My professor gave us an assignment about how race is a social construction. "How is race a social construction, and why do scientists maintain that what most believe about race is not valid?"
should i bite the bullet or write in a nice demeanor what i believe. I got an B in the class right now
>>68473545
tell the truth that pol has teach you over the years. They are indoctrinating you right now.
>>68473545
man the fuck up
drop out
start your own business
become a millionaire
>>68473545
Write a well-cited paper in the appropriate format. Content is up to you. If you can't write it well one way, do it the other way.
Good luck.
>>68473796
SMALL LOAN OF A MILLION DOLLARS
>>68473689
my teacher is this fat little mexican who openly supports that socialist jew. Every lecture he talks about how corporations are buy politians
>literally in a sanders rally
>>68473545
I suggest you rethink your future profession
>>68474381
this is just for GE it is a must
>>68473545
I'd push back if I were you. I go to university and I know I do. Don't inject a lot of opinion and conjecture. Stick to facts and actual scientific research. Make a solid case. They can't really fail you if you do.
>>68474102
This. Support every argument. If I were you, I'd admit that race has both social and physical constructs.
>>68473545
Telling the truth will only get you a bad grade and a mad teacher. Sure it's cuck mentality but if you prefer to few moments of triumph as opposed to investing in your future it's not a good idea
You're fucked senpai
Lol what kind of nasty little urchin leaves their tampon in too long.
>>68474648
frig off with that shit
>>68473545
Well for starters everyone outside of Africa has neanderthal or denisovan DNA, making us a unique hybrid sub species. Niggers missed out on 200,000 years of neanderthal evolution and should be put in their own seperate sub species
>>68473545
It's not, how do Archeologists determine the race of bones?
>>68473545
What kind of university expects an undergraduate student to disprove the scientific community?
>>68473545
What is your major? If it is sociology, drop that shit. It is SJW infested just like gender studies.
Theres no use mate.
If they don't accept evolution and reality, then your paper wont change them.
Its like telling a fat person to put down the cake, they already know its bad but now they'll take it out on you
>>68474554
>>68474102
most of the sites I can find are suggesting that races don't exist or the genetic variation is negligible.. I mean it seems like too much work to find a nonbias source for a one paragraph answer so i might shoot from the hip
>>68474454
Bite the bullet. /pol/ despises a person who squandered opprotunity as much as /pol/ despises muslims.
>>68473545
Hear me out anon, you're paying a retarded amount of money for university, so that means do NOT fuck up your grades.
When you're in class stand up and call people out, show off facts, stand for truth and freedom, but when it comes time to do assignments, write like a communist.
The reason race is a social construct is because to determine race means formulating arbitrary lines among different peoples. Where does one race start, and another begin? It's subjective, and evidence for this subjectivity can be found even on /pol/. How many times have you seen people here argue that Italians, Irish, Slavs, etc. are not white and another anon respond that they are?
Keeping that in mind, there are genetic differences among groups of peoples (obviously); and different peoples are further from some groups of peoples than others.
So, while race can't be looked at in terms of one arbitrary group split from another, it can be in terms of a scale of genetic distance.
Also Ethnolinguistic groups provide for better comparison among peoples than racial group.
>>68474473
>>68473545
Push back. Man up. Don't let social pressures dictate moral norms.
I'm at university, majoring in physics and minoring in philosophy. It doesn't come up often in my physics courses but in philosophy we get pretty close to social justice issues quite often. Just last week I proposed that we might plausibly evaluate the moral status of certain cultural practices by considering their source from a marxist sociological perspective. If the cultural practices' economic basis is outdated or no longer applicable to modern times, then the practice can be abandoned. This was specifically within the context of a discussion regarding sexually repressive practices within the muslim faith.
I made this proposal in a classroom of 30 people.
>>68473545
Start off explaining why people may believe race is a social construct with cited and well researched then write the rest of the paper explaining why it's complete bullshit.
At the very least you won't get 0.
>>68474179
A million dollars for real estate in New York IS a small loan, you Fosters drinker.
>>68475066
>>68475042
this cuck mentalility is everything /pol/ has taught me. cognitive dissonance is a bitch
I think it might be more like race is a social construct is true if we are talking about like the difference between Canadians and Americans. But to say the white race is the same as the niggers is just silly
>race isnt a social construction because some drugs dont have any effect on black people while they work on white people (sickle cell anemia for example)
If you're going to tackle this your best bet is from the standpoint of marrow/stem cells since thats the only "authorized" racial science allowed.
You could take a stance of "we just don't know" if you go into the history of scientific racism and how its essentially banned.
>>68475179
mental gymnist
>>68475273
>marrow/stem cells
do you have any articles that I can read about
>>68475183
Getting shitty grades is not worth the brief euphoria of being right, if you aren't in a good university trying to get a worthwhile degree then you shouldn't be burning money in the first place.
>>68475273
nevermind i found some
>>68475383
No gymnastics required when you have perspective.
>>68473545
College is about challenging ideas.
Challenge them.
>>68475579
I actually called him out on this race issue in class before but didnt go that deep just stated that i disagreed and moved on
>>68473545
>>68473545
I'm sorry anon, I hope you're paying for that "education".
If its a required social sciences credit, you should just bite the bullet and get it done quickly. You don't want to waste any efforts on that shit.
>>68474898
>most of the sites I can find are suggesting that races don't exist or the genetic variation is negligible..
This is true though. Most of what people experience as "race" actually has to do with culture. The two are confounded because they're generally closely linked. People fall into cultural demographics largely based on their race and geography. Typically this means inheriting the culture, beliefs, religion, etc. of your parents and those nearby who are superficially like you.
Press hard enough and even /pol/ is capable of admitting that there's a difference between a black man and a nigger.
And remember, you can talk about a subject without taking sides. Your goal is to write an essay, not redpill the prof. That's a much more daunting task and you probably don't have the position of authority to even attempt it.
>>68473545
>scientists believe race is a social structure
That's not true.
>>68475579
This man is correct. You're paying for this shit, but he has the power to negate your investment. Rational choice is write the bullshit.
Consider it a debate exercise. You don't have to believe it, just be convincing in the argument.
