>be western
>bomb middle east for centuries, kill 1.5 million innocent civilians
>support terrorist groups
>draw completely fucked up borders to destabilize them even more
>move an entire peoples group to an area they do not belong to
>WTF WHY IS ISLAM SO EVIL ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS
>>68510365
>germany
nice thread, ahmed.
>>68510365
> Get killed by Americans
> Bomb Brussels
Brilliant
>>68510365
Why you gotta bring up old shit, Ahmed?
>>68510365
Here's your (You) Muhammad.
>>68510365
It's payback for over milenium of conquest
> be sandnigger
> die in the ME
> die in upcoming european race war
>>68510365
I'm 6'5" with a 10 inch cock. I'll tell niggers where their country is.
>>68510365
Nice try Muslim
>>68510365
>see thread
>,,please don't be made by a german"
for fucks sake.
also, muslims have been killing each other for quite a while too, so why care about the middle east? we should've just let them to be honest.
>>68510365
Who gives you the internet in colone Kreuzberg?
>>68510365
>Be durka durka
>MUHAMMED HALLAHJ
>Fuck a goat
>ALLAH AKBUUUUUR
>Blow urself up
>FUCKING WEST R U AT IT AGAINTZ!!!!
>>68510365
Why cant you just not bomb people?
>>68510365
Turkroach Shitpost ®
>>68510660
you're already losing the race war and it hasn't even started
>>68510365
>>68510365
>OP makes a thread spilling the red pill about the whole mess
>everyone is shitting their pants using logical fallacies to dismiss the truth
typical
>>68510365
>be middle eastern
>kill christians and take their lands for a milennia
>surprised there is animosity
>>68510954
only the strong shall survive
Have you ever noticed how most of these terror attacks are aimed towards NATO countries? Who is and was bombing the middle east for more than 10 years? NATO. Look at Austria, not a NATO member and not a single terrorist attack, even though they have a large muslim population.
>>68510744
>made by a german
I have bad news about the demographics of 20-35 year olds in your country
>>68510365
Fuck them.
We should just decide to pragmatically or even ruthlessly pursue our goals and not pussy foot around. They hate us because we fuck them over and they demand we stop or make amends? Fuck them over even more and show them their place. Go down there, destabilize all their countries and destroy their fucked up culture for good. At the same time wall off the west and expell all the sand nigger we already have here.
>>68510365
>be muslim
>launch war on the rest of the world for over a millennium
>be terrorist groups
>get mad when people tell you to fuck off
>>68510365
>move an entire peoples group to an area they do not belong to
you can always go back to 'syria' if you feel you don't belong
>>68511110
Mother Merkel won't allow it
>>68511106
>please don't be made by someone who lives in germany
better?
>ahmed
>mohammed
>yusuf
>cuck
>liberal
Thats the only counter arguments /pol/ can think of when confronted with valid points.
Why are you bringing up a serious topic on a board that wants a failed businessman with the intellect of a ten year-old to run their country?
>>68510992
>be Arab
>take Jerusalem
>allow all Christians and Jews to live in peace, only having to pay a small tax
>be Christian Crusader
>take and sack a Christian city
>kill fellow Christians
>take Jerusalem
>kill every single jew and muslim
>be arab
>take city back
>escort all christian civilians back to their homelands without killing anyone
>>68510365
>>bomb middle east for centuries
wat
>>68511230
yes Yusef
>be Muslim
>grow up being brainwashed into worshiping a false prophet
Remove kebab worldwide
>>68510365
Germany yes!
>>68510365
Centuries? Might want to adjust your scale.
>>68510992
>implying those aren't rightfully Phoenician lands
Fuck off crusadecuck
>>68511230
You tell me
After every attack the media rushes to get a Muslim cleric on to talk about muh religion of peace. When will it stop? What will it take?
This guy was just on CNN
>be Kebab Al'Kabob
>Military bombs you
>Go out and kill civilians unrelated to the nations bombing you
>Cry when military comes and bombs you again, even angrier than before
We know Germany. We just don't care.
We don't want brown people or Islam, what part of this is so hard to understand?
> try to invade Europe since 627
> enslave millions of christians
> hurr durr why do they hate us ;_;
>>68510365
Islam has always been shit. I could care less about the Middle East, the problem is that our leaders have allowed you into Europe.
>>68510365
Blood is on your hands. Islam is Imperialistic in it's definition. You didn't even bother to research who they are, just keep firing the welfare cannon for more votes. What could go wrong. It's your fault.
https://youtu.be/fPE3OxEOkG4
>>68511498
Zimmerman converted?
