>tfw this guy is the perfect conservafu and even more hated than Trump by libturds and establishment reptiles
>>68270218
>even more hated
>>68270218
I probably agree with Cruz on policy more than I agree with Trump. But I just don't trust Cruz.... Nothing seems genuine.
Get off the Trump train before it derails and take a CRUZ to a real conservative victory this fall
>electing a cultist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNa5w9js48s
>electing a Goldman Whore
>still thinking conservatism is anything more than absolute shit teir ideology
>>68270921
>being a disgusting parasitic communist traitor
Move to the EU if you want to experience a nightmarish descent into communism, don't take all of us with you
>>68270218
Which is why I want him as Trump's VP.
>>68270921
(you)
>>68271874
Ask yourself this, what did conservatism actually conserve for the benefit of the USA?
>>68270218
>tell the goyim what they want to hear
>do what the real masters want anyway
works every time
>>68270218
>The Bush family is managing his money
>Goldman Sachs is providing half his household income
>The Mormon Church and Glenn Beck literally think he's a prophesy
>He handed out teddy bears to criminal invaders
>He eats his boogers
>>68272010
Conservatism never succeeds in any country. All it does is slow the process of inevitable decline and destruction.
>>68271874
>social democracy=communism
lol, sure m8. Market socialism is the future of the united states and britian, either we embrace it or let ourselves regress to the failures of capitalism.
>>68270218
>>68270218
Hated more? Doubtful, but maybe. Feared more? Not even close.
>>68270218
Cruz's policies are sound, he's just not the man that can execute them with power.
Cruz would be a great wingman for Trump - policy-wise, they almost agree entirely.
>>68272237
Democractis socialism is socialism that's voted into office instead of requiring a violent revolution.
Now shut the fuck up while your betters are conversing, nigger.
>>68272010
If were talking actual conservatism and not whatever neo-con strawman you have in mind, its conserved the founding ideals of meritocracy and self determination in the face of increased socialist tendencies, and its served as a bulwark in defense of the constitution and states rights in an age where liberals and neocons repeatedly disregard basic liberties and the intentions of the founders- its the only modern american ideology that our ancestors wouldn't be disgusted with
>>68270921
Trump isnt a conservative
>>68270921
>establisment
come on
>>68270218
>perfect conservafu
>Canadian running for President
>using the same rhetoric as the extreme left against Trump
>considering a joint "Unity ticket" with a Soros backed shill
>now running exclusively on a "stop Trump/brokered convention" platform
>the Establishment will throw him under a bus at the convention too anyway
A vote for the Boogerman is a vote for Hillary. If the Establishment gets the brokered convention they want they will throw every candidate under the bus and force someone like Jeb on us instead.
>>68272544
>policy-wise, they almost agree entirely.
No the fuck they don't. Their similarities begin and end with immigration.
>>68270921
Is this the Reddit edit? The libshit technique of copy and pasting the opponents argument while drawing their shit over it?
>>68272657
Socialism is defined by relations to the means of production.
What you just described is entryism, a Trotskyist tactic, not an ideology in of itself. Democratic socialism is market socialism plus some aspects of social democracy.
>>68272861
Well, that may have been an incorrect way to phrase it - their policies are somewhat similar.
>>68272010
money
leftypol pls leave
>>68272237
>we have this argument 9000 times a second
>not getting raided by reddit
You have to go back
Call it whatever you want, you are taking according to ability and giving according to need- its communisms most basic tenant and its diametrically opposed to the ideals the country was founded on. Socialism is a transitory phase as Marx himself said repeatedly, it will inevitably lead to full blown communism, all it takes is one misguided 'revolution' that you historically illiterate bernouts are already clamoring for. Socialism is to communism as HIV is to AIDS.
I agreed with Cruz more than any other candidate on that one political test website. He's exactly what we need, on paper, but he's a lying rat and I wouldn't trust him to hold my wallet. I hope he scurries back into his hole after he loses.
