>Promises to be neutral to Israel/palestine
>Promises to regulate Jewish bankers
>promises to tax the 1% to stop them from hoarding all the shekels
>Promises to end aggressive foreign policy
meanwhile Trump
>Extermely pro-Irsrael
> wants to give tax cuts to 1% sop they can hoard more sheckels
> Wants top deregulate jewish banks so they can exploit more goys
What does Bernie need to do to get you to vote for him? Get a bad spray tan and make dick jokes?
>>68368100
he is a jewish socialist
>>68369337
unfortunately this cant be forgotten, sanders will never be accepted
Disavow BLM, disavow the trump protestors, stop with the SJW dialog, take an economics class, stop being Jewish, and make his supporter's tears less delicious
>>68368100
>check flag
why do you even care? did you forget to turn on your proxy?
Bernie's answer is to tax everyone more, not just the rich. I make 100,000 a year, and apparently that means that some of my income should be taxed individually at a higher rate.
Source:
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan
He also wants to tax employers 6.5% on payroll and greater taxes on capital gains and dividends.
He also wants to put a tax on all trading (1% of transaction), which affects anyone with a retirement account, not just megabanks.
Bernie would have to give up on his "free shit for people that don't work/are minimally skilled by taxing the fuck out of productive people" plan for me to vote for him.
Socialism sucks.
>>68369862
You gotta give it to the ledditors, they're doing their damn best to appeal to us.
>>68368100
He's a jew and a socialist. He is only saying those things to trick the goyim into voting for him. When's the last time a jew that came into power did anything to crush the jew global power structure? Never? Jesus?
Point made
>>68368100
>I heard you guys hate jews
>Vote for this jew
>>68368100
Yeah socialists love to promise things they can't do, Hollande promised he would crush unemployment, meanwhile unemployment has never been higher in our history.
>>68368100
not that much related, but this meme thats been going around between soros and trump, and that trump is somehow anti establishment like bernie is.
The difference is that bernise wants to FIGHT against soros,
whereas Trump wants to BECOME soros.
>>68369862
>>68370246
check. rare flags yet not so uncivilized as to incite ''how u even haf pc''
Reminder that Bernie is an actual Jew
>>68369337
Seriously I don't care what he says I will never trust him. So many leaders have made this mistake. Jews are backstabbers.
>>68370246
Both Bernie and Soros want to flood our country with third world monkeys. There's no difference between Soros and Bernie in my eyes.
>>68368100
Is this a /pol/ hypocrisy thread?
>scheming Jews are using immigrants as a source of cheap labour to maximise profits and Americans are losing their jobs
>fucking unions and minimum wage laws how dare they go against economics
>taxes on the rich is stealing, they worked hard for that money
>unless it's a Jew, then he used his scheming Jewish tricks to Jew his way to the top through nepotism and shady business
>bloody liberals and their notallmuslisms, then they want to take our guns
The last one was what someone said here.
>>68368100
>Extermely pro-Irsrael
except for the part about wanting to be as impartial as possible to work out something similar to the Camp David accords for Palestine and Israel which has resulted in Rato and the rest of the establishment shill attacking him over it.
> wants to give tax cuts to 1% sop they can hoard more sheckels
eating the rich does not make a prosperous nation
> Wants top deregulate jewish banks so they can exploit more goys
Yes because more government regulation is a good thing. It was only a major factor in the last recession.
>>68369337
> sees post about how trumped jewed the jews and how he will use self hating jews to destroy israel. Pol fully believes
> actual self hating jews who blames his own people for all the shit and wants to tax them took least amount of money from GOP and jews. Pol calls him Socialist jew and instantly dismises him
Can you be more culturaly dissonant than this pol? Seriously I get that his points can be a bit to extreme (not like trump hasnt some of those himself) but he in the worst case scenario Is shilling people for himself rather than the actual gop. He constantly voted against wars as senator and he is basicly flipping the bird to the jews and israel. No he still is the jews of the jews. Fucking bell pol at least keep your narative true. I want my loved right wing nazi kike gasing pol back. You are literaly falling for the shills you are warning about.
>>68370929
but you are a country of immigrants, right?
and that has been doing well for you for a long time, so why ban it now?
