>yfw there is literally no none religious reason to hate gay or even trans people other than you think they look "faggy"
>religion dictates my behavior
Hi 1 post OP!
and yet there are gay reasons to hate religious people
COINCIDENCE? i don't think so
>>68589342
>When somebody's teeth are so rotten that they literally start to look like they're fusing together.
Is she triggered by tooth floss? Was she raped by a dentist?
>Homosexuality is a sin per the bible.
>Sin is bad.
Do I need to spell it out?
They shouldn't be hated, but It's not unreasonable to boot them from a congregation if they refuse to stop acting like it's okay to be a man bag.
>>68589342
The most common sexuality of homophobes is closeted gay.
>>68589643
Source?
>>68589342
Because there is no scientific physical evidence of Transsexualism being a thing. (inb4 the single debunked poorly done study that says otherwise)
Because their is no scientific physical evidence of Homosexualism being a uncontrollable characteristic and not a learned behavior.
Because both of them negatively effect our populations. Both of them primarily effect (for some odd reason) white men.
And for some reason its being pushed through every single avenue of media.
>>68589705
your dad and his flawless suction.
>>68589637
are you suggesting every christian should take the bible as literal fact? because i'm pretty sure not even the pope thinks that
>>68589770
>I come from the land down under
>>68589770
I'm actually curious to see what study you drew your statement from, because I enjoy learning.
Not trying to be a dick.
>>68589753
Still no reasons to hate them
>>68589342
More like yfw you haven't been able to make a man hard for at least 3 decades
>>68589827
The pope is a liar, and a blasphemer.
>Cherrypicking is A-Okay.
>>68589827
Thats because the current pope is barely christian. He may as well be fucking agnostic.
The bible is literal fact if you are a literal christian you fucking retard. I can clearly see you have never been around or raised in religion.
>>68589753
>negatively effect our populations
Because we all know the world's main problem i under population
>>68589753
>negatively effect our populations
http://grammarist.com/usage/affect-effect/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fa%27afafine#Role_in_Samoan_society
>>68589342
>no non religious reasons
Homosexuality is a cancer on society, regardless of religion, any state should try to get rid of it since all it spreads are childless adults who will eventually burden the system without leaving anything
also spreading STDs and social degeneracy in general
>muh greeks n romans n shiiet
look how they ended up, greeks too busy fucking boys to fend off the romans
the romans too busy fucking boys to fend off barbarians and muslims
>>68589753
how do they negatively affect populations?
OP already inb4d because they look faggy
a learned behavior doesn't mean its controllable, i've learned to fucking hate smarties 'cause i ate too many one time when i was a kid, i can't do anything about that
Yeah there is. They don't reproduce. By definition they can't reproduce. If all humans stop reproducing, that means no more humans, so all humanity dies. So being gay is basically like openly stating that you support human extinction. If you support gays that's like saying you support the bubonic plague and anthrax spores.
>>68589342
normalizing mental illness is bad and a slippery slope to the kind of cultural relativism that thinks radical islam is good for a nation
>>68589342
>Safe Space Sally
Is it wrong that I like this tune unironically?
>>68589849
Some study about penile blood flow and gay porn. "Straight men who find homosexuality morally objectionable" had the chubbiest chubbies. Blood pressure was also monitored - it was a direct penile response and not blood pressure and stress causing the change.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn
terrible source but there are others.
>>68590137
Forgot link:
https://soundcloud.com/safespacesally/safe-space-sally-be-yourself
>>68589342
>>68589872
I just gave you my reasons.
Hate is a strong word.
I am against the proliferation of Homosexual, Transsexual, Pedosexual, Otherkin, and other snowflakes Agenda.
It is a product of a sick mind and it's proliferation can only happen in a sick society.
A society who is a mirror of the degeneracy faced before in history before collapses. (ie Rome)
>>68589827
Protestants literally follow the bible (Sola Scriptura and all that jazz)
Catholics have a loose inerpretation
But either way homosexuality is a sin, its hard to make a case against/interpret it any other way.
>>68590174
Thanks.
>>68589342
They spread diseases and do drugs. Disgusting. Get them out and stop promoting and tolerating it. It's killing people literally,
>>68589770
>>68589980
>extremely obscure tribal example(s) of a third gender
>physical hard evidence of transsexualism
>>68589978
I did not say under or over population. Overpopulation is a meme anyways.
>>68589980
>Fa'afafine
More like FaFaFaggots amirite guys?