>>68272817
>>considering a joint "Unity ticket" with a Soros backed shill
No he isn't
>>now running exclusively on a "stop Trump/brokered convention" platform
He has called repeatedly for Kasich to drop out, just as Trump has
>>using the same rhetoric as the extreme left against Trump
No he's not. If anything he's echoed Trump's sentiment of revolt in the case of a contested convention.
This is why people hate Trumpettes like you. You do none of your individual research and just parrot idiots like yourself.
>>68272687
and how well has it succeeded in keeping that stance for the past 50 years at least? Because what i'm seeing is that it's a mind controlled zombie with no goals being led by a pack of wolves to a endless descending mountain with jagged rocks on it.
>>68270218
>and even more hated than Trump by libturds and establishment reptiles
That's why Ted's rallies are being blocked by liberals, the media is running a smear campaign against him 24/7 and Mitt Romney is threatening to split the party if Cruz wins the nomination, right?
>>68272209
Jejeje. Indeed. MAGA
>>68270392
And the man that spent his time in the 80's and 90's fighting with magazines because they valued his worth too low, the flip flopper liberal turned conservative is to be trusted?
He's only thinking about himself. He sees a divide in the country and is taking full advantage of the opportunity to solidify his name in history as president instead of the asshole old man everyone loves to hate. You think this is the guy that's going to take you into consideration? The guy who's entire business strategy for every business he's always had is always "let's make it as extravagant as possible".
>>68273419
It's lost ground in the past 50 years because liberals gained control of public education and universities and began brainwashing impressionable children over to their side. Your vague analogy doesn't constitute an argument
>>68273154
>no meanie lefists on muh echo chamber bord >:^
>>68273223
Market socialism is about getting workers the full value of their labor and eliminating the parasitic capitalist class.
It is a transitory phase in the same way capitalism is a transitory phase to socialism. And regardless, communism itself is only possible in a post-scarcity society. What you are probably thinking of as communism is in fact state capitalism, which while falling short of being communism, did industrialize the second world where normal capitalism had failed.
>>68270921
Look at what a paradise Sweden is if you think that conservatism is bad. Limiting the effect of really shitty changes is a terrible ideology.
>>68270218
>Cruz is more anti establishment than Trump
I don't think so Chaim.
>>68273841
DUDE GULAGS LMAO
DUDE LAUGHING DEAD COMMUNISTS LMAO
any country would be lucky to have cruz or trump
but cruz has no path to the nomination and a wasted vote on him will get you neither cruz or trump
be careful ameritards
>>68270921
Wait that pic isn't actually real right? Someone is actually that assbackwards to think that?
>>68273892
Go look at Honduras or Turkey if you think conservatism is a good thing. See, I can play this game too.
>>68273950
his Dad does literally think that the church should be in charge of the government. that's pretty different.
>>68274321
It's also pretty fucking stupid
>>68270218
They only fear him because he wants Christian theocracy and that scares the fags and degenerates.
>>68273824
Then why haven't they pushed back years ago? Why are they STILL fucking up after they have taken full control of the one of the three branches of the US government? Why are they still afraid to speak out against what's actually killing our country? Why did it take a businessman to finally stand up for themselves and still trip over each other?
What the fuck has it actually conserved for the past 50 years?
Isn't Cruz being supported by Mitt Romney, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, etc.?
He's got some really shitty supporters. Unlike the Duke nonsense, these people are actually relevant to go along with how repulsive they are.
>>68274186
>trump isn't a narcissistic capitalist
>he a good boy
>he care about me and all the workers and poors
>>68274321
>the church
What do protestants even mean when they say this?
>>68274273
You now what makes the situation of Honduras and Turkey really different from Sweden? They were always really shitty and sucked. Tell me a country that got alot better because of Socialism. America would be much better if dems didn't try to fuck up our country with that cancerous ideology.
>>68273841
>eliminating the parasitic capitalist class
You mean jews? you can't get rid of jews with laws.