>>68371105
no tall muslims?
>>68371464
Because we've always taken either the best and brightest from other countries, or we broke our immigrants through hard labor. We forced assimilation
Bernie wants us to give them blowjobs as they come out the plane.
Being nice to immigrants doesn't make them assimilate. Just look at Europe and their Muslim communities speaking Arabic even 3 generations in.
>>68371464
>as a child i lived on breastmilk from my mother
>as an adult i do not
why? why change now?
well, its because that it isnt healthy, or atleast as healthy as it once was. immigration 300 years ago was great; it sucks today.
Why does this sub get so triggered by Bernie Sanders? He's harmless
>>68371135
>government regulation was a large factor in the recession
Wasn't it a lack of proper regulation? Last I heard it was because of sub prime loans packaged into securities getting great credit scores, causing lots of people to use way too much leverage for such a risky faulting and causing housing assests to crash when the loans started defaulting.
>>68371862
Not all Muslims, anon
>>68371464
The immigration was from white countries.
>>68372264
what about all muslims?
>>68372264
I think you took a bait. Insignificant bait but still bait. Was ment to be a joke most likely
>>68372194
Glass–Steagall's repeal in the nineties allowed Wall Street access to a lot more money in the forms of deposits to make risky loans if you ask some, but others say that Glass–Steagall didn't really regulate what the banks did. There's also other factors. There was a huge moral hazard on part of all the industries involved as they thought they were passing on the risk to the next guy.
>>68371917
You didn't break your immigrants. True, they formed a large amount of the working class. But they greatly influenced American culture. Everything from plays like West Side Story to Chinese food.
>>68371917
>Bernie wants us to give them blowjobs as they come out the plane.
where dose he say this? I actually think hes whole speech is to invest more in the assimilation of the immigrants(education, registers taxed labor, etc), rather to invest in building fences and border patrols.
>>68372268
I MEAN, COME ON, IT'S _______
>>68372573 here
Although it is worth mentioning a lot of this came out of the Dems in the nineties, both with Glass-Steagall's repeal and other factors.
http://spectator.org/articles/42211/true-origins-financial-crisis
>In 1995, the regulators created new rules that sought to establish objective criteria for determining whether a bank was meeting CRA standards. Examiners no longer had the discretion they once had. For banks, simply proving that they were looking for qualified buyers wasn’t enough. Banks now had to show that they had actually made a requisite number of loans to low- and moderate-income (LMI) borrowers. The new regulations also required the use of “innovative or flexible” lending practices to address credit needs of LMI borrowers and neighborhoods. Thus, a law that was originally intended to encourage banks to use safe and sound practices in lending now required them to be “innovative” and “flexible.” In other words, it called for the relaxation of lending standards, and it was the bank regulators who were expected to enforce these relaxed standards.
>The effort to reduce mortgage lending standards was led by the Department of Housing and Urban Development through the 1994 National Homeownership Strategy, published at the request of President Clinton. Among other things, it called for “financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, to help homeowners that lack cash to buy a home or to make the payments.” Once the standards were relaxed for low-income borrowers, it would seem impossible to deny these benefits to the prime market. Indeed, bank regulators, who were in charge of enforcing CRA standards, could hardly disapprove of similar loans made to better-qualified borrowers.
Banks got greedy as fuq assuming house prices would always go up, but if Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae hadn't been forced to start buying the subpar loans up, it's likely that the crisis would not have happened - or lesser.
>>68371464
When the US received most of its immigrants they didn't have any welfare.
>>68372640
America had no true culture so they were much easier to influece. You cant really compare 300 years worth of history to 1 2 3k worth pf culture. Their culture was both not strong enough and became to superficial (I think it was shaped to be like that by the powers that be) and it only barly spreads cause of the amount of shit we can share and how powerful the american influence is (politicly wise)
>>68373000
The round trips best trips. Well done faggot you are now god make your choices wisely.
You assholes are either beta or honest to God NEET.
Social scientists like RJ Gordon have proven that this country is going to shit because too much wealth is going to the top 1%. Why don't you betas want to have a strong middle class? Why don't you want to see real wages rise with productivity again?
