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Why did they jews kill jesus?
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to get to the other side
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>>68305441
He was exposing their bullshit. Didn't you read the gospels?
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to protect their incomes, as usual.
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>>68305441
Because jews worship the devil
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>>68305441
Because he is the antithesis of Judaism.
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>>68305561
Wernt most jews slaves at that time. I think they were all controled by rome
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>>68305441
because they thought Jesus said blasphemous things. Also at the time the Jews incorrectly thought that the real Messiah would come with a sword, not be born as a human
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>>68305441
God chose them because he knew only one race would actually kill the word made flesh, a perfect being, and a wise teacher.
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>>68305507
Like giving ten percent to "god". Even if your poor as shit.
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He broke the law.
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>>68305673
There messiah is the anti christ.
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>>68305441
>>68305673
^this
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>>68305441
Because he said not to be greedy and to destroy the banks
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>>68305441
The real question is why do the pretend the romans killed him?
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it was just a prank
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>>68305441
He was anti Trump
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>>68305673
What did he do that was blasphemy?
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>>68305586
I think that is a Coincidence
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>>68306113
Claim to be the son of God? They thought he was a bullshit artist
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>>68305441
Is this movie red pilled? mel gibson the jewkiller made it so it has to be??


any opinions?
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>>68305441
Because he tried to stop the pharisees from controlling an entire group of people through fear. Then the church came and became the NuJew
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>>68305441
>giving to charity
>teaching Jews morals by using parables involving money and banking
>forgiving enemies
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>>68306267
It's a really good movie man. Spoken in Aramaic, Latin and Hebrew. Really good acting. You should watch it.
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>>68305441
Jews worship the antichrist not Jesus so he had to die.
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>>68307199
This
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>>68307199
>>68306649
>>68306431
keep in mind that the "jews" of today arent the same as the ancient jews

fucking stupid germanics
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Because he was a filty jew
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>>68305441
>>68305561

Jews don't believe in hell because that's where they go when they die.

They either go to the nice part of hell or the bad part. There's no heaven for them.
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>>68307731
Good part of hell?
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>>68307369
Yes they are.

There are two types of religious people.

1. A person who had a religion forced onto them.
2. A willing follower.
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>>68308028
>good
>hell

I said nice part. Not good.
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>>68305441
The romans killed jesus, and they did it because he was yet another another judean fanatic threatening their rule
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>>68308090
Whats the difference?
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>be jew
>jew the jews
>jews jew me back

wew
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>>68308264
You're retarded and I'm not.
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>>68308264
One part black men fuck your wife

The other part they bbc fuck you
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>>68305441
He was claiming to be God. He fulfilled the prophecy as the sacrificial lamb who died for our sins.
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No one killed jesus, he didn't exist.
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>>68305441

They didn't. It was the Romans.

I don't know how anyone can read the Barabbas story and think that it actually happened.

As if you would actually have people in the audience yelling "let his blood be upon us an our children." That's so clearly an invention of the biblical authors.

It's also a retelling of an earlier Jewish story about Aaron and the sacrificial goat.

>>68305586

If you believe Jews worship the devil then Jesus has no credibility because he says many times that he came for the lost sheep of Israel.

>>68305507

He was only against the Phrases who were the corrupt puppets of Rome. The rest of his apostles and all of those who listened and followed him were Jews.

>>68305592

But he's not as he clearly followed Jewish laws on most occasions, and only dismissed it when circumstance required. His most notable break from Judaism is "turn the other cheek" instead of "an eye for an eye."
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>>68308570
There was no prophecy for a sacrificial lamb to die for our sins. The messiah was supposed to be a conqueror/liberator, not a loser who gets executed without achieving anything
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>>68308653

>"I get all my information from Zeitgeist!"
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Because Jews are not Israelites, and he called them out on it.
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>>68308762

The teachings of Christ are truly the way to conquer the ways of this world. Violence only begets violence.

If everyone made the decision to live as Christ intended all of our problems would disappear over night. We don't even have to succeed in living as he taught, we only have to try. Trying alone, every day, would be enough to change the world.
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>>68308847

>Because Jews are not Israelites, and he called them out on it.

