At some point, isn't it just denial?
>>68296242
ohh, man, that guy was funny
Polls are meaningless.
>>68296572
"Romney in a landslide"
>national polls project how the electoral college will turn out
>>68296803
Exactly, Romney was winning in the polls at the end
>>68296242
>muh polls
get fucked nigger
>>68296993
>Romney in a landslide 2.0
>>68297180
>>national polls project how the electoral college will turn out
>>68297036
>Romney in a landslide: the sequel
>>68297166
but the polls is all that Trump cites
>>68296242
Hopeful scenario, trump landslide, likely scenario, republicans go against trump and claim him as Hilary puppet. Hilary president,vgoodbye amrica.
>>68297253
>Romney in a landslide: The return
>>68297276
>national polls project how the electoral college will turn out
>>68297423
>national polls project how the electoral college will turn out
Let's just look at who voted so far.
>>68297493
>Romney in a landslide 2: Revenge of the Mexicans
op status: stumped
>>68297921
>turnout in overwhelmingly red states (except VA and MA)
>relevant
>>68297652
If Wisconsin Michigan and New Hampshire go to trump, he's won.
how do these general election polls work? it's something that has always puzzled me
how come some bums like kasich or rubio win against sanders and shillary in these polls when they can't even win the nomination? what's the logic here?
>>68298103
Tx and ok voted cruz as well.
It's not as good as we think.
>>68297652
Primary voters aren't the only people to vote in the general, some states have closed primaries where independents can't vote. So looking at the voter turnout in the primaries is somewhat meaningless,
>>68296242
>>68298656
they randomly poll people nationally which is fucking retarded because the only places that matter are florida ohio and like pennsylvania
polls there are immensely better at predicting the general than national polls are
>>68298491
Going by individual state polls, hillary is currently winning ohio, virgina, Pennsylvania and florida against trump
Trump could possibly lose utah and georgia against trump since Hillary has shown surprising strength with black voters.
>>68298656
>how do these general election polls work? it's something that has always puzzled me
they ask respondents if an election took place right now, who they would vote for
it's not rocket science
>>68297652
>louisiana
>democrat
pick one
>>68296572
/pol/ is meaningless.
>>68298103
Trump earned more votes in Ohio with his 2nd place finish than Shillary that won.
>>68297921
>using 2008
>not 2012
Weird.
>>68299107
Because most democrats don't really care who wins.
Repubs are divides and voting against other candidates
>>68298737
Trump is not only winning with independents but trump will pull in 20% of Democrats compared to Shillary's 14% of Republicans.
>>68298975
Your post doesn't make any sense, I hope you realize this
>>68298812
>>68298656
Polls don't matter at this point because people will give the answer that seems the "correct" one. Once Trump is the nominee things will change rapidly.
>>68297036
Karl Rove still thinks Romney won Ohio
>>68296242
>m-muh projections
Literally political meteorology.
>>68296242
I miss ol' Baghdad Bob. What's he up to these days?
>>68299210
Democrat turnout is abysmal this cycle. Dems are delusional if they think they will somehow magically get some sort of 11th hour voter surge.
>>68299157
Why would Democrats vote in a primary with an incumbent candidate?
>>68299157
last time there was open nomination contests on both sides
>>68298709
you think Texas would go blue? cmon now...
>>68299157
I'm guessing because in 2012 it was incumbent v challenger and 2008 was two new candidates like this cycle
>>68296242
Man, I can just taste the Trump tears.
>>68297464
Carter was a steady decline. Hillary is growing
Why is General Donaire in this picture?
>>68299157
>Democrats voting in the primaries for an incumbent.
weird
Because the government one party system continues with Hilary or CRUZ
Voting for anyone other than trump is taking a 2 point shot when your down 3, it's a waste and it's what the rulers want
Trump is the three pointer
Take the fucking shot and don't be a coward afraid to miss
>>68296242
Now that's a face I haven't seen in a long time.
