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*Worried about the future*
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Nukes save more lives.
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>>68614579
Good lord.
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It would work and anyone who says it wouldn't is a fucking idiot.
>Nuke one ISIS camp
>ISIS is fucking furious, threatens more attacks
>Calmly reply "Every attack from now on will be met with another nuke"
They'd either fucking stop instantly, or be nuked out of existence.
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Clickbait, watch the actual video
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>>68614633
>>68614722
>>68614733


dubsmode: OFF
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>>68614579

Why?

How much of a threat has Imperial Japan been since the U.S. flashed a bit of the sun at them?
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He didn't say that all.

RYAN: You [MUFFLED] mentioned a few minutes earlier here that you would knock ISIS. You’ve mentioned it many times. You’ve also mentioned the risk of putting American troop in a danger area. If you could substantially reduce the risk of harm to ground troops, would you use a battlefield nuclear weapon to take out ISIS?

TRUMP: I don’t want to use, I don’t want to start the process of nuclear. Remember the one thing that everybody has said, I’m a counterpuncher. Rubio hit me. Bush hit me. When I said low energy, he’s a low-energy individual, he hit me first. I spent, by the way he spent 18 million dollars’ worth of negative ads on me. That’s putting [MUFFLED]…

RYAN: This is about ISIS. You would not use a tactical nuclear weapon against ISIS?

[CROSSTALK]

TRUMP: I’ll tell you one thing, this is a very good looking group of people here. Could I just go around so I know who the hell I’m talking to?
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>>68614579
We never tried nukes and things are still shit. We should give em a try.
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>>68614733

They wouldn't stop. But if you nuked Mosul, Raqqa and a few other spots and then politely informed Saudi Arabia that if another ISIS attack occurs they'll be next, it might help.
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>>68614733
What about the moderate Muslims who live under ISIS?
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Nukes don't exist. And implying Drumpf of all people, would nuke Zionists
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War. War never changes.
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>>68614794

Why would someone rule in or out specific weapons before even planning, let alone engaging in a conflict.

>Well, I said I was only going to use pepper spray. Then the 15 gang members pulled out guns, and I thought "Gee, I really would like to shoot back". But...I did make a promise to only pepper spray...
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>>68614820
>moderate muslims
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>>68614820
>moderate Muslims

Muslims that don't want to murder gays and strip away all women's rights are NOT Muslim.
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It's called the madman theory
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>>68614760
Ah shit. The Jews got to Japan? Are they being cuckified pol?
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>>68614820

Ripping a bandaid off fast doesn't hurt nearly as bad as pulling it off slowly and excruciatingly.

In this case:
Cost effective.
More sensible than daily news of atrocities
The breeding of more little monsters for future generations to come

Shut them down now, and make these fuckers capitulate to our superiority.

Strength only respects strength.

And pussyfooting around only makes things worse.
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>>68614820

What about the moderate Japanese that lived under Tojo?
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>>68614818
This would help. But I do think if they knew for a fact each attack would result in them getting nuked they wouldn't last much longer.
>>68614820
>moderate
>is okay with ISIS slaughtering innocents
On a serious note, fuck em. ISIS will be using meat shields until the end of time. We just have to plow through them, because as long as ISIS can do whatever they want punishment free they won't stop
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>>68614805
But Turks would take over Desert Land
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>>68614820
Acceptable casualties.
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>>68614733
I'm convinced this is why our place in the world has steadily been declining.

In 1945 we demonstrated were the badest mother fuckers on the planet by nuking Japan not once but twice. In the ensuing decades we dominated, then starting in the 70s we slowly became pussified to the point no one believed we'd do It again except in a MAD situation, and it's been downhill ever since.

We should absolutely do nuke some terrorist camp or territory. And not even with an ICBM - take It in with a fleet of B52s, and be sure to fly low and slow over Beijing on the way home.
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>>68614579
If ISIS got nuked there would be a massive increase in terrorist attacks.
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>>68615193
>IF YOU DEFEND YOURSELVES, YOU WILL ONLY BE ATTACKED MORE!

The equivalent to a rapist saying "stop fighting me and just let it happen"
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>>68614997

Shutting them down in Syria isn't the problem.

It's getting European governments on board with the necessary measures at home (a strong crackdown on Islamic religious freedoms, immigration control and the most troubling, a more draconian security apparatus used AGAINST the Islamic elements of society).

These are all hard, scary decisions with unpleasant outcomes for people who just want to bury their heads in the sane and wish away the problems.

The actual ground forces in Syria and Iraq that ISIS have at their disposal are 30,0000. That's like controlling a small football game crowd.

Their influence in the west is the real problem. Although I'm sure much of that would wane if they were destroyed. You don't even need to carpet bomb them.

You make an alliance with Russia and agree to come to terms on Assad later. You force the Sunni nations, especially Turkey (which has to come as part of Nato anyway) to move in and crush them conventionally. They could do it in weeks.

People forget that the U.S. had ISIS stripped down to a few hundred guys living in shacks up until 2011. This time you don't leave the few hundred behind.
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>>68615023

Well, they wouldn't last simply because they'd be dead. Turning Raqqa and Mosul into Glass Parking Lots would pretty much wipe out 2/3rds of their forces/capabilities.
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>>68615193
>ISIS WANTS YOU TO DEFEND YOURSELVES
ISIS doesn't have nukes. If you nuke them and tell them any more attacks will result in more nukes, they'll either fucking stop or be nuked into ash.
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>>68615365
I hope when Trump is elected they 'force' his hand, since we can't just outright nuke them right away
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>>68615193
>We can't fight back le weed man said the bad guys win if we do

A
Fucking
Leaf
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>>68615193
This line of thinking is, was, and will always be retarded.