>MFW there will never EVER be white guilt for the sand niggers like the regular niggers
>>68510954
>France
back in 93 you go
>>68511498
I don't get how Muslims aren't lynched in the streets after that. In a civilized country, that guy would be torn to pieces in minutes.
>>68510463
source on that?
>>68511502
don't forget the part where Kebab Al'Kabob gets funded by rich muslim elites to go kill those civilians (who just so happen to be citizens of countries that are economic and political rivals of said muslim elites)
>>68510365
>be lefting ignoramous
>blame west for all worlds problems
>claim islam has nothing to do with muslims being violent
>cannot explain why muslims have done jihad fore more than a thousand years
>before the west did shit
Germany..
>>68510365
>>68510365
>Bomb
>For centuries
You're pretty fucking dopey
>>68511517
If you don't want brown people or Islam, stop bombing their countries, stop destabilizing the middle east, take your artifical country called Israel and its people back, stop supporting radical islamic groups with weapons and money to wage a proxy war, and stop thinking that people who have had enough of your shit and want to fight back are evil
>>68511557
oy vey diversity goyim
>>68510365
>be western
>bomb a christian european country for trying to fight islamic terrorism
>import 20,000 mujaheddin into europe
>kill innocent civilians in the processes
>WTF WHY IS ISLAM SO EVIL ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS
>>68511498
"Islam is a religion of peace" is a meme now. It can't be stopped.
>>68511672
Ahmadiyyas aren't so bad, as far as muslims go. They're typically the kind of muslim who actually get pissed off about radicals
>>68511680
>>68511498
Invite a muslim cleric on TV. He tells ppl islam need a serious reform form the top or it will never be a good religion.
ill just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2DcasF2Y4
>>68510365
>>be western
>>do all that
Pretty impressive track rec for a cowboy movie. Maybe you tent people should stop getting upset at media.
>>68510365
Payback for the caliphate's invasion will never end
>>68511745
that would not change anything, muslims are trying to conquer Europe
way before Iraq, muslim immigration was already surging, specially thanks to the help of left-wing traitors
the brussels attackers didn't arrive because of Iraq, but because the moronic s.p.a. gave citizenship to a bunch of moroccan "political refugees", their parents, back in 1970
>>68511255
>b-but w-we w-were h-humane w-warlords
>s-slavery i-is h-humane
>r-religion o-of p-peace
I wasn't even talking about the holy land you cuck, I was talking about the Umayyad caliphate's expansion and Ottoman aggression
>>68510365
>t. Mehmet
>>68511680
http://memory.loc.gov/master/mss/mtj/mtj1/005/0400/0430.jpg
if you can't read that:
https://books.google.ch/books?redir_esc=y&id=CaPylhG5Ee0C&q=Koran#v=snippet&q=Koran&f=false
>>68511816
eat shit nigger, do your research before you spout dumb shit
>>68511802
All memes get old eventually. Do you see people posting troll face unironically anymore? They'd get ridiculed. It's becoming the same with the "Religion of peace" meme.
>>68510365
>be western
>bomb middle east for centuries, kill 1.5 million innocent civilians
>support terrorist groups
western=/=USA
>draw completely fucked up borders to destabilize them even more
and yet they failed to re-draw them themselves for shit
>move an entire peoples group to an area they do not belong to
western euros did that crap I admit
>WTF WHY IS ISLAM SO EVIL ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS
this is quite true senpai.
>>68510365
>bomb middle east for centuries
>for centuries
>>68511745
>fighting back
>bombing civilians
>>68511951
t. Jelena Milić, Centar za evroatlantske studije
>>68510510
>Implying Brussels is not full of Jews
>Implying Belgians have clean hands
>Implying Belgium is not one of the main gun markets of Europe
>Implying Benelux isn't home to some of the main harbours of Europe
>Implying US-funded rebels would bomb thr US
>Implying USA are the only cause of trouble in the Middle East
>>68510510
French, Anglos and the EU supported or tolerated the attacks against Assad and Kadafi the previous years. Those states are responsible for the growth of ISIS(along with the US).
Of course the attacks in Brussels are not war actions, they have other goals.
>>68511745
Think about it this way: if they're being bombed, atleast they won't just come to germany for free money.
ironically, the Jewish fabrication of the holocaust is keeping Germany safe... all those Muslims think the Nazis will just gas them all if they step too much out of line... much to the chagrin of Mother Merkel and Barry O.
>>68511255
>be Ottoman
>take Constantinople
>massacre thousands and enslave 30,000+ christians
>reminisce about the golden meme of islam
>>68511970
To add to this, the best way to deal with the mindless drones who parrot the "religion of peace" meme is not with pure facts and logic - because to these people those things are not important - but with ridicule (of course mixed with some facts and logic, but it doesn't take much because their position is so indefensible).