>>68299747
hillary was up by like 40 points when trump first announced
>>68299451
Democrats are going to unite like bees to stop "literally Hitler"
>>68297921
>Primary results are correlated to G.E.
im starting to hate canada more than Australia
>>68299880
Cruz is far less establishment than Trump
specially given that Cruz never donated to Hillary
>>68296242
Can't believe Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf is unemployed. He was the best spin doctor ever.
Is announcements were short of him telling the press the US Army was 100miles away and we seeing Abrams in the background.
All that confidence and panache.
Give that guy a salesman job or something.
Does anyone have a transparent overlay of Baghdad Bob?
>>68296242
I'll worry when democratic primary turnout isn't BTFO by republican primary turnout
>>68299988
Hillary has had a led over 20 points to Trump. i think you misread some poll
>>68300019
Hes a puppet like every single other mediahead/politician who is fighting him
Harder than communism
>>68296242
How does the electoral college work?
>>68299988
It's easier for Trump to make an impression among Republicans than swing voters and Democrats
>>68300058
Democrats dont have record turnouts simply because most of them are happy with both Sanders and Hillary outside of a few reddit fags
Polls literally mean nothing unless those polls are done days before the election. Look at my poor country. Nobody saw Weedman winning, but the polls reflected it a week or two before. Every other poll before had that little cuck behind everyone else.
>>68300019
why do you think he donated to her? Keep in mind he also donated to lying Ted
>>68300202
are you seriously an American asking this question
>>68300158
He has an actual voting record and it is quite right-wing
trump does not have one
>>68300202
The electoral college disfavors republicans because of the concentration of population in blue states
I mean, if /pol/ supports a candidate then they're going to lose
>McCain
>Romney
>Rand
Now Trump, this board is always reliable at being wrong.
A huge portion of the electorate wouldn't even dare admit they would support a man like Trump a year ago. Now you've got 40% of the population saying they would, before he's even the last candidate standing on the Republican side.
I think he stands a good chance, because I think a lot of people aren't willing to openly admit they would support him in national polls because they're scared cucks. But once they see that he's got so much support, and it's just him and Shillary on that stage- I think things are going to get close. Real close. And possibly closer still depending on who the VP choices are.
>>68300392
he donated to her because his position has been closer to democrats until he randomly decided to become republican a few years ago
>>68296242
Even Clinton says she doesn't care about those polls at this stage
>>68300494
> /pol/
> McCain
wut
>>68300213
I'm a registered democrat and a member of the Never Hillary camp. Once they threw Bernie under the bus for that lying piece of shit, I decided (along with many of my friends) to vote for whatever the fuck Republicans threw our way.
I don't even like Bernie, but I both hate Hillary and hate the blatant attempts by the party to bury any candidate that isn't Hillary.
>>68300414
Rhetorical question
>>68300058
eye candy
>>68300565
> a lot of people aren't willing to openly admit they would support him in national polls because they're scared cucks.
trump has not overperformed many polls as that would assume
i.e. Lousiana was a lot closer than expected, and Kasich overperformed over Trump in Ohio
>>68298975
Sure, but people aren't considering the presidential debates. Trump will wipe the floor with Hilary unless he's seen as racist...really is standing on eggshells.
Hilary could get niggers in Florida and Georgia,but trump could get workers and land owners in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire, maybe even New York....
America is changing.
>>68300813
even when he's ahead i haven't trusted any polls.
national or state polls
all we can do is wait and see.
>>68301195
>Trump will wipe the floor with Hilary
there is no evidence of that
the debates actually hurt him a lot, which is shown by him consistently losing late voters
>>68297325
Bill Nye still thinks Gore won Florida.
>>68299368
I wouldn't be surprised really. Not a Romney fan but Ohio be corrupt as fuck.
>>68301195
The fact that you think hillary will lose to trump in a debate says it all.
Trump in a landslide (loss)
>Polls better against Trump NOW
>TRUMP BTFO
That's not how elections work.
Wait till those two debate. It's gonna be fucking funny when she gets schlonged, big league.
