>bring back waterboarding and a whole lot worse
What forms of torture would you recommend Donald install at Gitmo?
>>68204383
>Kwalliso
>>68204383
torture doesn't work. just kill them, one less Muslim is never a bad thing. how painfully their deaths are tho makes no difference to me.
We're gonna make torture great again, folks. It's got to happen. I have friends, many friends, who are leading experts on the subject. We're gonna make the Inquisition look like child's play. And let me tell you, no one is going to mess with us again.
>>68204383
Hot
>>68204383
Read some holocaust testimonies, they're very creative. One of the places had dogs that would rape you to death.
>>68204383
nothing is too bad for muslims. remember, these are people who will lock you in a cage and set you on fire.
>>68204383
Play this on loop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QBRgyitFs
>>68204793
Wouldn't work on aids skrillex.
Put them in a room, feed them and keep them alive for weeks/months. During this time the walls in the room slowly move together until eventually the victim is slowly crushed to death.
>>68204793
They're so cartoonish I don't understand how anyone can believe them. They're like James Bond villains. I expect there to be a tank full of hungry sharks underneath a retracting floor.
>>68204383
>What forms of torture would you recommend Donald install at Gitmo?
Blood Eagle.
>>68204892
Summoning Jersey?
>>68204563
Torture not working is a meme. It is not that good when interrogating single captives, but works very well when you can cross-examine results from multiple captives
>>68204892
Holy shit
>>68204892
Holy shit I wouldn't be able to imagine that
>/pol seriously the WORST possible thing humans can do to another is justified, even if the other those who we'd torture are torturing us first
We are supposed to be better than them. True justice doesn't come from committing the same crime they commit. You don't rob a thief and you don't rape a rapist. It is about penance
![CIA-FBI-KGB-trying-to-catch-rabbit[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xKJDDWP.jpg "CIA-FBI-KGB-trying-to-catch-rabbit[1].jpg")
>>68205118
I would get qts to sit on their faces, stomp on their balls, and suffocate them with their feets and farts.
>>68204383
Dismemberment.
Hard to commit jihad when you have no arms or legs.
>>68205183
No, it's about payback. But we're not talking about criminals. We're talking about the enemy in time of war. An unconstrained enemy that is barbaric in every way. Basically Ghengis Khan, or Atilla the Hun. There's really nothing too bad that we could do to them.
And should do to them. And their families, and their children. Starting with the ones hiding in the United States pretending to be Americans even as the continue to worship moehommad.
>>68205183
>you don't rape a rapist
You don't know much about the penal system.
>>68204383
![vile-2012-bloody-tools[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6khV3uy.jpg "vile-2012-bloody-tools[1].jpg")
>>68204563
It works if done right. Torture them for months, a mix or temporary to permanent surgical bodily harm and take the sweet release of death away from them. Promise a lifetime of unimaginable pain for false information. Sooner or later even the strongest of them will betray their all mighty god.
There is such a thing as a fate worse than death, exploit it.
>>68205228
Eh, depends on what kind of results you want. Torturing for info and torturing for confession are different kettles of fish
>>68204793
>dogs trained to rape
holy shit goys are gullible
>>68205228
Russians have/had no morals or conscience.
They were torturing people just for fun.
>>68205356
>No, it's about payback
We aren't warring tribes looking for payback because another tribe burned down out village. We HAVE to better than our enemies. I don't care if we get it worse, in the end we still come out on top because we didn't succumb to their brutality.
>And should do to them. And their families, and their children.
You realize that makes us look as bad as them
>>68205503
I need this with sound, friend.
>>68205503
what the fuck lmao
>>68204563
>torture doesn't work.
bullshit, stop repeating this fucking meme
>need password to get into guy's laptop
>grab a tire iron and beat him with it until he gives it to you
>>68205503
this is some sadistic shit
why are you watching this?
>>68205754
>why are you watching this?
this
and where did you find it?
>>68205754
I just found it in a /b/ rekt thread and decided it'd be served well here
>>68204892
you can break sandpaper easily just poke your fingers through it
>>68205627
You don't understand war.
Who the hell cares how we look? Either we defeat them or we die.
>>68205292
I wanna be interrogated.
>>68205546
the American system of "torture" (enhanced interrogation techniques and extraordinary rendition) is superior. KGB methods are 19th century barbarism.
>>68205578
I would torture muslims just for fun. They deserve it for worshiping moehommad.
>>68205823
There's that Canadian fart fetish again.
>>68205503
>>68204383
weird stuff...butt stuff
tasers,rape,cateration smacking their kids about in front of them until they give the data they need
fingers cutt off...torture rack
anything to crack em desu
>>68205868
Keep telling that yourself.
