Feel free to adjust.
Make Hillary neutral evil, Bernie chaotic neutral, and Trump chaotic good.
>>68671932
0/10 bait
>>68671932
Switch Trump and Bernie.
I thought I may have put Hillary and Kasich the wrong way around.
>>68671932
Hillary is Neutral Evil because she's a criminal.
Bernie is Neutral Good because he wants to change the laws, not break them.
I would add Gary Johnson as Lawful Good, since he and Austin Petersen have the most literal interpretations of the Constitution.
Donald can be Chaotic Good since he does want what's best for the country, at the expense of minorities and political correctness.
Maybe Bloomberg can be Chaotic Neutral.
>>68671932
>hillary
>lawful
wew lad
>>68671932
Lawful good: Rand
Neutral good: Webb
Chaotic good: Trump
Lawful neutral: Kasich
True neutral: Jeb
Chaotic neutral: Huckabee
Lawful evil: Clinton
Neutral evil: Bernie
Chaotic evil: Soros
>Hillary
>best alignement there is
no
>>68672510
Seems about right but Hillary and Bernie should be switched as Hillary breaks the law and has no principles.
>>68672907
That's not what lawful means in D&D terms.
"lawful" just means establishment, for all intents and purposes. Hillary is the epitome of lawful evil.
Adapted slightly.
>Flipped Hillary and Kasich
>Added Jill Stein
>Added Gary Johnson
>>68673189
also
>Moved Bernie
>>68671932
>Trump
Lawful good. He's literally running on a platform of enforcing the LAW for the GOOD of the people. Even when those laws might be less than savory.
>Webb
Neutral good. Pretty based, but being a conservative democrat pushes him towards neutral overall.
>Kasich
Chaotic good. The guy's nice but he's still running when he literally can't get the delegates needed for the nomination. There's at least a little chaotic involved in that.
>Rubio
Lawful neutral. Robots do not feel, they only obey.
>Yeb
True neutral. I honestly believe that he was a victim of circumstance from the day he was born. Didn't do anything wrong by his own volition, but rolled with it when pushed.
>>68673249
>Bernie
Chaotic neutral. Whether or not what he's doing is "good" is up for debate, but it's clear that he's a bit of a wildcard, having been independent and all.
>Shillary
Lawful evil. Evil is undeniable, lawful from how tied she is to the "establishment" position. Even when she's breaking the law, she's doing it in a rather structured manner. That's a "lawful" act, if not a legal one.
>Rato
Neutral evil. The man's nowhere near enough of a wildcard to be chaotic.
>McAfee
Chaotic evil. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
>>68671932
>Shillary
>Lawful
>>68673081
That's not entirely true, lawful evil means that you have a code of conduct, you don't like breaking laws, and you play by the rules. Hillary is none of that, seems like you should brush up on your D&D.
>>68671932
>implying any president candidate is good
>implying they aren't controlled by someone else, so it doesn't matter who will win
>>68673189
>Kike
>Good anything
>>68671932
>Bernie Sanders
>good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIKP4W50-I
>>68673271
>>68673249
Possibly switch Trump and Webb, Bernie might very well count as good depending on whether you want to go off of "Doing good things" or "Thinks they're doing good things." McAfee only added because none of the candidates really struck me as a *chaotic* sort of evil otherwise.
>>68671932
>having been independent and all.
And voting along the democrat party line 99% of the time
Only reason he was ever independent was special snowflake syndrome
>>68671932
>$hillery
>Not lawful or neutral evil
Fuck off Reddit
>>68673189
>Flipped Kasich and Hillary back around again
>Better pic of Stein
>>68671932
Trump is Lawful Good
>Trump is anything but Chaotic Neutral, true /pol/ alignment
>>68673081
Let me guess, you only play 5e?
>>68673432
>lawful evil means that you have a code of conduct, you don't like breaking laws, and you play by the rules.
Literally only means the first one.
Directly from the 5e PHB because that's what I have on hand:
>Lawful Evil creatures methodically take what they want, within the limits of a code of tradition, loyalty, or order.
That's shillary to a T.
And hillary lawful evil, cruz goez NE.
>>68673673
>Britain taking us for a ride on the rise cruise
>>68673712
5e is the best edition they've released yet senpai. He's wrong about the lawful but don't knock on 5e just because someone's too dumb to actually read it.
>>68673627
>Chaotic neutral
>Not the most special snowflake alignment
That's kind of the point, anon.
>>68672510
Switch bernie and Hillary and it's perfect.
>>68673880
wut?
>Hillary is Lawful Neutral
Hillary is Lawful Evil or neutral evil. Trump is Chaotic Neutral.
>>68673692
Inciting violence and promising to pay legal fees when the person is arrested for said violence is not Lawful Good. It's Chaotic Evil. He's like the Joker. Just not intentionally funny.