>>68589961
if you think the bible is literal fact you are the highest calibre of moron, also not even the most fundamentalist Christians obey a lot of the stuff in the old testament, i know its because thats jewish stuff but its not actually contradicted in the new testament, it got phased out to make the religion more attractive to gentiles. so how are you not cherrypicking?
I don't hate them.
It's not their fault they have a genuine mental illness.
I just hope they get the help they need.
>>68589342
>>68590241
>protestants
Less than human
>>68590336
>Ad Hominem
>Bandwagon Appeal
Nice evidence.
>>68590336
I am an atheist dumbass.
i was just telling you how religion works.
There are the people who believe the bible is fact (word of god)
ie Actual Christians
Then there are those who use it as a convenient way to feel good and as a political tool to justify their agenda as they see fit
ie Modern day "Christians"
>>68590528
The bible is an accurate historical record, even if you do not belive in a god.
>>68590333
>tribal
it's 2016 tribal people only exist in brazil and illinois(ICP) sillypants. They're trannies, accepted in many pacific rim countries. Being gay is forbidden so they wear wigs so they can get sex. Even mentally ill people deserve sex, don't you think?
>>68590335
the slang term in samoan is "devestation" as in what the parents and family feel on finding out.
in any case, if you want less obscure examples look at greece, or the middle east, or canada. it's not abnormal to fuck fruit, animals, inanimate objects, etc. why shouldn't two people be allowed? Are you really so puritan? Do you visualise the image of sharted-on-dick each time you see two men holding hands?
>>68589342
I hate gays because they are a plague on our society.
We don't need to accept you or your stupid way of thinking, just like religion.
The attention they crave should be given to them in the form of mental illness treatment.
Gays contribute nothing of value to society and should be gassed for being a genetic dead end.
>>68590498
Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Leviticus 19:19
When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD. Deuteronomy 23:1 NRSV
tell me again how the bible is literal fact
sure we should love the people, regardless of their sin. Pray they may see the light and turn away from their sinful ways.
But I absolutely despise the radical agendas and tactics of the alphabet mafia in trying to cow the religious into forced silence.
e.g. Disney's recent twink tantrum over Georgia's RFRA-styled conscience bill.
>>68590776
>gays contribute nothing of value
>he posts using a computer
>daily reminder that the gays are never going away
>daily reminder that don't make other people gay even if you feel like they're gaying up the place.
>daily reminder that social conservatives made an enemy of the gays, not the other way around.
>daily reminder that since they're a consistent and randomly emergent population if they all died today, there would be just as many in the next generation.
>>68590921
>computer made by fags
>not posting via phone
Back off ahmed
>>68591012
Should we fuck them in the ass to teach them a lesson?
>>68589342
I can hate whoever i want, i don't need a reason. I don't have to justify my hate to you or anyone else. Fuck off faggot.
>>68590753
>in any case, if you want less obscure examples look at greece, or the middle east, or canada
Historically, it has also been culturally acceptable for pedophiles to have sex with little boys. why shouldn't two people be allowed? Are you really so puritan?
>>68590753
>Do you visualise the image of sharted-on-dick each time you see two men holding hands?
If people want to shart diarrhea on eachothers dicks in the privacy of their own home, that's their business.
I just cant figure out why people demand to be applauded and celebrated when they decided to use that as their identity, and the main component of their public persona.
>>68589753
This post is a red pill.
>>68591151
yeah man i'm the only muslim in the world in favour of the gays
they did invent the computer though
>>68591277
proofs
>>68590820
1) Magical fetishism was common among certain peoples at the time. ie. They believed that stitching certain fabrics together, or combining certain objects together could bring good luck, or a good harvest, etc.
god said not to do that shit.
2) Compare Leviticus 21:17-24. Such persons, exhibiting a mutilation of that human nature which was made in God's image, were rejected from the covenant entirely. However, they could be proselytes (compare Acts 8:27). The Old Testament itself foretells Isaiah 56:3-5 the removal of this ban when under the kingdom of Messiah the outward and emblematic perfection and sanctity of Israel should be fulfilled in their inner meaning by the covenanted presence and work of the Holy Spirit in the Church.
>15 seconds of research.
3) It was a cultural thing.
If you spent as much time actually reading the bible to understand it, as you do cherrypicking verses out of context you'd be far more informed.
>>68591352
alan turing
fucking burgerdumbs
i mean i guess there was charles babbage before him but he never actually finished it
>>68591496
the baggage difference engine was the shit. there's a functional replica in a museum somewhere. I still drool over that shit on youtube sometimes.
