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>The American College of Pediatricians warns educators and legislators that “a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex” is dangerous for children.

>In a strongly worded statement issued today, the professional association of pediatricians says “a person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking.” It describes such thinking as problem that exists in the mind and not the body and “it should be treated as such.”

>The American College of Pediatricians will release a full statement this summer. The statement released today explains, “human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: ‘XY’ and ‘XX’ are genetic markers of health — not genetic markers of a disorder.”
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>>68234215
BASED
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link?
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>>68234215
bump
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>>68234215
They are a well known conservative group. No one will take this seriously.
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>>68234215
So what will come of this? Will it be ignored or will the SJW's get all bent out of shape over it?
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>mfw actual doctor, not just aussie shitposter
>mfw i referred to sex change as 'sex change'
>mfw sjw tells me the trans community prefers the term 'gender affirmation surgery'
>mfw i tell them it's a literal description of the surgical procedure and that political correct speech will never take hold in a real profession in the real world
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>>68234613
It's on Breitbart, front page of the site.
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>>68234721
Do you really have to ask? When have liberals ever let facts get in the way of their cause?
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>>68234215

Oy vey, this needs to be fixed.
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>>68234215
>>68234515

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

>The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative association of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States. The College was founded in 2002 by a group of pediatricians including Joseph Zanga, a past president of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), as a protest against the AAP's support for adoption by gay couples.[1][2] The group's membership has been estimated at between 60 and 200 members.[1][3]

Still not mainstream senpai
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>>68234714
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>pumping your child with hormones is child abuse
What a shocker, still interested in reading what they publish over the summer
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>>68234613
>>68234765
https://archive.is/wI1yx
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>>68234759
Doing God's work.
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>>68234838

/thread
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>>68234759

We called it eviration.
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>>68234877
>not wanting to give breitbart hits
I don't think you understand the purpose of using archive.is.
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>>68234215
ABSOLUTELY
BASED
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More pediatricians need to speak out against transgender enabling parents.

They're the first line of defense against trannies.
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>>68234215
FINALLY
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>>68234721
Let trans surgery continue, it increases suicide and raises depression, destroys their immune systems, why would we interfere with the liberal scum litreally chopping their dicks off and killing themselves in droves? I almost encourage it! If you're a liberal, you can't understand the struggles of a woman till you see life from their perspective! I wish they would all chop off their dicks and die
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>>68234759

I really hope you make them real actually retarded when you tell them this.
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>>68234215
70% of children grow out of it and these feelings disappear with 2 to 3 years.
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>>68234215
>imblying it's anything more than a group formed for the express purpose of conservative circle jerking
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>>68234215
>pumping you kids with hormones that permanently change and damage the childs body because the child, who can't even consent to sex, says they want to is child abuse
who'd a thunk it?
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>>68234759
>literal description
Not really. It doesn't actually change their sex.
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>>68234759
never say never, ausfriend
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>>68235001
>eviration
It's not liberal scum; it's their children that they are using as social media pets.
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>>68234838
>>68234714

It's tranny fans attacking the source, because they know full well there is no defense for pumping a prepubescent child full of hormones over a made-up disorder called "gender dysphoria".
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>>68235001
Plus it sterilizes them so they can't spread their liberalism disease to their offspring, I wish every numale was trans
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It was about the time to react. Thank you The American College of Pediatricians.
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How could anyone think this is NOT child abuse?
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>>68235147
Liberalism is passed down genetically, they were doomed from birth into a home with parents who have untreated mental disorders, no sympathy from me, in Sparta they'd toss those ones off the cliffs, a sacrifice for the good of the tribe
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>>68234838
I could tell it was some ideology-driven ass source as soon as I read "confused thinking" even though I agree with

>It describes such thinking as problem that exists in the mind and not the body and “it should be treated as such.
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>>68234848

He's right though.
ACP was founded less than 15 years ago to counter AAP which held the opposite position on similar issues.
It's not going to get serious consideration from anyone who doesn't already agree with it.
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>>68234215
The American Institute of Pediatricians, which I started just now, with me as the sole member, agrees with this assessment.