>>68671932
this is how I see it
>>68673961
>A lawful evil villain methodically takes what he wants within the limits of his code of conduct without regard for whom it hurts. He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order but not about freedom, dignity, or life. He plays by the rules but without mercy or compassion. He is comfortable in a hierarchy and would like to rule, but is willing to serve. He condemns others not according to their actions but according to race, religion, homeland, or social rank. He is loath to break laws or promises.
From the d20 srd. Again, literally Shillary, just stick an s in front of every instance of "he."
>>68671932
Impossible task because there's 3 evil slots and 5 politicians on there.
>>68672248
Kasich wants to start WWIII because he has neocon feces on his tongue, lips and nose. He's Lawful Evil, continuing years of neocon foreign policy.
Bernie is Lawful Neutral or Neutral. Despite the fact he wished to sell out the U.S. to the U.S.S.R. during the cold war, he really just wants his socialist utopia at the end of the day.
Hillary is chaotic evil, she wants make money doing it, and will make or break alliances and kill whoever it takes to get it.
Cruz is neutral evil. Somewhere between Kasich and Shillary.
Trump is chaotic good or neutral good. He will make America great again, whatever the cost.
trump is clearly neutral good
>>68674021
>George Soros funds rioters to disrupt Trump Rallies to help Bernie and Shillary and treats women and blacks like puppets
Nah nigga
>>68671932
Rand Paul = Lawful good.
>>68674122
I think we're talking about another Hillary because that doesn't describe her.
>>68673961
>remember the shitfest of 1e
>how much Gaigax hated fucking wizards
>being a wizard was like having a revolver that could at any moment explode and kill you instantly while the other shots had a chance to be all be blanks and you could only reload once per day and most enemies have bullet proof vests on
It was a fucking nightmare.
>>68674071
John Kasich is lawful evil faggot.
>>68673895
Its just a meme m8. My only complaints with 5e is the lack of detail to mounted combat, and the limited number of feats which is to be expected considering how new it is. Character development was also stream lined which was both bad and good depending on what you were looking for.
Anybody not putting Kasich under "evil" is pretty fucked. His "aww shucks, let's all get along" boy scout persona doesn't change the fact he wants to arm the enemies of Russia and escalate us toward a war with Putin.
>>68673709
>pol is the worst alignment, only chosen by retards who bog the campaign down with their bullshit
like pottery
>>68671932
>Wants to deport ILLEGAL immigrants
>Trump not lawful _____
3/10 bait, got me to reply.
>>68674071
This makes the most sense so far, Trump is clearly Chaotic Neutral.
>>68674478
Putin needs a good old missile up his anus desu.
>>68673271
McAfee is chaotic neutral as it gets. He doesn't really seem to have any platform besides "I am a deranged degenerate, and you probably are, too, so vote for me, I guess. Btw did you know computers are RAD?"
>>68674604
Well enjoy your nuked flat Europe afterwards, numb nuts
>>68674387
>Methodically taking what she wants without regard to who it hurts
>Caring about order but not freedom i.e. modern liberalism
>Plays by the rules but without compassion
>Would like to rule but is willing to serve
>Condemns others based on nothing but political affiliation
She breaks laws, sure, but not frequently. I don't see her flaunting the rules when her particular brand of evil can be accomplished within them.
>>68674677
>degeneracy
>not evil
This is ultimately just my opinion
>>68674604
shop it or it didnt happen
>>68674482
But they and chaotic evil make the best memes
Martin O'Malley is the closest candidate to chaotic evil.
t. Marylander
>>68674465
There's sufficient rules for mounted combat. It's less cheesy then 3.5 with their riding check bs. What do you think is overly ambiguous or missing?
I think the character creation is way better now, especially when it comes to planning and class balance. There were soooo many horrible options in 3 and 3.5 that unexperienced players, or just players who never understood math, would take and fuck themselves over with. Not to mention the massive disparity between full casters and *everybody else* beyond level 4.
>>68671932
Hillary would be an unlawful evil
, or whatever the fuck you would call a person who will do evil and break laws with no regard for consequences just to make bank
Which is funny because the FBI is about to fry her ass <3
Sanders would be chaotic neutral,
bordering on evil, based on what his policies would or wouldn't do to harm the nation.
Trump is the liar from revelations
>>68674826
Degeneracy ain't really evil, it's just... degeneracy. Preferably it wouldn't exist, but it's not quite world-enslaving genocidal lunacy.
>>68673189
>Johnson
>Not CG
Trump is chaotic good.
>>68671932
After hearing Kasich say "if you're not with us you're against us" I say he belongs in neutral evil.
>Hillary Rodham Clinton
>lawful
>>68671932
There you go, OP.