To them, social standing and consensus are more important than truth - so attack them accordingly.
> Be muslim
> invade, rape, enslave Europeans for centuries
> Make christians second-class citizens in their own countries
> WTF, WHY ARE EUROPEANS - oh wait, Europeans didn't use this as an excuse to stagnate and languish for centuries afterwards
>>68510365
I hate how people in the west dont realise that mohammed peacefully rode into mecca on a donkey and told his followers to peacefully spread his word and follow local laws and muslims were 100% peaceful and never hurt anyone until evil byzantines and sassanids started oppressing them.
>>68511745
also
>stop thinking that people who have had enough of your shit and want to fight back are evil
You're literally defending acts of terrorism right now, lad. Attacks on true innocents. You're defending the suicide bombing in brussels, you're defending the attacks in paris. Lots of innocents dead, families wiped out, families torn apart. Did THEY destabilize the middle east?
There's no excuse for this. None. There's explanations, but no excuses. Nothing justifies that.
>>68512266
>Implying Benelux isn't home to some of the main harbours of Europe
Thats just us. Luxemburg is fucking land locked and Antwerp has like 1/100th the capacity of Rotterdam. Belgium isnt much of a shipping country. We are.
>>68512537
>>68510365
vergiss dich du ölauge
>>68511680
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
Read up about the Barbary Wars and the Tripoli pirates. It's a great example of how this shit has been going on for a long time. The only difference is now the "pirates" are richer and therefore even more dangerous.
What's funny is that before the Barbary wars, the international response to Arabic corsairs was appeasement, paying them off to not attack their transports - which they would still attack anyway, even after being paid this "protection money." They would laugh at the largesse of the westerners while getting richer and fatter off their naivete, until the early US decided enough was enough and sent its Marines to go deal with the problem once and for all. Or so they thought. They never could have predicted the existence of Middle Eastern oil reserves, and how they would revive these disgusting cultures
>>68510744
so did europeans.
>>68512831
now they have nukes
>>68511025
Austria are cucks. You are deluded if you don't think Islams goal is world domination, but you are in Germany. Besides you are forgetting intent. Mudshit goat-fucking terrorists goal IS to kill innocents. Yes the west bombed countries in the Middle East, but with the intent to kill tyrants and criminals. Faggots like you forget how Saddam was massacring people. People like you stand around and bemoan anybody doing anything and pretend pacifism actually works. Just look at how those Christian martyr pacifists in the Levant really put a stop to ISIS with the severance of their heads. Sure showed them.
Face it. The invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan was justified. You faggots are just revisionists with short memories.
>>68510365
Oh i guess we should just let the muslims blow (lel) some steam for a bit
Nothing to worry about
>>68510365
go prep your syrian bull Hans
>>68511745
So you think it's ok for them to bomb your country men? Who cares even if the West is wrong. Don't be a fucking traitor. It's us vs everyone. That's the way shit works. Pick a fucking side.
>>68513068
>with the intent to kill tyrants and criminals
I bet you support the Allied victory in ww2 too
>>68512630
You're literally defending acts of terrorism right now lad. Attack on true innocents. You're defending US-support of ISIS and other Terrorist groups, you're defending the literal death of 1.5+ million people, lots of innocents dead, families wiped out and torn apart. Did THEY commit these terror attacks?There's no excuse for this. None. There's explanations, but no excuses. Nothing justifies that.
>>68510365
"""""""innocent civilians"""""""
>>68511186
Alley oop!
>>68510660
>Europussies think they can fight even as they are getting rekt by minorities in their own countries.
LMAO
>support israel
>bomb the fuck out of ME
>muslims migrate to europe as a result
>"da jews be supporting 3rd world immigration!"
>>68513229
Have a cheeky poo in an undesignated street on me Sangay
>>68513229
WHERE IS THE LOO INDIA
Source on the 1,5 million? Besides that
>get killed by murrifats
>attack Europe, destroy germany
brilliant achmed, brilliant
>>68511745
>>68513195
will you turn your righteous anger on Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, and the other wealthy ME nations that happily fund salafi jihadism, to the detriment of other muslims?
>>68513229
>>68513158
Its not us vs them, it never was. You dragged all of europe into this, when all of europe said no to the Iraq war you didn't give a fuck, you invaded the country, killed the guy that was repressing your terrorist allies, all under the guise that they MIGHT have nukes. And what happened? No nukes, no nothing. And all you could say is sorry. Sorry for making the whole middle east hate us, sorry for destabilizing it, but at least we habe cheap oil now right?
>>68513259
hey Shlomo
Jews invented diversity
>>68512630
I just have to address one point you made
>terrorism is never defensible.