>>68589342
>says there is no reason
>then cites a reason in the same sentence
I don't hate fags but this is low quality b8 m8
>>68589643
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING THAT MEANS YOU SECRETLY LIKE IT
liberal logic
>>68590468
this this this
>>68591476
fair enough on the second one
the other two you ignore because its common sense though, but the bible still says to do them, you're still cherrypicking, theres an argument to be made that now its common sense that being gay is not fundamentally evil and so you should cherrypick that out as well
>>68591654
i know man its so dope, ada lovelace as well, writing the worlds first computer program for a computer that haddn't even been built, fucking badman
doesn't take away from how nuts what alan turing achieved was though, he was fucking amazing, i study neuroscience and he wrote papers in my subject that are still taught in undergrad, he wasn't even a biologist but he still managed to revolutionise the field in his spare time for fun
>>68591277
False
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage
Fags are disease vectors.
>>68592074
I disagree. The command was given to prevent people from engaging in that particular type of magical fetishism. I know this because I understand the context.
As for homosexuality, there is a ton of research and statistics that show how terrible it is for the body. God didn't want people to do things that were physically damaging to body that they had been given. Circumcision being the only exception.
As for the baggage difference engine, that thing makes me hard. I love the fact that it had an automatic typesetting feature. Math, AND a way to print the results? Fucking unreal.
>>68592516
straight sex can be pretty physically damaging for the female
also lesbians, lesbian sex isn't physically damaging
yeah so its irrelevant now and ignored, thats my point, it doesn't specifically say that you're allowed to wear clothing woven from two fabrics if you don't think its some weird magical shit (as far as i'm aware), so theres obviously some room for personal interpretation of the bible. i'm pretty sure that the ability to personally interpret the bible was the reason for the protestant reformation
>>68592511
yeah but thats mostly because driving the subculture underground made it intersect with IV drug use, theres nothing inherent in gay sex that makes it better at carrying disease, in fact lesbian sex makes it a lot harder to transfer a disease than straight sex
>>68593028
Homosexuality has been shown to significantly reduce the lifespan of the participant.
It's just the truth. But I do understand your perspective.
>>68592516
>God didn't want people to do things that were physically damaging to body that they had been given. Circumcision being the only exception.
Look, I'm no Jew or Christian, but in the environment of the time, circumcision was a way to avoid infection, whether fungal, viral or bacterial. In those days, superstition was often effective, even though they had no idea why.
>>68593337
Anal sex spreads HIV and other diseases much more readily. And lesbians are exposed to much higher levels of cooties than normal women.
>>68593407
i mean, because they get murdered, and have a higher rate of stds, but both of those are consequences of driving the culture underground
>>68593533
>straight people never have anal sex
>gay men only ever have anal sex
>>68589342
>Homosexuals were created by god as a punishment
Or did you just decide "I'm going to do absolutely no fucking research on my retarded ass claims because I'm an AIDS-riddled meth addicted tranny"?
Sounds like that's the case. I'm not even a christfaggot.
>>68593642
Gay men have much more anal sex on average, with partners that also have much more anal sex on average and so on. That's what makes them disease vectors.
>>68589342
I don't hate them. I and billions of others who follow the catholic faith disagree with their choices, but don't hate them.
Roman Catholics follow the rule that anything sexual which prevents the possibility of procreation is a sin. There is your religious reason to disagree with homosexuality.
>>68589342
One is degenerate and the other is mentally ill.
It's a violation of gender roles, so if you care about your society actually being cogent and not just a pack of hedonists waiting to die, you'll generally wish it frowned upon.
I don't hate them because they're transgendered, I'm annoyed by them for the same reason that I'm annoyed by 14 year olds. They're immature, whiny, and act on emotion rather than logic. Logic says it's because they've been stunted psychologically from trauma resulting from an uncomfortable adolescence. I'm sorry to hear that, but it's not my problem they've let their entire lives be shaped by assholes. Stop being cunts.
>>68590384
>>68593590
>have a higher rate of stds, but both of those are consequences of driving the culture underground
To be fair, one reason for the higher infection rate among gay men is the fact that you're fucking in the ass. Anal fissures, from what I understand, transmit the disease more readily than a vagina that has evolved to accept a penis. Our evolutionary development has little to say on the morality of fucking, I'm just telling you how it is.