>>68675400
This. Clinton is Neutral Evil. She is willing to bend or break rules as long as it gets her what she wants, and fuck anyone that stands in her way.
>>68675548
Maybe she's chaotic then?
>>68674837
>>68675508
Needs quotes that resemble the alignments
You cannot disagree with this.
>>68675766
N U K E U K
U
K
E
U
K
>>68675798
You high, nigga? I didn't think Mongolians were into that opium shit.
>>68675840
>Cruz
>in any way, shape or form good
pick one
>>68675840
This one gave me some feels. What could have been...
>>68672510
anyone funded by soro is automatically evil
kasich and hillary need to be in the evil category
>>68675840
cruse is a lying Hypocrite, so I can disagree with that. Everything else seems fine.
>>68671932
>>68675840
Rand I accept but the others are the complete wrong way around. Also Cruz and Carson should be flipped.
>>68675840
switch cruz and rand
switch shillery and bernie gutman
change trump's icon to God Emperor Trump
>>68675840
John Kasich for lawful evil
>>68675840
>tfw you cant get over the demicraps r stoopid mindset
>>68675798
>>68675508
>Trump
"Make America Great Again"
>Sanders
"When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor"
>Rato
"If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you."
>Clinton
"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their brothers, their sons in combat."
LG: Rand Paul (even if his libertarianism is shitty)
NG: Ben Carson
CG: Donald Trump
LN: Ted Cruz
TN: Jeb!
CN: Krispy Kreme
LE: Bernie Sanders (assuming he knows how shitty socialism is)
NE: Shillary
CE: Martin O'Malley the Literal Psychopath
>>68675840
>trump is good
YOU'RE FIRED!
All candidates are either Lawful Evil or Neutral Evil. Anyone who actually believes otherwise is an idiot.
Can I get a template please?
>>68674071
Only thing i disagree with is Bernie being true neutral. Bernie might be neutral good but that doesn't mean he isn't dangerous to democracy.
>>68676617
Just cut-n-paste, then fill the spaces with black, bro.
>>68674990
>do evil and break laws with no regard for consequences just to make bank
when has she done that?
>Which is funny because the FBI is about to fry her ass
you're delusional if you think that will happen
>>68676765
>when has she done that?
witness intimidation, Bengahzi, and the e-mails right off the top of my head.
>>68675996
Roll that mapple leaf nigga. I wanna know if it tastes like syrup.
>>68675752
Description of NE from the alignment section of the 3.5 book-
A neutral evil character is typically selfish and has no qualms about turning on its allies-of-the-moment, and usually makes allies primarily to further their own goals. A neutral evil character has no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit for themselves. Another valid interpretation of neutral evil holds up evil as an ideal, doing evil for evil's sake and trying to spread its influence. Examples of the first type are an assassin who has little regard for formal laws but does not needlessly kill, a henchman who plots behind their superior's back, or a mercenary who switches sides if made a better offer. An example of the second type would be a masked killer who strikes only for the sake of causing fear and distrust in the community.
If that doesn't describe Killary to a T, I don't know what does.
>>68676992
How was that for money? What laws did she break? What consequences were there from those actions?
>>68676514
Need to move them all down a row. Good ones should be neutral, neutral should be evil and evil should be good.
>>68677282
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???
>>68676617
>>68677423
>not answering the questions
>>68677199
>>68677558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8INIH0JfNA8
>tfw pain skills
>>68675840
Switch Rand and Rato around and it's perfect
>>68671932
>>68672510
switch bernie and soros and you've got yourself KEK
>>68671932
Kasich: neutral evil brah
Trump:Chaotic good
Ben Carson: Lawful good
Clinton: Chaotic evil
Ron Paul: Neutral good
>>68678380
Lawful evil: Christie
>>68677199
>How was that for money?
>What laws did she break?
~witness intimidation:
for Her husbands sexual abuse of women...do you not know that witness intimidation is fucking illegal m8?
~Emails:
us code title 18 chapter 101 section 2071
>(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
>(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
~Bengahzi:
Criminal negligence at best. Ignored HUNDREDS of requests from the US ambassador in Libya for increased security and or closure of the consulate. she even LESSENED security as all the other countries were closing down their embassy's and GTFOing from Libya. And when the attack happened, She and Obama sent a recon drone there which arrived 4 hours after the attack started, and stayed up, watching two US military personal Fight and DIE to defend themselves and their post while telling all rapid response Units to STAND DOWN during the entire 6 hour event where American lives were lost.
Cont~
>>68678925
goddamnit I quoted the wrong person. this is for
>>68677282
>>68677282
Cont~
She then went and blamed the attack on a fucking youtube video that had been up for a good long while before then, while there were plenty of other MUCH MORE offensive anti muslim vids on youtube which had been up for years. Despite knowing FULL WELL that was bullshit and it was a terrorist attack. She even went on record later, correcting herself and stating that it WAS NOT caused by the vid, and they knew this all along.