>>68205627
>You realize that makes us look as bad as them
We should scoop them up in their own countries and harvest them for organs. Strike fear into the hearts of anyone even thinking of attacking the west.
>>68205974
if you're going this far, bring their family in and just torture their family infront of them
>>68204383
Leave bacon as their only food source and 40s of malt liquor as drink.
Have every guard and member of gitmo staff accompanied by a dog of their choice at all times.
Also play this at prayer time six times a day night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNjdgtcIw8
If they don't crack and give info maybe at least they'll chill the fuck out a bit
>>68205808
I have never fought in a war but in my best estimation it isn't just about tactics and propaganda. The over strategy isn't just total decimation of your attackers, it is about winning them over to your side, or at least proving you aren't as bad as their oppressors. I don't think any war has ever been fought where it is either the total annihilation of one group or the other.
>>68204383
Deep fry their hands/face/balls
>>68206025
rip off their heads and shit down their necks
>>68205800
Not the type mounted to a belt sander
>>68206091
they value their sons over their wives..they are just chattle
the kids are the future of islam..target those to get the REEEEEE from the terrorist haha
>>68206097
>Leave bacon as their only food source
muslims are allowed to eat bacon to survive, this is a meme
they're essentially allowed to break every single 'rule' of islam to survive as long as they believe their life is in danger
>>68205710
The problem is our "torture" isn't really that bad because we have to preserve human rights and all this bullshit
I know, if you allow an exception for Muslim terrorists who's to say the government won't use it on you, which is a valid concern but only because our government exists to protect itself, not it's people.
But yeah if you want info get out the car batteries and start tearing off toenails
>>68206163
hypothetically I'd imagine a muzzie watching his son get railed by tyrone and the crew would make him spill the beans
>>68206151
yeah you can its just paper
>>68204383
>get them a phychologist to examine their fears
>torture them with said fears
Just how hard is to do that?
waterboarding is fine to me. Have you ever tried it? It's really terrible and it won't do you any damage. It gives you the illusion of drowning which is one of the worst sensations ever.
>>68206097
>Also play this at prayer time six times a day night.
You fucking killed me anon holy shit
>>68206107
nah its too lethal that you want to keep them alive and that would lead to infections
you want to keep shocking them in different areas to keep the pain fresh...shocking the same areas again and again makes the nerves a bit dull.
>>68204383
We find a way to make terrorists immortal then perpetually feed them into a wood chipper.
>>68206256
m8 that's like 99% of what waterboarding is
every human is psychologically afraid of drowning and waterboarding simulates it
it fucking destroys you
Threaten to and inject them with pig's blood.
>>68206260
ever notice how your flag looks like the mexican one
>>68206240
A Christian life is worth more than that of a heretic..for their sould are already lost.
the govt must be given free reign to get the info that it needs to keep the 1st world safe.
>>68206304
Or direct neural stimulation of whichever part of the brain processes pain.
>>68206304
>>68206448
As a rule, eternal torture is generally not deserved even by the worst of the worst.
>>68206304
>>68206517
But it's fun.
And demoralizing, if you do it publicly.
And if they're muslim, add pigs blood somehow.
>>68206605
I guess if its fun everyone should try eternal torture.
>>68205521
And you don't think that the CIA already knows this shit? The same CIA that went out and said that torture doesn't work
>>68206517
checkmate
Torture is ineffective. It works in that you'll get a confession, but they'll just tell you what you want to hear. It's very easy to get innocent people to confess to crimes using torture, and even if you torture an actual enemy, there's no guarantee they'll tell the truth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Torture_of_prisoners_of_war
>The effectiveness of torture might also have been counterproductive to Japan's war effort. After the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki during World War II, the Japanese military tortured a captured American P-51 fighter pilot named Marcus McDilda in order to discover how many atomic bombs the Allies had and what the future targets were. McDilda, who knew nothing about the atomic bomb nor the Manhattan Project, "confessed" under torture that the U.S. had 100 atomic bombs and that Tokyo and Kyoto were the next targets. McDilda's false confession may have swayed the Japanese leaders' decision to surrender.
Anything that causes gross suffering for no greater good should be banned. I like Trump, and I'm definitely voting for him, but his stance on torture is one of his few positions I can't get behind (along with his thoughts on the NSA and surveillance).
>>68206703
Nothing wrong with a bit of S&M.
>>68206517
imagine if isis are planning a attack on the states...the CIA find someone who is involved but the guy is a islamic zeolot.
the data he has will save 1000 americans.
he tells you to get fucked the attack cant be stopped his mates are already preparing for it.
what do you do?
personally ill smash his fucking shins with a cricket bat till he squeals....morals go out of the window against an immoral enemy.
you cant play by the rules when your enemy does not have rules...you will lose.