>>68589342
>it is normal for a man to put an erect penis in his mouth
>it is normal for a man to get fucked in the ass
>it is normal for a man to want to fuck another man in his ass
>it is normal for a woman to not be attracted to penis but get fuckes by her girlfriend with a strapon
>>68593028
lesbianism is the number one cause of HPV spread. having lesbos dye of vagina cancer is perfect retribution.
I just hate obnoxious people and fags tend to fall into that spectrum along with niggers, spics, rednecks, yellow bellies, and any other negative stereotype.
Be a butt pirate all you like, stop clogging the streets with your dildo juggling.
>>68593758
so just make jamal wear a condom next time he's fucking you if you're so scared of getting gay aids
in all seriousness though, thats not why they have higher rates of aids, at least the main reason. the main reason is that for most of its history homosexuality was considered the ultimate taboo and so people who engaged in it tended to form communities that engaged in other, dangerous taboos. now that it isn't you can see gay communities becoming a lot safer.
>>68594242
Anal sex is also much more likely to rupture a condom.
Wrong.
I hate them for being race traitors and voting for the Left.
>>68593590
>driving the culture underground means you can't refrain from ass fucking or using a condom/protection at least
>implying it is "driven underground" today anyways
Your argument was ok until you started making up excuses for the std rates
>>68593896
See, this is why I try to distance myself from others who share my views, more than half the time. I don't care why you feel the way you do. I won't try and diagnose your "sickness".
I just want to be left alone. You can be whatever you want and be attracted to whatever you want, just don't accuse me of being part of any "oppressive force" or "privileged few" that is keeping you down. Just because I'm straight and white, doesn't mean that I'm rich and privileged. I'm poor. No one gives a shit. I'm essentially a well-educated hick. No one gives a shit. I just want to be left alone, and not be accused of bigotry for not supporting your grand social movement.
>>68594328
true but i'm pretty sure the effect of that is negligible
also
>not all gay men have anal sex all the time
>>68589753
>mostly affect white men
Actually false. The more melanin in the skin, the more likely to suffer from sexual disorders like homosexuality and transsexualism. It's just that no one really cares about niggers.
>>68594439
i never said it was, but the community is still mostly self contained in who it fucks
gay men use condoms about the same ammount straight men use them
>>68594575
>The more melanin in the skin, the more likely to suffer from sexual disorders like homosexuality and transsexualism
Correlation vs. Causation.
I would predict that the stats will even out.
>>68594439
also something being dangerous doesn't make it immoral so this whole argument is irrelevant
>>68589342
>The majority of transexuals commit suicide. >Suicide comes about because of untreated mental illness.
????
>>68589342
Atheist here.
Trans people are mentally ill. A symptom of thinking the grass is greener on the other side, being raised by a single mother/cucked husband, and being just plain ugly.
Gay people are for the most part ok. Their "culture" wish has been pushed on them and morphed out of control is extremely disgusting.
People put way to much sex and not bigger things in life. Though this is mostly a male centric goal.
Woman just want to breed which is fine and normal.
>>68594792
>the community is still mostly self contained in who it fucks
I kinda doubt that, and even if it were, that might tend to skew the numbers up, not down.
>gay men use condoms about the same ammount straight men use them
That doesn't have anything to do with the number of breakages re: ass sex vs. vag sex, let alone the likelihood of a partner being positive.
I'm not trying to be a bigot, just scientific.
>>68589753
But a lot of the behavior we engage in the modern age effects society negatively yet people don't hate that?
>>68594944
>Trans people are mentally ill
I don't know how you can think this if you accept the possibility of gays. I just want everyone to live their own life. I can't blame anyone for what they're attracted to, so by the same token, I can't blame them for feeling differently than their genitals tell them they ought to.
Just leave me out of it, do your thing, and I don't care.
>>68594944
i read a fucking hilarious leftcuck article earlier, the point was meant to be "nobody is 100% cis", but the dude was like
>people laughed at trannies when i was a kid and i joined in not really knowing what they were
>always kind of liked female clothes because they were a lot more interesting than male clothes, diddn't wear them though (pretty normal IMO)
>go on 4chan
>see trap threads
>"realise" that i'm a tranny because i like the idea of dresses
>>68589872
>>68589980
>>68590057
good goys
>>68595452
the definition of mental illness is when it causes you a problem, to me anyway, being gay isn't really a problem, but wanting to chop your dick off is
i don't really care if people want to ignore gender roles, dress however you want, i'll even humour you and call you by your preferred pronouns, but gender reassignment surgery is fucking barbaric, and is breaking the hippocratic oath IMO.