Hell, you wanna be clever? Work in a bunch of deliberate logical fallacies to support your "case".
Explain in great detail how race isn't a social construct and Africans and other races are very different from each other and not just "skin deep"
>>68473545
>why do scientists maintain that what most believe about race is not valid?
"Probably because most people now believe race is a social construction, thanks to people like you, who are the ones advocating it."
>>68474898
If you don't like the game, change the rules.
Aren't otherwise miniscule differences in genetics/features in other animals still classified as different species? I think you could write something with that angle, positing at the end that there's enough difference between humans to classify them as different species.
I think a shot from the hip is ill-advised, but it's your show.
>>68475792
Go ham when you're in class, just make sure anything related to your grade is as leftist as possible because most university teachers are egomaniacs and will fail you out of spite for "wrongthink".
>>68475179
This
Lots of people have a million dollars, I have about a million in property and im still a poorfag
Not everyone can turn that million into eleven thousand million.
>>68473545
I'd talk about MHC haplotypes as a start. It's well known that each race has predominant distribution profiles of certain haplotypes. Furthermore, bone marrow transplants almost always require that the donor and receiver have the same racial background as a direct result of MHC compatibility.
The other way to address the disturbing ingress of social sciences into the life sciences is to,critique the 'studies' that say race has no biological basis. The vast majority of these studies are meta-analyses of gene profiles across races and they conclude that there's no set of genes that each race can call 'their own racial fingerprint.' While this is true, there is no 'black' or 'white' gene(s), there are prevailing genetic predispositions inherent in almost all racial populations.
Take for example, the sickle cell trait for Africana/blacks, cystic fibrosis in white/Caucasians, Tay-Sachs in Ashkenazi Jews, alcohol and lactose intolerance among Asians, etc.
Any two healthy human beings, regardless of race, are capable of making a child (assuming the pairing is male/female). Because most races maintain high fidelity and rarely intermix, the prevalence of mutations and genetic profiles for a given race inevitably compounds over thousands of years.
While culture is still a large part of the equation in terms of what defines someone's race, to say that it's a social construct in its entirety is akin to saying gender and sexuality have no basis in biology, or that someon's personality is completely independent of their neurochemistry and genetic background.
>>68473545
Take a tip from me. I am graduating with a 3.94 GPA and just got a full ride for a Masters degree:
Write the fucking liberal paper. I'm in economics, a field notoriously dominated by leftist rational constructivists. University is no longer a place of free speech, or critical thinking. It is regurgitating the latest memes. I can't tell you how many times I've done and reviewed the, "open the world borders for a one trillion dollar world GDP increase," paper for various professors. They eat it up. When they like you and what you write, you get an A.
Just bite the bullet, get a good GPA, and go to grad school on a full ride. Undergrad isn't the place to distinguish yourself as edgy, thoughtful, or insightful. You can do that in grad school (after you got your full ride of course).
>or write in a nice demeanor what i believe.
You want the ultimate red pill? It doesn't matter what you believe. Satisfy your professor. At the end of the day, is your 2 page essay really that important to you?
>>68473545
Race is a social construct but people are born gay. On some deep generic level homosexuals are just born different. Such a difference does not appear in regards to race. Race is made up.
>>68475579
>>68475950
Aussie shitposts, Canadian cuckposts.
Thus place never changes lol
>>68475383
facts do not lie
did you hear that term from cracked?
>>68475980
meant to add: Leave the word "race" out of it.
>>68474819
>jew hat
>>68476322
You really think it's worth wasting his (or mommy and daddy's) money to try to stick it to someone who will just give him and D and never think about it again?
>>68476284
>>68476322
t. High schooler
>>68473545
Do not argue with your professor. If your professor is a liberal cuck, they will give you an F even if your paper is well versed and well cited. They will say that you area a racist and hurt his feelings.
DO NOT DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE CLASS IS TEACHING. GET OUT OF THE LIBERAL TRAP OF A COLLEGE AND TEACH YOUR KIDS PROPER CONSERVATIVE VALUES. YOU WILL RUIN YOUR GPA AND JOB PROSPECTS IF YOU CONTINUE TO ARGUE WITH PROFESSORS ON GRADED MATERIAL.
Argue with the professor in office hours, don't argue on a graded assignment you retarded faggot.
All human is one race is indeed social construct.
Pict related.
>>68476284
>Adults, going to college, actually do this.
No wonder the degree is worthless.
>>68475167
IT KEEP DE DRIP OFF ME HED MON
NAICE FLAG
>>68473545
OP. What you should do it agree with the basic premise, but bring it to an absolutely absurd level where Poe's law would have to be recalled.
Just be as "progressive" as possible.
"A black man and a white woman create a human being. Racism will end when the government mandates that same 'race' (the social construct) couples are banned from procreation as it continues the harmful effects of 'race' as we understand it. True independence from such an archaic notion can only be achieved when all peoples are multi-'racial' (in the socially constructed manner as biological differences between 'races' are factually non-existant)"
I mean, just take /pol/ greentext interracial breeding ground memes and make them a reality. Out cuck your professor at his own game. You're not going to change his mind with your MUH INDOCTRINATION autismo write up so you might as well have a little fun with it and get an A in the class.
>>68475841
>>68473545
>>68476284
This, one butthurt lost mexicant isn't anything to throw your life over. Pick and choose your fights don't dive in like a suicide bomber.
>>68473545
Unless you have the skill to write a professional top tier level paper with undeniable evidence and just have everything perfect then dont bother triggering her. Its not worth having her downgrade you on every future assignment just to prove a small point. Sucks but welcome to the current year, your future and education is more important. Make up for it later by sneaking some Trump propaganda on her classroom door or something
>>68474184
We don't care you fucking faggot.
You came here for an answer and we gave it to you.
Either take our advice or fuck off back to r9k you fucking queer-ass attention whore.
>>68476861
I like this
Skincolor
hair
bonestructure
eyecolor
DNA
Social construct indeed.
>>68473545
Easy. It's done by redefining words. I guess it depends exactly how the assignment was worded.
Does this kind of stuff go on the record, that someone will hold it over your head the way they do when they find stuff from decades ago where students advocate population control? Maybe include a disclaimer that you're towing the line for grades.