Shows of overwhelming force do not lead to reprisals. Muslims almost always pick places where muslims receive preferential treatment, hyper tolerant liberal regions.
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>>68614579
Is it fake?
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>>68615193

This is true.

Undoubtedly.

Hence the need for tougher, much, much less popular home front measures like I said here >>68615312

Also, the question is;

>Rapid succession of terrorist attacks and then none

>Consistent, smaller, longer separated terrorist attacks for eternity
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>>68614579

Fake as fuck.

https://www.rt.com/news/336985-brussels-terror-nuclear-plants/

Terrifyingly real.
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>>68614579
JUST LIKE THE GOOD OL DAYS
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>>68614818
If one were to nuke Jerusalem and offer the same threat, Isis would be disbanded within the week
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>>68614579

Lincoln didn't rule out war with the United Kingdom during the civil war when they provided support to the South. Does it mean he wanted to invade Canada? No, it means telling your enemies what you will and won't do is not a profitable business.
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>>68615487

>Shows of overwhelming force do not lead to reprisals.

Not always true. Didn't work in Northern Ireland.

(Although maybe I'm incorrect, and it was like I said here >>68615511 .... A huge spike of desperation followed by resignation).
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>>68615547
>https://www.rt.com/news/336985-brussels-terror-nuclear-plants/

Now I'm sad it didn't happen.
ISIS terrorizing europe with radiation would be reason enough to glass them.
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>>68615367
>>68615481
>>68615487

You daft cunts they'd just AK-47 anything that moved in Europe.
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>>68615547
Damn, they should have hit that first.

Not saying I side with ISIS, but just think of the reaction. They would go full Hitler on muslims.
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>>68614760
Imagine if the middle east began making cartoons afterward?
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>>68615594

Not anymore.

ISIS is it's own beast now.

The dog got off the leash. I'm not sure anyone can reign it in to be honest. The very model, basically creating an instruction manual for self starters, makes it hard to ever be stopped. You really do have to eradicate it like you would an infestation. Wipe it out in it's stronghold and then methodically, slowly, weed it out at home. This also requires very tough measures in regards to the Islamic populations of Western Nations that, frankly, I never see happening.

The U.S. might do it. Australia, maybe, MAYBE, might think about it if the U.S. sets a precedent.

But France? Belgium? The Netherlands? I doubt it. Honestly I can't see them reversing what they've started.

If Britain leaves the E.U. it will be very curious to see how they handle it. They've done it before with the Irish. They could do it again with the Muslims.
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>>68614820

All Muslims are """moderate""" until they blow themselves up.
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Remember lads , the future is still possible.
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>>68615745

They won't. The socialist movements of Europe have gutted their nations.

They're lame ducks and they're going to get steamrolled like they did after World War 1.
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Make it a dirty bomb to be sure
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>>68614579
>they have to respect us

Why no respect for my intelligence?
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>The illusion of the "moderate" muslim

Just because you don't wage war doesn't mean that you don't support those who do.

That's the truth about Islam.
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>>68614579
Is it happening /pol/?
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>>68614579

>Implying China and Russian wouldn't help us nuke those fucks back to allah with us.

France, don't be such a fucking coward.
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>>68614820
>moderate muslims
That's like asking for a non humanoid human, or a flying octopus, or a dry rain.

By our standards of the word moderate and muslim are two incompatible mentalities.
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Surely meme magic can make someone nuke ISIS

if doubledigits trump will nuke isis an hour into presidency
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>>68614733
>This level of retardation

No cunt, you nuke Raqqa.
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>>68614579
Taking options off the table is stupid. You don't have to use options, but they are available than not. Same with waterboarding or "worse than waterboarding", it might never see a day of use but why should the Terrorists need to know that?
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>Nuking the middle East
>Less territory for the Jews

>approved
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>>68615650

There wouldn't be any sandniggers left to wield AK's, fucking leaf.
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>>68614579
>Nukes in the middle east

Finally
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>>68614579

so he is guna nuke london? Cool
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>>68614579
If true I think Trump might have finally gone too far, but of course I also said that regarding his original Muslim travel ban promise as well.
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>>68616409
Just like quinn from homeland says... Turning raqqa into a parking lit is the only way to deal with ISIS.
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>>68614733


why would america nuke what took them so much effort to create?

not to mention your kike overlords won't allow radiation to take over future Isr- I mean Palestine and Syria
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>>68614579
Who the fuck will allow you to do this?
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>>68615193
If you kill your enemies they win.
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>>68614742
This.

Trump:
>I don't want to be too open about military strategy so the enemy isn't too well informed about what we're going to do. Nukes are a last resort option only.

Press:
>TRUMP WANTS TO NUKE THE WORLD

Seriously, who's the one inciting hatred here?
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>>68614579
Ffs again prove trump is a retard.

You use chemicals. You kill the grain. Poisen the watter and watch billions of shit skins die.

A nuke is not effective to wipe out a whole race.

The after effects are way harsh even for the side starting the strike.