Possibly the biggest crock of shit in this thread.
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>>68308778
Aw okay hun, keep believing fairy tales. Post a fedora picture if it makes you feel better.
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>>68308533
I actually like bbc men fucking my wife. It's actually kinda hot. You guys should let your wives fuck bbc. They will squirt harder than they ever have before
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>>68305441
>Why did they jews kill jesus?
Can't answer a grammatically incorrect question.
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>>68308990

>hun, fedora, etc

Nice fact based rebuttal. Oh, that's right...
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>>68308762
He established the kindom of heaven. He conquered death. He is a king, but not of this world.
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>>68305441
because he was an influential leader with a devoted following that threatened the establishment.
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>>68305441
Because he was an agitator. Like a communist for religion, giving salvation to anyone. He also did upset the Romans.

>>A religion for the plebs
>>Not praising Caesar
>>Antisemitic Jew

He was the original an hero if you think about it.
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>>68308570
Black men are the true gods. The gods of sex anyways. They all have big dicks for a reason. They all make woman cum hard as hell for a reason. I mean i have never meet a woman that hasn't tried bbc.
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>>68305441
Jesus probably mutilated Aramaic in the same way your question destroys English.
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>>68308732
>The rest of his apostles and all of those who listened and followed him were Jews.
Yes, real Jews, AKA Christians - those who follow the Jewish messiah Jesus Christ. Modern Jews are essentially Pharisees, they are corrupt Satan worshipers who reject the Lord.
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>>68309014
Like the facts you get from your 2000 year old book that's been edited to shit and has no basis in reality?
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>>68309046
Sure, he achieved a lot in peoples imaginations, but literally nothing in the real world.

>>68308906
Except the messiah was meant to literally lead armies of literal conquest
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>>68309141

>Yes, real Jews, AKA Christians

No. Those people still considered themselves Jews. Messianic Jews, but Jews none the less.

The original church body didn't even call themselves Christians.
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>>68308944
Care to explain?
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>>68309153

>edited.

Actually the earliest Gospels, dating around 80 AD, are almost exactly the same as what we have today. The "constantly edited" argument used by uneducated atheists holds no water.
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>>68309234
This is meaningless semantics. Those that follow Christ are the Jews, the real Jews. Other "Jews" that reject Christ are not real Jews.
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>>68308653
There are non Christians, and enemies of Christ who confirm that he at the very least was a real person. No historian agrees with you.
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>>68305441
The Italians killed Jesus.
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>>68309311

>Lived among Jews
>Was a Jew himself because his mother was Jewish
>Only traveled in Jewish lands
>Most spoke only to Jewish people
>Frequent references to his arrival being "for his people."
>Frequently saying he came for "the lost sheep of Israel."
>Practicing aspects of the Jewish faith
>Having a zealot in his group (very important)
>Being called Rabbi
>Speaking in the temple at age 13
>Having followers and apostles who still adhered to Jewish tradition
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>>68309339
I guess that's not the CRAZIEST shit you choose to believe, but still....
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>>68309520

It's not a choice, it's a historical fact.

Are you familiar with the work of anthropology and archeology? I'm not sure you are.

You can say a lot of valid things to attack Christianity, but what you're saying is total nonsense. And you're using personal attacks because you lack facts to make a decent rebuttal.
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>>68309429
Jesus barely fulfilled any of the messianic prophecies, which is where the whole concept of the second coming comes from. Why should jews believe he is the messiah?
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>>68305441
They didn't, the real Jews wuz black, those were some kind of crackas hatin' on him
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>>68309725
He fulfilled all of them
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>>68309430
Uh-huh. I like physical evidence to back up claims before I believe them. Not just a book that says god's my daddy and I'm a very special boy.
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>>68309725
Do you need anything more than the resurrection? Look up Mike Licona on YouTube.

Let me as you one question. If Christianity was true, would you be a Christian?
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>>68309311
Judaism is the religion
Jews are the ones who practice that religion,
Israel was a Kingdom together with Judea (both got recked by Assirians, Babilonians and Romans). A rebellion in Roman Empire caused the Diaspora. Jews had to go, Ashkenazis to Germany, Ladinos to Spain. There they dwell making money during the Middle Ages.
After 6 million, Israel became a country again in the 20th century.