What class is this for? It sounds like utter pollacks. I would write the truth about the subject but I'm an edge lord like that.
>>68476716
>be a cuck because he will mark it wrong if you disagree
Nice job cuck
If he fails you for DOING WHAT HE ASKED then he is the failure, you can report it. You are paying for the course, you deserve to be treated fairly.
>>68476500
When academic integrity and freedom of speech is at stake? Yes absolutely. We aren't talking about getting into a needless argument with sjws we are talking about falsifying your own opinions to please someone that is spreading blatant lies for a political agenda so your brownie points get you a B instead of a C. Yes, it is worth the it, if he flunks OP, op can sue school, citing political discrimination.
Seriously cuckada, why spend your money and time at a place where you fear to express your opinion for making a valid counter argument? Your attitude us the primary reason academic integrity in the West is in the shitter...
You can expertly do it in a way that 1
) presents your beliefs in a rational and scientific way
2) mocks their non-science without them realizing it
3) keeps you getting a good grade
it's going to take skill, but here's how you do it. Start by making the premise that race is a social construct. Define race. Define social construct.
Now, this is key: Make the thesis that while there are distinct genetic groups of homo sapiens, they are not 'races'.
According to society, there are these main races: blacks, whites, asians, native americans and brown people
What you want to show is that THESE groups defined as races by society (black whites, asians, native americans and brown people) are social constructs. You will do this by showing that there are a lot more genetic differenced groups than these silly 'made up' races. You will show that the varied genetic differenced groups are NOT divided into societys idea of the races: blacks, whites, asians, native americans and brown people
1) Show the science that shows biological differences between genetic groups. Here's a map of the main genetic haplogroups in the world.
Im going to show the illustrations you can use by adding more posts.
continued
>>68477077
But I will say college is utter faggotry that's more about regurgitating answers they want and working the system than any sort of truth or knowledge.
So maybe just Frank Underwood it because ultimately who gives a fuck?
>>68476798
Because nothing that happens in class matters except the grade.
Don't get me wrong, if you don't learn critical thinking skills then you're just fucking yourself over, but the actual classroom politics? Fucking kindergarden. Meaningless.
I have two final bids in front of me right now. One of them's a shitskin. Guess who's getting the contract? That's when it matters. Not some fucking bullshit contest with your prof about who believes what.
>>68476861
do this
Suck it up Shirley. You're in university not grade school. Cite some paper / research by your professor. Tell him how much you love his 'work,' ask for internships then worry about your Boss.
>>68473545
Give that little Mexican commie supporter a link to this channel and this video.
Get crime stats from all around the globe.
Tell him, "Face it Mexifaggot, Niggers commit more crime everywhere."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EiFoA78ADc
>>68477242
2. as an example, show how sickle cell anemia is tied to sub saharan genetic groups. Map of sickle cell anemia genetics is at left.
(always be talking about genetic groups, and avoid the word 'races'.)
continued
>>68473545
Tell the truth you fucking cuck
>>68477330
Poe's Law doesn't just work on a website.
Congratulations on contributing to the destruction of intellectual dignity and reducing the overall intelligence of everyone.
>>68473545
The word "race" is open to interpretation. It can mean people from a specific country.
>>68473545
You should always be honest. If something isn't an incontrovertible fact, such as a mathematic tautology, people shouldn't ever pose such leading and presumptuous questions.
>>68476647
Whatever kiwi
>>68476798
Exactly. That's why you go to grad school m8. Only 11% of the US population has a master's degree compared to 30% with bachelors. And, on average, people with a master's degree can demand a much higher salary when compared to Kimberly the bachelors in psychology.
Undergrad is a big waste of time, but if you take it seriously and get into a good program you're set for life. I'm focusing on applied economics and econometrics and I'm already working in my field. I'm 99% confident about my future.
>>68476989
Bernie 2016 bb
>>68477462
show how homo sapiens migrated out of africa, and genetically changed. Show how genetic groups that migrated north, mated with neanderthals, and that no sub saharan genetic group has neanderthal DNA.
>>68473545
I think what your professor is asking is "how is race perceived as a social construction?", because prejudices inform a lot about social interactions between people from different cultures at first.
>>68477748
Show how the genetic group map at left, correlates to the migration map in my previous post, showing that genetic groups evolved (use this word, only religious fundies don't believe in evolution) according to migration and geographic area.
>>68473545
I would type an anonymous note that says something like:
There can be no "conversation" about race in our country today, because if one disagrees with the current Leftist narrative, they can lose their jobs and even be expelled for racism. Simply thinking and expressing ideas is enough to cost someone a career lifetime of potential happiness. Assignments like yours are insulting. You have a captive audience that cannot express anything controversial, and you force us to regurgitate your point of view.
As with the case James Watson, the Nobel Winning Laureate who discovered DNA is a life-long expert on Genetics, any person can be destroyed for voicing opinions on race and genetics that are not "politically correct." Professors like you make me feel like the America I believed in are dead. And this probably suits you just fine. You are beneath contempt, and I have no doubt that one day you will reap the anger that simmers unreleased in the hearts and minds of so many. Fuck you.
>>68475042
what is this?
>>68477529
Indeed, a great deal rides on the outcome of this little spat between an undergrad and his prof.
>>68473545
Race really is a social construct. It is one of many arbitrary ways to classify what is ultimately just genetic patterns/variants classified into "groups". You can group genetics in a large variety of ways, from this variant at this location in the genome to any other. The reason "race" exists is because the human trait of skin color is easily externally observable. Skin color is not the singular genetic distinction that exists in what we call "race" but reflects a large subset of genetic variations, both visible and not. Ultimately every individual's genome is unique and experiences different environmental factors which may make section X or Y of their genome active/passive. While patterns in genome exist and can represent statistical differences in behavior/ability, it is important to remember that at an individual level those patterns do not necessarily take effort.
>>68477765
No his following questions are assuming you believe that race is a social construct and how it affects different groups
>>68477934
Show that skin color is tied to...not the social construct of asian, white, black, etc...but to genetic group.
>>68478010
THIS FUCKING THIS
what we perceive as race is really just a classification of THE SAME EXACT goddamn organism by color.