>>68595551
I think a lot of kids just want to feel special. Now that being gay isn't special, some want to be trans. Or "otherkin", or disabled, or "fat-special", or whatever other flavor of the week. It's funny, it's a same symptom of the channers who don't want to be "normies". They self-diagnose as autists, schizos, addicts, cutters, etc...they just want to be considered special, cared about, listened to. It's really fucking sad.
>>68589342
Transgenders are just faggots who can't even wait for the matrix or brain transplants so they have to mutilate their dicks and still feel suicidal.
Gays are ok as long as they aren't faggots.
>>68589342
I was raped by a gay guy. Are you saying I have no right to dislike them or fear them? Are you victim blaming my rape?
>>68596153
depends, what were you wearing at the time?
>>68595876
How is chopping off your dick a problem if it's something you want? I agree i think it's barbaric and unnecessary and we should not be encouraging people to do it.. but i don't see how it would effect your life enough for it to be a problem ( after the actually cutting and healing part that is )
>>68595876
>but gender reassignment surgery is fucking barbaric, and is breaking the hippocratic oath IMO.
I see your point, but you sound like the anti-circ people, and keep in mind that these are adults. I will never tell someone what they can or can't do with their own body. Get tattooed, get pierced, get your dick turned inside out. Just don't come crying to me if you regret it.
I could never be an abortionist. That doesn't mean I'm not glad that there are doctors out there who do it. Same with sex-change docs, I guess. "Do no harm" is kinda subjective.
>>68596384
Fuck off. That shouldn't matter. Gay guys can't go around raping. We can't even goto the police because of the shame.
>>68596730
>We can't even goto the police because of the shame
Rape victims feel that no matter their gender or orientation. You're not special.
>>68589342
If there's no religious script concerning thid, why do you assume people who are against homosexuality are religious?
>>68596730
>We can't even goto the police because of the shame.
Your shame about what? Being gay? Being a victim?
>>68596400
>>68596701
yeah thats obviously just my opinion and i wouldn't try and enforce it on people who don't agree with me, but treating an unrelated psychological issue with dangerous elective surgery seems like something that medical science would never consent to in different political circumstances. i mean if i went to the doctor and told them i'd be happier if they amputated my arm they'd probably section me
well at least until recently when doctors have started taking "trans abled" people seriously. isn't being trans abled just what we used to call munchhausen syndrome?
Yes there is.
Thats like saying there is no reason to hate <insert food here> because you think its gross.
>>68597204
Yeah, I get what you're saying. Sometimes there's a file line between mental illness and a societal norm. The trans-abled stuff really makes you wonder where the line will be drawn. I didn't mean to criticize, and I probably come down more on your side in the end, at least when we're being forced to approve of this stuff, let alone pay for it. I can definitely understand your frustration just from what I've read about NIH operations you guys are paying for.
>>68597204
I wonder if it is that easy? I actually know someone who is trans and they said they had to jump through hoops and it took ages to convince their doctor of their condition and start to transition. So from their perspective it's very hard, from our perspective it seems like they give the surgery option too freely.
If surgery really is the best and only answer medical science has right now.. well i guess that's that, it's hard to understand tho.
>>68597696
i mean i guess if statistically it does actually prevent suicides that it might be good to have as an option, but it shouldn't be the end goal of being trans, if it wasn't so dangerous i'd say it should be treated as body modification and not as an actual medical procedure.
i reckon in a few decades we'll look back on it like we look back on lobotomies though, if i was a doctor i could never condone recommending it
Don't give children wrong examples of behaviors to follow. When degenerates show up on the streets or in media, beat the hell out of them. It's that easy. Force them to shit the fuck up about their mental illness. I don't go around showing heterosexual sex down my children's throats. I don't want my children to see deviant lifestyle as an alternative to normal parenthood.
>>68594944
>Trans people are mentally ill.
>Gay people are for the most part ok.
They have already won in America I see.
>>68598205
Yup probably. I think there is a culture of encouraging it tho. I am willing to believe a certain % of people are born feeling like they are in the wrong body or w/e, i also believe a small % of people are born gay but the rest? It's all learned.
>>68589435
first post called it
OP is a hit and run shitposter
>>68597650
to be fair it happens so rarely that the amount of money made back in taxes on the tabloids covering the story probably covers the procedure, i reckon complaining about it is probably worth the tiny amount of money it costs me in taxes