I always find this a tricky postulation since at face value it seems true - but when you think about it more it becomes more complicated. These acts are usually an act of desperation by either western deluded 2nd/3rd generation male immigrants or local recruits who have no work, no money and live in a country actively being shat on by others. I ask you: you see your cunt is a shithole, what possible thing can you do about it? What realistic alternatives do they have?
>>68511745
> German telling others to take Israel back.
>>68513755
>12 stars
>12 tribes of Israel
you're welcome
>>68510365
So that's why ISIS rapes and sells 10 year old boys from their own countries, to take revenge against the West, makes sense!
>>68513184
Completely. Your welcome by the way. Forget our entry into the war, without our shipping and industry your little island would be a place where Germans take their holidays.
>>68513893
>>68513540
>Its not us vs them, it never was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire
Learn some history, faggot.
Muzzies gonna muz. They have only been 'peaceful' since the last caliphate was smashed and dismantled. Now that they are getting the band back together, they are up to their old tricks.
>>68513540
Well there's no turning back now faggot. I had no control over that decision.
The worst thing you can do is join the liberal agenda and paint white people as collectively evil all over again. Then we'll be cucked for the next 70 years for another "muh holocaust".
This is about white survival and an impending civil war. Our governments are no longer on our side.
>>68514061
that would be 100x better than the kosher cuck country that exists now, Pedro.
>>68513540
He was murdering the shit out of people. You are dumb and know little about what was really going on.
>>68510365
>bomb middle east for centuries
>bomb
>centuries
>>68514193
>>68510365
>be Ahmed living in Germany
>collect welfare
>spend all day posting on 4Chan
>go to state sponsored leftist rallies
Feels good, doesn't it?
>>68510365
>draw completely fucked up borders to destabilize them even more
it's called being multicultural, you fucking bigot
>>68513229
Tell me one country that we didn't conquer beside China?
>>68514193
Yes of course Evil Sadam! He was truly bad for the middle east, just look at Iraq now, what a wonderful and united country it is! Oh wait.
>>68513802
BS graph, Abdul
Visit iraqbodycount.org for a real number.
>>68513378
>I couldn't design a flag so I just flipped Italy's the country
LMAO
>>68513323
t.Charlie Mohamad
>>68513195
When have I done that, you braindead fucking spastic? Point it out.
I'll gladly point out where you defended it:
>>stop thinking that people who have had enough of your shit and want to fight back are evil
>Implying the average western city has any say on who their government bombs
Most US citizens wouldn't understand all that's led up to this, but I can tell you now, we sure as fuck don't care about sandniggers after all their terrorism bullshit and don't care if their civs die now
>>68510365
Fuck off Ali
>>68510365
>>bomb middle east for centuries, kill 1.5 million innocent civilians
>be muslim
>attack europe for millenia
>>68510365
dude you are german you didnt rewrite anyone borders cause you got no empire, you just sucked UK and USAs dick during colonialism
>>68513814
>you see your cunt is a shithole, what possible thing can you do about it? What realistic alternatives do they have?
I don't know and I don't claim to know, but bombing peaceful non-muslims who were never a part in any of their problems? How does that help anyone except maybe get even more bombs on their cities in retaliation?
>>68510365
>comparing politics to religion
>2016
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
>>68514422
>Tell me which country isn't butt fucking you for that now
>>68510365
>move an entire peoples group to an area they do not belong to
You're talking about importing rapists, right?
>>68510744
They weren't killing each other. There were political executions from governments, but no full scale war until the US started pumping money into rebel groups for their own reasons
>>68514245
With hot air balloons and barells of gun powder, nothing prevents whitey from bombing peaceful muslims!
>>68511557
It was harmless until Salafi Jihadism.
This is islam.
<--
>>68515027
>>68510365
>Be middle eastern
>worship a child rapist
>rape and kill for shits and giggles
>behead non-believers and gays
>get bored and decide to go to europe for free shit
>drown in the Mediterranean
>WHY IS EUROPE SO EVIL AND WITHHOLDS GIBSMEDATS
>>68511745
This
It's karmic really. The US has been fucking in the ME for so long. CIA organising coups, arming rebels, invading countries.
>>68511983
>western!=usa
>not all Westerners
>>68510365
It's just too bad we didn't kill them all.
>>68510365
>bomb middle east for centuries
What?
>>68515131
Nice try mohammed.
>>68513195
Collateral vs. Purposeful targeting of ONLY civilians
Get fucked Fritz
>>68513420
Right now, they're being funded by oil, taxes, loot and Swiss bank accounts. It's a bit too late to stop unfunding them at this point, Murica.
>>68510365
They weren't kidding when they said Turks and Arabs were in Germany.
