Hey /pol/, despite what you trumpfags insist, Hillary will win. Objectively, she's the most experienced, level-headed, and capable candidate. And all she's gotta do is put Bernie on her ticket and she will win 100%.
Face it, /pol/: she's gonna be president in 2016. Convince me otherwise in a non-meme, non-conspiracyfag way. Protip: you can't.
>>68319807
IDK senpai, the primary turnout has been pretty piss poor for dems vs repubs
Bernie on the ticket would be smart for Hillary though.
I think the only ticket that can really beat Trump at this point is Sanders/Warren. You'll have to force every dem or liberal to get out to vote since republicans/trump-supporters have been coming out in higher than expected numbers.
Sanders is a pussy and can't attack Clinton on issues that normal americans understand and dislike. Trump has been accused of every -ism there is and is still going strong. Trump will simply hammer down on every negative aspect of Clinton's life. From her emails to her husband. Everything that has been off limits to Sanders will be fair game to Trump.
>>68319982
Primary Turnout does not equate to Election Turnout
>>68320429
Why? Because Nigs and Spics are too lazy to vote for the dems in the primaries?
>>68320267
But just as much as Republicans/Trump supporters don't give a single a shit about people calling him sexist, racist, etc., most Democrats don't give a shit about her emails and most of the other scandals associated with her name. Plus, I feel like a Hillary/Bernie ticket would bring many more Democrats out to the polls (granted, that's just speculation).
And I disagree with a Sanders/Warren ticket being able to beat Trump: for one thing, Warren is better off in the Senate, and if Bernie somehow ended up getting the Democratic nomination, he would alienate a bunch of moderates as soon as people started calling him a socialist and pointing out the illogical aspects of his plan. Clinton is a moderate, so she's a better ticket. That's always been the case.
>>68320500
Their laziness in the primaries doesn't matter as long as they do what they did in 2008 and 2012 and vote significantly enough for a Dem to win in the general, friendo :^)
>>68320500
>>68320756
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/primary-turnout-means-nothing-for-the-general-election/
STATS STATS STATS
Crowded GOP field produces record voter turnout during primaries.
General election will fare differently.
>>68320821
>fivethirtyeight
>being right about anything this election cycle
Pick one.
>>68320821
Exactly.
>>68320958
Every election year, I've seen people like you who think that somehow, by magic, this year's gonna be different, that their candidate is different. Stop letting your bias get in the way of recognizing the truth in historical trends. Sure, Trump would win if GOP voter turnout stayed as high in the general as it was in the primaries. But you can't be sure that will happen.
>>68320632
If you read the comments on NYT articles, where people are almost uniformly liberal, a lot of people are actually bothered by her emails and Wall Street speeches.
I have a hard time believing Clinton would pick Sanders as her VP (I think she would only do that out of desperation) because it would confine her to running on a hard left platform, which would turn a lot of "independent" (if independents actually exist) voters.
I also can't imagine Warren running in this cycle, although she might want a VP slot in order to get her name out there. Maybe that's what she is trying to do with those tweets. However, I think it's important to note that her tweets were just a bland rehash of all the trite name-calling we've already seen.
In my opinion, Trump has already received the worst criticism anyone can really level at him, and his image/appeal can only really improve as more people actually see him as a political contender, especially once they see him 1 on 1 with HRC, who is an awful speaker and absolutely shit at thinking on her feet and has an unpleasant voice.
>>68321343
It will
>>68321343
Look at literally every one of his trump predictions
Even blind luck would be right more often mr shill
>>68319807
Why does black people like bernie so much?
>>68321823
They don't like bernie, they like shillary.
>>68321402
The comments section of NYT articles are certainly not a source of statistical data. In a McClatchy-Marist poll, only 6% of Democrats said they think Hillary Clinton did something illegal regarding her emails.
And I think a Sanders VP choice would make sense. Because a VP choice isn't necessarily about choosing a moderate person to get independent votes. Your choice of VP is all about targeting a voting block. Take McCain in 2008. Do you think he was targeting moderates by choosing Sarah Palin as his VP? Fuck no.
Now that I think about it, Warren as a VP is also a possibility for Hillary.
And you have a good point about Trump. Hillary's gonna have to attack him hard during the debates and not just by pulling the "muh female voters" card.
>>68319807
When Trump gets the nomination he will destroy her, it will be a bloodbath. Remember that Jeb was the frontrunner at the start of this, look what he did to him.
>>68322000
Why does black people like shillary?
>>68319807
Rather Hillary than Bernie
>>68322078
Because Hillary's masculine enough to feel like the father they never had, while Bernie's too much of pussy to resonate as any sort of father figure.
>>68322070
The only reason Jeb got absolutely destroyed was because no one supported him.
>fucking 3%
>>68319807
You're an idiot. "Experienced"? How? FUCKING BILL CLINTON IS NOT POLITICAL EXPERIENCE. She's never finished a political job she's started. Ran out on NY to become Sec. of State. Ran out on Sec. of State to avoid questions. Did NOTHING OF ACTUAL VALUE for NY during 8 YEARS as Senator. She has SLIGHTLY more political experience than Ted Cruz. The candidate with the most political experience still in the race is Sanders. REMEMBER: FUCKING BILL CLINTON IS NOT POLITICAL EXPERIENCE.
BUT BUT TRUMP WAS THE SAVIOR OF THE WHITE RACE GUIES
>>68319807
Why would anyone vote for a liar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSrD1DE3ZR0
>>68322652
He had quite decent support pre-announcement, but seeing as Trump announced the day after, he just got clobbered. Jeb was meant to be the frontrunner through kindness, leadership and politeness, but his opponents were all-around too rough. If Trump wouldn't have killed his ratings, Cruz would have.
>>68321343
Here's a historical trend for you: when one party holds the White House for 8 years, they lose it in the next election. It's a Republican year.
>>68319807
She's getting a bullet in her head whether you like it or not.
>>68322670
What does finishing a political job even mean? You're implying that every congressman/senator has to be a congressman/senator for some specific amount of time in order to "finish their job". That's retarded. And as Secretary of State she did nothing? That's just revisionist history.
And isn't the Republicuck meme that Bill Clinton doesn't fuck Hillary? Keep your memes accurate, fag.
>>68319807
OBAMA AND LYNCH AND COMEY HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO INDICT HER!!!
she's going down faster than a fat kid dropping a cupcake...
>>68319807
oh shell win... not cause shes a good candidate or anything, but because of the connections she has. this whole election is pre planned
>>68319807
>mfw she won't be able to do shit, based republicans will block her, just as they did with obongo
>>68324138
This. If she wins, its obvious it was rigged.
>>68322652
He was very well supported by the establishment. Hillary didn't even run against a real opponent yet. Bernie is a cuck and a pushover. Trump was bribing Hillary. If she had any sense, she would drop out for health reasons before the actual debate with him. Granted, Trump may be denied the nom, but if he doesn't, he knows where Hillary's racket is at. He was the host and she was the extortionist. They are not friends. Trump will rip her a second asshole if he gets to her.
>>68319807
>>68319807
>put bernie on her ticket
kek
>>68324279
>>68324138
>If she wins, it's rigged
This is why you guys haven't learned anything in 8 years.
>>68319807
Would Bernie even want to go as Clintons VP?
He strikes me as an idealist and I dont think he could change anything as VP
Hey guys! Did you hear about this Benghazi place?