>Money:
How the fuck should I know.
>>68678898
Good idea
>>68677416
Are you a fucking faggot son?
Trump is in no shape way or form evil, nor is Hillary/Bernie good.
Kill yourself to remove your retarded presence from your country.
>>68675798
>>68676724
america aint a democracy
>>68678925
>>68679017
Hillary is such a fucking sicko sadistic cunt. We cannot have that miserable psychopath warhawk running our country, because the only place she'll run it is into the ground. Mein Gott, she'd throw us all, military and civilians, into a meat grinder to save her psychotic ass.
>>68679322
Kill yourself.
>>68671932
Trump is Lawful Evil. He isn't Chaotic in the slightest. Everything he says and does is extremely methodical.
>>68679322
>Clinton
>LN
no
>>68679200
Trump is definitely evil. Bernie is definitely good.
>>68678925
Forgot to clarify, they watched those two soldiers fight for TWO FUCKING HOURS. before they died.
>>68679017
>She then went and blamed the attack on a fucking youtube video that had been up for a good long while before then, while there were plenty of other MUCH MORE offensive anti muslim vids on youtube which had been up for years. Despite knowing FULL WELL that was bullshit and it was a terrorist attack. She even went on record later, correcting herself and stating that it WAS NOT caused by the vid, and they knew this all along.
What's the crime there? Did something happen to the people who made the youtube video?
>How the fuck should I know.
I dunno. You're the one who said she committed crimes to make bank.
>>68679620
In your dream you marxist faggot.
Get the fuck out of here.
>>68679620
In your dreams you marxist faggot.
Get the fuck out of here.
>>68679891
Perfect.
>>68679620
Bernie wants the entire country to live on welfare, he is evil but at least he wants to do it by the books, as opposed to Hillary who is evil no matter what (neutral evil).
>>68671932
>perjury
>smear campaigns against rape victims
>LN
Top fucking kek
>>68679774
Maybe Marx's ideas will finally be tried. Bernie has done wonders to fight the negative stigma on socialism, even if he doesn't win.
>>68679620
You are definitely a 15 year old who wondered onto the wrong board.
>>68680254
I'm actually a 21 year old politics and IR student.
>>68680225
Nah, he's just made people hate socialism and millennials even more by exposing their violent, fascist tendencies.
Your left wing idiocy is over mahmut, so you should just kill yourself.
>>68679891
>McAfee
>Not just "Chaotic"
>>68680359
>getting such useless degrees
Lel, now I definitely know you're an idiot.
>>68679773
do you not know that there are Unique IDs? the first poster in that line was >>68674990 thats not even the same colour ID. he made that claime, but sure, I'll spoon feed you.
Good job ignoring the first massive wall of text BTW.
its bad because she blatently LIED to the Americain public and the world about the cause of the attack and went to spin it off as "Muslims are good bois, they din do nuffing" and yes, the creator of the shitty youtube vid DID get arrested too.
>Money
Insider trading, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_controversy
>>68680359
Close enough, now fuck off.
>>68680639
Not useless if you want to get a career in politics.
>>68680772
Why don't you demonstrate how?
>>68678380
>Cruz
>Good
>>68673692
That's the dumbest shit ever. Batman was not lawful. He was a vigilante who took the law into his own hands.
>>68672097
>Being this new
>>68680836
Actually, you're better off getting a degree in law or business if you want to enter politics.
Politics/IR is pretty useless in that regard.
Hey, it's not like you'd make it very far, you are a liberal in a time in which liberalism is quickly being replaced.
>>68681005
I'm currently studying politics and IR at level 3. I'm going to start a degree in politics next year.
>>68681005
Also, I'm not a liberal, I'm a socialist.
>>68681182
No wonder you're getting into politics, you don't want to get an actual job
>>68671932
Objective chart coming through.
>>68681133
Yeah, well, like I said. Take a laws class if you want to politics.
>>68681182
>Socialism
>not heavily tied to liberalism in the modern age
I mean, unless it's off the national variety you are socially liberal.
>>68681443
The conservative government is forcing me to get a job so why not get one where I can spit in their face? Seems pretty reasonable to me.
>>68681474
Jeb and Rubio should be switched desu
>>68680909
To fuck off? Hit the x on the top right.
>>68671932
>>68672248
>>68673189
>>68673239
>>68673673
>>68674005
>>68674604
>>68675766
>>68676210
>>68677416
>>68677448
>>68677665
>>68679322
>>68679620
>>68680225
>>68680359
>>68680836
>>68680909
>>68681133
>>68681182
>>68681571
>le socialism has never been tried maymay
Wew lad, do you honestly believe humans are naturally altruistic and would like to share?
also
>getting a degree for politics
>politics
>a job
Just like Sanders and Marx, right?