You end up destroying the job market because you're punishing every business in the country with socialist policies, only the biggest companies can survive all the red tape. Bernies not gonna do shit about immigration and he certainly won't implement any nationalist/protectionist measures to keep busines in the country since he's a globalist, which is completely incompatible with socialism because no business in their right mind would hire expensive as fuck socialist american labor when they can hire mexicans and malaysians. nationalist socialism is the only remotely viable form, and bernie aint no uncle adolf
btw capitalism isn't a transitory phase the way socialism is because its actually sustainable, at least in a culturally/racially homogenous community that isn't inept at electing proper representation. no economic system can survive globalism/multiculturalism.
>>68274881
Honduras has gotten 90% shittier after the right wing coup, and Turkey has gotten at least 74% shittier after Erdogan took a hard right turn.
>Tell me a country that got alot better because of Socialism.
>what is literally any country in the second world
>what is cuba
>democrats are socialists
don't make me laugh
Ted Cruz is just another establishment rat. He was a Bush campaign lawyer, and then a Bush Administration official, and then he used his Bush connections to land a government job in Texas. Now he has Neil Bush, Jeb and W's kid brother, working on his campaign team, and he's filled his advisor positions with Bushies. He is a disgusting goddamn Bush politician. He's a fake "outsider".
The only reason his colleagues hate him is because he's a terrible person and he's unpleasant to be around. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with his politics. Nobody likes him because he is an unlikable man. He's a rotten piece of shit and so is his treasonous cunt wife.
>>68274696
Again, conservatism as an ideology isn't whatever neo-con strawman you think it is. I'm assuming these questions are rhetorical since they're too asinine to actually address (again).
>>68275309
Really? Cuba is absolute shit and so are all the socialist hellholes in the EU.
>>68270218
tfw no
>>68275375
It isn't a strawman when the ideology has conserved fuck all.
At this point I'll be very happy to get proven wrong with proof but you haven't shown me shit.
Either GIVE ME evidence conservatism has benefitted the USA for 50 years, or you're just showing to me that it's a dead end ideology that should've been replaced before I was born.
>>68275095
>You mean jews? you can't get rid of jews with laws.
You could kill every jew on earth and nothing would change economically.
>You end up destroying the job market because you're punishing every business in the country with socialist policies, only the biggest companies can survive all the red tape
>Being this ignorant about what market socialism is
It's literally co-ops, worker ownership of enterprise. There isn't any more red tape, just a transference of ownership.
> Bernies not gonna do shit about immigration and he certainly won't implement any nationalist/protectionist measures to keep busines in the country since he's a globalist
>Sanders
>a globalist
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/bernie-sanders-explodes-a-right-wing-myth-open-borders-no-thats-a-koch-brothers-proposal/
>nationalist socialism is the only remotely viable form, and bernie aint no uncle adolf
>national socialism
>being socialism
>btw capitalism isn't a transitory phase the way socialism is because its actually sustainable
lol m8, capitalism is incredibly unstable, why do you think we have a recession every 7 years, for fun?
>muh multiculturalism meme
leftists aren't liberals.
>>68275535
It's still an improvement from where it started, healthcare and education improved incredibly under castro.
Also, there are no longer any socialist countries in Europe, just social democracies.
>>68270921
bad edit is bad
>>68275906
>You could kill every jew on earth and nothing would change economically
9/10 you had me going, you guys must be operating at like 7 layers of irony i cant keep up
>>68275309
I am guessing you did not see the picture of Sanders before incorrectly saying that dems are not socialists. Hilary wants to expand Obamacare which is pretty socialisty to me.
Also, you think Cuba is a shining star of Socialism ? Its as shitty a place as it has ever been. Even more oppressive for the people living there. People were not fleeing Fidel Castro's Cuba for no reason.
I would normally not give a shit about idiots opinions but after Bernie, retards like you are gaining traction. Pls Leave America and make it better.
