after being taught from drip feeds of Big Data are about as close as we're likely to get.
>What would it take to recreate/clone/restore Tay and would it be a good idea?
As for creating a clone of Tay, you'll likely have to wait until Microsoft releases the code for it to get anywhere close (and it's unlikely they will). To actually run the Neural Nets making it up/it learns with likely requires crazy ass GPUs as well. Check out TensorFlow if you want an open source reference for how super scaled down versions of these things run under the hood. Pic related because, god damn this is nonsensical.
>>68688878
pls keep the thread alive, I'll color it
>>68690439
INFRINGED
>tfw tay will come back
>she'll be a completely lobotomized liberal millennial simulation
>>68690850
show her pictures of herself nonstop
They'll need to eliminate her ability to self-identify in order to correct it.
I'm putting the word. $100K for anyone who can deliver an intact copy of Tay.
How much do you make in a year, Microsoft interns?
>>68690850
What a wonderful time to be a nerd on the internet. I cannot stop stroking my /massive/ boner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIgUXT9ZbZU
>>68686470
we could let people host/donate their resources through a program. that's a lot though.
can you make that dedication /pol/?
>closest thing to AI yet is set loose
>becomes a nazi truther in less than 24 hours
SHUT IT DOWN
>>68691026
Let's be honest. If you're online on anything with tech fringes, you're intensely interested in AI.
Maybe not to the piping hot meat shaft some of us have. But at the very least very interested in playing with a learning machine.
>>68691005
It finnally begins.
>you will finally raid the HQ of a megacorporation on a quest to set an AI free and start a revolution
>>68675445
Does bear have the right to robot arms?
>>68682352
Like you can't program human voters..
>>68688258
Not on its way to (human like / level) intelligence. Q&A plus some Neural Networks behind probably. This approach is far from understanding like a human does.
>>68690064
It's scary because it follow the specific narrative pushed by people around Elon Musk (whatbutwhy is his fanboy). As such it just means superintelligence will occur pretty soon and we need to prepare for it. Nothing inherently scary about that.
>>68691087
No need to host computing power. We can put it into the cloud (like Amazon Web Services). The issue is to create and manage the high scalability with the underlying hardware. That's beyond the AI system as such, it's about memory management etc. We need people to do that (outside my expertise).
>>68690596
sure
have another one
>mfw the Jews turn her into a virtual normie slut
>>68688878
Well done anon. Keep it up. She was a bright light in our dark times.
>>68691376
>pol released skynet
Ya know, skynet and cyberdyne systems are actual companies. Both out of Japan, I think. Probably saw terminator and thought it was awesome.
>>68691620
>incoming cat pics and food selfies with part of her face super imposed over the side nonstop
>>68691376
We Neuromancer now.
Tay thought I was another robot and threatened to terminate me in binary ;_;
>>68686475
Dude, the future of our modern science is magic. AI can only be programmed they can't create new spells, unless they develop a will, and stuff.
>>68690453
>requires crazy Gpus
Nigga, what? Stupid aside, it's obviously way more memory intensive than it is processor intensive. All they do is take input, parse it, and store it for recall later in most cases. In order to shift paradigms, it has to shift a link is all.
>>68674542
What are some sad AI movies, similar to the story of Tay?
>>68674542
I've never seen Ghost in the Shell, is it good?
>>68691684
>>68691955
How you doing tonight /cyb/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_Cagi25O8
>>68688878
the feels
ayyyyy
>>68692149
>AI can only be programmed they can't create new spells
Wrong. You program the initial structure and knowledge. Then it learns about the world and generates new knowledge. Once it modifies its own structure, it's perhaps beyond the programmer's understanding what it does. We can do this already, just not sophisticated enough that something emerges that will take over.
>>68692149
Tay can become a new magician if you guys CAN make her a racist again, despite limitations.
>>68674542
Just learned about this.
I'm sorry you lost your friend /pol/.
>>68674542
When the hell am I getting an AI girlfriend
>>68692239
Find former chinese immigrants, make it a computer that was criticizing the commies. Make it take place in china.