Great race is an artificial social construct. Now there's no such thing as African Americans, so no reparations or affirmative action. No American Indians, so no casinos and reservations. No Arab Americans so we can shut down the DHS and save a trillion.
Thank God, no more white guilt or white man's burden. Now I can beat a person because their skin is too dark and it can't be a hate crime.
>>68473545
>>68473545
>"How is race a social construction, and why do scientists maintain that what most believe about race is not valid?"
How is it not valid? Race is only a social construct in that it oversimplifies the true differences there are between us. It's social and career suicide for a scientist to truly explain how we're actually different subspecies of human that evolved separately over time just as other animals do when they adapt to different global conditions. The real sad thing is that people truly believe we're all equal when just walking down a street you can see the vast differences between us all.
>>68478010
Isnt it hypocritical that sociologists like to group everything together but when it comes to race they would never dare to group a certain group of people
>>68474898
>>68475914
This op
If you can't find any evidence for your argument, maybe it's time to change your argument.
>>68478065
assuming you're OP
race completely is a social construct, it's just separating humans into group by color.
>>68477989
>implying I didn't challenge my professors on every single issue I felt morally obligated to do so
You're a spineless cuck. Just admit it.
>>68478176
THE SAME EXACT goddamn organism
If we are all the same, why are organ transplants more successful when the people belong to the same "made up race"? Why are skulls shaped differently? Why are brain sizes different? Why are test scores so different along racial lines - in every country on the entire fucking Earth, even when comparing the same exact household income levels?
You have no answers. You are just a Leftists, and you deserve so much worse than death. So just sit tight, and wait for history to unfold.
>>68478367
Youre fucking retarded
>>68478328
Not inherently no. Just because you want to group up one thing according to qualities and characteristics with others doesn't mean you must support doing such according to other criteria or in all other cases.
>>68473545
Bite the bullet. Do it.
But don't go full /pol/. Never go full /pol/.
>>68478256
well that's fucking retarded.
just because people invented race, that doesn't mean people can't act violently on the ideas of racism.
>>68473545
how can you die from using tampons?
>>68478543
fucking how
>>68478687
you should try it
post results
>>68478531
Read The Mismeasure of Man. Unless reading is only for leftists of course.
>>68478084
Show that there are so many specific and identifiable genetic groups, that skin color alone is not enough of an indicator of a genetic group. For example, aboriginal australians and africans can both be 'black', (and separated by society's construct of race into one group.) But that aboriginal australians and africans are two very different genetic groups even though they have the same skin color.
Explain homo sapiens, denisovan, neanderthals and heidelbergensis, which were all different species of humans.
Show that Aboriginals have denisovan DNA, and sub saharan africans have heidelbergensis DNA, and northern genetic groups have neanderthal DNA by mixing with these different species of humans that the other groups didn't mix with.
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110922/full/news.2011.551.html
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/denisovan/
Show that native americans are merely mutated asians.
In conclusion, state that the genetic groups of homo sapiens are too complicated to be defined by society's construct of race: blacks, whites, yells, reds and browns.
>>68475914
>Press hard enough and even /pol/ is capable of admitting that there's a difference between a black man and a nigger.
They did it earlier, though. A thread where they admitted a gay is different from a faggot, a black man is different form a nigger and some other things.
Flip it around on them.
Tell your teacher, "hey it sounds like you're a racist trying erase white guilt. By dismissing race as something imaginary." Then your one step away from rallying SJWs. Next thing you know you'll have a safe space from actual schoolwork.
>>68475195
nationality =/= race
pls get an education
>>68477242
>>68477462
>>68477748
>>68477934
>>68477934
This
>>68478176
>by color.
There are 10's, perhaps 100's, of physiological differences between whites and blacks for example. Bone density, muscle composition, skull shape, brain size, blood types, hip widths, disease vulnerabilities
>>68478531
humans are so strikingly similar from race to race, but YES OF COURSE there are differences, you twat.
but you still look at it and go, "oh, hey, huh, a human, how about that"
>>68478687
Septic shock.
>>68479018
you're all being so fucking obtuse about this
humans are humans goddamnit
>>68473545
Easy, explain some of the ways in which the popular perception of what constitutes a "race" is are indeed social constructs, and they go into detail on how race is not a social construct.
Talk about the divide between anthropologists and geneticists and biologists on the issue and do the best you can to objectively present the cases for both. Conclude by stating that it's some aspects of race are social constructs, some are not, and that it's a controversial issue that divides the scientific community.
By that way that writing prompt is complete garbage and the professor should be ashamed of himself or herself.
Here are some helpful links:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/05/02/human-races-may-have-biological-meaning-but-races-mean-nothing-about-humanity/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/05/richard-dawkins-accepts-the-usefulness-of-race/
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/331/6016/392.summary
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110905/full/news.2011.518.html
>>68479242
Yes but there are important genetic differences to be aware of.
>>68474819
> It's not, how do Archeologists determine the race of bones?
Race of bones? These are antiquated (old) *anthropological* classifications.
Race is a social construct. You need to refer to sociology.
>>68479242
And dogs are dogs.
Doesn't mean you'll see SEAL team 6 running around with attack Chihuahuas.
>>68473545
OP: Battle back with pure science and statistics, no opinion
> Win the Day
>>68473545
Suck it up and write the paper. If you want to be edgy go with an anthropological approach and that Homo sapiens experience a wide range of biological and environmental differences that changed how the developed. Examine it through a mainstream scientific approach. Race doesn't matter, species and other groupings do.
Now /Pol/ can't be racist. Because race doesn't even exist. It's just a social construct.
The white guilt is finally gone!
>>68476861
"There is no evidence to support the idea that racial differences between humans ever existed. Perception of genetic differences between people are simply products of a racist imagination. The, uh, so called WHITE MAN has been pushing the idea of biological differences between people of different geographical origins in order to subjugate the, uh, so called BLACK MAN for centuries."
-goes on to explain that racist police brutality is a result of jealousy of the sexual desirability of black men to white women-
>>68479242
>humans are humans goddamnit
you are the one who is shockingly obtuse.
>>68479346
we're not here to debate what the differences rae genetically, genes are prone to random outliers anyway.
we're here to talk about the fact that race really is a social construct.
we feed into this system of naming and judging and classification and treat people VERY fucking differently for it.