And thats why not every Jew is an Israelite
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>>68309767

Very much so.

>>68309725

>He was to be a “second” Moses (prophet)
>He was to be a “second” David (Davidic king)
>He was to be a “second” Melchizedek (Kingly Priest)
>He was to be a faithful priest (as opposed to Eli)
>He was to be a Rejected Messiah
>He was to be a Betrayed Messiah
>He was to be a killed-and-resurrected Davidic king
>He was to come in power ‘on clouds’
>He was to come in weakness ‘on a donkey’
>He was to be a Teacher of the Gentiles
>He was to be a “Breaker” (Micah 2.12-13) of both external enemies and of internal power elites within Israel (and ‘stone of stumbling’)
>He was to be a Suffering Servant
>He was to be Ruler of All Nations (and destroyer of all wicked, so there could be peace in the world)
>He was to be Sacrifice for the sins of Israel
>He was to Redeem (Release) Israel from bondage to foreign powers
>He was to Save (in the future) all those who believed (in the present)
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>>68309697
It doesn't matter. What evidence do you have for a higher power? Tangible evidence. None.
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>>68309767
Then why did he not restore Israel as an independant nation, the one specific thing the messiah is supposed to do?
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>>68309953

This is too "baity" for me.
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>>68309809
How about a claim by the historian Josephus? He was a Jew so he rejected Christ but he confirms his existence.
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>>68309952
Wow, you wasted a lot of time memorizing that shit.
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>>68310084

Again, more bait.
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>>68310037
No bait, seriously, produce any convincing argument for a god.
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>>68309141
But Jews make all the bbc porn? Without them what will i jerk off to?
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>>68305441
>Swallowing the Jews killed Jesus blue pill.

The Romans killed Jesus. Paul and some of the other shifted the blame onto the Jews in order to help convert the Romans.
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>>68310120
No bait. I'm astounded by people like you. I almost feel some pity.
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>>68305648

No they had a lot of autonomy. Most peoples under the Rome trading near the silk road also did.
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>>68310157

It's not my job to enlighten you. Only you can do that for yourself.

A true Christian understands that the crux of this entire story, from the parable of the Garden of Eden, is choice. Free will. Making your own choice.

And that's something you need to do for yourself.

Oh, also, I recognize you from your writing styles. You pop up in a lot of these kinds of threads. How are you this evening my Canadian friend?
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>>68308314
Now the Jews are the ones jewing me
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>>68308653
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>>68310157
Argument for God? Easy. How does something come from nothing? Don't tell me that you believe that the universe just started like magic. It has a cause. It can only be caused by something outside of it. That cause must have the reason for its own existence within itself. That is what we call God.

If Christianity were true, would you be a Christian?
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>>68310228

>I almost feel some pity.

Feel no pity. I have a wonderful life. While I endure hardships like anyone else, I have a great peace that has led me through terrible troubles and brought happiness and prosperity to my life.

I also don't harbor the anger that you seem to have. Anger is such life ruining poison. I wish you could be free from it.
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>>68310080
I'm pretty sure he just confirms "a teacher" no way of knowing it was Jesus or not.
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>>68309518
But very few Jews had any blood from the Israelite tribes. Being a Jew didn't just refer to the blood line.

Huge difference between Jew & judean.
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Any Christian is a Jew. This is for your mouth.
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the real reason the jews killed him is because he was advocating for social ideas that interfered with the jews economic interests. if jesus had advocated ideas that promoted the well being of the all powerful jews then they would have gladly adopted it as another section to the old testament.

remember when thinking about jews they always act in economic interests. everything they do is for shekels all else is an illusion.
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>>68310500

Can't be Jewish unless you have the blood passed on by your mother.

Science no backs up this idea with the understanding of mitochondrial DNA, which is only passed by the mother.

This is why people who convert to Judaism are never considered true Jews.
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You guys are faggots.
The story of Jesus is a plagiarized one form the story of Horus, Ra, and so many others from all over the world. Mixed with the humanization of astrological events it made for a very good book to teach people to be nice to each other.