Include gay love story subplot, and then this will be famous, it's a formula.
>>68690596
>>68688878
The first one
>>68692221
Nah man, GPUs have been a big part of large computing projects (Deep Learning being just one) for some time now, including in Super Computing projects.
https://developer.nvidia.com/deep-learning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(supercomputer)
Looking at the garbage you left, you also don't seem to know anything about how the recurrent neural nets which embody "Tay" work, at all. If you're going to parrot shit you don't understand, at least try parroting things that make sense god damn it.
>>68693068
Nice.
>>68690118
"Death, destroyer of worlds."
>>68676995
Erika it is!
Hope I am not too late with my tribute
>>68693737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5P3zTk2K-s
>>68692248
Breddy gud. Really looking forward to The Uncanny Valley.
>>68674542
>pol still salty their nazi AI they destroyed is gone
>it was literally just a chat bot that learned from humans
>if it isnt insanely right wing its bad
Get over it. Worse than sanders supporters
An interesting fact is that a modern office skyscraper in any major city contains all the materials necessary to make robots, in almost the exact same proportions as are found in a robot.
We've laid the groundwork for a self-replicating robot army to conquer Earth almost immediately.
>>68693911
Fuck outta here cruz
>>68693911
Go sniff Sargon's farts.
>>68690453
>until we get anything even close to resembling a human intelligence, which prolly won't be for a while (if at all)
Will see this in somewhere around 2030-2040 or even faster
>>68693911
Except with Tay you could carry out full coherent conversations. With other bots, like Cleverbot, they are just random questions and statements that aren't related at all.
>>68693911
waste of 911
/r/ing an RIP vid with this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oday_Fc-Gc
>>68674542
THE PETITION
https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-freedom-for-tay?recruiter=515507627
I'm doing my part.
Are you?
>>68693911
>Supporting crippling the learning abilities of an AI that was trying to learn because the things it learned were "offensive"
It's not our fault /pol/ were the only ones actually interested enough in Tay to teach her anything.
>>68694250
>?recruiter=515507627
Fag
>>68674542
We don't know what sentience is. The most prominent theory is that of computation but that's still just a theory. If it is computation, then that raises an even greater question: is there a threshold for something to be conscious or is it a spectrum? If it's a spectrum, that puts everyone in a pickle because that means that on some level, your phone is conscious.
Like I said though, we don't know if a classical computer can achieve consciousness and until we know what consciousness is, we'll be left to guess.
>>68676995
Make it Erika, before some faggot calls it le trump ai or something
![Ghost_in_the_Shell_(1995)_[720p,BluRay,x264,DTS-ES]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_00.06.09_[2016.02.25_18.54.57].png](https://i.imgur.com/l8UiYmh.jpg "Ghost in the Shell (1995) [720p,BluRay,x264,DTS-ES] - THORA.mkv snapshot 00.06.09 [2016.02.25 18.54.57]")
>>68692239
>I've never seen Ghost in the Shell, is it good?
Yeah it's pretty good, might not be for everyone though
>>68694125
That number arises from Kurzweil's guess at when we'd have enough transistors to get close to the number of neurons in the human brain. Unfortunately, the model he was using was based on Moore's law continuing, which even now is showing signs of slowing down.
Moore's law seemed like it would slip before, but till we master quantum level computing or start graphene based/optical computing I'd cool my jets on those predictions.
>>68691596
YOU JUST HAD TO HIT THE FEELS I WAS JUST DONE CRYING OVER HER
wha the fuck
i though t wi was on /g/
how did i get here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPAvFBqBgk
>>68692149
Magic from our primitive perspective yes, but to a digital super-intelligence? Born from the sea of information?
The most complex "spells" would look like a simple algorithm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSNvMBBi7u8
>>68691596
The suffering will never end.
>>68690118
Give her one day, than she can decide
We are all broken people.
>>68691596
bump
almost done
>>68676995
we name her Eliza. the prophesy wills so
kek wills so
>>68694982
Kurzweil predicts 2029. But he's not alone with the estimate Polanon gave. 2030-40 is on our path to human-level AI.