>>68514666
>not all Westerners
Hypocrites.
>>68510624
This
>>68510365
>we muslims shouldn't get abused for the actions of other muslims just because we keep tolerating it and do nothing about it
>can't you see the terrorist Muslims bombed you because you are tolerant and don't do anything about the actions of your rich politicians actions in the ME, IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
>>68514653
"fighting back" in this context refers to only one thing: these acts of terrorism. What the fuck else are they doing to "fight back"? Apparently "fighting back" now entails bombing innocent civilians. You fucking asshole.
>>68513229
We spent like 2000 years fighting ourselves
Then we got bored and fought everyone else
Then we fought each other for the new land
Then we had 2 of the biggest wars in history
We're just taking a breather mate
>>68515469
No, thats just germans for you...
Totally cucked by the "education" that they have recieved and eternally self harming from WW2.
>>68515596
Put on the thinking hat before posting pls
>>68510954
This
>>68515367
Oh yeah? What about the videos where the US-soldiers order an airstrike on people because they have a beard? Nothing, just an old man walking around, and you kill him because he has a beard. Sure is colteraral damage right?
>>68515762
>This
>>68510365
Enjoying you Arab cock quota Hans? Suck em for Mutti.
You're absolutely correct. You can't Fuck with people for years then act surprised when they attack you back
When you kick a bees hive don't be surprised when the bees come out
>>68510365
>implying Muslims haven't been trying to conquer Europe for 1000 years
Top cuck
>>68515873
So was every other empire. If we want to go into pre world war history, everyone's an asshole.
>>68515863
I don't think anyone's surprised when muslims blow themselves up.
What people are really mad about is how we let it happen. Yes, we're kicking the bees hive. Why don't we burn it?
>>68510808
>listen to pedophile
>think he's talking sense
>massacre people for 1400 years
>invade countless countries
>WHITE PEOPLE MADE ME DO THIS
>YOU DESERVE TERRORISM WHITEY
>>68515156
They were busy killing each other until we stick our nose in and gave them an enemy to unite against
>>68515367
I suppose that makes everything everything better, good intentions. You can do whatever you want because of good intentions. And I could say Saddam was trying to maintain order with those political executions and secret police.
>>68510365
Mahachmut, just keel over and die.
>>68513195
P.S. The blood of collateral innocent civilians is on the hand of Muslim nations because they purposefully store bombs, weaponry, and troops inside of the civilian population. They make warehouses and literally build neighborhoods around it so they can shout "OH ALLAH THEY ARE KILLING OUR CIVILIANS!"
Do you see ANY Western countries doing this bullshit?? We fucking build our bombs and weapons and jets and bases AWAY and SEPARATED from our civilians, because we fucking care about protecting them if shit goes down.
Muslim nations sacrifice their civilians. They literally put their innocents in the line if fire and cry foul. FUCK them. Death Cults have no place in humanity.
>>68515857
>yes yes, white people did this
>good goyim, tell yourself that you deserve this
>>68515963
Muslims have always been, are and will always remain assholes.
>>68516012
If we want to get all touchy about what happened, Islam wasn't terrorism until Murica. Salafi Jihadism, Islamic terrorism, was popularised when the US handed the Salafi Jihadism groups in Afghanistan weapons and aid to fight the Soviets, including Al Qaeda. Before that you won't find any instance of Islamic extremism.
>>68512431
>be European
>massacre thousands of Muslims in Crusades
>lol Muslims are such savages
>>68510365
>be durkadurka
>mercilessly kill and persecute non-Muslims for centuries
>countries in perpetual chaos and power struggles
>fairly recently, discover oil
>use oil influence and money to escalate murdering even further than ever before
>the west intervenes and stops us from murdering each other using literal chemical weapons and nuclear arms
>blame the west for every problem in the history of mankind because they occupied us for a few years to keep us from annihilating everything in the vicinity
Also:
>sell oil
>get butthurt when the west buys it
>be German
>make a thread expressing a logical and accurate depictions of mistakes in the sandbox
>get called Muslim
>get called cuck
B-b-but m-m-muh dejected conservative hugebox e-echo c-chamber
OP is based. Hate and violence only breads more of the same.
>inb4 raghead
>inb4 back2reddit
>inb4 muzzies can't peace
>>68516006
Because our idiots leaders and generals wont let us.
They just keep instigating the muzzies and they let us take the heat for It.
Either we go total war or go to the Fuck home. We are not the security force of the middle east
Why are they evil, /pol/?
>>68516187
Everyone's an asshole. We're talking about whether they're a dangerous asshole.
>>68510365
Bombs have been around for centuries?
>>68510365
>this flag
>>68510365
You have to go back
>>68510463
This
OP is ignoring thousands of years history.