Chemicals are faster less dangerus.

Radiation stays for 1000 of years chems disolve afrer the job is done. Even much more effective.

Kill live stock.
Kill farming.
Kill watter.

Watch how they turn against each other, canibalice each other.


You retards got no clue what kind of horrors we have in stock from the cold war.
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>>68614733
>Syria
>literally surrounded by American allies

You stupid meme-loving fuck, do you have any idea what fallout would do?
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It's going to be beautiful.
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>>68614820
Coleteral demage.

We are at war.
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>>68614579
What kind of idiot would openly tell the enemy hes ruling out nukes?

This yellow journalism is gonna get us all killed.
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>>68614579
Fuck 'em
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>>68614949
>wanting to be that guy that starts open nuclear warfare
Could other countries even guarantee where the nukes were going? I'd rather not have an apocalypse just to attempt to get rid of some sandniggers.
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>>68616896
Not much if you use thermo nuclear weapons. Almost no radation 10 times strong then a nuke of the same sice.
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>>68615856
Isis is still mostly in Syria, yeah? If the dog is off its leash, why don't the earnest crazy religious fundamentalists target even a squirt gun at the occupiers of one of their holy lands, considering that holy land is basically neighboring them (with the very tip of a sea between them)?
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>>68614967
So iran is not muslim?
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>>68617052
Don't use ICBMs then, go classic 50s style and let the B52s do what they were built to do
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>>68616982
Exactly, pretty sure every leader of a nuclear capable nation would say the same. The very final option, not ruling it out (what if IS nuked london?)

Otherwise, why have them at all?
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United States and other western countries have created ISIS and similar groups by opposing the legal president of Syria Bashar Assad because he's opposed to Israel's aggressions.

ISIS doesn't operate on money or intelligence or military might but an ideology, the same ideology which is the official state religion of America's good ally Saudi Arabia.
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>>68615745
Doubt it. Ppl would just cower because of radiation, hostilities will be raised but they wont succeed

But if they do were talking ww3
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>>68616865
>Ffs again prove trump is a retard.

What is it that you think you read and are responding to?
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>>68617144
Mad. Use scare the shit out of other countrys and dont wast them on pesants.
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>>68617145
>United States and other western countries have created ISIS
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>>68614579

"Let's nuke the Middle East so they absolutely have to go to Europe because the fallout has made their country literally uninhabitable"

Truly a meme president
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>“I’m never going to rule anything out—I wouldn’t want to say. Even if I wasn’t, I wouldn’t want to tell you that because at a minimum, I want them to think maybe we would use them,” he said.

>Donald Trump thinks that tactical nuclear weapons may be worth using in the war against the Islamic State.

Why is this allowed?
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>>68614794
Trump was asked about this again during an interview with Bloomberg Politics earlier this week, this is the article they came up with:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-23/trump-lays-out-vision-for-gaining-respect-from-muslim-world

This article claims Trump said he would use 'unpredictability', nukes, and various other tactics as a means to gain respect from the muslim world. Let that sink in.

>nukes and waterboarding to gain muslim respect

Except he didn't say that at all.

>Trump's vision for how he would earn Muslim respect included such controversial proposals as returning to outlawed harsh interrogation techniques like waterboarding; monitoring mosques in the U.S.; and leaving open the possibility of using tactical nuclear weapons against the Islamic State.

They can't even quote him on it so they throw in this made up paragraph. I'm fucking furious.
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>>68615903
Honestly at this point you need to triple the radius.
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>>68615642
I can't seem to locate the wiki article on Ireland being NUKED.
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>>68616955

>It's going to be beautiful. It's going to be the best nuke ever. I've seen a lot of nukes, and they're all good, but this one is going to be the best. I have my best nuclear scientists on it, these aren't the guys Obama has, these are guys I know. They'll do it as a favor. And this won't be something stupid like the Manhattan Project. This will be affordable. Trust me, it will be beautiful.

>And I'll make ISIS pay for it.
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>>68617237
>being this much of a newfag

Search Kenneth King's statement.
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>>68617194
The picture and his intend to use nukes.

Wrong choice and a threat he never will make true.
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>>68617263

Build Wall.
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>>68614579
you fucking idiots

Just because he's not taking his strongest card out of the deck, doesnt mean hes intending on playing it. war is a poker game, fags. get your fucking head around it
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>>68615642
It did work in Ireland, overwhelming force forced the terrorists underground and made reprisal attacks increasingly rare.

If anything, we didn't go far enough in Ireland, we backed off from killing the families and collaborators. Russia has the right idea, kill literally everyone connected to the terrorists, and keep killing until there's either no more attacks or everyone is dead.
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>>68617469

>Implying overwhelming force always involves Nukes

We confiscated their potatoes m8.
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>>68614820

If those fags use civilians as meat shields then the blood falls on their hands not ours.

If the head of state allows these fags to operate totally unchecked then again, the blood falls on his hands not ours.

Every time a terrorist successfully attacks it is a failure on both sides, each side being the sovereign nation that was attacked who failed to prevent the attack and failure by the sovereign nation that failed the keep its people in line.

We can't fix the failure of others, but we sure as hell can make sure ourselves that it doesn't happen again.

