"trickle down economics is a myth"
>>68540329
In a globalized society it is. Don't see anything wrong with this statment.
FUCK I HATE THIS SHIT. Leftists constantly scream "muh no trickle down economics" thinking that trickle down refers to giving more money to wealthy and letting it make its way to poor people. But what keyenes referred to as trickle down economics was raising government spending so that money would trickle to the working class, TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS IS A FUCKING IDEA BASED IN LEFTIST PRINCIPLE.
So is Keysnian economics
>>68540453
why does it change when its global?
yeah trickle down doesn't work...so you have to give the government more money because if they have lots of money there will be more jobs.....shit that sounds like trickle down
>>68540611
In America trickle down economics is associated with supply side economics otherwise known as reaganomics. Don't play dumb faggot.
>>68540643
this
>>68540329
Right, which is why even the poorest people in america have obesity, cell phones, and flatscreen tvs.
Can someone explain to this moron that wealth is more than just greenbacks?
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>>68540867
Its bullshit because money and goods are all subjectively valued theyre only worth what the opinions of the buyer and seller align to be. money has no truly agreeable and stable value at the communal level
>>68540787
Money doesn't stay inside the country and therefore isn't recycled back into its market.
>>68541035
that's just technology
real wages have been stagnant or declining for most people
>>68541050
in a nutshell: you can never practically decentralize an individual opinion
>>68541157
lmao so it just goes to china and stays there? then why do all Chinese billionaires vacation in america? sure thats not much coming back butthe money always cycles just in more complex ways
>>68540830
But theres nothing about trickle down in supply side ideas....
>>68541175
And what's the most free-market industry in America?
The tech industry, right.
Can you do the rest of the thinking here or do I have to write a thousand words explaining why Sanders is wrong and stupid?
>>68541175
> thats just technology
> thats just food water and shelter too
"real wages" is subjective, sustenance and luxuries are a better measure of wealth
>>68541588
Dude what? The tech industry has extremely close ties to the government.
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>>68541588
even africans have cell phones
who gives a shit?
your argument is dumb. Literally everyone agrees that wages have been shit for decades.
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>>68541567
You motherfuckers are either liars or paid shills.
>The economist John Kenneth Galbraith noted that "trickle-down economics" had been tried before in the United States in the 1890s under the name "horse and sparrow theory." He wrote, "Mr. David Stockman has said that supply-side economics was merely a cover for the trickle-down approach to economic policy
Trickle down economics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics
Either way, trickle down economics is more appropriately called VOODOO economics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8hnM6xNjeU
>>68541709
I have close ties with my friends but they cant force me to do shit. collaboration =/= control
>>68542004
>Literally everyone agrees that wages have been shit for decades
can you really base policy off this subjective and annoyingly worded opinion?
>>68540830
Reaganomics was basically light keynesianism, and it worked
>>68542033
>calls others shills
>proceeds to shill
>"trickle down economics is a myth"
So he's saying we should tax anybody who makes over 50k at a 90% tax rate.
>>68541413
Are you seriously suggesting that Chinese billionaires vacating in US would be enough to counter the bleeding money that goes to foreign markets? Trickle down economics don't work as well in a globalized market than a nationalized market because a big portion of the money that rich is make is allowed to bleed out of US instead of getting invested back to the home market and indirectly creating jobs.. I don't really know how to put it in any simpler form than that.
>>68542136
holy shit it's not an opinion. Do you know what real money is? It has been declining faster the less money you make. The former treasury official even showed a graph on Morning Joe.
>>68542182
I'm shilling by telling the truth and providing evidence? That's shilling now?
>>68542196
No im saying it will bleed out of the US but in a few years a few decades it will cycle back beause money can leave the country but it wont leave the earth it doesn't just evaporate and just how information travels person to person money will travel person to person no matter the size of the population
>>68542334
>holy shit it's not an opinion
definition of opinion
i really cant tell if this is bait
>>68542557
>No im saying it will bleed out of the US but in a few years a few decades it will cycle back
Oh yay I can't wait. Just a few more decades for that trickle to finally hit me.
>>68542788
shut the fuck up who other people trade with isnt your business
>>68542557
Some of it definitely will, but not all. Money is not a boomerang you can throw into the currents of world market and expect it all to come back.
Even if it all came back, a few decades is just too long time span to depend on.
>>68543030
Lel so angry. I've already debunked you.
>>68542033
Back to the drawing board pal.
>>68542938
>See Norway
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>>68543030
nothings ever going to "finally hit" you wtf does that even mean all liberals are so god damn entitled its sickening
>>68543235
> im done arguing you phrased your counter argument in a mean way
>>68543304
The trickle will hit me.
>>68543215
IM NOT SAYING ITS A BOOMERANG IM SAYING THAT ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES DONT DEPEND ON POPULATION SIZE >150 PEOPLE WHEN YOU BUY SOMEETHING AT THE STORE DO YOU EXPECT THE MONEY TO JUST "BOOMERANG" BACK?