>Are human beings different?
yes.
>Are they distinct enough to be part of another race?
No.
>does it even matter?
Fucking no.
>>68478367
that "colour" as you put it is founded upon biological basis, i.e. genes, adaptations, evolution
ergo race is a biological concept
hence you're retarded
>>68473796
i did anon, i did.
Feels like shit to rely on my parents for a while but i will thrive eventually
>>68473545
OP, ask him why nigger pre-frontal cortices are inferior to caucasoids(not to say white)
"muh social construct"
>>68473545
Dog breeds are a social construct,all dog breeds are exactly the same and you only perceive them as different because of the ingrained systematic racism within white society,and because of that systematic oppression dogs like pugs are held back from reaching there full potential as Victorian bulldogs
>>68473545
Just write what they want to hear. Some shitty gen ed class isn't worth the effort.
>>68477036
Do your research OP, either you fail with a pretty sweet essay or suck his dick dry.
ITT: a lotta fuckin' racists
Write is the way she wants it then make all your objections verbal. That way if she fucks with you you can ask for your paper to be moderated. They cant moderate your verbal comments.
>>68479823
This for sure, this
>>68479520
>>68476284
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>>68476284
I ended up writing why it is a social construct bs and then the last two sentences I wrote that it is a controversial subject that if it scientists do ever make the distinction, it will become a matter of moral inequality and about stemcell/bone marrow
>>68479996
im a cuck but now i will be an A student cuck
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/12/does-race-exist-does-culture/
My favourite argument for dealing with shitlin rave denialism
>>68479823
if people were fucking choking chihuahuas for being chihuahuas, I think someone would have something to say about that.
>>68479727
Humans have differences in the race like cats and dogs, only humans are too scared to be offense to point this out
>>68475914
\thread
>>68473545
Hit that bitch with every statistic under the sun
>>68480176
In the show dog world, Rhodesian Ridgebacks are often culled if they lack the distinctive ridge down their spine (which, by the way, is a genetic defect and typically indicative of health issues when the dog is older)
>>68479346
> Yes but there are important genetic differences to be aware of.
There are no important genetic differences.
>>68479550
> Now /Pol/ can't be racist. Because race doesn't even exist. It's just a social construct.
> The white guilt is finally gone!
Race is not studied in anthropology. It is a social construct, and yes you can be racist.
>>68479679
>we're not here to debate what the differences rae genetically
>we're here to talk about the fact that race really is a social construct
The genetic differences between group are what make it possible to segment the human population into separate races
>>68479892
your definition of racist appears to be "believing that the concept of race has biological validity". that's racialist, not racist. of course the leftist meme term for racialism is "scientific racism".
>>68473545
'Race', scientific race between humans doesn't exist
When a person says 'Race' is the way he refers to the slight genetic variations between different groups of people around the earth
This 'slight' variations make tremendous physical and intellectual differences of course, so he is right
>>68479727
>>68480261
didn't mean to reply to you, pajeet
>>68479679
People like you literally need to be shot because you're wrong and your reasoning actually, physically hurts people, regardless of how moral you think you are.
https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/3008240/Fullwiley_DNAWitnessRace.pdf?sequence=1
>>68473545
"how race is a social construction"
by: anon
it isnt.
source: all science of the human body, ever.
>ill take my A now
>>68480176
your pathetic emotional argument has nothing to do with whether or not race is a valid biological concept. your argument seems to boil down to "race might be real, but if people might potentially use that fact to negatively discriminate we should completely deny reality and claim it's a 'social construct' ". that attitude is an affront to science, which should be based upon dispassionate truth seeking.
>>68480136
> http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/12/does-race-exist-does-culture/
> My favourite argument for dealing with shitlin rave denialism
Race exists as a social construct, idiot. There isn't anything called "race" in genetics.
>>68477592
No it can't.
>>68480333
so does that make it right? to set someone aside as a second-class citizen at BEST right off the bat because of the color they are?
the idea here is that yes, we are different, but we should treat people like individuals based on a much higher number of traits than the nationality they happen to be.
what if you were a ridgeback but you just didn't quite fit what someone else thought was right, so they culled you for it?
>>68474898
Go right to the scientific sources.
The evidence exists but you won't heart it talked about.
Race specific medicine, haplogroups, IQ studies, different characteristics beyond skin colour (there are many), forensic anthropology, pure theory of evolution without obfuscations such as subspecies, twin studies with adopted children.
If you pull your thumb out of your arse and actually go for it rather than being a lazy fuck looking to be spoon fed then you can bury him in evidence because the real world is the real world.
Good luck.
>>68478983
Underrated post.
>>68480640
It exists as a social construct to explain for biological differences.
It's like saying that colour doesn't exist because light waves aren't inherently coloured
>>68480404
> The genetic differences between group are what make it possible to segment the human population into separate races
The "groups" you speak of are also social constructs.
>>68478176
You have to die as soon as possible.
>>68477592
Go kill yourselglf
>>68480082
If you write a grade A+ paper but the teacher fails it on ideological ground you can take it higher up. Don't be a cuck and stand your ground.
Just be sure to make it untouchable.
>>68480628
it's not the fact that "races exist" that I'm trying to argue,
it's that the system of treating people based on preconceptions about their race is wrong,
and that's based on a construct.
>>68478983
That won't actually work
SJW's knowledge and logic changes all the time depending on who's side they think they're on
They'll rationalize to themselves somehow that you're wrong because they desperately want people to think everyone's the same. Later, in a different argument, they'll try to rationalize how whites actually do exist as a race.
It all depends on whether or not it attacks white people or disadvantages them somehow.
>>68479242
Some humans are more human than others.
>>68481286
this is pretty spot on
>>68481141
Asking people to ignore all preconceived knowledge and trends they have ever internalised and to treat literally every individual as a blank slate is impossible.
>>68481325
but we have all been where those others are now, somewhere further down the line.
>>68473545
if race is a social construct, then do varieties of species truly exist? aren't niggers a variety of human? for that matter, don't varying breeds/varieties of dogs have unique characteristics? some dogs are more intelligent than others. by the standards of "sociology," is it wrong to say that a labrador has an IQ lower than a jack russell? is saying that a labrador is different from a jack russell merely a "social construct"?