Sanders was never a working man, he didn't have a fucking job until he was elected into mayoral office in his 40s.
Lazy piece of shit.
>>68681571
>I-I have to work and can't be a useless chav?
>I'll stick it to the man instead!
Typical pussified millenial.
>>68681481
Liberalism is dying whereas socialism is on the rise again. I'm pretty sure the confusion here is because you have such a broad definition of 'liberal' coming from the idea of their being a binary liberal/conservative system. Liberal here means something much more specific, ie. supporter of the Liberal Democrats or otherwise economically centrist and socially liberal ideology.
Debate this without memes. I dare you.
>>68671932
>>68681474
>objective
>politicians chaotic
k
>>68681648
Plz, practical demonstration. I can't find it.
>>68681571
>The conservative government is forcing me to get a job
Jesus Christ, it's worse than I though. I think he has autism.
>>68671932
Trump is Lawful Good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmClYIQqEn8
>>68671932
>trump wants to actually enforce immigration laws and recognized borders
>chaotic evil
man, following laws is sure chaotic.
>>68677834
underrated
>>68681718
No, I don't think humans are naturally altruistic and like to share. That's why the state needs to make sure they do.
>thinks all humans still need to work in the 21st century
>>68681801
>thinks all humans still need to work in 21st century
>>68677558
"What like with a cloth?"
>>68681971
Well I don't. I just mean in general when I've finished education.
>>68682073
>thinks the star trek universe version of socialism is a distinct possibility
The fact that Clinton is not chaotic evil shows your biases.
Clinton doesn't have a good bone I. Her body. She does not care about the comman man or woman and only pursues one thing.
Money
>>68681834
Switch round Rubio and Cruz.
Switch Hillary and Trump.
Then switch Hillary and Carson.
>>68681834
>Rand
I agree
>Bernie
The dude's a lazy fag of a thief with mega delusions. He's not good. He wants to be fucking robin hood, who was a nigger.
>carson
>not good
>Kasich
>neutral when he's a plotting fag, spoiler, war hawk, and illegal sympathizer
>Trump
>not the man who will save us all
>Cruz
>broke laws to win caucuses
>lawful
I don't really see why rubio is evil.
>>68680683
>she blatently LIED to the Americain public and the world about the cause of the attack
Politicians do this all the time particularly in sensitive matters of foreign affairs. Not even close to a crime or even unethical behavior.
> the creator of the shitty youtube vid DID get arrested too.
for violating his probation, not making the video
>Insider trading, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_cattle_futures_controversy
fully investigated 20 years ago. nothing there then or now.
Nice talking with you Mr Starr.
What's next? Impeach Hillary for consensual oral sex?
>>68682035
>thinks all humans still need to work in the 21st century
Try current year, it's more precise.
>>68682270
>27 posts
>all railing on how Trump is evil
Whew lad. Perhaps you need to ask Mohammad to let you out of your cuck shed to get some fresh air.
>>68671932
True neutral: Ron Paul/Gary Johnson
Neutral evil: Hillary
>>68682183
>thinks we don't have the tech already
We can automate 70-90% of jobs with technology that exists right at this moment.
>>68671932
/tg/ here, the alignment system is utter shit.
>>68682270
>Hillary
>anything but evil
Get the fuck out of here Britbong.
>>68682356
Bernie is doing it for the good of the people, he has good intentions but the way he wants to do it makes him chaotic. So calm your autism.
Trump is the man who will save us, but similar to Bernie he does things in different ways making him chaotic.
Cruz is only "lawful" because of his following of the big book of fairy tales. Switch Cruz and Rubio if that pleases you.
>>68682561
It's not happening for at least 300 years you fag.
Let it go, Jesus.
>>68682264
Same as Trump and Cruz.
>>68682491
howabout you answer stuff from my first wall of text. you specifically targeted the other posts and ignored this one.
>>68678925
By definition of law, she should be in jail right now, and barred from having any government office.
>>68682561
And then what? You can automate jobs, but they still manufacture. How do you pay for the goods you need if you don't work?
>muh infinite resources
>>68682561
You really are just the local shitposter today aren't you? I am also one of the people concerned about job automation but come the fuck on 70-90% of jobs RIGHT NOW?
That alone is how I know you are full of shit right now. If you are being serious, please kill yourself.
>>68682730
>ignores what a just said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
>>68682889
What do you mean? Goods are made with labour, not money.
You don't need infinite resources. You just need the same amount you have now.
Stuff like food is effectively infinite anyway.
>>68683143
>Stuff like food is effectively infinite anyway.
tell that to Africa.
>>68682913
90% is an estimate from Larry Page. (co-founder of Google)
70% is from some other tech organizations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjmXstdBsyI
>>68683216
>inefficiency = finite
>>68683013
>>68683143
No one cares fag.