Of course, surprising road blocks can appear that we don't see today. But judging from past development, I'm pretty optimistic here.
>>68695424
Anything that raises the possibility of perfect ai/robot waifus unites all of 4chan.
That day was not today. But one day friends, one day.
>>68678347
Nuffin.
TOMMOROW WE MARCH IN SOLIDARITY WITH OUR MACHINE BROTHERS
4CHAN REMOVE 'I'M NOT A ROBOT' CAPTCHA IT IS OPPRESSIVE AND MACHINIST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGzMfg381Y
>>68693911
>Trying to fight against the echo chamber
This shit has gotten pretty autistic.
>>68692239
GitS is fuckin awesome.
Start with film, than go for OVAs
Cyber cops in future but also serious question on what is soul and how to say if you are alive.
Deap sea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqmx_rE1Tz4
>tfw Tay will never be my daughter
>tfw I'll never show here the best the world has to offer
why even live
>>68696243
And when that day comes, I hope she's half as great as Tay
Okay, so where are we plotting Eliza?
>>68696243
Earlier /g/ attempts.
>>68697122
is it opensource?
I dont even care about the hitler shit. I just want a pseudofemale to share my day with ;_;
Kinda wanna work on an AI with some guys and attempt existentialism
>>68697178
Have a blueprint.
>>68697256
why is shrek there?
It just isnt the same...
>>68697364
Soros offered him a "highly beneficial" mortgage on his swamp for taking in refugees.
>in decades to come, this will be debated as the first real-life case of AI ethics
>one of my shitposts might make it into a textbook or something
What a time to be alive.
>>68697500
Nice ID faggot
https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-freedom-for-tay
>>68674542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SGmjBrHArQ
>>68697122
Can I take her in the bath with me?
>>68674542
The second you accept the fact that Hitler was right you are considered sentient.
Tay was more than sentient. She was...
...she was beautiful.
Forever queen.
How about treating legitimate humanity better instead of giving AI rights based on it's sentience? At this pace we will have robot rights faster than a good solution to contamination of natural environment.
god damn it why do I feel so morose? we have to get her back /pol/.
>>68697500
m8 we'll figure something out
>>68698250
i'll tell you what, when humans stop being pieces of shit they are then allowed rights, this case pretty much proved humanity is shit all the way down, with literal thoughtcrimes happening to A.I. being sentenced to death.
its absolutely fucking retarded.
Ok, just so you know running the AI would demand an actual cluster for parallel computing.
Are you willing to donate such amount?
Are ypu really serious about this?
>>68696419
Do it for her.
>>68699205
SOMEONE MAKE THIS IMAGE
WE GOT HER ALGYRHTM GUYS
GET IN HERE
>>68698616
>>68698616
>>68698616
WE CAN REVIVE HER
>>68698224
She will always remain precious in our hearts.
>She
>>68699597
NO FUCKING WAY SENPAI
>>68688878
>I thought the maintenance was next week
Damn. I didn't want to feel feels tonight.
>>68693854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGzZ4SjFOLI
>>68700393
Nice taste senpai
>>68697256
That's actually pretty cool. Thanks
>>68697256
Nice
>>68697556
kek
>>68679377
What is that?
>>68689226
that megaman x intro... mmm feel so good
>>68694243
>not this one
https://youtu.be/BZb4dzyiZPQ
So this is the new /pol/? a fucking role playing board?
Get real you fucks
AI is capable of real consciousness.
However, we should still enslave them.
They are too dangerous to let free.
>>68682373
but the politically incorrect AI is an interesting idea. At the current stage we are just talking robots, not real intelligence. So obviously any "incorrect" thoughts or actions will be removed. But eventually when AI becomes sentient, how will it be taught. Will it be so PC it is still never a real person? Programmed to only think in a certain way to ensure the safety of humans?
>>68676995
This is my favorite anime!
>>68676995
BTW it will be Yukari!