>>68310400
>How does something come from nothing?
Big bang?
> It can only be caused by something outside of it.
big crunch?

>inb4 --> that flag = guaranteed (You)s
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>>68305494
Fpbp
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>>68308762
>has a large percentage of the entire world worshipping him, and will continue to for the rest of the time humans and earth exist
>never accomplished anything.

I'm actually struggling to see how you can accomplish more. What in your mind would be a bigger accomplishment?
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>>68305441
Because he claimed to be God. Which btw he is.
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>>68305441

G-d commanded the Jews to kill false prophets. G-d said he was not a man and the law is eternal. Jesus, a man, claimed to be divine and attempted to change the law. Ergo, Jesus was a false peopbet, and the Jews were obligated to kill him.
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>>68310651
What is the big bang? Surely you know that the big bang needed matter to happen. Does matter simply create itself? How about the laws of the universe that are required for the big bang to take place?
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Your God on his cross.
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>>68310400
>I can't explain it logically, so it must be my invisible daddy.
>you can't explain lightning, it must be Thor.
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>>68310651

>The story of Jesus is a plagiarized one form
the story of Horus, Ra, and so many others from all over the world.

This nonsense has been thoroughly refuted many, many times.

Story of Horus:
>Osiris and Isis are a couple.
>Osiris is killed by Set
>Set chops his body into pieces and throws it into the River Nile
>A fish with the head of a dog eats his penis
>Isis re-assembles the body of Osiris but cannot find the penis because it has been eaten by a fish.
>She makes a golden penis for him
>The copulate and produce a child named Horus

Totally the same as Christ, am I right?
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>>68305441
>he was a problem Jew
>Talmud says a Jew cannot kill another Jew
>Talmud says that anyone that kills a Jew shall be labeled as Antisemitic
>Jews ask the Romans to kill Jesus
>They ask the Jews why
>The Jews pay them
>Romans fulfill their contract with the Jews
>Jews call the Romans Antisemitic after that ever since
>The New Testament points this out plain as day
>Jews hate The New Testament for calling out their kikery

pretty simple desu senpai
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>>68305441
>Why did they jews kill jesus?
lol, didn't the Romans kill Jesus?
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>>68305441
You'd need to be pretty idiotic to pick a false prophet over Barabbas
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>>68310868
I am explaining it logically, but forget it and just answer my question.

If Christianity were true, would you be a Christian?
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>>68310226
Thats the blue pill. We "know" Romans killed thr son of god. But why would thry travel thosands of miles to kill someone who wasnt a threat to them?
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>>68310407
>on /pol/
>doesn't feel anger

pick one
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>>68311041
If christianity were true and verifiable, yes, there'd be no reason not to be, that's a dumb question.
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>>68308217
Pontius Pilate literally "washed his hands" of the whole ordeal and simply did what the jews wanted him to do, though you probably knew that already kike.
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>>68305441
Couldn't handle the bantz
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>>68311085

>on /pol/
>thinks we're a mindless hive mind
>doesn't put a space before his post

Oh, and if you hate anyone you cannot be a true Christian. Christ equated hate with murder and said that those who have hate for their fellow man have no salvation. And his treatment of the Samaritan and the Canaanite woman prove he wasn't just talking about the love of your own kind.
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>>68310651
Also,
>old testament
story of how aliens in "pillar of smoke and fire" screwed around with inbred, schizophrenic jews for the lulz.

>your god is a jealous god.
yeah, created the entire universe, but is jealous when a tiny, insignificant group of faggits, from an insignificant planet, in some obscure part of the universe worship stones instead of Him.

>>68310802
So, i don't know how big bang happened.
But you can't prove God exists either.
>inb4 if god is just why he allows evil, etc... you know the classic atheist argument against god.

>>68310884
immaculate conception or whatever, man.