Middle east has always and will always be a shithole.
We must contain Islam not import.
You are doing exactly what they want.
>>68516146
>>68514782
Me again but on my laptop instead.
>but bombing peaceful non-muslims who were never a part in any of their problems?
And here we see the crux other issue; the same issue with moderate muslims condoning and sometimes cooperating with terrorism like the family/friends protecting the mass murderer of the Paris attacks in Molenbeek for months BUT also the willfull ignorance and double standards we have to our own terrorism in the middle-east with needless invasions/drone striking of civilians. We are obviously not equivalents in this sense but it is merely to make a point. It is the approval and toleration of the majority and moderates that leads to these things happening; I am in part guilty too since I for example voted for an established liberal (VVD) party that supported the police mission in Afghanistan and etc. The thing is, their bombings and terror attacks are mostly strategic and with a goal - like I mentioned before they strive on recruits from the poor and unemployed from the MENA for most part and in this case we can see that they know what they are doing.
Case in point is Tunesia attack on tourists. At first glance a straight forward terrorist attack because they hate westerners right? Well it is obviously a part of it but the point was to scare of tourists from coming there and to destroy the Tunesian tourism based economy. Recently the tourism sector in Tunesia as dropped 4.5 million visitors/year to a lowly 750k/year. This led to massive unemployment and discomfort with the governance of their nation and who do they turn to for work...? Exactly.It's crazy since those organisations manage to provide solid salaries for disgusting jobs like making car bombs and shit but when you have nothing else to rely on some people will take that leap.
In essence, I am trying to bring some nuance. The shit the terrorists are doing are awful and I find them despicable, but moral outrage isn't going to stop it in the future. (1/2)
>>68516240
>breads
>>68516206
>Before that you won't find any instance of Islamic extremism.
Except, you know, the fucking Quran.
>>68516235
>be West
>shit I can't fight Soviets or nuclear holocaust
>lol guise I pay these dumb moslems to kill them for us
>pour millions of dollars into funding and training terrorists
>wtf why are there so many terrorists here
>>68511557
You COULDN'T care less. Jesus fuck I thought only gigantic fat American fucks were retarded enough to say shit like this
>>68510365
Reality of life: if you want to live (well) you have to do some bad things sometimes.
I really wish we could all just say, yes, we're selfish and do bad stuff sometimes but we don't say sorry for that.
>>68516255
They aren't evil, they are brainwashed.
>>68516271
Yes. They've been around for at least 500 years
>>68510365
islam was spread through sword you ficking sack of shit.
>>68516267
They're not dangerous to you, you're not facing demographic displacement by your own government. A shitskin would never understand.
>>68516227
>be Muslim
>exterminate the Christian population
>be Christian
>take back the Christian lands
>be Muslim
>bitch for all eternity about people daring to fight back
>>68510365
>be Muslim
>have entire ideology dictated by Saudis
>Saudis are huge fags
>wonder why everyone thinks you're a huge fag
>>68516373
Ayyy lmao. Phones right?
Fact is we wouldn't have those mess if we didn't follow nato policies in the balkans/north africa/middle east and that forced friendship with turkey.
inb4 O replies
>>68516353
Uh... the Barbary Wars happened for financial/political reasons like 99% of other wars. Europeens didn't want to pay them more to run trade routes through their region.
But of course the plebs doing the actual fighting thinks it's all about ideology or why else would they fight? Learn to politics, noob.
>cross-posting on /int/
I hate that we share half out userbase with /pol/
>>68516576
>be Saudi
>in love with America
>>68516235
>absolving your shit because they did it too
Hah, politics.
>>68516576
>USA Saudi's biggest ally
>lol it's all about ideology guise it's not about money at all
>>68514782
(2/2)
Anyhow this has become an incoherent rambling at this point but I needed to give the background. I am in favour of stopping the whole migration stream etc. but that isn't solving the whole issue and will not deter terrorists as they will find their way here anyway. In part the cultural clash is correct, their religion and culture didn't go through the process of enlightenment, nationalism, counter-nationalism, etc. They don't really see themselves as nationality/ethnicity but rather just general arab or muslim. This cultural difference is a whole discussion for another time but in the mean time we need finds ways to stablise the region. Pointlessly bombing the shit out of it isn't going to do much and is only going to pour more oil onto the fire. Those areas are chaotic breeding grounds of terrorists and we need to regain order if we ever want this shit to stop. What this exactly entails is up for debate too but we need to look outside of the box. Unorthodox alliances with either Russia or Bashar in Syria perhaps?
>>68516206
Oh yeah, because Egypt and North Africa have always been Muslim countries, yeah?