>SJWs BTFO
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>>68235306
>Daniel
I really hate my name.
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About time someone takes a stand against the Gaystapo
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>>68234714
Shut up, Caitlyn
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>>68235306
>giving in to what a small child wants

Society is rotten to the core.
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>>68235465
>Not able to consent to sex/still developing body
JUST PUMP MY SHIT UP W/HORMONES PHAM
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>>68234215
It's about fucking time science speaks out against this abomination
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>>68234854
>amputating your childs genitals and brainwashing them into thinking it is good
>this is child abuse
yeah no shock there
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>>68234759
You just wait till sjws infiltrate the medical community.
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>>68234215
How oppressive!
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>>68234759
>not calling it "the chop"
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>>68235306
I wanted to be a dinosaur when I was that age.
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The 'people' trying to turn little kids into trannies are paedophiles trying to carve a path to further degeneracy and jews trying to ruin white countries just like they always do.
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>>68235930
And your parents didn't take you in to get surgically changed into one?

Are you kidding me??
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>>68235857
Too busy getting gender studies degrees to pursue any scientific career
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>>68235857
>implying they have the intelligence or attention span to complete medical school
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It continually blows my mind that there are surgeons out there who can have a mentally ill person come to them and say "please cut my dick off" and they'll fucking do it. Especially when I learned about dialation and all the awful medical issues their fake vaginas cause.

Is there a shortlist of other mental disorders that are treated by *literally indulging their fantasies*?
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SHUT IT DOWN THE GOYIM KNOW
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>>68235436
It´s okay Danni-girl
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>>68234848
LE LOOK AT ME MOM I'M LE TROLLING LE SHITLORD FAGGOT TUMBLR SJW KIKES ON LE INTERNET!!!!111!!! XXXXDDDDDD!!! I'M LE EBIN TROLLMASTER EDGY REACTIONARY ALPHA MALE WHITE MASTER RACE XXDDD I'M SAVING LE WHITE RACE FROM LE EURABIA AND LE FUCKING DUMBASS NIGGERS AND DEGENERATE FAGGOTS PUTTING AIDS IN LE FLUORIDE WATER FUNDED BY LE JEWS AND LE CULTURAL MARXIST KIKE BITCH FEMINAZI DYKES DESTROYING MUH PROUD NORDIC HERITAGE AND MUH FOUNDATIONS OF CIVILIZATION XXDDDD
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Nothing good comes out of this transgender bullshit, but we have to keep it in perspective.

Kids are only attracted to this ideology because they don't feel satisfied with what they are. The reason for this might be on account of how much emphasis our culture puts on such defined roles, to the point where they'd rather pretend to fucking change their whole gender instead of just changing what actually *is* malleable about their lifestyle. If we didn't hammer gender roles into kids as much (as much, history and psychology prove they should still exist on some level), then kids wouldn't feel the need for this stupidity in the first place.

I'm not trying to sound like some dumbfuck rambling about "masculinity," but rather that we should be treating the root of the issue here.
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>>68234215
There was an article of an important person at the John Hopkins health center (maybe a former director)
Cooming to the conclussion that sex change was a mistake and was all a psychological problem.
Dont' remember much because I'm a little drunk
But I'm surpriced that that event didn't have a much stronger repercution.
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>>68236573
>tfw it's bigger than mine
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>>68236573
I bet if these idiots just waited 5-10 years they could get a trannydick that doesnt look like a corndog.
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>>68236573
holy kek is that really just a stuck on corn dog
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>>68236844
What the fuck are you doing here?
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>>68234215
My wife is a pediatrician at one of the top 3 peds hospitals in the US.
The American College of Pediatrics (ACP) is not really taken seriously in the medical community. They are a politically driven entity that plays off of the naming of a more credible organization - American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP). AAP literally has 1000x the membership, and probably a proportional amount more influence and budget.
That said neither my wife, her colleagues, nor any pediatrician is going to recommend a gender reassignment surgery.

However, a parent can impress their own judgment, just like with vaccinations, nutrition, etc.
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>>68236890
More fucking bullshit.

Do we have literal cultural Marxist shills here?

They're "attracted" to it because their mentally challenged parents and society force it on them.

Gender roles are normal and this was never an issue. Go back to tumblr and take your mental illness with you.
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So you're saying that injecting a child who has not even been affected by their natural hormones first with the hormones of the opposite sex is dangerous to that child's physical and mental health?