>>68276582
>>68276960
DUDE AGAHAHAHAA PORKY HAHAHAHAHA DUDE LEFTYPOL MEMES LMAO
>>68276743
>Hilary wants to expand Obamacare which is pretty socialisty to me.
>a mandate to use PRIVATE insurance is socialist
LMAO
> People were not fleeing Fidel Castro's Cuba for no reason.
Yeah and most of them were right wing classcucks, just look at their voting patterns.
>Pls Leave America and make it better.
No u.
>>68276960
Give him a hook nose and it might be appropriate for /pol/ where class warfare is only allowed against muh jews for some stupid reason.
>>68273467
you tried
ayy grandpa munster
>>68277309
> Not mentioning Sanders is a fucking socialist
> Hilary is not expanding Obama care for the worse in a socialist fashion.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/
> Everyone fled was just butthurt and all. Fidel improved the life of everyone.
I fucking hate misinformed college students. sometimes when they grow up they change reality to suit there special view that america can afford to make everyone live in mansions and party.
I'm going to eat dinner now. Bye.
>>68273467
deep down everyone knows this is true but they can't bring themselves to admit it
>>68278904
1) Sanders isn't a democrat.
2) Cuba is far from perfect, especially in their political system, but you can't deny Castro made advances for Cuba even when the superpower next door constantly tried to subvert them and refused to trade with them.
>sometimes when they grow up they change reality to suit there special view that america can afford to make everyone live in mansions and party.
>le hat tipping man
Nice strawmen, faggot
Ratto shills, fucking give up with your bullshit here.
At least Bloomberg's shill PR people tested the waters here one night and had the good sense to fucking leave after cursing us. you fuckers just don't stop. We hate you, we always will.
Go mail out some "voter violations" to confused old ppl in Iowa to scare them into a vote for you.
I was a #CruzMissile until he took the side of Soros shills now I am a #MAGAbot
>>68275375
This is all you faggots can say anymore. "B-but all those previous conservatives weren't real conservatives. We j-just need to t-try the right kind of conservatism next time."
I'm so done with conservatives. You people are as bad as liberals. You are wimps, you put ideology over country, you are spineless, effete cowards that perpetually get cowed by the left into accepting their values into your own movement (there was a time in this country when conservatives opposed things like the Civil Rights Act.. you cowards completely caved on race) and you're, frankly, not pro-American enough for me.
You're fired. The GOP is now nationalist. Get in line or move along.
Isn't Cruz backed by all the republican establishment dudes?
>>68280813
Yeah. His supporters are just lying when they say he's anti-establishment. They are cuckolds.
He's kinda a slimy person, even in comparison with the likes of Trump and Clinton.
You can talk about the necessity of fighting a war in such a way that mitigates the time to victory and minimizes your own casualties all you want, and I will agree with you with all my heart.
I don't trust someone who talks about "seeing if sand can glow in the dark," and then smirks at his own shitty sense of humor. No, would-be president. That is not a laughing matter. If you are a retard with the position that you are trying to occupy, people are going to fucking die. Conviction in war time is necessary, but you should be willing to fucking murder someone to see to it that things never escalate to war in the first place. It is not a good thing, and I refuse to vote for someone who will make light of it.
>>68280813
Yes and no.
They want to back him because they are convinced that he will bring it to a contested convention so long as Kasich stays in the race so that they can fuck him and Trump.
Basically he has repeatedly called out or thrown under the bus depending on how you look at it the entire republican leadership in the house and senate over their inability to take a stand against Obama's policies even after winning the majority.
If Trump wasn't in the race people on /pol/ would probably love him but since he is directly against the "god emperor" they have decided to hate him.
I could do without the muh jesus and muh Israel bullshit but even after that I still think he is the best overall candidate in the field since Jim Webb dropped out.
>>68270218
He sucked jewish dick longer and harder than Trump though.
Trump said "I will not pander to israel"
Cruz said "I will not be neutral, I am loyal to Israel" literally swearing to be Israel's buttboy