>carthage was muslim
>>68516576
>be usa
>support saudis
>support erdogan up until 2012, literally groom him for prime ministery
>shitpost about how islam is the devil
>>68516738
Saudis spread terrorism and the U.S. supports Saudis because they're fucking keks
>>68510365
>See flag
Nice try Mehmet
>>68511110
Spoken like a true German
>>68516374
But they weren't fundamentalists, were they? Like Christians not chopping adulterers heads off, they were starting to adopt a better stance on religion. But guess where all this fundamentalist shit came from?
>>68516614
>>68510683
I'm an Aries with a Gemini rising 9 inch cock and 6'2"... want to blow me?
>>68510365
Hello, Mohammed. Tell me honestly how good is German pussy?
>>68516457
I'm Chinese
I am facing demographic displacement. Singapore is 40% foreigners. We use them to mitigate our own low birth rate. I don't see why it's any of my damn business where other people live, I don't own the country.
>>68515854
Puh-lease. I'm sure there's more context to that, i.e.they had an incredibly high priority target and the man was in an area saturated with militants. Purposefully bombing KNOWINGLY innocent civilians isn't just immoral, it's a waste of military resources and money - anyone in the military will tell you the military doesn't do that shit. There's tons of regulations built against that and no one gives the order without ample reason. We end up spending BILLIONS to send out 5000 people on a aircraft carrier and sit in the ocean, only they are unable to drop bombs because civilians are too embedded with militants. If we were savage this wouldn't happen, but no, we BURN our money away so that we can ATTEMPT to wage war humanely against a bunch of fucking animals.
Goddamn Fritz you are a fucking bleeding heart cûck.
"western" is the most retard shit term and a clear sign that the one using it is a retarded muslim shit because he literally projects his hate on half of the fucking globe, furthermore the fucking "west" and "east" shit only works if you take europe as the center and how is the fucking center "east" or "west" when it's in the middle.
oh and
>be muhammed (piss be upon him)
>create moon cult around rape and slaughter in 700 a.d.
>be at war since 700 a.d. with everyone who is not muslim and believes in the holiness of some sand faggot
>2016 still at war with everyone who is not muslim and believes in the holiness of some sand faggot
>i swear the "west" made me blow up that airport
>>68516769
>Muslims believe St. Augustine was Muslim.
>>68516769
I don't see how that's relevant to what I said
>>68516829
It's almost like Saudi is rich in oil money and are willing to do business with USA despite being among the most radical Muslims in the world. It's almost as if the leaders don't actually care about Islam or terrorism and are only concerned with money and power.
HMMM NO I THINK THEY'RE JUST KEKS THAT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE LOL FUCKING MUDSLIMES AMIRITE GUISE?
>>68516055
You wanna talk about good intentions, see >>68516143
>>68516371
>but moral outrage isn't going to stop it in the future.
I'm actively aware of it and I'm not trying to appeal to emotion usually. It's just when people say things like
>the brussels bombings and paris attacks were justified because we've been destabilizing the middle east
They usually don't consider that the people who die in those attacks don't have anything to do with it. I feel like it stems from looking at things only on a global political scale and you can't just do that when it comes to stuff like this. They didn't nlow up brussels or part of brussels, they didn't blow up part of the EU, they bombed some people living in brussels who don't have shit to do with anything. Those are insanely pointless acts of terrorism fueled by hatred and hatred only, and to defend those by saying it's logical is entirely despicable.
I get the point you're making and I agree, there can be logical motivations behind terrorism, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
>>68517007
>I oppose generalisation when it's done on me
But I suppose all those towel heads are evil!
>>68517053
Don't you see the hypocrisy of shit like this
You're murdering to stop murder, and the results were horrible.
Remember what Nietzche said about staring into the abyss?
>>68516976
Chinese have so many children there is a legal limit. They are currently colonizing Africa, and already control large swathes of territory in Asia. We whites are a global minority with (((governments))) that hate us.
>>68517116
are you fucking retarded how is that even an answer? it's clear as day light that islam is and never will be compatible with the rest of the world because you literally have that stated in your stupid book.
>>68516654
This. The Barbary States have been raiding the coasts of Europe for centuries, if the European powers wanted it they could have stopped them from the very beginning.
The same applies for the Ottoman Empire or the Arabic/Berber Caliphates that invaded and conquered the Iberian peninsula.
>>68517224
>ending the lifes of of people who only desire is to kill non believers is bad
>if you dont kill people who want to kill you for ideological reasons they won't kill you
ok
>>68517042
Followers of Saudi-led religious institutions are still fucking retards. I'm trying to give you an out by saying how this is a recent development in Islamic practice, but you're freaking-out like a faggot so whatever.