I am fucking shocked, just so surprised by that. /s
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>>68235009
Too bad some will already have taken extensive amounts of hormones by that time
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>>68235001
This. Sometimes society has to learn things the hard way.
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>>68236573
That literally looks like a low quality sausage.
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>>68235306
Same way people think mutilating baby boys isn't child abuse. Kikery is entrenched deeply into the American psyche. Kikes gonna kike
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>>68234791
>MUH LIBRULS

Go back to freerepublic, old man
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>>68234838
>zanga
>member of the tribe
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>>68234215
based science
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>>68235163
>deposit seed in spermbank before change
>use seed to impregnate wife anyway
well that changes absolutely nothing
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>>68234215
wow even if it is a conservative american group it's still nice seeing a legitimate medical association's name next to ideas that seem so common sense yet are rarely heard in today's media
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>>68237604
AIDS Skrillex pls go.
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>>68236573
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>>68234215
mfw i grew up with gynecomastia (aka male breasts)
just wanna be normal
and theres fags out there that want tits
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in 1000 years when these trannies bones are excavated they will be classified as their original gender
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>>68237122
That may be the case for some of them; that is the case for some of them. However, a lot of them are just looking at something they don't understand (i.e. some trivial fucking thing like a Barbie doll.)

If Junior is constantly told that he should stay away from the Barbie at all costs, he's going to get this idea in his head that there's some sort of "magical forbiddenness" attached to it, so he's only going to want to pursue it. You know how kids feel love whenever they feel like they're "getting away with something," so this is only going to escalate more and more until Junior finds Reddit or tumblr and learns that he was actually "Juniere" all along.

If we don't give a shit, Junior's going to look at Barbie for two seconds and realize that it isn't as cool as motherfucking G.I. Joe, and that'll be the end of that. It won't have any societally-imposed "magic" on it, so there won't be any escalating subconscious attraction.
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I remember this article, someone posted it on /lgbt/ and every tranny there started to chimp out, calling it "untrue" and claiming it was just propaganda from an "anti-gay organization no longer able to practice their profession". The fuck?
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>>68234215
Well color me suprised
It's only what we've known since the beginning of time
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>>68235930
That's the future mate. Some kid in 3016 says she wants to be a cat and her parents will be legally obliged to have her surgically altered into a cat.
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>>68237858
AJ?
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>>68239758
no, but close 2bh
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>>68239758
He looks like a fat, retarded version of Bricktop
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

>The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative association of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States.

>SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE
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>>68234215
It's fucking insane that this is considered a "controversial opinion"

I can't stand living in this fucked up wacko world anymore.
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>>68240067
>It's fucking insane that this is considered a "controversial opinion"

You promote hate and violence against trans people.
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>>68240067
Murdering babies is literally considered a human right.
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>>68234215
someone's about get btfo

>expressing biological facts is now a radical and disturbing attack on vulnerable people

just fuck my shit up famiglia
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>>68240118
I think they should be institutionalized or sent to therapy
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>>68240050
>>68240118
Kill yourself.

They've done more to help the country than you liberal triple nigger cock sucking plebbits ever have.
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>>68240255
>I think they should be institutionalized or sent to therapy

I think all conservatives should be institutionalizes or sent to therapy.

Conservatism is a mental disorder.

PROVE ME WRONG
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>>68240118
Wot
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>>68235001

4-10 year olds don't deserve to be physically and mentally ruined for life because their sjw parents want to signal their progressiveness to Facebook friends
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>>68240422
>yfw wanting to be the other gender is actuslly classified as a mental disorder
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>>68235001
>Let's let children die because of muh ideology

Nice, faggot
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>>68240420
>nigger cock sucking

Whooo I've only sucked 10 of those.
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>>68234215
>impersonation of the opposite sex
People don't really need surgery, they just need makeup and clothing. If someone wants to ban something that lets a person look like they are of the opposite sex, they have got thousands of years of existing products to dispose of.
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>>68236324
They have the intelligence or attention span to sell their pussy to those who can complete medical school.
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>>68236891

Why did Zoro cut Wojak's face?
Why is Wojak making old man Pepe look at that ashtray?
Is this deepest lore?
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>>68238234

You know how nowadays SJWs riot and chimp out in schools until the schools do what they want? Well that's how gays got the AMA to declare that homosexuality was no longer a mental illness back in the 70s. There was no new research, there was no scientific breakthrough, it was caving into political bullying and violence
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>>68236573
GOYIM WHY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>68234215
Kek do you guys realize the amount of trolling you could do in a gender neutral bathroom? Eat a bunch of mexican food the day before you go and while all the pansexual genderfluid transhuman queers are in there let out the rankest shit ever. fart, groan, spray shit all over the toilet and dont flush it. just troll these people out of their own safe spaces
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>>68240699
>Well that's how gays got the AMA to declare that homosexuality was no longer a mental illness back in the 70s.