>>68302009
+5 to +10 is not better
look at the timeline
Hillary is a rapist enabler, dike, and an all out liar.
>>68298709
You could put a fucking retarded 4 year old as our only option for president in Oklahoma and as long as it's affiliated with the republican party, we will vote for it.
>>68301742
> Bernout cuck riding the Shillary coattails
> Implying dog barks and cough attacks aren't keks to be had when Trump hits her with Benghazi, Bill scandals, putrid record as Secretary
Lel nice b8 Cuckington
>>68301742
Hilary can't even agree with herself.
Trump has been consistent and sensible. America is not THIS stupid,surely?
Weren't the democrats the conservative populist party back then?
What in the fuck happened
How did it turn into this trotskyite shit
>>68297464
>Hillary's not running for reelection
>There is no inflation being caused by OPEC
>Barack Obama will campaign for Hillary and he's only getting more popular.
>>68300663
Trump thinks they matter
>>68302201
Romney was on pace to beat Obama according to pre-debate polls
>>68300613
He donated to everyone that could benefit him. Regardless of position.
>>68302604
I didn't say he didn't
>>68296242
>Trump is losing to hillary even though he is the clear frontrunner
>Lubio, Cruz and Kasich are "beating" hillary in these polls even though they are way behind in votes and delegates and have lost to Trump
Somebody explain this retardation please
>>68302499
> Trump has been consistent .
Come fucking on
he was for iraq, then he wasn't, then he was for troops on the ground, now he is for armying syrian rebels
he was for amnesty, then he was for deportation, then he was for touchback; he was for H1B visas, then his side wasn't, and he was and then wasn't
he is a conservative christian except when he isn't
he was for affirmative action and attacked Scallia over that... then he wasn't and believed that Scallia was a great judge... and then he was again for AA
the only issue where he is consistent is trade
>>68302671
again, the electoral college means democrats will do better than expected
the same does not apply to republicans, which only has one reliable delegate-rich state (Texas)
>>68302834
>he was for iraq, then he wasn't
Bad way to put it. A year before the iraq war started he enthusiastically voiced potential support. But the answer was non committal. By the time the war was actually going to happen he was firmly against it.
>>68296242
Just as planned.
>>68302499
Minimum age, Iraq, Libya, Refugees, worker visas etc
>>68303078
you're fucking stupid
>>68302953
You act like a Republican can't win in blue states.
Trump can win those states against Hillary. And if he gets a conservative VP, his odds of winning increase.
>>68303005
Never at any moment did Trump say he was against the Iraq war before it started. Trump only voiced opposition against it when it became clear it was a disaster.
He's already closing the gap
Stay mad shills
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/filters/PD1:1,LIKELY:1/dates/20160307-20160318/type/day
>>68303078
fuck off kike, he's a businessman, he gets along with everyone
>>68302573
>Reagan
>reelection
>1980
>>68303284
It is extremely hard, because those blue states are full of demented white people that take pride in hating rednecks that they have never interacted with, while glorifying minorities they only see in TV ads
I think that red americans REALLY need to look into secession
The only republican winning enough swing states (Ohio and Florida) to win the election is Kasich and he is a democrat in every sense of the concept
>>68299997
And republicans are going to unite like ants to stop "literally obama"
>>68302754
George.
Soros.
...
>>68303873
if "stopping Obama" was a politically powerful drive, Romney would have won in 2012 when unemployment was still 6 %
Short of a miracle, how are republicans going to win when Virginia has been gone twice by Obama and Hillary is leading all republicans?
>>68302754
it is very simple: Hillary is toxic
But Trump has been demonized into Satan
Mind you, what is wrong with Cruz? He is Trump without the memes
>>68296993
>>68296803
>>68296572
>>68297166
"The polls are only right when Trump wins!1!!"
>>68300478
Most of the anti-Cruz rhetoric are just memes, he's a pretty good conservative.