We should stop fucking around, declare war on ISIS, drop 40k ground troops into Syria (fuck the clueless heads of state) and absolutely fuck ISIS.
You know what we should do after that? Nothing.
>B-B-BUT EVIL SYRIAN DICTATOR
Not. Our. Fucking. Problem. ISIS has killed Americans, therefore our problem. The brutal dictatorship is not our problem, because it doesn't affect American lives.
If the Syrians are so spineless that they won't war over the land for their own freedom then they should fuck off and die.

I'm so fucking tired of us getting involved in foreign affairs that don't concern us while doing nothing on the matter that do. It's full blown retarded.
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>>68614733
Shit son, you might see me pulling some false flags if thats the payoff :^)
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>>68617621

You could send 10,000 ground troops from each NATO nation and massively outnumber ISIS forces, and you wouldn't even have to rely on air support.

There are 30,000 of them. In the "open".

It's a fucking absolute pathetic joke that it's gotten this far.

We ALSO have the most elaborate security apparatus human history has ever seen. We can monitor, detain and disappear entire swathes of the community. And yet you have Radical Clerics, standing open in the fucking streets, advocating Jihad in their host nations.
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>>68617575
As an Irish person, it's a pity you didn't. People from IRA families are the biggest multicult cucks and never shut up about their drug dealing family's 'Republican credentials'. Fags.
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>>68614579
He hasn't ruled out using Nukes against Saudi Arabia either. Wait until he reads the secret reports detailing their role in 9/11.
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>>68614820

Nobody would care, like the moderate Japs Truman nuked.
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>>68617621

>I'm so fucking tired of us getting involved in foreign affairs that don't concern us while doing nothing on the matter that do. It's full blown retarded.

Well..the real reason is that Assad is Putin's piece.

Guys like Obama look at Brussels as collateral damage in a more important war in denying Russia leverage.

Maybe they're right.

But I don't really see how their end game is all that important. What is the great threat of Russia? This isn't rhetorical...I genuinely don't know what threat Russia poses that is greater than the spread of fundamentalist Islam in the West.
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>>68617775

>Deal with Irish illegals here bragging in the pub about their glory days

>All they do now is sell pingas and refuse to go fucking home
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>>68614805

isn't there the very interesting conspiracy theory that the secret threat of nukes on their capital caused Syria to pull back on the 6 day war? Kinda cool if true
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>>68614579
B but wont the fall out hurt out israeli masters ?

wait more reason to do this
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>>68616865
Fix your English, German friend.

>>68616896
Hydrogen bombs don't produce fallout.
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>>68614579
I bet you are. 27% of you fuckers support ISIS.
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>>68617513

Again, you're not responding to anything. There is no threat. You read a few bits of black text under a picture and now you're talking to it
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>>68617621
And the american idocy strikes again.

Wew lad go see a doc.

You forgot irak?
You forgot that they want you to come and fight on there ground and terms?

You go to syria you fight with ouer retardet roe, no coleteral dmg we loose.

Thats what they want. Just kill.

You have to burn every house kill every civilian, child, women,old shoot up every car. For nothing. Vietnam and iraq with afganistan all combined.

Daesh is no country its a idology.

You have to wipe out islam to stop the attacks. Total genozide. Who is willing to comit to that?

Before that it was alquaida now its daesh the next goatfucker group is in the making.

The problem has to be solved on the root or it comes back and bittes you again in the ass.

So.

Why are they blowing them self up and why ate they fight western nations?
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>>68617486
well meme'd friend.
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>>68618443
>daesh
It's called islamic state, not "daech". Daech is just newspeak for shifting the blame off islam. Start naming the ennemy by its real name, not by the name given by traitors who want to protect their muslim masters.
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>>68618782
Its daesh. Or dildo i wont give them the satisfaction to be musslims. Go shill somwher else.
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>>68618890
You arent the muslim authority Hans. If they say they're muslim it means they're muslim. Dumb fucking kraut
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>>68614733
>ISIS ever stopping

lmao these fuckers are here for the rest of our lives
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>>68618890

Why are you making up new names for them? When referring to most groups, don't you go by the name they themselves use?
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>>68618782
>Muslim masters
I laughed but I'm mad. We both know the masters are Jews.
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>>68618995
>Hans

You're not speaking to someone from a family where anyone is named "Hans".
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>>68616865
>The after effects are way harsh even for the side starting the strike.
>Radiation stays for 1000 of years
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>>68615789

:^)
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>>68614949
this cunt knows
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>>68618890
Only muslims and leftist call this beast "daech", so it doesn't associate with islamic cancer. Either you're a leftist or a muslim, but don't imply I'm one. I know the enemy is the islamic state, which is a muslim state modeled after kuran.
Everytime you call ISIS "daech", you make muslims on our soil stronger and give in their "religion of peace" narrative.
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>>68617106
this makes -15 sense
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>>68614820
Expendable
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>>68615193
if a nuclear bomb went off terrorist attacks would probably be the least of your worries
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>>68619083
In ISIS handbook, there is a chapter on how to use leftist organizations to push muslim cause forward.
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>>68617237
It kinda was. Do your research.
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>>68619491
Hello Najim, did you have a nice trip from Brussels to France?