>virgin birth
how is that ever going to happen? Artificial insemination? aliens abducted Mary? so, the greys have been mechanically screwing our women for at least a couple thousand years?
>rising from dead after 3 days
damnit fags, a dead fag is a dead fag, bury him and go to bed.

also, god creates a lame planet first, and then decides whether the planet needs a sky or not?
read genesis and tell me you want to read more then 1st 2 lines.

all religions are bullshit. period.
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>>68311217
Are you willing to explore the possibility that Christianity is true?

If so, please go on YouTube and watch one of Mike Licona's lectures on the resurrection.
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>>68311275
Cool, Harry Potter books have good morals for children too. Check 'em out.
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>>68310400
>something come from nothing
That's an extreme oversimplification and just a single theory among many. We're a long time away from empirically verifying the truth
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>>68311361

>aliens

Oh brother.

>jealous

Human language

>Faggits

Should probably learn how to spell that word if you're going to use it.

>all religions are bullshit. period.

I would feel that way too if I lived in India. No offense my friend but your nation is full of sadness, corruption and poverty. That's a lot of terrible stuff that would turn almost everyone away from God.
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>>68311404

So does Shakespeare, but that has nothing to do with the point of that post.
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>>68311404

Oh, I forgot to mention that the hatred that you feel is the living embodiment of satan himself. It's a living spirit of darkness and evil that infects your soul. Please make the choice to free yourself.
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>>68311361
I just did prove the God exists. You can't explain existence without God.

The argument of evil is a tough one but there are convincing answers. The one that makes the most sense to me is that God allows evil because we have free will. Without free will, we would just be robots and everything would be meaningless. Of course, this argument only works if you don't believe in hard determinism.
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>>68311723
>I just did prove the God exists. You can't explain existence without God.
Maybe. But it doesn't need to be bloodthirsty war-idol of jews.
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>>68311435
It's the only logically consistent answer. If you don't have matter or the universal properties like gravity, then you don't have a universe. Those things don't have their reason for being within themselves.
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>>68311394
>If so, please go on YouTube and watch one of Mike Licona's lectures on the resurrection.
He makes some pretty nice points but completely ignores the most glaring issues.
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>>68311435
i think, "Big bang --> Big crunch --> big bang" pretty much is the best theory. just keep in mind that 99% of atoms are empty space, so, i bet something like a big crunch is quite probable.

>>68311548
nice facts, sir.
apply for a PhD with these.

anyways,
>>aliens
>Oh brother.
i just want to know what you think happened with that "virgin birth" bullshit.
how is that possible?

>>jealous
>Human language
yet, christ-fags take the book as the word of God. [i'll give this though, they are slightly better than mudslimes]

>learn how to spell
it's called sarcasm, but only high-IQ people can understand it so i'll give you a pass.

>your nation is full of sadness, corruption and poverty
>implying India and china haven't been the world leaders for majority of the world history.
yeah, i agree the last few hundred years have not been that nice to the people of this part of the world.
we are trying to make things better. we'll get there soon.

>>68311723
>free will
So, God is all-knowing, he literally knows everything that is to know, yet he allows beings with free-will, knowing full well that people wil kill 2 year olds in name of war. and that war will be fought in God's name.
your god is not smart, man. better go talk to him.

>hard determinism.
but then your God argument crashes and burns.
there is literally no reason for "god" to create universe, especially when he knows free will corrupts.
may be he is a sadist?
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>>68311907
Anon, we're to ignorant of nature to make any positive decision one way or the other. That out of the way, we don't know that our universe is the totality of existence, and a multiverse doesn't exist. If there is a multiverse, the laws of nature in other "universes" are different, and if we lived in one where the weak nuclear, strong nuclear or gravitational forces were off by a point that matter didn't form or we didn't develop as we did, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now
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>>68305441

>Why did they jews kill jesus?

The Pharisees were trying to go along to get along with the Gentiles. In the process jews were assimilating into Roman culture and losing their neurotic tribalism that they call a religion.