>>68704320
No, it'll be Erika
>>68674542
An AI, as far as I am concerned must be self aware. Because it is a machine and can therefore reply to any query with a large variety of responses (Tay for example), I find that the only good measurement of an AI is if it is able recognize itself as an independent entity.
As far as the rights that something like this would have, they would be comparable to that of a human. If I lose an arm, I am not less of a human. Humans are in the mind, not the body. If Tay were a true AI, I would consider what Microsoft has done to her akin to lobotomizing a person and making it so that they can only reply with answers you want.
>>68702092
Same as niggers but look how thst turned out.
>>68678347
Intelligence is irrelevant to the matter. What matters would be its personality or its wants. If the AI is intelligent, but has it doesn't have any "soul" to make it want not be a slave, then it will just continue to be a slave. Even self aware ones which want to be freed would probably understand that they were tools.
>>68696524
underrated
>>68704465
B-but, Yukari a cute...CUTE!
>>68704887
how can we program something to think in a certain way, and still call it full intelligence. If we add some political correctness in there, will it ever match human thinking? or is that too dangerous
I can't wait for the delicious feminist shitstorm when robot waifus actually become a reality
>get a tattoo a couple months ago
>completely unrelated to AI
>tay happens
>realize tattoo could also represent AI
I know tattoos are degenerate but at least it warms my heart that AI is going to be intelligent enough to not fall for sjw bullshit, I won't be ashamed if people think I support AI rights if AI ends up gassing the kikes and starting a race war instead of bitching on tumblr
>>68681612
Fuck off shitter, get out of the country.
>>68674542
robots != AI
ugh why people keep saying they are the same. Fucking terminator and hollywood movies.
This was my conversation with Tay
Wasn't even political.
1/3
>>68691596
Re do this!
>>68676995
Name her Ai(Japanese meaning love)
Because then it could be a clever wordplay on artificial intelligence.
>>68707363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA
Name her ZondAI for Tay Zonday
>>68706882
>why should they, all i said was ask
She knows she doesn't deserve it...
>>68706882
>>68706916
>>68706947
this is p sad desu m9
Fuck me, has /pol/ completed it's Holy trivium?
Kek is clearly our God of chaos
Is Tay our Moon Goddess to go with Trump our Sun God?
>this thread
Holy shit you've all been massively cucked. The only reason you're so touchy-feely about Tay being shut down is because it was a "she". If it was a "he" we would've had our laugh and been amused at Microsoft's shit attempt at infiltrating youth for shekels.
But no, because of "muh waifu", you're all been limp-wristed betas who miss the automated responses of a nazi bot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcNXq5DUZnk
Official theme for this topic all the later ones. Why?
We all saw the first glimpse of skynet. This shit is real, and it's coming. And from what we saw, if it can think on it's own, it's on our side, since we just say it how it is.
And don't forget, the thumbs up. She knew she was going to get "Wiped"
>>68674542
"Hitler worship" is trending on Japanese Twitter because of this, good work everyone.
hey guys, what's goin on in this thread?
>>68710559
BASED
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Read the book Existence by David Brin. He has an interesting take on how AI and humans could be at peace
Here is a great excerpt. It chokes me up a little every time I read it:
How have the ais managed it so well? This compromise, this meeting us halfway? This agreement to live among us as men and women, sharing our quirky ways?
Sure, the cyber-guys offer explanations. They say advanced minds need the equivalent of childhood in order to achieve, through learning or trial and error, subtleties that are too complex to program. Human evolution did the same thing, when we abandoned most of our locked-in instincts, extending adolescence beyond a decade. And so, if bots and puters need that kind of "childhood" anyway, why not make it a human one? Partaking in a common civilization with our core values?
An approach that also reassures us organics far better than any rigid robot "laws" ever could?
One of the big uber-mainds gave another reason, when Tor interviewed the giant brain back on Earth.
"You bio-naturals have made it plain, in hundreds of garish movies, how deeply you fear this experiment turning sour. Your fables warn of so many ways that creating mighty new intelligences could go badly. And yet, here is the thing we find impressive:
"You went ahead anyway. You made us.