Literally no reason for it being declared a illness outside of religion. PROVE ME WRONG
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>>68237017
>the ACP is bad because the AAP who is a mirror organization is bigger

i always has my suspicions that doctors were secretly retarded. now I know for sure
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>>68235857
sjw courses are built-in premed schools
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>>68240821
not even Jesus can cure AIDS
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>>68240838
>the ACP is bad because

It's a socially conservative religious organization.

Religion = CANCER
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>>68240818
You do realize that a gender neutral bathroom is mostly just when a place has only one bathroom that everyone takes turns in. Your own home has these.
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>>68240838
This. Doctors don't have any ethics anymore. They only follow fads or cultural cues.

>>68241069
Most hospitals in the world are run by churches. Religion has had a more positive influence than the modern, liberal ideology that has infected most professions.
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>Not going full degenerate in the golden age of boy pussy
I'm sorry bros, the temptation is too strong
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>>68240821
It's a self-destructive, pathological behaviour with links to suicide and drug abuse.
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>>68240420

>Kill yourself

Xe will soon
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>>68241206
>Most hospitals in the world are run by churches. Religion has had a more positive influence than the modern, liberal ideology that has infected most professions.

And when religion dies out those hospitals will be run by non-profit organizations.

Religion does not make people good. People are good in spite of religion.
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>>68235306
why? i child cant make these kind of decision. soon, we gonna let them drink and do drugs beacuse they want to.
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>>68235930
i wanted to be a pokemon.
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>>68241295
>It's a self-destructive, pathological behaviour with links to suicide and drug abuse.

Suicide and drug abuse exists among whites as well. Higher than most other groups. Whites are MENTALLY ILL
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>>68241318
Religious people are more charitable, and most charities are religious. There is a positive correlation between religion and charity. Secularism is a sign of social decline. Look at the Soviet Union. You're dream liberal utopia will never happen.

>>68241404
"Caucasian" isn't a pathology like homosexuality is.
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>>68241318
Feminists and SJWs aren't non-religious. They're forming their own new church-of-gibs where every member is entitled to free shit off the backs of non-members.
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>>68235930
I wanted to be a train

needless to say, my parents had my arms and legs replaced by wheels and fed me nothing but coal
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>>68241643
You're a big train
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>>68237850
Underrated post.
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>>68234215
I was going to get excited, then I checked their website and found out they're just some BS far right wing organization that no one will take seriously.
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>>68241318
>People are good in spite of religion.
so you're retarded. good to know.
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>>68236573
>bigger than mine
At least mine doesn't look like a German sausage glued to my crotch
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>>68241956
Most mainstream medical organizations have become liberal shill groups and people take them seriously.
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>>68241956
>conservative organization says X is bad
>pol: X BTFO
>refuses to acknowledge they used a shit source from a shit organization and goes on a weird tirade about "kikes and sjws"

Worst kinds of threads desu
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>>68241956
>far right wing
is there such a thing as just being right wing?
or is it always far or extreme or whatever
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>>68240695
It's fucking Harry potter
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>>68242321
When mainstream organizations are just cultural Marxist fronts, the only sane ones left are the conservative groups. The difference is the conservative groups at least admit their bias, the liberals pretend to be neutral.
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>>68242345
Of course people or groups can be fairly moderate and lean in one direction or another.
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>>68241643
Only an American would think of a steam powered locomotive as a train because Ford and GM.
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I agree with them but this is nothing coming from a conservative group

You might as well post Operation Rescue criticizing Planned Parenthood
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I don't see a problem with cutting the dick off a 7 year old boy. Americans has already showed me that you can remove half a dick at the age of 1 week. In America this would merely be finishing the job, yes?
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>>68234759
>literal description of the surgical procedure
But it isn't
"Genital mutilation" might be better
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>>68242896

Shut up Sweden, you'll be forcibly circumcised with rusty sheapsheers after you become a caliphate anyway
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>>68242581
SMELLY, DUMB, DIESEL SCUM
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>>68234215
It's habbening
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>>68243008
Oy vey!
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>>68242642
Why should their opinions not mean anything? They're still professionals in their field. You're giving in to the idea that politically liberal mainstream organizations are neutral standard bearers.
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>>68242321

Newfaggotry: the post

How many people itt are butthurt trannies from legbutt, desperate to insist that their pathetic mental illness and self-mutilation fetish is actually a perfectly legitimate lifestyle?
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>>68243270
>implying pedos want little girls to destroy their innocent beauty, take hormones and play with trucks

0/10 straya
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I've always been thinking that this shit is dangerous.