>>68299422
He lives in Dubai, he gave a written interview in 2010. His name is Mohammed Said Al Saef. If you want to look him up. He's broke from what I last read about him.
>>68302546
Grover Cleveland couldn't unfuck the panic and effectively started the death of conservatism in the Democratic Party.
After that it's Wilson and FDR's progressive shenanigans that laid down the groundwork for the modern M.O. for the Democrats.
Wallace, as the rest of the Southern Democrats during the 50s and 60s and so on, were actually outliers by their time kept together only by the Southern public's favor for the Democrats ever since their presence in the South during the 1800s, of which didn't match up with the main part of the party was heading towards.
>>68304574
Agreed. Donald is good for some memes but /pol/s real candidate is Cruz. People fall for the satire kek
>>68304368
He is literally in bed with goldman sachs.
(His wife is an exec there).
>>68305356
I don't think it's satire, people really like Trump, I like him too, but I still voted for Cruz in the primary. I think Cruz would make a fantastic president on policy alone and he is strong on the border as well.
>>68296242
>yfw berntards will vote for trump since clinton is berning them
>yfw independents generally swing to the outsiders
>yfw republicans have 4x the voter turnout thus far
>tfw trump has more votes so far than all the dems combined
>>68304574
>>68305356
Warning /pol/, shills are in full drive today
>>68304368
>>68305426
Cruz is a phony, globalist shill. He's about as insider as you can get. Neocon to the bone, only picked up his jesus pandering, tea party schtick because he felt it was the best way for him to gain as much power and influence as possible, as quickly as possible. He was right.
Just look at him and listen to him talk, he's incredibly fake and it's amazing that people are too dumb to see it. I'd vote for Hillary over Cruz, I'd vote for Obama over Cruz. I can't think of anyone worse for the people than Cruz, honestly. He'll sell us down the river for sure.
Trump is destined to lose against Hillary, you guys won't accept it but Hillary played you all for fools.
>>68305718
bro I'm serious, what happened, I thought we were trying to take down Soros
>>68305718
Oh shut up and have an intelligent debate for once in your god damned life.
>hey Cruz has been a real conservative in Congress and the establishment hatred of him is proof that he isn't a sell out
REEEEEEEEEE SHILLLL
fucking retard
>"""""""""""""""""""""""subtle"""""""""""""""""""""""""
you didn't even try
>>68296572
Yeah just like they were meaningless when The Rotmitron was going to rape obongo. /pol/ goes full retard when it comes to election times.
>>68305821
>I'd vote for Hillary over Cruz, I'd vote for Obama over Cruz.
You are kidding right?
He has not sold you down anything, he has an A+ record in NumbersUSA on immigration control and a voting record to support it
>>68306296
He thinks gays should unironically be killed.
>>68306423
I thought /pol/ hates fags?
damn, this site sucks during election cycles
>>68306423
Nice try super-shill
>>68306525
Hating fags and wanting people to die are two different things.
Also, 1/3 of the user base here is probably gay or, at the very least, bi.
>>68306536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN1IXDrXgV0
>>68296242
The primary isn't even over yet, and Trump hasn't even started to properly attack Shillary.
>>68306211
By this logic Hilary will wind up losing in spite of the polls saying otherwise.
>>68304442
You're a weird and insane little obsessive canacuck. Maybe find something better to do with your time, fuckface.
The DNC will not nominate Sanders why??
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
>>68306166
>funnyjunk
>9gag
>hardcore
>>68306764
Doesn't prove your point, just some crazy preacher
>>68306988
because he isn't winning?
>>68307206
Who Ted has voiced unwavering support to.
>>68307217
And what does the DNC plan on doing if Clinton gets indicted, hmm?
>>68306988
Sanders has no name recognition
I believe he would crash once people actually get to know him
>>68307421
>brings up something that won't happen to make a point
>implying they wouldn't pick bernie if hillary got indicted before she got the nomination
>smuganimegirl.jpg
>>68306988
Though while Shillary is leading is mostly thanks to winning all the Southern states by WIDE margins. She lost 8 from the other 12 states that already voted and won Ohio by a small margin.