>>68481024
Social construct are kike bullshit to distract your from what's real and isn't. Race exists. What we perrcieve it as may be a human construction but that doesn't negate the thing it is attempting to describe.
Just because the colour orange is a human perception doesn't mean there is no such thing as orange or that the wavelength of light 590–620 nm is not it.
>>68481397
just give everyone small doses of LSD like once a year!
I'm telling you, man, if the government worked like this, we'd all be in a way better place...at least for one day a year hahaha
>>68480791
>so does that make it right? to set someone aside as a second-class citizen at BEST right off the bat because of the color they are?
you're vastly oversimplifying it, but fundamentally this is in-group preference. you could argue that this in-group preference confers an ecological advantage, providing greater group cohesion, more competitive populations, etc. ergo it is human nature.
you're welcome to discard your in-group preference, but don't expect it to happen in mutuality. this is a good model for what is unfortunately happening in the west.
>>68481024
>The "groups" you speak of are also social constructs
No, they absolutely are not.
See the image in >>68479641 which maps the average genetic variability between people from different population groups. Note that all Africans are clustered together, all Europeans are clustered together, all South Indians are clustered together (but relatively close to European groups) and all East Asians are clustered together.
It's quite plain to see that each of these four groups constitutes a "race" of people (though arguably Europeans and South Asians could be considered to be the same race), and that there are various sub-races or ethnicities within these races. The evidence is stark and proof positive that race is real, and is a biological construct, and is not purely a social construct.
On the other hand, some of the ways in which race is popularly perceived (grouping simply by skin color and not by genetics) are a "social construct" which closely but imperfectly corresponds to the actual biological/genetic groupings of races.
>>68480791
Oh I agree with you completely - too often we forget that sterotypes are shortcuts in lieu of more accurate information about an individual, not a replacement for knowledge of the individual themselves.
I just wanted to add a sad dog anecdote.
>>68481590
and I think this kind of nicely puts why I think everyone ITT is just trying to justify their racism as being "genetically advantaged" and not wanting to let go of that precious idea haha
>>68480990
> It exists as a social construct to explain for biological differences.
That's what you'd like to believe. Race itself implies that people of other races treat others differently than their own.
(Sociologically speaking)
Not necessarily racism either.
>>68476284
>full ride for a master's degree
either you're in a specialized program/field in which there are no phds, or someone is footing your bill. i've never heard of "scholarships" for a master's degree.
the costs of phd programs are usually covered in exchange for employment in the department. again, i've never encountered a master's degree that was 100% covered by a department or given a full scholarship.
(i've taught in academia, at a university, for the past 8 years.)
>>68473545
just bite the bullet and pander for an easy A desu
remember its all bullshit though
>>68481782
i think that's a gross misinterpretation and that you should actually do some reading on the matter. people develop racial preferences at an incredibly young age independent of the beliefs of their parents.
>>68481821
but it heavily informs racism, which as a social construct, has FUCKED A LOT OF SHIT UP.
I know it seems like splitting hairs, but I don't think it's unreasonable to be of the persuasion that "race" is fine but "racism" is wrong.
>>68481782
Evolution means that every species is adapted to their environment. Africans are very good at living in Africa. It just so happens that the best way to live in Europe is civilisation. And it just so happens that that makes Europeans and other peoples who have done similar more competitive worldwide too.
When we talk of human achievement we're not talking about mud huts and wooden spears.
the fact that races exist is not a social construct, but the ideology behind systematic racism is
>>68481635
Not going to even argue with you anymore. Clearly all anthropologists are libtards, feel free to collect your Nobel prize at your earliest convenience.
>>68481995
Mother nature is a bloodthirsty bitch, who favours bloodthirsty bitches. Trying to go against this will see you erased by her favoured children.
>>68482069
but those were pivotal moments of human achievement! lol
>>68481141
>it's not the fact that "races exist" that I'm trying to argue,
>it's that the system of treating people based on preconceptions about their race is wrong,
>and that's based on a construct.
that's a moral or ethical argument that has nothing to do with the question of whether or not the concept of race is valid from a biological point of view. you are also backtracking since some of the claims that you've made in this thread are:
>>68478367
>race completely is a social construct, it's just separating humans into group by color.
(false, it's grouping them based on genetic composition which may or may not include genes that affect skin color)
>>68478658
>people invented race,
(false, nature did)
>>68482228
this is the most racist shit I've ever read
>>68473545
I wrote one on how and why it's not.
I wrote a paper on species, sub species and how in popular culture political correctness is fascism disguised as manners.
If you do write something opposite what the teacher is wanting, be ready to write something really fucking good and a good read.
If you do, they'll respect you.
If you don't, you'll get bitch slapped hard.
>>68481995
I don't agree with race or racism.
>>68482069
the species didn't adapt to live in their environment (that is lamarckianism). primates didn't evolve to live in trees; it just so happens that mutations occurred that made it effective to reside in trees.
the species acquired random traits that just so happened to correlate to the environment.
Say it's both a social construct and there are biological differences and avoid IQ and you'll be fine.
>>68482355
>the species didn't adapt to live in their environment
yes they fucking did. This is the theory of evolution paragraph one.
>>68473545
Do whatever it takes to get an A op. You won't benefit from trying to counter her, you won't change her mind, you'll do fuck all good for yourself. Get good grades, get a good job, then shit on her after your making bank.
>>68476284
>>68482203
Most anthropologists are indeed libtards. They base their ideas on race on what is popularly known as "Lewontin's Fallacy", which has been discredited for decades.
It's only worth listening to anthropologists who take genetics into account. Otherwise Biologists are who should be listened to. Whether or not race exists is a question of genetics, a subject which most anthropologists are not well versed in. Also, most Anthropology departments within universities are highly ideological.
>>68482236
If you're grouping people by "race" then you aren't studying anthropology.
If you aren't studying anthropology and you are grouping people then you're clearly a white faggot who got fucked in the ass by a bbc. Stop projecting.
>>68482412
congratulations, you're arguing at cross purposes with everybody else.