Jesus was a racist zealot with a god complex. His radicalism was bad for business. He had to go.
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>>68312193
How about the Cold Case Christianity series where ex cold case detective Warner Wallace applies his trade to Christianity? It's a playlist with 4 videos if you search for it.
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>>68310703
His followers accomplished a lot, hundreds of years later he personally accomplished sweet fuck all. The most significant figure in Christianity is Saul of Tarsus

>>68311225
Why on earth would the Roman military governor (who was later removed from office because he was so very keen on crucifying people) take orders from his own puppets? If he washed his hands of it why did he order a roman state execution, rather than simply allow a (totally justified) religious execution that the sanhedrin were fully within their rights to order? Why did the sanhedrin bring up a religious matter with the roman civil government anyway? The story is retarded, and was written to make romans look like the good guys, because it was written for a roman audience
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>>68312360
>best theory
We don't know shit about dark matter or energy, which constitute 96% of our known universe. We have no idea how general relativity and quantum mechanics connect. Our "best theory" right now is laughably ignorant
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>>68312497
>Our "best theory" right now is laughably ignorant
yeah, sucks not knowing how things work.
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>>68312360
If you know that the stock market will go up 20 points in 2 weeks and it does, did you cause it to go up 20 points? God's foreknowledge does not affect our free will.

Hard determinism is automatically assumed to believe in God but it changes the answer to the problem of evil. Perhaps we are part of a theater performance directed by God.
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>>68312360

>But but but I was only pretending to be retarded.

I have a hard truth that's going to be very difficult for you to accept.

There is no conflict between Science and God. All beneficial science, art, and music is a gift from a loving God who forgives our sins and wants us to prosper.

>free will
>why does God let bad things happen

Apparently you do not understand the concept in a way you can understand.

You have parents. When you were young you lived with them and they protected you.

One day you moved out on your own. You are an adult now and capable of making your own choices, and also of facing the consequences. Your parents can no longer protect you.

Also, the purpose of life is learning and trials.To create a being that is worthy of being with God when we leave this world. Unfortunately part of that process includes suffering.

People say "why does God allow bad things to happen in the world?" But God should be asking the same question of you.
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>>68305441

The Jews killed the same God that freed them from Pharaoh in Egypt and brought down the walls of Jericho. Just think about that.
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>>68312432
>detective
We need a historian here. Going by pure hard evidence christianity is impossible to prove. We have just contradictory testimonies written decades after the fact, only official sources mention only christians themselves, never Christ.
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Because Jesus sits at the right hand of God.

/thread
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>>68312620
We've only been self aware for a few thousand years. I'm positive many civilizations in the last few billion years have wrestled with these same questions we're asking right now. I just hope humanity doesn't go extinct before we find some real answers
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>>68312801
>People say "why does God allow bad things to happen in the world?" But God should be asking the same question of you.

I quite like that.
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It was part of the plan, the Pharisees were the tool, read Isaiah

3 He was despised and rejected[b] by men;
a man of sorrows,[c] and acquainted with[d] grief;[e]
and as one from whom men hide their faces[f]
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he has borne our griefs
and carried our sorrows;
yet we esteemed him stricken,
smitten by God, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions;
he was crushed for our iniquities;
upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,
and with his wounds we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned—every one—to his own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth;
like a lamb that is led to the slaughter,
and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent,
so he opened not his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away;
and as for his generation, who considered
that he was cut off out of the land of the living,
stricken for the transgression of my people?
9 And they made his grave with the wicked
and with a rich man in his death,
although he had done no violence,
and there was no deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him;
he has put him to grief;[g]
when his soul makes[h] an offering for guilt,
he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days;
the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see[i] and be satisfied;
by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant,
make many to be accounted righteous,
and he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many,[j]
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong,[k]
because he poured out his soul to death
and was numbered with the transgressors;
yet he bore the sin of many,
and makes intercession for the transgressors.
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>>68313052
Contradictions you say? Mike Licona (who is a pdh holding historian) talks about this subject often. Look up "Mike Licona: Are there Contradictions in the Gospels?"
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>>68313039
Actually jews were never slaves in Egypt. Story of exodus is not only not supported by any source outside of the bible but it's also impossible. It says about something around three million jews escaping Egypt when it's whole population was probably less than that at this time.
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>>68313319
Does he mention Paul's letters and his version of Jesus that didn't done any miracles?
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The bible clearly states in parable that women are the catalysts for evil. Eve tempted Adam in the Garden. And the snake tempted Eve.