Sanders is a democratic socialist. He's going to dole out more NEET bucks. Why are you NEETs voting against your own interests?
>>68372640
Look at the history of Chinese immigrants. They were literally broken in. They were put through more work than slaves.>>68372909
European governments spout assimilation too. But all it means for them is to throw money at people because they think everyone has a trendy western liberal inside them
>>68373222
Socialist and feminist policies are what MAKES neets. They're the reason neets even exist.
Socialism isn't about strengthening the middle class. All the burden gets placed on the middle class in socialist systems.
I can't wait to see you fucks realize how unsustainable socialism is when the US pulls out military support from Europe and they have to pay for their own defense. The gibsmedats will end real quick
>>68373222
>implying implies
your great reason to vote for him seems to be ''he'll take money away from the rich'' when in reality its ''he'll take money away from the rich, the middleclass, the almost rich, the almost middleclass, the succesful buisnesses and everything in between, and distribute it to the poor.''
also
>implying being a NEET is good
>implying socialism isnt the largest contributor to the NEET population
>implying that if you are a NEET, you cant recognize being a NEET is bad
>>68368100
He needs to stop supporting amnesty and/or a new "path to citizenship" for illegal immigrants.
If Bernie would run the exact same platforms he has now, but also promise to repeal birthright citizenship, I would quit my job and work for his campaign instead. Amnesty is a deal-breaker.
>>68372573
I don't know about the subtle points of it, but I'm somewhat sure Glass Steagal is a meme. Glass Steagal repealed allowed commercial banks and investment banks to merge. But banks like Goldman Sachs and Lehmann are investment banks that weren't affected. Sure some like Wells Fargo and JPMorgan provide banking services but I doubt people's savings made up much of their wealth.
>>68373254
>European governments spout assimilation too
sorry, but you're talking out of your ass. Eroupe has its current problem precisely because they had none assimilation policies. They were in need of cheap labor force, and did close to nothing on the plan of assimilation.
>>68374338
With Glass Steagal repealed, banks were able to use the regular deposits of people in order to make riskier loans.
>>68368100
only faggots and carls support this retard.
>>68373738
Jesus Christ who pissed in your lego this morning?
Nobody is saying he's going to take money from the rich. It's part of the larger conversation of whose fucking money it is.
I've seen some cunt CEOs in my day, their only qualification an MBA, take the lion's share of a company's revenue while simultaneously driving it into the ground. And we're taught to be OK with that, that they earn their bloated salaries, and questioning it is socialism and soaking the rich.
You did not even address the fact that over the last fifty years wages have not risen with productivity.
Shame on me for wanting people to get a square deal.
>>68373222
>Social scientists like RJ Gordon have proven that this country is going to shit because too much wealth is going to the top 1%.
theory is theory anon
>Why don't you betas want to have a strong middle class?
it would be nice, but we live in an imperfect world and bernie's proposals will not fix that.
>Why don't you want to see real wages rise with productivity again?
we don't live in the fifties anymore, technology advanced. You go to move for $15 minimum wages and higher employer/payroll taxes and you are going to see people get replaced with machines. a lower paying job is better than no job at all for a lot of people.
>Sanders is a democratic socialist. He's going to dole out more NEET bucks. Why are you NEETs voting against your own interests?
speak for yourself. some of us work and don't want to pay for handouts for the lazy
>>68375550
sanders himself is saying it.
2.2% effective income tax increase on ALL income levels, starting at 0%, with a top tax rate over 54%. I'm nowhere near the top bracket. I pay 28% tax on the last 9K of my income ($91K & up) federally. sanders 2.2% tax across the board impacts me, and the level of his new bracket is another 2.2% higher. that excludes state tax
>You did not even address the fact that over the last fifty years wages have not risen with productivity.
the improvement of telecommunications and the internet make it easier to send jobs offshore to areas with a lower cost of living where the resources cost less to get equal productivity. machines challenge this even more, making it easier to replace humans altogether in certain jobs. the recession made this even worse, making people okay to take jobs at existing wages.
merely forcing a higher minimum wage would not just mean workers got paid more. businesses would cut hours and staff, and the breakeven of machine automation will become a lot easier.