Please post source.
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>>68619322

>1 nuclear bomb is going to destroy the entire world :DDDDDD

this is a retarded assertion, retard
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>>68615745
>Think of the reaction

the...nuclear...reaction?
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>>68616865
http://zidbits.com/2013/11/is-nagasaki-and-hiroshima-still-radioactive/

you have been raised to believe nukes are bad simply because they are our ultimate killing weapons. they do not pose a risk to anyone else other than the targets that we need dead. Nagasaki and Hiroshima are currently occupied today

a nuke is just too good a weapon for purely killing, that's why moralfags hate it so much. we can literally solve any concentrated problem on Earth with nukes. if the entirety of Germany became irreversible zombies we can nuke all of you to death and repopulate the land within a few months.
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>meanwhile mus- terrorists nothing do with islam wanted to blow up a nuclear plant in belgium

naughty naughty trump
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>>68614633

This is true, nukes do save more lives, indeed the middle east is exactly the sort of scenario where a neutron bomb or enhanced radiation device would be ideal.

Infrastructure, buildings, and territory left relatively unscathed while the actual problem (the people) are removed.

Makes nation-building cheaper/faster afterwards. I'm sure Israel would like to help out in exchange for perhaps half of the territory cleared.
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>>68619062
No you redicule them. I opt for the name dildo.

>>68619288

Triggerd goatfucker.

Daesh but i am more for dildo
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>>68619491
And who created the leftist movement on which they march? And who pushes that leftist ideology? And why are other mudslimes at greater risk of the general rampage of isis, but not Israel? And who continues to fund Isis's general rampage?
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>>68618782
daesh is the arabic word for a fanatic or someone who wants to force his opinion to other people. Its a negative word for the islamic state and other terrorist organisations in the arabic world. They use it since a long time ago.
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>>68619322

lol, he thinks the world will end if a nuke goes off.
Let me guess, you were born after the 70s right, probably after the 80s.

A nuclear explosion is literally nothing.

>As of 1993, worldwide, 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions (including 8 underwater) have been conducted with a total yield of 545 Megaton (Mt): 217 Mt from fission and 328 Mt from fusion, while the estimated number of underground nuclear tests conducted in the period from 1957 to 1992 is 1,352
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>>68618443
Rudolph Hess here is right. To stop islamic terrorism you have to have a policy of Totaler Krieg put the fear of the non existant god into them. Make them feel like if they fuck with the west again there won't be anyone left to worship Allah.

Wasn't it Halsey that said " Before we're through with them, the Japanese language will be spoken only in hell"

The west has to take the same stance. Or we won't survive.

At least for now stop letting dirty sand people in.

It's as if you are an attractive woman and there are 4 men that are acquaintances and in need of sex one is a virgin , one is big cock dude, and some or all have STDs. You wouldn't pressure a woman to have sex with those dudes because they are in need of pussy at the risk of ripping that woman appart or giving her a serious STI. So nations must do the same in Europe just like a woman has the right to choose who penetrates her holes, so does European nations have the right to choose who penetrates their borders, in an intelligent fashion, better than a woman I hope.
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>>68614579
I know all of /pol/ is supporting this, but this is probably the one statement that will legitimately stop Trump becoming president

People are terrified of a nuclear war, and I fucking wish Trump would just say he would never use nukes because I really want him to become president
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>>68619726
Ofcorse you could.

Also grow threes and crops on glass.
Filter all of the watter ground watter and so on.

Stay delusional. Nukes are dirty use hydrogen bombs then you just have to worry about glass soil.


Btw kid. Dont even compare fat man and littel boy to what is used today.

The two dropt on japan are a joke.
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He's using Nixon's insanity strategy. Modern comparison would be Putin. Make the enemy believe you're an unhinged warlord and they'll take your threats more seriously. They'll be easier to deal with.

Compare this to Obama who draws red-lines and can't even make good on those threats.
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>>68616332
this slimy brazilian gets it
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>>68619901
>hurr durr you goatfucker
Either you're stupid and didn't read my post, or you're a leftist/muslim pushing your shit here. In any case, get fucked.

>>68619925
So what ? Let's blame white people for what isis is doing ? Blame white people because ISIS is taking advantage of the naive "humanist" inclination of left ? Excuse me, I'll still blame the cancer itself rather than the host body.

>>68619973
I'm not arabic and I don't speak, I'll stick with islamic state, because it's a state and it's based on islam principles.
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>>68615193
You are WEAK. You BEG for enslavement, you BEG!!!
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>>68616851
i really, really, really like this picture
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>>68620169
You are a goat fucker. You think you can run around and call people lefty or musslim without any repocusians you wrong.

You startet the insulting.

Stay mad goatfucker.
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>>68620169
yea you better call them what they want you to think. you better keep what you know and dont look up things.
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>>68620109
wtf it's like you didn't even pay attention, what a stupid fuck
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>>68614579
>possiblity to get to see nukes used against people in my life time
>worried

I'm excited anon
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>>68620096

People are stupid then.
There will be no nuclear "war".
ISIS do not have nuclear warheads or the means to deliver them, not even over short distance.
Now that the threat of MAD is removed, and Russia and the US are now on better terms overall than they have been in the last 50 years (at least there are lines of communication), a nuclear strike is just another kind of explosion. Unless of course you think Pakistan is going to jump in there and help out their religion of peace buddies. Pakistan and the ISI are totally corrupt, but they are not stupid.
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>>68616865
guize, maybe we should listen to the german. they know about cannibalism
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>>68620169
The answer to each of those was the Jews, actually. Who do you blame for the lacerations to your abdomen? The rabid ferret? Or the man who taped a rabid ferret to a stick and prodded you with it?
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>>68620346

Me too, its like the final release of tension after all these years living under the threat of MAD, the 4 minute warning, and those depressing public information films where you are told to drag the dead body of your grandparents outside your shelter so the army can collect them (yes, I am in my 40s).
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>>68620123
Yeah üutin did bark to at isis. And nothing.