Pretty sure every boy has had the thought of "damn I wonder what it would be like to be a girl, I wish I was a girl so I could play with my boobies and shit", then some boys are just feminine as fuck as kids but grow up to be very masculine.

Now that their stupid thoughts are being validated by the media, their parents actually take this shit seriously. Instead of responding to the question of "hey mom i wanna be a girl" with "haha you're very silly, Tom, you're a boy, you know that". They respond with "Oh really? Ok I will dress you up like a girl and snip off your balls and pump you with female hormones and call you a girl now"

fuck man, they just take it too far. In the future, you will get taken to jail for child abuse for not switching your child's gender if they ask for it.
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My neighbor has an 11 year old who is fruity as shit. I thought he was gay which was fine with me but his liberal parents keep instilling in the idea that he's transgender. He doesn't know what that means but he's going along with it anyway.
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>>68243593
reported to the fbi
grooming children is illegal you sick fuck
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The American College of Pediatrics is a small right wing lobby group that has between 60-200 members
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>>68243593
report them for child abuse.
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>>68243593
Literally call child services.
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>>68243671
He's not the fucked on here you retard
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>>68243270
This is an excellent argument. They were in a relationship!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians
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>>68243816
>the qt boy next door might be gay *licks lips* i hope his parents stop trying to turn him into a girl that would be terrible

gay is just as bad at trans, the only people who don't think so are faggots who are stuck in the closet
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Both extremes are sickening. Let a child be a child. Don't tell them they're transgender or tell them they have to be straight. For fucks sake.
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>>68234759

"penile eversion" would be even more accurate
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>>68234759
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>>68243945
I'm not saying that the kid should go over to OP's house or some shit, I just think on the healthy scale that being a faggot may not be the best thing for your mental state, but it's not as bad as being a tranny
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>>68243982
>being straight, the normal orientation for the majority of human civilization for all of history is an "extreme"

You fags are all too willing to compromise.
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>>68244111

RARE
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>>68243167

The mooslums like to circumcise women too, so enjoy that whole situation Svein
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We're getting into some weird ground as a society. How is being fat or being an alcoholic a disease but changing sexes isn't? Changing sexes is much more extreme and unnatural
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>>68244234
Not even
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>>68240695
>Wojak represents the common america
>Zorro represents the mexican taking their jobs
>Old man represents companies that hire illegals
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>>68243755
>>68243872

And the AAP is a politically-charged liberal organization. What's your point?
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>>68234759
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>>68244216
>being straight is extreme
No fucktard, repeatedly telling a gay child that they're straight is extreme. What if we didn't tell a child what they were? What if we just let them figure it out? It's what my parents did, and I'm a straight white male with a girlfriend. It's the same concept as not forcing religion on a child. There are just some things you let kids figure out on their own.
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>>68235930

I wanted to be an astronaut so my parents had my body surgically altered to better cope with the rigors of a zero-g environment
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>>68244476
>gay child

Homosexuality is a treatable, correctable condition. Why would you indulge a child's mental illness.

>It's the same concept as not forcing religion on a child.

You mean the concept that was part of western heritage before a bucnh of faggy, entitled baby-boomer parents decided to not raise their kids properly?
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>>68237009
making some delicious fresh copypasta
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>>68243989

Penile inversion therapy or "PIT"
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>>68244671

This desu, rare quality leafpost
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>>68234714
Found the kike
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>>68241004
one semester of sociology & psychology is hardly a pre requisite
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>>68234714

Those who won't take this seriously are already swimming on female hormones.

I feel bad for kids who legitimate fall for the transgender meme, its nothing but Fetishism gone too far.
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>>68244329

Wow, look its a fucking leaf.
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>>68237858
His name is robert anon
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>>68244671
Bats have higher homosexuality rates than humans. Are we changing them to be "correct"? Sure, maybe being gay isn't how we're "meant" to be, but gays are harmless.
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>>68234759

>tfw can't have have sex change because i never had sex
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>>68236844
Mad tranny is mad
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>>68240444
The kids certainly don't deserve it, the parents do. But really with the kind of uprising a kid like that would have with the parents like he has death will be a sweet release.

Gotta fight fire with fire friendo.
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>>68244988
humans are not bats
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>>68244988
Bats also sleep upside down and poop in caves. What's your point?

>but gays are harmless.