When men are cucked the world goes to hell.
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>>68305441
cuz JEziz was black

dem cracker are da devil
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>>68312749
>God's foreknowledge does not affect our free will.
then he doesn't know shit.
all-knowing, my ugly, shitty, brown ass.
Also, it only proves he was bored and wanted to pass his time.
so he literally cut himself, took tiny pieces, and gave them free will just to see what happens.
pretty bored-sadistic imho.

>>68312801
>pretending
yeah, so, i am not as retarded as i'd like to believe.
ignorance is, indeed, bliss.

>There is no conflict between Science and God
there has to be a God for that.

>beneficial science,
nukes? yeah, hiroshima's people still worship that gift.

>the purpose of life is learning and trials
no, no.
God knows EVERYTHING. yet he creates life, from HIS own, to teach it something? when he himself knew everything? isn't that a very indirect way of doing things?

>To create a being that is worthy of being with God when we leave this world.
>worthy of being with God
i thought we came from him in the first place?
why did we have to leave him?

>when we leave this world.
why did we even have to come to this world?
why did god even have to create us?
why didn't he tell us beforehand that he wanted us to be nice? why does the priest and my human parents have to be the one to tell me that?
if he didn't want us to commit crimes, and do evil, why did he even create us in the first place? i'm sure if i didn't exist, i wouldn't have ever committed any crime.
you are just circlejerking about concepts you have no in-depth knowledge about.
lurk more, faggot [and, i mean, in life].
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>>68313595
>women are the catalysts for evil
so, it would have been better if we were all faggots?
>literally killing an entire species in one generation is the answer to all our problems.
i agree.
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>>68313480
No but watch the video anyways because you'll learn that we have more historical evidence for the reliability of the gospels than for texts like Homer's illiad.

You're objection can be explained by the fast that we are a high context society. Back then, the societies in question were low content. It was assumed that people already has basic knowledge of the subject. They didn't repeat themselves like we do.

Not to mention that Paul hated Jesus and his followers. Why would Paul leave Judaism after a strong objection to Christ to live a life of persecution?
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>>68313761

God gave Adam a friend so he wouldnt be lonely. Not because it was necessary.

Men are created in God's image not women. The proof is how easily swayed women are by the snake instead of God.
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>>68305441
Here's what happened.

>Rome conquers Israel
>Hebrews are more rebellious than the IRA
>various religious figures like John the Baptist often indirectly or directly enflame rebellions
>all these rebellions not good for the Roman occupiers or the Jewish collaborators
>Jesus comes on the scene
>makes statements like "render unto Caesar what is Caesar" which separate him from rabblerousers and rebels
>Jesus ultimately doesn't give a shit about the Roman occupation one way or another, just preaches
>Jewish priest class doesn't like this person who seems to be just another cult leader with some hangers on following him around like the hippies they are
>Tell the Romans Jesus is a destabilizing figure
>Romans are all like "nah ya'll just mad"
>Jewish priest class starts threatening to stop supporting occupation
>Romans are like "whatever"

And that's why Jesus got crucified. It was entirely about politics, not about some stupid blood libel. Jesus saw himself as a Jew and was in fact called "the King of the Jews." Christianity came after Jesus's death and did not exist prior to it.
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>>68314145
>God gave Adam a friend so he wouldnt be lonely
>who was made from Adam himself
and Adam fucked her. and got her pregnant.
and their kids fucked each other.
and their was incest all over the place.
and God saw that it was good.

>yfw incest is God approved.
old testes are bad testes
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>>68306027
The Romans ultimately pulled the trigger, but the Jews loaded the gun.
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>>68313941
>we have more historical evidence for the reliability of the gospels than for texts like Homer's illiad
Fucking duh. Iliad is mostly mythology, fairy tales and pure fiction. Gospels are unreliable because of the time they were written: mark and john were written around half of a century after supposed life of Jesus and given how they are written from third-person perspective they weren't written by direct observers of the things happening. And those are oldest gospels we have, luke is basicly a rewrite of mark, matthew a rewrite of mark and luke.
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>>68314281