>>68541035
If you think the poor in this country live in luxury, you're delusional. Obesity doesn't necessarily come from too much nutrients. It comes from too many calories. Many poor people are obese but still have deficiencies. Cell phones are more common than they were 30 years ago, but that's technological innovation, which owes a lot to the public sector as well as private innovation. Many people still have no cell phone. Small numbers of people don't have reliable electricity. I'm not sure where you got the idea that everybody here has a flat screen TV. That's bullshit and you know it.
>>68542557
I bet you will feel like a fool when Elon Musk makes the first space bank to hide his money from that whore alimony.
>>68543616
WOW TRULY ENLIGHTENING ARGUMENT YOU HAVE THERE
>>68542938
Socialism isn't a monolithic ideology.
>>68543661
This is what you're fighting for.
Do you ever feel like a useful idiot?
Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722
>leftist economies
>>68543661
I don't honestly understand what you're trying to imply then. Sorry for not being able to assist you further.
>>68543841
>Obesity doesn't necessarily come from too much nutrients. It comes from too many calories
>poor have a surplus of food water and shelter but im sure we can still feel bad for them because feels
>>68543964
Kek
>It can't leave Earth's orbit!!!
>>68544106
You retards are still shitposting that debunked chart?
>>68544074
Theyll spend it somewhere their kids will spend it somewhere I truly do not care its not my money
>>68544143
> I don't honestly understand what you're trying to imply then
> I dont have an argument omg i cant even
>>68542405
>truth
wew lad
>>68544327
It's dead money. Go read about the velocity of money.
>>68544209
Eating fast food 90% of the time isn't adequate nutrition. There are actually people in this country who don't have water or adequate shelter. Get out of your fantasy land.
>>68544450
>It's dead money
>implying a subjective/fluid concept of wealth can ever be hidden away from humanity just because some paper is in a room somewhere
>implying I should care about the rooms where others keep their paper
>>68544493
1/100,000 Americans starves to death each year and its usually on purpose
get out of your fantasy land
>>68544660
So it's good for the economy NOW if the money is hoarded until maybe their great grandchildren spend it?
Again, you completely don't understand the concept of the velocity of money.
You're just here to shill for the rich, plutocrats and globalists.
>>68544779
>made up statistics
>doesn't under the health effects of malnutrition
Buddy you need meds.
>>68544074
And you would address that, how? the only way would be according to trump. Unless according to bernie, you wanted to steal it and redistribute.
>>68544440
>The economist John Kenneth Galbraith noted that "trickle-down economics" had been tried before in the United States in the 1890s under the name "horse and sparrow theory." He wrote, "Mr. David Stockman has said that supply-side economics was merely a cover for the trickle-down approach to economic policy
Trickle down economics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics
Either way, trickle down economics is more appropriately called VOODOO economics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8hnM6xNjeU [Embed]
>>68544779
Hungry Americans aren't usually starving to death, but they're very often lacking in nutrition.
>>68544821
youre saying
> its not optimal for my personal concept of what a perfect economy should be
im saying
> have your opinion i dont care
>>68544305
>most of them are part time jobs
>>68540329
> raising the min. wage to double what is now will create trickle up economics and we all are making double are wages!
Its not trickle down so much as it is drag up. Rich people want nice things, so they have to apend money and help nice things to start being made around them.some people call this gentrification.
You cant really deny that the standard of living available for the poor and lower class of americans has gone up drastically in recent times, even if their control of total wealth has gone down though.
>>68544907
show me one human adult without at least one vitamin deficiency
>Lol if I just make this guy rich he'll make me rich too xDDDDD
Conservadumbs in a nutshell.
tom sowell on trickle down econ
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1875803387001/the-myth-of-trickle-down-economics/?#sp=show-clips
>>68545051
and? in all this time talking you could have started a charity
>>68545174
this
>>68540329
Why do we see a fuckton of these "trickle down economics is a myth" threads every fucking day?
Shills trying to force a meme or actual retarded bernifags?
>>68544907
I'm talking to one right now with a severe cranial deficiency.
>>68545138
95% full time actually.
What's the matter loser? Can't find a job?
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
>>68545391
great ad hom buddy youre really beating me in this discussion
>>68545187
I'm talking to one right now with a severe cranial deficiency.
>>68545051
That's an improvement over ACTUALLY starving, you understand? Which used to be the case. And things will continue to improve unless you get in the way with government because you think it isn't happening fast enough.
>>68545537
http://intellectualconservative.com/obama-proclaims-unemployment-down-11-million-jobs-created-but-he-doesnt-proclaim-the-following-facts/
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>>68546308
>http://intellectualconservative.com
As if such a thing exists.
Hey buddy, we're talking about job creation. Not unemployment rate.
Can you please try to apply your debunked talking points correctly?
I showed you a chart showing that the Obama economy has created over 14 million jobs.
So you claimed they're all part time.
I debunked that talking point.
Now you're jumping to your next failed talking point.
Perhaps the reason why you're so misinformed is because you get your information from
>http://intellectualconservative.com