So the question that begs to mind is how will shillary perform in states that don't look demographically or politically or racially like the south. If Sanders (big IF though) keeps the performance he has on the non southern states on the rest of america he should ended up gaining more delegates than Shillary and win over the almost 270 delegate lead Shilarry has.
That is a big IF though, we will know for sure with the elections that come up to NY, if Sanders is going to win or lose the election will be decided on NY.
>Implying GE polls mean absolutely anything rn
>>68307687
If the AG decides not to indict, the FBI revolts. It'll be a big mess. Lynch has a reason to go forward.
It is. But autists who browse here just can't seem to admit what's going to happen. You'll be stuck with Hilary.
>>68297180
>>68304442
>look i said romney so i win
>>68308095
you still haven't answered why they wouldn't choose the only other person running if hillary has to drop out before she is nominated
>muh underdog meme
>>68308108
Again, the general election hasn't even started yet.
>>68306988
because those polls are total shit
Let’s be honest - Donald Trump is a loser. Count all his failed businesses. See how he kept his father’s empire afloat by cheating people with scams like Trump University and by using strategic corporate bankruptcy (excuse me, bankruptcies) to skip out on debt. Listen to the experts who’ve concluded he’s so bad at business that he might have more money today if he’d put his entire inheritance into an index fund and just left it alone.
Trump seems to know he’s a loser. His embarrassing insecurities are on parade: petty bullying, attacks on women, cheap racism, and flagrant narcissism. But just because Trump is a loser everywhere else doesn’t mean he’ll lose this election. People have been underestimating his campaign for nearly a year – and it’s time to wake up.
People talk about how "this is the most important election" in our lifetime every four years, and it gets stale. But consider what hangs in the balance. Affordable college. Accountability for Wall Street. Healthcare for millions of Americans. The Supreme Court. Big corporations and billionaires paying their fair share of taxes. Expanded Social Security. Investments in infrastructure and medical research and jobs right here in America. The chance to turn our back on the ugliness of hatred, sexism, racism and xenophobia. The chance to be a better people.
More than anyone we’ve seen before come within reach of the presidency, Donald Trump stands ready to tear apart an America that was built on values like decency, community, and concern for our neighbors. Many of history’s worst authoritarians started out as losers – and Trump is a serious threat. The way I see it, it’s our job to make sure he ends this campaign every bit the loser that he started it.
>>68308278
Gee, I donno. I was hoping you can tell me. I have yet to hear any of the democratic top dogs answer that question.
>>68305031
Would it be possible for some Trump like, or Wallace like dude to take over the Dems and make them conservative again?
Or is it too late
>>68308344
>>68308382
That means Trump can still win?
>>68296242
>pre-convention general election polls
This meme must end.
>>68296803
not one president has had one term in the white house since Jimmy Carter. Of course Obama won.
>in be4 Bush. He had three terms in the white house 2 as VP 1 as president.
Your just converting yourself.
>>68308443
here's your (You)
kill yourself
>>68307768
NY is Hillary's advantage, as well as Cali. Hispanics like Hillary more than Sanders
>>68304442
just step back for a second and imagine it would have been four years of R-Money instead of Obongo. What place would the US be in now?
>>68311467
Realistically no different, corporate shill types are no different except that one pretends he cares about the darkies
Literally come back here when the general election starts and a few debates have happened.
Until that point this topic is complete garbage.
>>68311762
This all the way to the bank.
At least the polls Trump cites are a few weeks or days before the election will happen in a certain state.
These polls are projecting something over half a year away.
>>68298103
>I-it doesn't matter how many people vote for a candidate over another!
At this point is it just denial?
>>68296803
>>68297180
>>68297276
>>68297423
>>68297712
The very same polls that showed Romney winning in 2012 now show Clinton winning in 2016. The polls were wrong then and are likely wrong again now.
I'm not getting where these shitposts are supposed to be directed at? You stumped yourself.