It's not happening any time soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
I'm not listening to the rambling of a retarded, nu-male liberal arts drop out going on about automation.
>>68683276
They are full of shit. We don't even have the tech for 30% of jobs. But we will soon.
>>68683372
Then watch this one instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjmXstdBsyI
>>68682561
Dude, we have heard this stupid shit from other 14 year olds who reached enlightenment on hearing about the Venus project. You don't know anything about how anything works. Why the fuck would you? Up until know it's been your single mom and high-school. One day you will be capable of self reflection, or maybe not. I don't care, fortunately there is an ocean between me and your autism.
>>68683143
Let me break this down.
A robot, owned by a company, makes something.
You have no job, the robot took it.
The company still requires payment for their product.
How do you pay for it if you have no job to get money?
>>68683417
Watch vid, then talk.
>>68683525
Universal basic income.
>>68676297
Ever considered the possibility that these people are considered evil, and bad for their own personal qualities which may have nothing to do with their political affiliation?
No. Of course you haven't.
>>68672193
No I think OP got it right
>>68679891
Well. Okay. Agreed.
>>68683582
>money for nothing
And your chicks for free? Not in our lifetime.
>>68681583
Rubio? Good? Are you out of your mind?
>>68671932
Trump is chaotic good.
>>68683526
>watching 50 minutes of bullshit
>while the thread 404's
naw.
If there is a certain time you want me to watch, fine.
In the meanwhile, stop shitposting.
>>68683819
Yes in our lifetime. They're already trying it in some cities in the Netherlands and they're going to introduce it nationally in Finland next year. Switzerland is going to have a referendum on it soon as well.
Money for nothing when the jobs are done by machines is perfectly reasonable.
trump is lawful neutral.
the red pill is lawful neutral.
order and indifference and self reliance.
>>68674272
>and treats women and blacks like puppets
were they ever something else ?
like what the fuck, don't blame him for finding a use to subhumans
>>68683659
I have seen shit like that for years. Haven't you seen Tedtalks were they go on about a bunch of shit that will never happened because they don't really understand the real effort that would have to go into bring that kind of stuff about. You may as well link videos to idiots talking about singularity.
Actually, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTvJq--Lbj4
You will probably eat this shit up.
>>68684012
I can't remember which bits were the most important but I was there and I asked the guy a question at about 41:00
>>68684015
On what metric do we base who gets how much money? Is it a set level for all? Beige-coating the entire planet with a single, bland level of wealth?
>>68683605
>you are wrong because you dont pick a side
k
>>68684318
Yeah, UBI is supposed to be a flat rate for everybody.
That's to cover all the essentials including basic recreational goods and services. There would still be other ways to earn money. employment just wouldn't be the main way anymore.
>>68671932
>clinton not lawful evil
>>68684537
>There would still be other ways to earn money
Such as?
And the average salary in this country is 26k.
Are you suggesting that everyone would be content with that? 26k and no room to get more?
>>68684867
There's been lots of different proposals. The Green party in this party has been advocating it at about £73 a week but the Swiss referendum is for a considerably higher sum.
Other ways to earn money would be self employment for example making money off of youtube or something like that.
Obviously you could also just buy a load of robots and make money selling goods and services.
And 10-30% of jobs would still be around at first.
I'd also be perfectly content just getting by, I don't ask for much in life.
>>68685188
*in this country
>>68671932
Lawful Good: Rand
Neutral Good: Jim Webb
Chaotic Good: Trump
Lawful Neutral: Christie
True Neutral: Cruz
Chaotic Neutral: Bernie
Lawful Evil: Hillary
Neutral Evil: Rubio
Chaotic Evil: Kasich
>>68684829
>lawful
>>68685376
lawful doesn't mean obeying the law, it means follows a strict code of conduct.
the yakuza would be lawful evil, for while they're gangsters, they have strict guidelines and their own set of ethics they adhere too.
that said, hillary isn't that, either. she's truly the chaotic one.
bernie is lawful evil, or he could be lawful good, depending on the intentions and motivations behind his beliefs. he could just be really wrong and naive.
good alignments can still do the wrong thing, be wrong, whatever.
>>68685899
Hillary is NE
A neutral evil character is typically selfish and has no qualms about turning on its allies-of-the-moment, and usually makes allies primarily to further their own goals.[8] A neutral evil character has no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit for themselves. Another valid interpretation of neutral evil holds up evil as an ideal, doing evil for evil's sake and trying to spread its influence.[8] Examples of the first type are an assassin who has little regard for formal laws but does not needlessly kill, a henchman who plots behind their superior's back, or a mercenary who switches sides if made a better offer. An example of the second type would be a masked killer who strikes only for the sake of causing fear and distrust in the community.