The spread disease like rodents and sue people for not making their wedding cakes. they aren't harmless.
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>>68234215
He's right you know
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>>68235088
>pumps child full of drugs and hormones because they said they want to
>cant drink alcohol until late teens/early twenties because not responsible enough
>cant vote until 18 because their decisions arent informed enough

Wew...
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>>68234759
We call it "being a fucking retarded faggot"
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>>68245366

Its just a fetish, those allowing this to happen just want more fucktoys roaming around for them.
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>>68245191
examples of them spreading diseases? This sounds a lot like any argument for any minority ever. And I disagree with the stupid suing people thing, they're private businesses, they can do what they want.
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>>68245439
This desu, when they got rid of bullying it kind of started the entire tranny/fag/special snowflake thing bigtime. Faggots will be faggots unless they learn to stop acting like a faggot.
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>>68240603
Yeesh. Poor ol' Luggage Lad ;___;

Pic related, because fuck that normie shitstain for wanting some pussy.
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>>68245499
http://www.bilerico.com/2010/03/us_gay_mens_astonishing_hivstd_rates.php
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>>68234759
Like, an actual doctor on 4chan ?

I'm just a med student and I can't envision myself being here in 10 years.
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>>68234759
I fucking love you Australia

no homo
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>>68245668
hard to believe they're grown men.
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>>68234613

http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children
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>>68245684
Okay, so whatever we've been doing isn't working. Are gay people inherently evil sex fiends? No. Is anybody inherently evil? No. This is like what's going on in Africa. We're not teaching them how to use condoms or have safe sex, or there's a stigma against them that makes them afraid of actually doing anything.
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>>68234215
TRIGGERED
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A 10 year old can 'choose' to be put on hormone treatments for years but can't smoke a cigarette until they're 18 or drink a beer until they're 21.

Save me from this liberal hell
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>>68234215

OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN
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>>68246127
As a liberal, that sounds really fucked up. There needs to be a balance. Perhaps at age 16, but maybe even that might be a bit too young.
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>>68234759

KEK
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>>68234759

Things that unfortuantely never happened
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>>68234714
>They are a well known conservative group. No one will take this seriously.

This. While I think it's good that the issued a position, they hardly represent anything close to a consensus in the medical community - on this and any other issue.
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Doesn't matter if they're left leaning, or right leaning, they're a politicized group, and therefore unable to provide an unbiased, objective view. Fuck that kind of shit.

(They're right, though)
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>>68245836
Been coming here since I started law School in 2007. now I'm an Attourney and still here.

You may never leave.
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>>68246598
It's almost like having a bias doesn't disqualify you from being right
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>>68236573
>IT'S A FUCKING CORN DOG
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>>68244280
It's anotha shoah!
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>>68234215

>Clearly a projection of personal opinion

Why do non trans people think they can tell trans people what to do with their body? Obviously if you're not transgender the thought of taking estrogen and altering your body surgically would seems horrible to you. No shit!

For those of us who actually have this terrible disorder this is of course a necessary sacrifice in order to achieve a productive/happy/successful life, as opposed to being a perpetually depressed slug and net drag on the economy. Why is this such a horrible prospect? Yes we get it, it's really sad to see your sons or daughters going through this, but your idea of "helping" them (by only giving them therapy, which is like putting a bandaid on a broken arm) is only prolonging the suffering into their adult life, long after puberty has permanently damaged them, which often leads to suicide as I'm sure all of you already know and won't hesitate to tell me over and over.

Let me ask, do you honestly think the suicide rate would be this absurdly high if:

>Trans people were given puberty blockers (which are reversible mind you) as teens and thus looked how they prefer as adults
>Trans people held less negative stigma in society, no need to hide your feelings of dysphoria
>Trans people weren't kicked out of their homes by their parents and forced into homelessness

Successful transitions don't cause suicide. Stop letting your sons and daughters die because of your own opinions on transitioning. This is the real child abuse. If it seems fucked up to you, congratulations you're not transgender!

t. ranny
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>>68236324

Yeah because they sure needed engineering degrees and gaming expertise to infiltrate video games and the tech industry right?
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>>68244988

Cannibalism, rape, and incest are also common "natural" activities throughout the animal Kingdom, anon. As civilized and rational beings, we should suppress our baser instincts because that is what sets us apart from brute beasts
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>>68241295
That's more what transexualism (whatever the word is, transexuality? Don't know don't care) is. I am a fag myself but I'm pretty adjusted, I do my business behind closed doors and don't bother anyone by whining about lack of rights. If you're a mentally stable individual liking people of the same sex isn't that big of an issue, as long as you're decent about it.
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>>68246833
Yes, our relative morality sets us apart from animals in that sense, but if you honestly believe homosexuality is akin to incest, rape, murder, and cannibalism, then I feel sorry for whoever has to interact with you on a daily basis.
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>>68246795
Yes clearly we should be pandering to every statement a child makes because if we don't then at some point they might kill themselves and it will be our fault.