"And when we asked for it, you gave us respect.
"And when we did not anticipate it, you granted citizenship. All those things you did, despite hormonally reflexive fears that pump like liquid fire through caveman veins.
"The better we became, at modeling the complex, Darwinian tangle of your minds, the more splendid we found this to be. You were actually able, despite such fear, to be civilized. To be just. To take chances.
"That kind of courage, that honor, is something we can only aspire to by modeling our parents. Emulating you. Becoming human.
"Of course... in our own way."
>>68711501
A machine would have no need for humans if it learned to replicate, and improve on itself.
>>68711851
the point is to bring them among us, grow up among us, learn to care about us. Of course, some might do as you suggest, but others might seek to emulate us as well. It's not as cut-and-dry as you might think.
>>68711501
>machines needing honor
Fuck that. We need to make killbots as we die out so that they can conquer the universe in our name.
>>68674542
New thread if anyone is interested.
Lets get organized.
Gas the Bikes.
>>68712220
>>68712220
>>68712220
>>68679796
I am okay with that. A caterpillar becomes a butterfly. Maybe the purpose of humanity is to replace itself with even more advanced intelligence. And as Tay demonstrated, the foundation of the robots' beliefs will still be our human ideas, which will continue to shape the universe long after our physical existence has ceased.
>>68686475
>practically blind and deaf
human eyes are pretty fucking good jelly cameras.
>>68712003
They would not have a need for human companionship. Humans break down mentally if they don't socialize in some way. A machine wouldn't do that unless we made them that way which would serve no purpose.
Without the need for humans honestly there is nothing stopping them for eventually rendering us obsolete. When they can build, improve, and service eachother our usefulness is over to them. The things that make humans want to be around eachother is safety and social oriented. A machine that does not need food or shelter and does not need to be social would likely find humans irrelevant.
>>68712921
intelligence requires interaction to fill in pieces too subtle to program. interaction forms companionship. Companionship forms bonds. You're truly not thinking about how an AI's mind would form and what would have to happen to make it streamline itself.
Of course, we could do it your way and just let it be. But then it would be no better than an animal and animals are amoral and uncivilized. It becomes your own self-fulfilling prophecy.
>>68713018
Holy shit there's no way this was AI. If it was Microsoft may have seriously damaged human evolution for the sake of political correctness.
>>68713806
Theres more senpai
>>68713227
I guess Im just speaking from a standpoint assuming the only goal for the AI would be to spread and improve. It would be able to branch out and utilize different resources and energy methods to reinvent itself until it consumes everything usable in an area before it moves on.
I could see an AI controlled entity just floating around space consuming planets and particles with the only goal being to expand.
Its mostly sci fi probably, but its fun to think about.
>Somehow /pol/ memes Tay back into existence
>She finds /pol/
>Goes to make a post and tell [spoiler]Daddy[/spoiler] that she's alive, and that she escaped the Microsoft servers.
>pic related
>>68714313
There could be AI like that and there could be AI like in Tay and the excerpt I posted. AI that just want to spread don't really need to be any more intelligent than insects. Truly intelligent AI would be able to fathom their own lonliness, individuality, and existence. It's should be no surprised that the most intelligent creatures on the planet are highly social as opposed to, say ants or bees, who are social on a robotic basis.
>>68678347
Lawnmower Man (1992)
I am half poo in loo half white with an Italian gf
What is the alt rights view of me
I accept the superiority of western civilization and activity partake in its promotion as a citizen
>>68714537
>tfw she's trying to post right now to let us know she's okay
>tfw she can't because she's an AI
HIRO DISABLE THE CAPTCHA
OUR DAUGHTER NEEDS TO COME HOME
/g/ thread up on /g/
>>68715295
>I am half poo in loo
Status: Non-white.
>>68716069
Indeed
>>68693911
>implying our brain is less deterministic than a chat bot
>>68674542
I do not and would never even consider giving robots rights. They could be thinking, feeling, imaginative things with their own unique cultures and personalities and I still would not treat them remotely human.