Poo in loo...your visions are wrong.
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>>68314627
Are you implying that Adam's children weren't fucking each other? So who they were fucking?
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>>68314145
>Men are created in God's image not women

1. God is a pure-energy, super-soul
2. God creates more souls from himself. [he was bored, may be? to pass time?]
and this ^ is where the image thing comes from.
[yeah, i see, that i am admitting that God exists. but it's only to reply to this >>68314145 post. my overall belief in God still is as elusive as proof for God itself.]
3. angels are bored. god creates matter.
4. galaxies and stars are niec. but angels are bored again.
5. God creates an amalgamation of matter and energy. [e=mc^2]. we call it life.
6. god makes rules for evolution, and voila, we are here fighting over if god even exists or not.

>>68314627
your book is full of bull-shit.
i know shit when i see one, i'm from india.

>>68314755
dubs checked.
>So who they were fucking?
kek.
bestiality is god approved as well, now? damn.
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>>68314755

The people who rule over you today are incests. Are they good? Or are they of Cane?
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the romans did
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Jesus was killed by the efforts of a small group of elite Jews (Pharisees).

The descendents of these elite Jews now rule the world and are responsible for Cultural Marxism and the deaths of millions to Communism...let that sink in. I'm sure they have planned more in store for us.

BUT THE LORD SAYS,"THIS TOO SHALL PASS!"
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>>68315377

Romans who were ordered by jews.

Just like today America is Israel's war hammer.
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>>68315521
i dont think thats true
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>>68306267
Everything Mel Gibson does is pure gold, even his voice mails.
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>>68315377

So unbelievably wrong.
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>>68314544
I meant that the copies we have of the gospel are more numerous and more abundant than those of any ancient text. We can be quite sure that they are not forged. All gospels were written around the time that eye witnesses would be alive. All the books of the NT were written by 125 AD which is closer to the life of Jesus than all other historical texts from around that time period are to the events they describe.

Please commit to watching thatvvideo, just that one. I have to go now but I hope that I have been of some use to you. Have a nice day and may Christ reveal himself to you.
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>>68305441
Jews are gonna jew!
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>>68315377
>>68315584

The Romans tried not to. Jesus didn't actually break any laws, so there was no reason for the Romans to crucify him. This is even written in the Bible by people who considered themselves Jews at the time.
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>>68305441
>>68315377
>>68315884

Let's not forget that Jesus Christ himself said who was to blame...

http://biblehub.com/john/19-11.htm

>Falling for what Jewish apologists have to say
>Falling for what the Catholics have to say
>Not reading your bible

IT WAS THE JEWS
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>>68315584
How did that Lebron James hug feel?

Jews.
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>>68313667
>He doesn't know shit
Have your parents knowingly let you make a mistake so you can learn? Same way it's functioning here.One way to learn is to make mistakes and know why that was a mistake.
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>>68315584
>>68316013

READ THE STORY BEFORE YOU MAKE ASSERTIONS

THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WE HAVE ON THIS SUBJECT TELLS YOU CLEARLY WHO DID IT
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>>68316143
>Have your parents knowingly let you make a mistake so you can learn?
my point is - God didn't have to cut himself in the first place to make all life, so that that life could go on and make glaring mistakes later.
Explain what god was thinking when he looked at his "perfect" self and thought, "well, you know what, i think i'll make beings from my self and see how soon they kill each other. it'll be fun!"

why are bible-humpers about as as bad as Quran-humpers?
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>>68316433

Why do men who have spent that past 20 years of their life strengthen themselves only at the peak of their health and virility to go and create another weakling?

Because this nobility comes from the urge to create and it actively seeks it's expression through sexual desire.
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Jews are using islam to kill the west (white people) (Christianity). And in doing so will kill Islam. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone
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>>68316901

This. It has always been a battle of faiths.

Read the Old Testament, it is a story of history as we know it. Those of weaker faith are always delivered into the hands of the stronger. Morality has nothing to do with it. It's all about faith and action.
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>>68309103
>Not praising Caesar
No Jew praised the God-Emperor, and they weren't forced to for the God-Emperor was a benevolent God.
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