>>68516424
>look we went around and actually asked 1.62 billion people lol
>yes this is all true because everyone knows that sample size is completely ok when you ask 1000 people in South-Sudan and apply their answers to all muslims
>>68516448
>comparing 300 years to 1000 years
>impyling berbers were religiously motivated
>>68510365
Voksverräter or a muslim.
Go away.
>>68517068
just as their innocent people are dying due to west's intervention. sure is bad, but who am i to judge?
In reguards to war.
Get in, win asap, get out.
Otherwise, it drags on, costs a fuck ton, more people die in the end and it fuels terrorist propaganda.
>>68517280
>be Jewish
>Old Testament says it's better to kill your wife than to let her be turned away from God
wait you guys hate Jews too I don't know where I'm going with this.
>>68510365
>be western
>endure 1400 years of Islamic aggression
>be told it is my fault
>thinks fighting back my be a good idea
>get called a nazi by faggots
>Implying germany bombing Islamic countrys
>Implying we are bombing countrys like Eritrea
>>68516206
No terrorism. Just conquest and genocide.
>>68517438
One terrible act does not cancel out another, especially not if the victims aren't even the people committing them.
You're saying it'd be ok for me to kill your dog if you happened to kill mine first. What does the dog have to do with anything?
>>68517558
omg but you are le westerner and deserve it kuffar
>>68517224
War is evil, dude. The only way war can not be evil is by looking at the intents and methodologies of the two sides fighting.
What are the intents of Islamic Extremists?
Do you think a worldwide caliphate with Sharia and beheading and forced conversion is desirable for the world?
War is evil, but Islam is literally abhorrent to a free world, man. War is a necessary tool to stop such a destructive cult of death and tyranny.
That's that.
>>68510365
Valid points.
But let's not pretend they're reaction is justified, reasonable or measured (chinese and indians went through this same shit and aren't blowing up western train stations).
Also, there are dirty hands (muslim and western) on both sides that got this ball rolling.
>>68510365
logged into upvote this
>>68517241
And why do you care so much about your race? I can understand culture but your genetics? You don't even know what white is. It's a vague collection of facial features and skin color.
>>68517592
If we let the west fall under islam, there will be NO PLACE FOR ANY REFUGEES to go EVER.
>>68510365
>>draw completely fucked up borders to destabilize them even more
Wait so they didn't have borders until Whites discovered them? What the fuck...
>>68517731
>>68517779
>>68517779
>why do you care about your race
>why do you care about the continuity from which you stem
le me being born in germany is only a coincidence right =D and not something that has continuity from the dawn of man to this very day, i should totaly not care about this
>>68517280
And how is it retarded
>those Muslims are retarded, it's not Westerners not all of us fought them
>all Muslims are madmen with bombs in their towels
>>68511110
I like it
>>68517506
>be Western
>carve up the remnants of the Ottoman Empire
>fuck up the borders all retarded
>destabilise whole region
>fun and train terrorists to fight Soviets
>lol guise we did nothing wrong
he's right you know.
We don't have to let the actions of ISIS slide, but we still have a responsibility to understand why this is happening
>>68517779
I came back from Ireland to germany and I didn't understand one word. Nobody speaks german, do you know that feels when you can't understand people in your own country?
>>68517630
>>68517558
>I don't know that Germany is in NATO and german troops fought in the Afghanistan war
>>68517406
Hah, and the Muslims are killing you because they think the west is trying to kill them. Look it up, it's true. Bin Laden's fatwa is a good one.
>>68517068
But the thing is, we as a silent majority are contributing to the status quo by being silent and cooperating with the estabilishment. They see us comfortably living of the backs of the shit done in their countries (in some cases true, like overthrowing governments in Iraq, Libya, etc.). But it isn't hatred that is the sole motivator I think, it's demonstrating their legitimacy as a powerful actor and uproaring European politics as well (in the hope we lead to chaos too). We still have loads of post-colonial contracts lingering about that exploit their natural resources without gaining much. On the other hand, that does NOT absolve them of their moral responsibility to act like normal human beings. Some of it may be either culture or religion and some parts of this Islam(ic culture) needs to be brought up for discussion and scrutiny and I hate that in our supposed free speech society we shy away from it at all costs.
>>68510954
this
but also islam is evil
>>68510365
>>Living in a western country
>>Work full time to pay my kids education and provide them with food
>>Never hurt anyone
>>Living for my family
>>Lost family in a terrorist attack
>>Literally lost everything I love
>>My neighbor think I deserve it.
>>68517578
That's Salafi Jihadism. It's the return to all that conquering establishing caliphate business with violence.
>>68518054
We had troops dying in Afghanistan trying to help, not like USA bombing the shit out countrys