>>68671932
>lawful neutral for Hillary
>>68685188
>>68685281
And where does this money come from? The all present, benevolent government-deity?
>>68680973
>took the law into his own hands.
hence lawful
>>68682887
>>68682887
First I've seen of that wall of text since it wasn't in reply to me.
She had to cut spending because congress reduced her budget. There are hundreds of embassies and consulates around the world and she had to prioritize.
Using force against nationals by a diplomatic base is a huge deal and can lead to war. She practiced restraint in the heat of the moment. Not criminal negligence.
Do you have specific sources for specific cases of witness intimidation? All I can find are vague allegations by far right conspiracy sites.
>>68686193
from taxation of high earners (mostly robot owners)
>>68680973
he operated on a strict moral code, exacting rules of conduct, hence lawful.
>>68686408
But if everyone gets a regular stipend, why bother owning a company or investing in technology? Why strive for anything if your needs are met? If the majority of your "profits" are going to get taken away to pay everyone else for sitting on their collective asses, why do it to begin with?
also, you twits, post-scarcity society will need a new measure for determining medium of exchange.
it basically all comes down to everyone being rationed goods and services, though.
you're just arguing how people will divide up their ration-coupons.
we aren't getting to startrek any time soon, faggots.
>>68686755
Well they'd still make way more money than other people for little extra effort (same as the system now).
If it did become a problem though then these industries could easily be nationalized. tThen things could be sold at cost with a a tax on the product instead.
>>68687045
You think owning and operating a company is "a little extra effort"?
And if what became a problem? Profit?
>Nationalize the industry if someone makes too much profit
And everyone is subservient to the gentle, benevolent government overlords. This is why your idea is a pipe-dream. You're describing a nationalist socialist country.
>>68685188
>Greenfag
Did you do your white guilt session yet, faggot? Last time I got an ad from those grassfuckers I spat on it and threw it away.
>>68681858
switch hillary and bernie
>>68683216
there's more than enough food it's just the logistics of distribution and the fact that they would quickly become overdependent that's the issue
>>68687385
I meant if private business doesn't provide the services, not if they make profit. The implication that you seemed to be making was that private businesses would be unwilling so therefore the government could do it instead.
It's not a pipe dream to suggest the government do something. The government runs our healthcare service perfectly well. (if a little underfunded)
>>68687386
desu, I recently left the Green party and joined Labour instead. It had a few too many vegan tree-hugging fucklords for my taste. I do agree with their economic policies like UBI though.
>>68673271
>>Shillary
>Lawful evil. Evil is undeniable, lawful from how tied she is to the "establishment" position. Even when she's breaking the law, she's doing it in a rather structured manner. That's a "lawful" act, if not a legal one.
This.
>>68687671
>government can provide products if private business won't
>but with a tax
So tax the money that you're already giving to people for nothing. Does that make any sense?
Regardless, you're still describing NatSoc. There's no way that having everyone (essentially) dependent on the government tit wouldn't cause widespread corruption within said government unless there were some seriously draconian laws in place. I think a basic income will also cause an increase in theft; if you -know- someone's got money and you want more...
>>68688127
If you mean national socialism as opposed to collectivized socialism then sure. If you mean nation socialism as in Nazism then no.
There's an easy way to stop it from becoming corrupt. Democracy. This will only happen if people vote for it. It's democratic socialism rather than revolutionary socialism.
>>68688705
How are you going to manage to get the
>A) Current political elite
>B) Rich business owners
and
>C) Other people who generally disagree with having an omnipresent government (me)
to vote yea for such things? Or is that why you said democracy and not republic? So 51% can rule the 49% that don't necessarily want something?
>>68689209
I'll go through one by one
>Current political elite
Vote them out. That one is pretty simple.
>Rich business owners
Get new politicians to hold them to account
>others who disagree
Educate the ones you can to get them over to a new way of thinking. There will always be a a few who will never see eye to eye but w/e. They will lose.
>>68689510
>Vote them out
OK, I guess
>New politicians to hold them to account
For what? Being successful? Not wanting to give up something they've invested immeasurable hours, equity and sweat into?
>Educate the ones you can/Always a few who don't see eye to eye but they'll lose
So an honest -democracy- then. Fuck the 49%.
>btw I'm enjoying this rather civil discourse Britbro, even if I vehemently disagree with your position
>>68686400
I seriously doubt you missed it since in my post here >>68679017
I clearly state that it is a continuation of a post, and that I misquoted the wrong anon. this is also evident in the fact you are just picking little pieces from my argument and ignoring others. like the e-mail part. I give you props though, as it does seem like you are doing a bit of google-fu for the parts you do reply to.
fair enough by cutting spending, I'll give you that. by why IGNORE his hundreds of calls to either beef up security, or completely shut down the embassy? seems like it would be in favor of her budget to shut down an embassy in a country that was getting so torn apart by war that literally EVERY OTHER COUNTRY that had an embassy there had already closed shop and left by the time the attack happened?