>>68473545
race is a social construct the same way color is.
>>68473545
Write about how everyone actually has the same skin color and the idea that blacks have darker skin than whites is a socially constructed myth.
>>68482203
They actually are. I have taken Anthro courses at my Uni (top 10 in the world) with highly respected anthropologists and they literally parrot Lewontin's study as if it was the bible. Read The Nature of Race by John Fuerst for a pretty serious, scientific dismantling of their bullshit.
And let's not even get into Lewontin's credentials in general. Read his and Levins' propositions on science and anti-science, then come back and tell me you trust them.
If your taking sociology or some other useless shit you already failed at life and you should Just end it
>>68473545
What scientists? When people tell you that scientists say race is a social thing ask for peer reviewed research articles in respected scientific journals. Scientists stay as far away from this as they can because saying the truth would ruin them for "bigotry".
>>68473545
"Race is a social construct in the sense that it is a cog in the fear machine made by our galactic cat overlords many years ago when they crafted our existence in this cosmos, made to scare us into submission."
>>68482454
give me an exact citation (page number, chapter) in 'on the origin of species.'
(don't forget, the first chapter is about human agency affecting evolution. the rest of the book is about the randomness within nature.)
>>68482599
Honestly I could care less what almost all anthropologists have to say on the matter. It's a question for Biologists and Geneticists. Modern Anthropology is largely a joke.
>>68473545
>>68483028
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
>In the mid-19th century, Charles Darwin formulated the scientific theory of evolution by natural selection, published in his book On the Origin of Species (1859). Evolution by natural selection is a process demonstrated by the observation that more offspring are produced than can possibly survive, along with three facts about populations: 1) traits vary among individuals with respect to morphology, physiology, and behaviour (phenotypic variation), 2) different traits confer different rates of survival and reproduction (differential fitness), and 3) traits can be passed from generation to generation (heritability of fitness).[19] Thus, in successive generations members of a population are replaced by progeny of parents better adapted to survive and reproduce in the biophysical environment in which natural selection takes place.
Pay particular attention:
>ration to generation (heritability of fitness).[19] Thus, in successive generations members of a population are replaced by progeny of parents better adapted to survive and reproduce in the biophysical environment in which natural selection takes place.
>>68474179
While a million dollars may be enough to buy a new lawn mower to ride around town in Australia, it's a relatively small amount of money in American real estate.
If OP is still around, you might find this useful: http://humanbiologicaldiversity.com/
>>68482527
You can genetically classify people by "races" but it does not alter what we understand by "race" as a social construct.
This is why anthropologists stick to Lewontin.
>>68483196
and you've just substantiated my point.
now since you probably haven't read 'on the origin of species,' go back to google and find more info on the mechanism of evolution. (it's random.)
>>68477242
ABSOLUTLEY SPECTACULAR
>>68473545
If you dont learn to fight now you will be a pushover your whole life. I did, and im a much better and stronger man for it.
The professor failed me. So i went to the dean. He doesnt teach at sdsu anymore tee hee.
>>68483059
OH YEAH? then why can they read, motherfucker?
>>68483330
>http://humanbiologicaldiversity.com/
New to HBD? Requisite materials for novices:
Ready to take the red pill?
>kek
>>68483404
>and you've just substantiated my point.
Oh really? I would love for you to tell me how exactly species are not selected for best fitness to survive in their environment.
Obviously fish are not adapted to live in the sea and can survive on land just fine. It's blindingly obvious.
>>68483330
New to HBD? Requisite materials for novices:
Ready to take the red pill?
>kek
>>68483468
i go to a pretty liberal school dean is proabbly blue pilled as fuck
>>68473545
Do both sides of the argument, the strongest of both, how will he mark you down by saying that the arguments exist and you know them, just say you don't fall on either side but are more inclined to believe which ever one is most controversial to be because science has historically been right when it has been supressed.
>>68481929
Quick question from a student, how important is the GRE score?
>>68483359
>You can genetically classify people by "races" but it does not alter what we understand by "race" as a social construct.
I agree that the common perception of what constitutes a person's "race" is partially socially constructed. The claim that "race is purely a social construct" is completely false. That claim that there are socially constructed ideas about race is true, but not a very useful statement because the social constructs in general closely align with the biological reality.
>This is why anthropologists stick to Lewontin.
That's why anthropoligists have not credibility. Lewontin was wrong. "Sticking to Lewontin" is sticking to a belief that has been proven false.
>>68483359
This is addressed in John Fuerst's The Nature of Race as well. Just because the social usage of race doesn't fit the biological reality 100% of the time doesn't mean it's not a biologically valid and real concept or a socially valid and real one. Anthropologists just parrot bullshit about "the Real" and "the real" but ultimately race is a valid social and a biological concept.
>>68477242
>>68477462
>>68477748
>>68477934
>>68478084
>>68478902
absolutely devious
>>68483585
race isn't a social construct, it's a perfectly reasonable explanation for exactly why some people are second, third, fourth, and hell, even fifth class citizens. they won't even show them in those terrible commercials. hooray for racism (the separation of HUMANS by race)!
>>68473545
Consider this claim:
>"all black people + you" constitutes a race.
I can provide tons of evidence of how your race is different from mine: lower avarage IQ, higher crime rates, etc. Does this mean your race "all black people + you" can be said to objectivly exist? The difference is real and measurable, does that mean your race is too?
Society had already decided on the races were before they set out to "prove" them with science. The science is real, but the races are social constructs.
So glad I didn't go to a miseducation center. I implore you to spread the truth the people in your class.
>>68483585
>>68483787
whoops did not mean to reply to you
>>68475140
you could just point out that stoning someone to death for adultery is fucked up
But since it's college you have to go through a lot of hoops to state the obvious I guess
>>68483569
read the fucking book you lazy assclown.
the mutations are random, and it is completely random that a mutation emerges that is the "right fit" with the environment. if it works (meaning, if the variety survives and thrives with the random mutation), then the variety will successfully overtake the lesser variety and emerge as the dominant representative of the species OR the random mutation within a variety finds a "niche" within the environment in which it can successfully thrive and survive without displacing the other varieties without the mutation--thereby (eventually) leading to a "new species."
mutations are not environment-driven in terms of agency. some mutations "work" and are subsequently passed down, while others don't work and (if passed down) lead to the elimination of a species.