No nuke. Just empty promises.
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>>68614579
cause trump would throw a nuke next to israel.
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>>68617486
toppest of keks
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>>68619751
>"genocide is perfectly okay"
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>>68616865

Reinhard Heydrich knows the score here. I dont understand why we dont simply stop their 2 most precious resources, water, and oil.

Prevent access to those and its game over.
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>>68620318
>yea you better call them what they want you to think.
>hurr call them daesh, muslims told me to call them daesh
Is this a joke ?
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>>68620358
You pay attention to what happend over the ladt years?

Russia braking all ties with nato. No communication at all. Nato and russian armys have a stand off in east europe.

You woke up out a coma?
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>>68620548

Its like a business, you make the cuts you have to, the earlier you make them the quicker the business recovers.

Civilisation is the business we are in, and ISIS is the department that we need to cut. Some other department can take over their bit of the office when they are gone and we can all return to profitability sooner.
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>>68617237
But anon muslims aren't humans.
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>>68620440
>drag the dead body of your grandparents outside your shelter so the army can collect them

Damn anon that's fucked up PSAs. I'm only in my 20s so I don't know what that's like but as I have tried to explain to my friends in real life. Nukes are going to be used at some point, it's inevitable, wouldn't you rather be around to see that, than live your whole life not knowing what modern nukes could do to a civilisation (or whatever the Middle East is)
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>>68620673

Russia is going to re-construct the former USSR, and re-acquire Warsaw Pact states as a buffer zone. Geographically they dont have much choice, it is the only way they can be assured of stability since the central European plain cannot easily be defended as it has no natural barriers. Putin said so in his 1st speech and it makes logical sense for them.

They will not use nuclear weapons for this though, because Warsaw pact states and former USSR states no-longer have nuclear weapons (Ukraine gave theirs up in exchange for USA protection... not a good decision now it seems). They will use proxy wars and conventional forces, supported by Russian air and anti-air, exactly as we have been seeing. This is Russias response to an expanding EU and an expanding NATO, and critically... an anti-ballistic missile system, which Putin thinks is a knife at his throat.

But... there will be no nuclear war.
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>>68620048
hahahahaha!!!! Good bantz puerto rico
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>>68620606
yea you better recognize them as a state which means you legitimize their action or you recognize them as a crowd of fanatics and terrorists. Because a state sends soldiers and not terrorists. Do you really want to recognize those terrorists as soldiers, as people who fight for their country, which is a nobel thing, or do you want to recognize them as terrorists, as rats and the scum of the society and humanity. Its your choice how you see them.
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>>68620562
We've got to nuke the hell out of the oil.
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>>68620931

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6U9T3R3EQg

mfw they used to show us this at school.
mfw I was smart enough to know that since we lived within a couple of miles of a primary target (garrison town) we were just going to be space-dust anyway after the bomb went off.
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>>68614579
Here's the link OP forgot to provide

https://theweek.com/articles/592964/ted-cruz-wants-nuke-middle-east
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>>68615650
Then they show their true colors and we fight back. Or what's your idea? Fighting ISIS with boypussies?
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>>68614820
what about the moderate germans who lived under hitler?
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>>68621045
That's pretty dark for a school kid. Were you in primary school?
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>>68614949
This. Conservatives criticized Obama when he said he wouldn't use nuclear weapons, because he didn't have to break the mutually assured destruction deterrent.
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>>68616982
Our opposition leader labours Jeremy Corbyn has said specifically that under no circumstance would he ever use nuclear weapons. Even going so far to say we should keep our nuclear submarines but get rid of the nukes to keep the jobs going.

I shit you not
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A dirty bomb on oilfields would be actually a really good idea.
But then, you'll actually stop terrorists funding, yet will be forced to buy oil from Russia or develop e-cars etc.
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>>68620997
>yea you better recognize them as a state which means you legitimize their action or you recognize them as a crowd of fanatics and terrorists.
Of course I do, their actions are legitimate in a muslim state of mind. It's you by trying to make them illegitimate (probably to protect your muslim bull) so you can shit the blame off islam and pretend ISIS is "bad muslims", when they follow the example of their prophet and are probably the "good muslims" (I mean according to their beliefs).

>Because a state sends soldiers and not terrorists
Exactly, you're spot on. ISIS sends soldiers here, more than 1 million last year and more are coming this year. It's not even counting "sleeping" soldiers (all the muslims that have been in Europe before the "refugee crisis", like abdeslam).