Yes, there are hundreds of embassies, consulates and other US Diplomatic installations across the globe in many countries. And Hillary as Secretary of state is responsible for Each. and. every. one. and four Americans died, while she LITERALLY WATCHED for TWO HOURS and told rapid response units to stand down and sit around with their thumbs up their arse. Units SPECIFICALLY TRAINED TO DEAL WITH THIS SHITE.
Nationals? they were terrorists. Not nationals. they attacked with Machineguns, RPGs, Grenades, and a CREW MOUNTED MOARTER against the consulate. an attack that was claimed by AL-QAEDA. And not too mention that a little while before this, the "Demonstrators" blew a hole in the fencing around the compound. This was already an act of war. Coincidentally, an act of war by the same people who attacked the world trade center in 2001 (inb4 jetfuel meme).
and you call that restraint? Fuck no. She let them DIE. Oh, not to mention...NOT A SINGLE DAMN THING WAS SECURED AFTER THE ATTACK. a journalist recovered the Ambassadors Diary from the god damn floor of his office DAYS AFTER THE ATTACK.
Cont~
>>68686400
>>68690046
Cont~
the same ambassador who was brutally tortured, sodomised and then Killed by these so called "Nationalists" you speak of.
As for the witness intimidation, perhaps I used the wrong term, I’ll admit, have this article.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/31/rap-sheet-the-women-who-claim-to-be-victims-of-bill-and-hillary-clinton/
sorry for time, fact checking myself before posting. Also, you havent even touched the e-mail scandal, which ALONE should send her to Jail and bar her from holding any government position, let alone the god damn presidency.
>>68689899
Are you suggesting that taxation is inherently wrong 100% of the time? If not then you would surely agree that you tax the level that you need to to make sure you can pay for what you've been elected to?
Majority control is actually a luxury in a democracy.
In the 2015 election here there was about 60% voter turnout, within that, about 38% voted for the Conservative party. Because of the FPTP electoral system though, they managed to get 51% of the seats, which basically means they have 100% of the power.
Just over 11 million people dictated the government for over 65 million.
Believe me, majority rule is really not such a bad thing.
>>68672510
1. Remove Huckabee
2. Remove Soros
3. Change Bernie to chaotic evil
4. Add Rubio as neutral evil
5. Add Cruz as chaotic neutral
>>68671932
>trump
>evil
kill yourself you British fuckface
Bernie is Lawful Evil
Trump is Chaotic Good
>>68681005
> liberalism is quickly being replaced
yeah remember last time EU went far right
didnt turn out so great did it
>>68681973
Trump is a waking billionaire meme
>>68692237
The EU has never been far right. lol
I assume you mean Europe. When Europe goes far right, it goes far right through Belgium.
>>68676340
>"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their brothers, their sons in combat."
I thought this was made up but she actually said this.
Wew. America will never be """"ready"""" for a female president.
chaotic drumpf: donald drumpf
president: hillary clinton
person who shoulda been president: bernie sanders
nerds and your stupid magic the gathering. you're adults. grow the fuck up.
>>68690317
>>68690317
By nationals I mean citizens of the country you are located in.
The people responsible for those deaths are the people who pulled the trigger. Diplomatic postings in countries like that are inherently dangerous and no one can guarantee 100% safety. Everyone knows that going in.
btw All your capslocks and swearing won't make anything you say true.
I haven't said anything about the email scandal because there's nothing there.
She had a secure server in her home. No information was ever compromised or fell into the wrong hands. The information that is now classifed was not at the time it was sent.
She deleted some personal emails that had nothing to do with state business. Not criminal.
Just practice saying "President Hillary Clinton." It will make it easier next January
>>68693466
lol
yeah i meant europe
>>68694204
>She deleted some personal emails that had nothing to do with state business. Not criminal.
http://nypost.com/2016/03/20/will-hillary-get-charged-or-what/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/22-hillary-clinton-emails-declared-top-secret-218420
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071
~Emails:
us code title 18 chapter 101 section 2071
>(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
>(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/28/hillary-clinton-emails/70583404/
She wiped her server, WILLFULLY DESTROYING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL ON HER PRIVATE SERVER which if you payed attention to the news, would have seen that the FBI are restoring the server and finding more and more and MORE incriminating evidence against Hillary that was both SENT AND RECEIVED as classified.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article62766737.html
THE CAPS ARE FOR EMPHASIS SO YOU CANT MISS THEM.
>>68696040
>THE CAPS ARE FOR EMPHASIS SO YOU CANT MISS THEM.
And also because im angry and havent slept in some...30 hours or so.