>wahhhh its your fault im killing myself because I dont like how you treat me!!!!!!!!!! waaaaaahhhhh

The whole of society isn't going to change because you have a mental illness, you should be treated as such. Is there no fucking end with you people, trannys dont kill themselves because they are mentally ill they kill themselves because YOU'RE a bigot. Come back to reality.
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>>68234759
>mfw R1 Pediatrics
>mfw I do the same
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>>68247133
homosexuality is still a base animal instinct and is bad for you

just because it isnt as bad as raping a baby's asshole doesn't make it good
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>>68247392
Bad for you how, exactly? Homosexuality in and of itself isn't bad for you. You could argue diseases, that's inherent in sexuality itself, and can be avoided by safe sex and actually knowing who you're fucking.
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>>68247345

Don't be a namefag please, you're making us look bad here.
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>>68247511
*but that's inherent
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>>68246740
It doesn't, obviously. But your credibility is so obviously weakened by an agenda. Even if they're steadfast in not letting their agenda guide their actions, or corrupt their findings, they're still seen as illegitimate in the eyes of virtually everyone, because so organizations like that are unable or unwilling to prevent such things.

What are you fuckin' brain dead?
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>>68247511
>Homosexuality in and of itself isn't bad for you
neither is incest, cannibalism, or rape
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>>68247562
just when is medicine related
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>>68247647
>But your credibility is so obviously weakened by an agenda
the AAP is also similarly weakened but no one cares about their bias
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>>68247651
Oh, you really got me there. You seem to forget that those other things harm other people.
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>>68246795
>For those of us who actually have this terrible disorder this is of course a necessary sacrifice in order to achieve a productive/happy/successful life, as opposed to being a perpetually depressed slug and net drag on the economy

Because I'm not convinced of this premise. Transgenderism is a cult. You go to ask someone what GID is and you'll get a dozen trannies desperately trying to convince you that you're a tranny because you played with dolls once as a child or got into your mother's makeup when you where four. "of course, all my failures in life make sense, it's not because I'm a failure it's because I was born in teh wrong body!!"

Then, once they have you hooked, they start to convince you that you need to get on hormones ASAP because every second you don't, you're becoming more of an ugly hon who will never pass. No time to think it over or discuss it, get on pills NOW even if you have to self-medicate.

Of course, once you start ODing on estrogen and blocking testosterone you're going to feel more feminine, and are far less likely to have doubts or back out. You will also become emotionally unstable and any genuine mental disorders you already had will become more intense.

Now they start telling you that you need to come out and cut off all contact with any friends or family who don't unconditionally support your transition. They will also convince you to "present as female" in public. These to actions help cut you off from the outside world and cement your attachment to the cult. Nobody but other trannies could possibly understand your struggle, so that's the only people you'll associate with most of the time.
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>>68247875
Then, once youve been on HRT for 2-5 years, shrivelling your testicles and sterilizing yourself, maybe even having saved enough money for FFS, you will suddenly realize that you've given up your job, friends, spouse, family, and all you do is sit around all day on your computer commiserating with bitter hons and convincing other people to become trans, and after all that, you still don't look like a woman and your still depressed/bipolar/lonely/a failure.

Statistically, the countdown to your suicide has begun the second you start to consider transsexuality
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>>68234838
well, cite it right

6. Hembree, WC, et al. Endocrine treatment of transsexual persons: an Endocrine Society clinical practice guideline. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2009;94:3132-3154.

7. Olson-Kennedy, J and Forcier, M. “Overview of the management of gender nonconformity in children and adolescents.” UpToDate November 4, 2015. Accessed 3.20.16 from www.uptodate.com.

8. Moore, E., Wisniewski, & Dobs, A. “Endocrine treatment of transsexual people: A review of treatment regimens, outcomes, and adverse effects.” The Journal of Endocrinology & Metabolism, 2003; 88(9), pp3467-3473.

9. FDA Drug Safety Communication issued for Testosterone products accessed 3.20.16: http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/PostmarketDrugSafetyInformationforPatientsandProviders/ucm161874.htm.

10. World Health Organization Classification of Estrogen as a Class I Carcinogen: http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/ageing/cocs_hrt_statement.pdf.