>>68302546
Neoconservative are former Trotskies, the lot of 'em.
>>68296242
>Same time of year: 1980
>Reagan wasn't even the front runner.
>Pic related
We all know how that turned out. Your meme is stale and moldy.
>>68312383
They are directed at retards like yourself that have deluded themselves into thinking a right wing lunatic can win an election yet again despite the polls showing he loses big time.
>>68312383
>The very same polls that showed Romney winning in 2012 now show Clinton winning in 2016.
so what ur saying is everybody should be taking screenshots librul posts for tears later?
yall ready for this
>>68312789
>Trump
>right wing lunatic
I like this meme. The man is more liberal and closer to the middle than the other conservatives on the GOP stage, at least when compared to Cruz.
There you go, assuming I'm just one of those /pol/acks that think a Trump presidency is guaranteed. I know the odds are it's either going to be a really close race or Shillary winning. But I'm still voting for Trump no matter what. Your COINTELPRO tactics of trying to discourage a voter is not going to work here.
I'll never vote for that cunt Hillary by the way. Trump all the way even if he loses.
>>68313100
Primary results do not correlate with general election results, dumbass
>>68313059
No, plus I'm not the type to gather screenshots.
>>68313100
babby's first election
>>68296242
Clinton herself said on CNN today that polls this far out don't mean shit
>>68313412
Horrible post, shill. I doubt you'll get paid your $0.16 for it.
It shows that there's a surge in support for Republicans and a lack of motivation for the Democucks. Nobody wants Shillary. I doubt you do but you'll take the 16 cents per post to shill for her on a paleolithic hunter gathering berry painting image board.
>>68313615
>He doesn't understand what shifts in support for each party are when compared to the historical past
>>68314628
whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night
>>68314809
I'll be laffin when you are forced to get a real job and Trump Makes America Great Again
>>68314918
i'll be laffin like i was in 2012 when people like you actually thought romney was gonna win
>>68296242
As far as I can tell, there are a lot of moving parts.
If nothing bad happens to Hillary from now on, then Hillary wins easily. But Hillary is exactly the sort of candidate that something bad is likely to happen to. Trump might know about a Clinton scandal he's been keeping up his sleeve. Or Hillary might push the feminism button too hard and alienate men of all races.
I am a trump supporter but I have accepted the fact that neither trump nor Cruz have a shot against her. If they win, I'd go 'huh he pulled it off.'
>>68305681
I'm going to vote for Trump no matter what, but what I really want to see is how much of a pain in the ass the battle between Trump and Hillary is going to be for her. Trump's been adapting to the press's negative coverage of him. He's practically wallowing in it, and he's still able to maintain support.
>>68315159
Hillary is about to make big big errors. Her husband came out today talking shit about Obama. Trump is slowly making policy moves that are forming his positions on more than just immigration in order to shore up his base and offer a clear path to the White House. The DNC is in complete shambles and many state parties are gutted while the RNC just has to maintain.
The Democrats need what amounts to a miracle to gain the ruling majority they need.
>>68305837
We'd have to accept it either way, but we cannot back down from the candidate we fell in love with after he said those things about Mexico. /pol/ was flipping out over his numbers going up from it, but we've moved past that by now.
Honestly, I'll vote for him if he wins or loses. My dad wanted to vote for Al Gore back in 2000 because he didn't want another Bush in the White House, despite being a Republican.
>>68296242
It has been denial from the start.
>>68311360
Then it is done for Sanders, but people said the same about Nevada but Shilarry was going to win by 10-15 and ended up winning by 5. Also NYC is liberal as hell, the same as LA and other Cali cities. Sanders does significantly better with the self described as liberals, while he does poorly with the self described democrats (usually older people).
NY voted for Hilarry because she wasn't against a more liberal candidate, I doubt there is a more liberal candidate than Sanders, well maybe Elizabeth Warren. So I wouldn't rule out a Sander win in NY but we need more polling data to say for sure.