I don't make a difference between muslims, they all believe in kuran which tells them to kill or enslave me, live in a muslim state and destroy everything that's not muslim.
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>>68620997
calling them ISIS doesn't magically make them noble soldiers. only an ISIS sympathizer would think that.

stop being retarded.
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>>68621136
Good point. Beyond the military victory, the added civilian casualties probably caused the shift from militaristic to a peaceful society.
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>>68614820
"Moderate" muslims are either gone or dead.
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>>68614733
>It would work and anyone who says it wouldn't is a fucking idiot.
It would not... You also need to nuke Paris, Brussels, London, Washington DC (who have tons of pro-isis grafitti in arabic for a reason)
And it would not hurt ISIS at all by nuking Iraq and Syria. You also need to nuke Egypt, Libya, Yemen and most of Europe. And even then you will have missed tens of thousands isis fighters and they might grow to the same size again.
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>>68616865
Germans know their shit when it comes to wiping out a race. We should listen to this guy.
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>>68621258
Implying they would not willingly trade away radiating oil, enabling us to kill ourselfes slowly with the radioactive funes of our cars
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Please use nukes please use nukes please use nukes.

ISIS is full of millennials who simply do not understand why nukes are supposed to act as a deterrence. They need to see the destruction first-hand.

Maybe it wouldn't be a great idea for America to do it, but we need to support the use of nukes by any other nation such as Russia who seek to fight the ISIS threat.
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>>68619751
tfw this board is basically just a fantasy roleplay.
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>>68621450
Don't mistake eagerness with efficiency. The Germans have failed miserably in everything they've ever set out to do since the fall of Rome.

World wars, first to make nuke, EU, genocide, master race.

They're like the brain from pinky and the brain.
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>>68621162

I'm not sure now, it was a lifetime ago. Might have been. I remember thinking that fallout would be like tinfoil ticker-tape, as it was shown in the films. Which is of course nonsense and only the sort of thing a little kid would think.

I was 11 years old when "Threads" was shown on TV. "When the wind blows" came shortly after. Ahh good times.
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>>68620009
so close.

also, how the fuck or why the fuck do they detonate nukes underground?
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>>68620689
watch the edge kid
don't want to look too autistic irl too
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>>68618782
>Daech is just newspeak for shifting the blame off islam.

Daech is the arabic acronym for "the islamic state ..." so that don't make sense
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>>68621655
Are you arab ?
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>>68621567

tfw you will never sit in your front garden listening to the 4 minute warning on the radio.
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>>68614579
they need to just take out all of Africa tbhfam
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>>68621631

Atmospheric test band treaty.
Now we "detonate" them inside a computer.
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>>68621757
africa will take out itself if left alone.
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>>68615193
good that will bring the roaches out you pussy.
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>>68614579
God bless you Trump!! I know the perfect target.
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>>68621745
I must be getting old. This sounds very comfy.
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>>68620434
overly elaborate metaphor falls flat on its face
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>>68614818
The only thing they understand is force, but nukes have such a stigma, even if they were ideal in this situation (im not an explosives or tactical expert, couldn't say), would the international backlash be worth it? Then again by the time Trump is President and ISIS has stepped up its attacks, the whole western world might be begging us to do something.
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>>68618072
>Hydrogen bombs don't produce fallout.

guess all those people who died from Castle Bravo were faking it
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>>68621643

m8 ISIS is literally nothing, a few tens of thousands of people.

For every degree the temperature drops below 18C, deaths in the UK go up by nearly 1.5%.

>An estimated 43,900 excess winter deaths occurred in England and Wales in 2014/15; the highest number since 1999/00, with 27% more people dying in the winter months compared with the non-winter months.

Wiping out IS is like having an extra 2 months of Winter in the UK. Its nothing.
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>>68620689
SJWs are the HR department
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>>68619901
>No you redicule them.

So then call them the Islamic State. What is more ridiculous than the death cult of a pagan arabic moon god started by a 52 year old merchant who raped a 9 year old child?
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>>68622020

This is true.
Fortunately in business the opinion of the HR person counts for less than the opinion of virtually every other person. HR is a risk management function, the risk of falling foul of employment law.
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>>68615642
It may not work, but nothing else we've tried so far has worked. It seems obvious to me at this point that they are only as emboldened as they are now because they view America as weak, and rightly so with Obama at the helm. Maybe what we need is an actual military campaign against ISIS with a Commander in Chief who doesn't literally hate the United States.
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>>68615856
Once all of Europe is swamped in Muslims, and Germany, Sweden, France, etc are all 50% or more Muslim, in say.....20 years. They will look at the US and wonder how we escaped such a fate, they will look to our massive golden wall on the border, they will look to our refortified navy and air force, they will look to our intelligence services that were finally able to do their jobs. Then they will ask us for help.
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Let's get real here, terrorism will never die. There will always be terrorists.
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>>68621484
implying we wouldnt geiger-counter the shit out of them
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>>68621745
just because you were a quivering bitch growing up doesnt mean everyone else is
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>>68622108
HR departments are something that shouldn't even exist. If you're being discriminated against or harassed, call a lawyer or the police. That's what they're for.
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>>68621626
i like how much youve evolved mentally since the "good old days"
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>>68621819
oh thats so gay. im sure we have more attols
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>>68614579
A wise man rules out nothing.

Even if intent is never to drop a nuke on the ME, they should never forget that it is possible.
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>>68621979
youve got to be a pretty useless cunt to die from "winter" so i bet it's your 90 year olds
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You retards do realize that the moment we start using those weapons is the moment we'll never stop using them, right?

Enjoy your world in flames and the end of civilization. At best you will never feel comfort again. Maybe your childrens children, but not you.
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>>68622250
I'm hoping that Britain will lead the way in Europe.