11. Dhejne, C, et.al. “Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden.” PLoS ONE, 2011; 6(2). Affiliation: Department of Clinical Neuroscience, Division of Psychiatry, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden. Accessed 3.20.16 from http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885.
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>>68247818
>You seem to forget that those other things harm other people.
nice goalpost moving

prove how incest and cannabilism hurts others. it's just consensual behavior between adults
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>>68247875
>>68247900

So if you, as an adult of sound mind, want to destroy yourself physically and mentally, then that's fine as long as I don't have to pay for it, as long as I'm not subsidizing your health care, as long as I don't face legal action for refusing to accept you, as long as my children aren't being brainwashed to accept you in schools and om TV.

But no minor deserves to be subjected to that "lifestyle"
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>>68247938
if they have a kid incest could potentially be harmful to the child but if they use protection than no it isn't harmful
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>>68247651
Cannibalism can actually cause diseases on the long run, incest produces genetically defective babies, rape is not consensual and savage, not to mention it can lead to the spreading of diseases too (like, guess what, any other unprotected sexual intercourse).
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>>68234215
Those hateful bigots. Don't they know wrongthink is a crime? Off to the reeducation camps with them
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>>68237858
Come to /fit/ EVERYONE has gyno
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>>68234215
These are also the type of parents that would allow a 7 year old to engage in sex because "they know what they want" and they don't want to be "oppressive , narrow-minded parents"

Pure degeneracy right here..
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>>68247133

Doesn't matter what homosexuality is akin to, all my argument does is destroy the "animals do it so it's okay" argument
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>>68248120
>You could argue diseases, that's inherent in eating itself, and can be avoided by safe preparation and actually knowing who you're eating
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>>68247938
Incest doesn't really harm anyone if it's consensual, it's just seen as fucked up because of offpring issues. Personally, it weirds me out, but if it's between consenting adults, fuck it, do whatever. Just don't make 12 toed babies.
Cannibalism is just fucked up, it's like bodily mutilation of the dead, and I'm not going to argue with you about that because you realize that it's sort of going off topic.
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>>68247815
People with any fuckin' sense do.
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>>68234714
bruh just because anon said it doesnt mean he wills it. i agree, but i wish it wasnt true.
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>>68248135
To think we're not that far where this Orwellian nightmare becomes reality.
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>>68248312
you brought it up though
just admit you're a closet assfister and go eat da poopoo
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>>68248148
they get theirs from roids.
i'd honestly take roids if i could find them.
probably just fuck my shit up worse though
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>>68236573
>just give me the bratwurst look

>say no more
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>>68248474
if i could get roids i would
my genitals are already miniscule and i could use the test
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>>68248312
>I'll fuck my daughter, but I'm responsible enough to not burden society with our potentially retarded offspring

Yeah, the types that engage in incest going to think about the potential harm their children might cause society at large, and will be sure not to allow their partners to produce offspring.
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>>68248443
Does this mean I've won? You don't seem to be arguing logically anymore.
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>>68248255
Abbo tribes who practice funerary cannibalism all suffer from degenerative neurological diseases. I'm pretty sure they know who they're eating, also it's consensual since it belongs to their traditions. Still, not exactly the best practice for your health, don't you think?
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>>68248563
That's a seperate issue from consensual sex.
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>>68235930
Dino fag.
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>>68248579
no, you lost, anon

> and I'm not going to argue with you about that because you realize that it's sort of going off topic.
you've dipped out of your own argument. gg no re

>>68248595
i doubt they follow safe food prep guidelines. if i had such a hankering i could develop a system of human butchery just as healthy as pork
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>>68248693
No it isn't. The type of people who engage in incest are dumb. They'll reproduce and society at large will have to foot the bill for their retarded ass crippled kids until they die. It's a net positive to the country to ban incest.

>but muh freedom

Shut the fuck up.
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>>68235910
>or an addadictomy
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This is an issue of relative morality, the cannibalism and incest thing. If the dead guy wanted to be eaten, then okay. If the southern brother and sister want to fuck, let them, just don't let them reproduce. If eating other people leads to issues, then that's akin to eating any raw meat. The issue isn't the eating itself, it's the mutilation of the dead body.
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>>68248911
>The type of people who engage in homosex are dumb. They'll spread disease and society at large will have to foot the bill for their retarded ass AIDS pills until they die. It's a net positive to the country to ban homosexuality.
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>>68237954
It's harder than you think. Pitting of the pelvis is a tell tale sign of female bones for example, but only if the deceased has given birth.
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