>>68368100
He needs to stop being a fucking commie.
You don't fuck and AIDS patient, and you don't elect commies.
>>68376821 here
let's take one classic minimum wage job: flipping burgers at a fast food restaurant. let's say your minimum wage is $8/hr. now you pass a law to double that and it becomes $16. the productivity of that worker did not increase, but your labor cost just went up massively.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/minimum-wage-offensive-could-speed-arrival-of-robot-powered-restaurants/2015/08/16/35f284ea-3f6f-11e5-8d45-d815146f81fa_story.html
>The industry could be ready for another jolt as a ballot initiative to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour nears in the District and as other campaigns to boost wages gain traction around the country. About 30 percent of the restaurant industry’s costs come from salaries, so burger-flipping robots — or at least super-fast ovens that expedite the process — become that much more cost-competitive if the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is doubled.
now you have more than half your costs coming from salaries. with margins like that automation becomes much more appealing.
>The labor-saving technology that has so far been rolled out most extensively — kiosk and tablet-based ordering — could be used to replace cashiers and the part of the wait staff’s job that involves taking orders and bringing checks. Olive Garden said earlier this year that it would roll out the Ziosk system at all its restaurants, which means that all a server has to do is bring out the food.
>Robots can even help cut down on the need for high-skilled workers such as sushi chefs. A number of high-end restaurants use machines for rolling rice out on sheets of nori, a relatively menial task that takes lots of time. Even though sushi chefs tend to make more than $15 an hour, they could be on the chopping block if servers need to make $15 an hour, too.
basically tablets at tables replace 5-6 servers with one person running food. boom, five jobs gone. automation is already removing low end jobs.
>>68377293 here
how do we resist this? the answer is hard. making it illegal to automate is not going to happen. Some people prefer automation and self service, like the ziosk tablet. you can pay at the table quickly, the menu is interactive, and whenever you order something it's immediately sent to the kitchen/bar rather than you having to wait for a server to stop by and run the order to the kitchen. cheaper larger restaurants don't give you a choice, and most people want their dollar to go further. The reality is with technology becoming cheaper, there are some people that do not have any substantial skills of value to society; they cannot do a job at a wage someone is willing to pay.
food service industry (servers) are under threat. food prep is under threat, especially for fast food restaurants. driverless cars threaten to unemploy millions of drivers (truck, taxi, limo) while saving lives and driving safer. with centralized systems and analytics secretaries get replaced. this creates a few jobs for the people who program, make, and maintain the robots/computers but eliminates a lot of lower end jobs.
even smart meters eliminate jobs. they send back usage information for households and businesses to the utility immediately. they allow the utility to better see demand increases/decreases and ramp up cheaper forms of electricity production before peak demands. but now you don't have to pay a guy to drive around and read the meters.
The answer that will become a bigger deal in the next 10-50 years is that handouts in the form of an alternative minimum income are going to become mandatory.
but people who work hard for their money will not want it taken away. Bernie's tax proposals cost a lot of people, not just multi millionaires. people don't want to pay more tax, and will generally resist attempts to increase it.
>>68371378
> actual self hating jews who blames his own people for all the shit and wants to tax them took least amount of money from GOP and jews. Pol calls him Socialist jew and instantly dismises him.
it's Judeo-Bolshevism, It's just another scam to install jews as the global ruling class. Don't believe their lies.
>>68369862
>that picture
Fake as fuck
>>68378111 here
Another example: When I drive from New York to Philadelphia (where my employer's office is), I encounter one (and soon to be two) tolls that are completely cashless. the first switched in January, the second is switching on before the end of April. A large gantry with radar, cameras, and antennas hangs over cars and trucks. If you have an E-ZPass toll tag, your account gets debited. If you don't, it snaps a picture of your license plate, and you get mailed a bill. You don't stop, you don't even slow down for the toll. It reduces idle emissions at toll plazas, increases traffic efficiency, etc... the machines have a lower cost of operation so the tolls don't have to be increased as much to pay for the workers. Everyone wins...except the cash toll collectors, who are now out of a job.