We'll leave the EU, secure our immigration policy, continue our massive and invasive intelligence collection and watch from our natural borfer wall the White cliffs of Dover as Europe burns. We'll take in the refugees, like we did in World War Two from Dunkirk. Fortify and plan our response.
Great Britain will reveal her true firm as one giant aircraft carrier from where we will retake Europe!

Don't worry Americanbro, we've kept your bases here warm, you can come too
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>>68614579
we ALREADY USE NUKES AGAINST SANDNIGGERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtTQ8O7mH08

so does israel

nobody cares
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>>68621976
oh burn. although, arguing with a german about nuclear physics might not be a great idea
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>>68620273
its all yours friend,keep it
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>>68616862
This is the first time in a long ass time that both right and left media have united to slander one candidate
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>>68622072
Sauna pants. but only slightly
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>>68614579
unless your a kebab or you want to keep letting in kebabs whats the cause for alarm?

they call it the holy land lets make it look the part. glow in the dark glass as far as the eye can see
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>>68622630
precedent says otherwise
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>>68615293
>>IF YOU DEFEND YOURSELVES, YOU WILL ONLY BE ATTACKED MORE!

That's the entire "blowback" argument summed up in one sentence.
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>>68622753
That looks like something flammable exploded. It looked the same when a tank containing petroleum products exploded at a former refinery in 2009.
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>>68622753
they need to have a focus group and rename nukes
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>>68622605
You mean useless WW2 veterans?

Awesome.
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>>68622866
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Oh common, can we just use one nuke? I'm not even talking about a nation killer, just a small one, just enough to take out Raqqa? Please, just this once?
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>>68623066
All big explosions look like nukes, when you reach a certain tonnage you generate a mushroom cloud and multiple flashes
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>>68623171
>every 90 year old is a WW2 veteran
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Nuke the whole Middle-East while you are at it God Emperor!
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>>68623171
>fighting in a war 60 years ago makes you permanently valuable
No. Stop with the hero worship.
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>>68614579
ACTIVATE IT.
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>>68623144
they did. tactical nuclear weapon. the US, israel, russia, etc all use tactical nuclear weapons. our bunker busters are nukes, they dropped half a dozen of them in aghanistan alone, they dropped one on the baghdad airport, its on film. they also had dump trucks transferring out the dirt the day after it happened, and busing new dirt in.

tactical nuclear weapons aint shit, they just dont like to talk about it because the braindead hippie faggots think all nukes = nagasaki/hiroshima, they dont realize during the cold war the US mad nukes small enough to be shot out of a man portable rocket launcher.
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What about all the innocent people enslaved by ISIS? Nuke would kill them as well.
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>Using nukes against a stateless, borderless enemy
>Killing hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of innocent people in the process
>This is what Trump actually supports
>This is what /pol/ actually supports
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>>68623171
ayou completely misinterpreted what i was saying. go back to school, USA-Mosquito
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>>68614579
nuclear bombardment form orbit is the only way to be sure.
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>*Worried about the future*
Israel should be. I get an erection thinking about it.
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>>68623481
goddamnit there had to be a typo
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>>68614579
Nukes won't do anything...
Unless you fill them with pigs blood
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>>68623466
>Believing everything you see without checking the source
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>>68623525
>typo
Which one? ayou? i? go? No period at the end of your sentence?

>Australian education standards
But hey, at least we know about the Dream Time!
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>>68619751
Neutron bomb would be ideal. There are neutron bombs capable of leaving infrastructure primarily intact and wiping out radicals. The word "neutron bomb" is just too radical and brutal for commoners.
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>>68623598
>Willfully blinding yourself to how dangerous this man is when the evidence is right in front of your face
Trump always tries to change the subject or dance around the issue when he holds an unpopular opinion, and that is exactly what he's done regarding nuclear weapons. He is too much of a risk, we can't put this man in charge of the country.
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>>68615903
Hey this also solves global warming sea levels
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>>68623466
Tell me about it.
Being fueled by my burning hatred of minorities, I have the strong wish to protect the masses. Nukes are commissioned by Jews to eliminate unruly goyim. I couldn't use them. Dominance must be paid for in blood.
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>>68614820
they'd be killed by ISIS anyway for being "moderate" muslims aka not real muslims for it is a moot point to worry about their lives
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>>68614733
all he really need to do is say.
next terrorist attack on western soil is going to be responded with a nuclear strike on Mekka.
there is no way that any muslime terrorist would risk their most holiest of place being turned into a nuclear wasteland.

plus most Muslims would probably be more interested in protecting mekka then continuing their war with the west on kill every muslime that even hints at planing another terrorist attack
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>>68623333
Exactly.

Maybe it's better if they died sooner the vets so they wouldn't die with the anguish knowing the countries they fought for are turning to shit before their eyes.
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>>68618997
*their lives*
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>>68623786
Muslim terrorists dissent with modern Islam. Some of them would start believing a nuke on Mekka is just what they need to justify their caliphate.
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>>68622638
Your intelegance collecting work only as long internet is routet throu england.

Would be bad if eu decides to stop use the conection from england builds its own.
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>>68623249
>a small nuke
Then you'd be using a nuke for show, the fallout isn't worth it.
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>>68623943
not Mekka.
it´s way to important for them to risk it.
sure some of it would see it as an needed sacrifice but others would see it as an act of heresy and betray to islam.

it would definitely end in a massive muslim civil war.
which would be good for us
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