READ DARWIN. IT WILL CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON SHIT.
>>68483511
and play poker, they are intelligent races
>>68483920
>i don't know basic genetics or evolutionary history of humans: the post
not surprised by the flag desu
>>68484024
>the mutations are random, and it is completely random that a mutation emerges that is the "right fit" with the environment.
Irrelevant. The best fit (no matter how it became such) survives and reproduces. By this mechanism species over time become better adapted to their environment.
I mean damn, they teach you this shit in high school...
>>68483740
depends on the field.
so long as you have good grades--and especially excellent grades in your major field, or the field in which you're pursuing grad work--the GRE becomes a mere "formality." (but obviously there might be an issue if you receive a shit score, like 400 combined.)
>college
Biggest mistake of my life. Graduated with a masters degree in biotechnology, quickly realized that it's absolutely useless outside of academia, got into making soap in my garage, moved on to all kinds of hair products, got them in stores and online retailers, and I'm not worth a couple million.
>>68484192
no shit, but the adaptation isn't directly (agency) caused by the environment. shit's random.
read darwin.
>>68483753
>I agree that the common perception of what constitutes a person's "race" is partially socially constructed. The claim that "race is purely a social construct" is completely false. That claim that there are socially constructed ideas about race is true, but not a very useful statement because the social constructs in general closely align with the biological reality.
This is a long winded way of saying "it's subjective, but my gut feelings should count".
Race is entirely a social construct. There is no criteria for race. Saying that anthropologists can identify race is using circular logic. HOW do they determine race to begin with? What is the criteria they use? And the answer is there is none. They can only compare similar skeletons and say "these two objects are similar to each other".
It would be like if I dumped 100 balls of varying color, size, and bouncyness on the ground, and I said "separate these into like groups". The problem is, you could use any number of criteria to separate them. There is no cutoff for size, and where do you group the balls that are some even mix of blue and green that blurs the line? How can you argue that your separations are any more logical than another person's?
That's the problem with thinking race is real. It's the same as that example. Even though the balls are different, and you can argue some are more similar than others, you can't group them in such a fashion that it isn't completely arbitrary on what you decide to include or not include. Since race is the very idea of that separation, it doesn't work or really exist. It's a loose idea with no definitive criteria or boundaries. What you think qualifies as "caucasian" may not be the same for someone else, and anthropologists don't have some list that they refer to to determine race that they all agree on.
COME HOME WHITE MAN
I never had to read a book written after 1850 in any of my required classes and discussion was always limited to the text. Never once did we apply postmodern criticisms to Plato or wonder whether Hobbes was sexist.
>>68473545
Truth or gtfo leftiescum
>Science
Or
>Delusions
Pic one
Well, I guess all words are social constructs. So there's that
>>68484411
species don't adapt to their environment in the same way in which an african lives in africa.
>>68484441
Holy fuck dude. I don't know how to break this to you but we've recently found this thing called DNA.
no races, only skin colors
>>68477242
You did great, here is a shitty cropping of it.
>>68484441
>They can only compare similar skeletons and say "these two objects are similar to each other".
Or they could compare genetic sequences and get results like the image in >>68479641
With results like that, how is it not taxonomically valid to consider the people in the genetic pools for Africans, Europeans, South Asians, and East Asians?
>>68484444
Quad fours. Tell me more about your Alma mater.
>>68484411
>shit's random
Like I said, that's irrelevant. I'm not saying that fucking god intervened and made white people better at building and maintaining civilisation, just that the dice roll of mutation and the environment they happened to find themselves in went that way.
>>68484551
Yes. They. Do.
Amimal A lives somewhere cold. By chance he's got thicker fur than the rest. This means he lives and the rest die. So he reproduces. Now all his progeny have thick fur too and out compete the rest.
Am I being trolled right now or have you had your brain fried by university brainwashing so much that you can't even grasp basic shit any more?
>>68473545
> why do scientists maintain that what most believe about race is not valid?
Unfortunately, that's not the scientific consensus. Race isn't a social construct; society is a biological construct. Not only is a society the product of the collective bio-social potentials of its population, this collective potential amounts to the biological "capital" of a society, the "biological infrastructure" if you will. Chief amongst a society's biosocial capital is IQ, something highly heritable, and only slightly vulnerable to environmental factors.
Race in the vernacular is a useless term, but "race" has a very specific meaning in biology; races of animals (also called “subspecies” or “ecotypes”) are morphologically distinguishable populations that live in allopatry (i.e. are geographically separated). There is no firm criterion on how much morphological difference it takes to delimit a race. Races of mice, for example, are described solely on the basis of difference in coat color, which could involve only one or two genes.
There are human races too, obviously; there are morphologically different groups of people who live in different areas, though those differences are blurring due to recent innovations in transportation that have led to more admixture between human groups.
How many human races are there? That’s pretty much unanswerable, because human variation is nested in groups, for their ancestry, which is based on evolutionary differences, is nested in groups. So, for example, one could delimit “Caucasians” as a race, but within that group there are genetically different and morphologically different subgroups, including Finns, southern Europeans, Bedouins, and the like. The number of human races delimited by biologists has ranged from three to over thirty.
More resources:
> http://humanbiologicaldiversity.com/
https://youtu.be/Ve6uK00AvNo
https://youtu.be/qm9kHsg0TsM
>>68484777
oops, left out some words
how is it not taxonomically valid to consider the people in the genetic pools for Africans, Europeans, South Asians, and East Asians *TO BE SEPARATE RACES*?
>>68474184
>my teacher is this fat little mexican
So you're saying you don't go to a good college.
>>68484724
you saved me a lot of time
>>68484777
Again, it DOESN'T MATTER if they're "closer" or "more similar". There is no cutoff. There is no way to say "you are in race X if you meet these criteria and you are not if you don't". There's nothing like that. You can point to specific populations being genetically similar(this blue ball is similar to this other differently shaded larger blue ball!), but there is no way to create a separation of that category to definitively say that person is a specific race. There is no criteria or cutoff, so the deviation for the subjective "standard" for that race is effectively infinite.