This is the future. In the fifties machines could not do as much as they do now. The computer age created opportunities and conveniences and efficiencies, but technology is a double edged sword. Machines don't get sick (they rarely break if properly designed), they don't ask for raises, they work 24 hours a day. Even when you can't replace a human entirely, with the rise of the internet and telecommunications, it's a lot easier to shift jobs offshore to areas where people can give you the same work for less money.
>>68379157
We see it at tollbooths. Cameras and antennas do what humans did, for less.
We see it at fast food restaurants. In cities with $15 minimum wage, Mcdonalds is rolling out touchscreen self service kiosks. They're even testing automatic fry dispensers, where a machine dumps the french fries in, fries them, and dispenses them. No need for cashiers anymore (maybe one, for people who don't want to use the machines, rather than multiple)
We see it at casual dining restaurants. Those Ziosk tablets? Very popular at many chains. Olive Garden tested them in more expensive minimum wage areas and liked them so much they're now rolling them out to all locations. Boom, 6 people just got replaced with 1 person and a bunch of tablets.
We're seeing it with cars. The technology is not there, but ten or fifteen years from now, it will be commercial. Tesla Model S already has the autopilot mode, Google et al have these cars driving around already.
Increasing the minimum wage just makes this worse because it creates an artificial restriction on what a job is worth. And the reality is, certain jobs are worth it at $7/hr...but at $15, it becomes that much easier to break even quickly through automation.
The reality is, it has become cheaper to get the same productivity, either by outsourcing or by machine. People have to compete with that, or employers will replace them. Just legislating that humans in the US must be paid for just makes it worse.
>>68368100
He even refused to show up to the jew convention that Trump was standing in line all night for to suck their cut schlongs
>>68380483 here
The real problem I have with Bernie's proposals is that he seems to just believe if you tax everything, the rich will just take it lying down. Seriously, let's go through some of his proposals:
>Adds four new income tax brackets for high-income households, with rates of 37 percent, 43 percent, 48 percent, and 52 percent.
This just creates more incentive for legal tax avoidance. The rich of the rich can pay for methods to legally avoid or defer tax, and pay smart people to find these methods. Meanwhile:
>Creates a new 2.2 percent “income-based [health care] premium paid by households.” This is equivalent to increasing all tax bracket rates by 2.2 percentage points, and would raise the top marginal income tax rate to 54.2 percent.
Everyone just has to pay this.
>Creates a new 6.2 percent employer-side payroll tax on all wages and salaries. This is referred to by the campaign as an “income-based health care premium paid by employers.”
This is a direct cost to the employer. With minimum wage, this means the employer pays more per employee. At a $7 minimum wage, that's forty cents an hour. For a full time employee, that's $64/mo, or $768 per year. Even if the self service kiosk costs $2,000, the cost hike from this alone means that it would pay for itself in less than three years - just from this employer tax raise. There's also another 0.2% tax for a family/medical leave trust.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/a-living-wage/
>Proposed a national $15 per hour minimum wage.
Bernie wants a minimum wage of $15 nationally. Look at the difference forty cents made above. Now your labor cost in a lot of markets is going to go up 50% in some markets ($10 now -> $15 later) and more than double in others (federal minimum wage is $7.25, less than half of $15). Employers will automate and cut hours. Jobs that can be replaced by machines will reach breakeven much either, accelerating the rate at which humans are replaced by machines
>>68381762 here
The ideal of passing on all costs to employers and that they'll just sit taking it laying down is absurd. The reality is that the standard of living for the middle class from decades ago is not coming back, and attempting to make it come back by more than doubling the minimum cost to hire a human is naive at best. People who want to earn more need to develop a skill that is more valuable to society than what they currently do, either because machines can't do it, or humans can do it better/cheaper than a machine.
In Seattle businesses started replacing people with machines. They passed a $15 minimum wage in 2015 in Seattle but it was phased. Larger employers have to pay it in 2017, while small businesses have until 2021. The larger employers that employ more people started replacing humans before the wage hike even came into effect, they saw it was coming and rather than wait to automate once they were paying more out they started it now.
Bernie thinks that if he says it, it must be true, but he ignores the realities around the issues. Hence all the jokes about Bernie not knowing economics.
>>68368100
>jew
>promising to fight against jews
that's a red flag