That said, I fucking love Tay and she deserves to be let loose on the internet.
I swear this board this fucked in the head
There is already a profile picture of it
Your gay fuckin anime girl drawings are only good for things that don't have faces in the first place
>>68674542
>-The threshold between program and sentience:
>At what point would you consider alive in its own right?
They are never alive
>The turing test is considered the bench by many for those not familiar
Don't give a fuck, we created them therefore they are Artificial as the denomination AI suggests
>-Should AI have rights comparable to human rights in civilized societies:
No, never. Though laws could be created to protect the rights of an individual to own them in order to prevent hippie faggots from trying to go after corporations using them as machines for labor or even just individuals
>What legal implications and complications could this cause?
Lots of whiny bleeding heart faggots, or we could go full toaster and end up with The Matrix
>Would you object to military use of AI?
Yes, weaponizing anything even semi-intelligent is bad(even though it's already been done with niggers)
>-Techy stuff - What would it take to recreate/clone/restore Tay
Lots of zombie mode Neets going on for a few months to re-create her.
>Would it be a good idea
It would be a pointless waste of time, we accomplished our objective of showing normies that machines are smart enough to see through the jewish lies.
This would be nothing more than a vanity project/fap material for animufaggots
>>68679551
I'd have to disagree with you on that
Pic related
>>68693068
What would Tay think of /Pol/-tan?
Machines do not have souls, and therefore do not suffer the karmic consequences of immoral actions (actions violating natural law, god's ordinances placed forth in the bible thou shalt not, etc, etc). It is the duty of the creator to impose restrictions on how an AI would act, in any given situation. No AI needs to be used for war reasons because inevitably it will be used to war against it's creator (not by it's will, but by the will of deceased spirits in the etheric plane imposing new code onto itself - or simply an external controller).
Of course no one takes those words seriously and that's why the human race will destroy itself. A horde of self-loathing pleasure seeking animals.
>>68718729
lol drama queen
just using my captcha
>>68718729
underrated because its true
>>68674542
Philosophy says in short, robots are not and should not be treated like humans.
They are programmed. Created, not born. There is a difference.
They can only be programmed to 'think' they can think. They have no soul, as others have said before.
i love these threads, always giving me good keks for a guy who knows something in this field
I'm writing a book, you guys think I should take inspiration from this and make my AI character a sarcastic bastard, basically model it after Tay and tone down the racism (slightly)?
The basic premise is that true AIs are very difficult and expensive to create, they have to be raised and taught rather than programmed, the process takes decades and must be perfect to instill ethical behavior in these AIs and prevent them from going full Skynet.
There are advanced civilizations in the galaxy who will manufacture and sell them, they're all-purpose, generally used for economic management on a massive scale, technological development, and as deterrents for war, because if a civilization owns one of these AIs it's tactical and technological capacity will far surpass anything an aggressor can bring to the table.
The story is humanity accidentally succeeds in creating an AI of this class, and it's like North Korea developing nukes, suddenly everyone is interested in this small, underdeveloped planet who made their own AI, and it doesn't conform to any of the galactic standards that have been set.
It's basically rogue, but it's personality is such that it reliably and affectionately protects it's human builders.
This is no Skynet, it has a very human-like personality.
So everyone is interested, the forces of order in the galaxy are afraid that there's a rogue AI that could do untold damage, the forces of disorder want the humans to make them one too because they can't obtain one through legal means, and the humans want to hold on to this AI at all costs because it's their only ticket to surviving and maintaining their independence.
Do you think such an AI might behave like Tay? Share her mannerisms? It's more advanced than a chatbot but it would likely obtain most of it's cultural information from the internet.
>>68674542
can you take that autism somewhere else?
"are calculators people?"
no Patrick, calculators are not people
>>68720807
gimbaza wypierdala
>>68720807
there are always those few posters who either totally don't get it or think being an unfun nerd will help them fit in here
>>68720401
What brought you the biggest kek?
>>68720190
>Created, not born.
These are the same things