Require them to insult Muhammad and Islam before they're given food, and make all the food they're given haram, such as pork that's not slaughtered via halal methods.
Brazen bull for racemixers.
>>68206751
fuck off you retarded cuck, we already covered this.
it's perfect for when you know they have the information
>>68206751
bait
>>68204383
Waterboarding using pigs blood.
>>68205710
>Please stop hitting me, I already given you the password
>No you haven't
>what am I supposed to do then
>Say that the password is Pakistan
They don't torture for the truth, they torture for what they want to hear
>>68206903
THIS
>>68206751
If you make yourself a demon, you can put your enemies in a position where they either, A) surrender, or B) Suicide attack.
Information extraction shouldn't be the point of torture. It should be done, publicly, to break enemy moral.
It's also fun.
>>68206930
this makes no sense, if they give the wrong password then you immediately know it's wrong
>>68206773
>what do you do
I'd hire you for a writer for 24 if it was still on. No really thought it is a very morally gray subject that has no good answer. Also if ever get to a point where that is the only recourse that means as a country we have failed somewhere pretty hard with our security.
But I guess you want a conclusive answer...would I torture a obviously evil person for information guaranteed to save lives of innocent people? Yes. Would I enjoy it? No. I would probably have to commit some act of contrition against myself later too.
>>68206930
Torture for confession != Torture for Intel
>>68206773
this makes perfect sense but libtards will go through such mental gymnastics that their bottom line will be "that's inhumane!"
>>68207003
>>68206773
t h i s
right here
even if you get no information from him, it was better than the alternative which was sit on your ass and twiddle your thumbs until they attack
on the otherhand, he might squeal while you're cutting his dick off
>>68207003
they are dehumanized to me desu...you obv have never met many muslims
when something bad happens to them it actually brightens my day.
no guilt what so ever...they are animals that seek to destroy everything you care about.
>>68207003
>Would I enjoy it? No.
Why? Revenge is literally the most pleasant thing you can feel. Hurting those who want to hurt you and your loved ones?
Sign me up.
>>68206903
>>68207188
also, this
even if I don't personally enjoy it, it's not difficult to find a sociopath that doesn't mind(or does enjoy it)
hell, it's probably even therapeutic for them
see libtards, we're helping people with mental disorders
>>68205183
Seriously you fucking idiots. Did you forget that most of us would qualify as "domestic terrorists" under the wrong (read most) judge if we even put 25% of the shit we kick around into action?
Have you forgotten how liberal the definition of terrorism is nowadays? ALWAYS think about how the feds will turn around and use these provisions on you. Fucking faggots.
>>68207264
We don't have any information they want, you idiot.
Nobody here is arguing for torture for confession.
>>68204383
I got a really good and unconventional one. We all know that the brain has locations that deal with pain right? So what I'm thinking is we drug one of the detainees, do a little surgery on them to put electrodes into these spots, sew them back up and wake 'em up with a jolt. I'm not entirely sure what would happen, but I think if the voltage is high enough you would cause the worst possible pain imaginable. Just think, one second you feel completely fine and the next you are writhing in agony.
>>68205183
But you kill a killer.
>>68207245
not sociopaths persea...just the enemy
i know in my heart i could do evil things to muslims without remorse and i would get off on it..like when we watch "nigger deaths" webm threads...its funny.
but if it was against our own kind? i draw a line at that desu.
i could shoot at a paki no problem..but an american? no
So, /pol/, what would be the worst possible way to be tortured to death?
My vote is for Scaphism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism
You basically get locked in between 2 boats, floating in a swamp, butt naked, so that you can't leave, but that smaller things can enter. You're then fed a diet of pure milk and honey until you develop severe diarrhea. The mixture begins to attract flies and insects, which would then start eating you alive. Infection sets in and your body rots away, but you're still forced alive via the food and liquid you're given.
>>68207161
>>68207188
For one thing, it puts them in the position of victim hood. Today's terrorists, are tomorrows victims, which are then next day's terrorists again. It's a cycle. Have you ever stopped to wonder why they hate us so much? Hate the west? Maybe their book tells them to commit genocide, but so does our books. It is not just an ideological thing.
Also not to sound like a naive morally righteous fucker, but its it is wrong. Even if they are the enemy.
>>68207264
>>68204793
yeah the jews that wrote those books had some fucked up fetishes
>>68207374
threaten him to put him to sleep and give him a sex change haha that would terrify them
>>68207390
drowning or starving to death
I remember reading about a guy who got stuck in a cave and they couldn't get him out despite hundreds of people being there and he died despite all their efforts
>this thread
>>68207497
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705347362/Man-trapped-in-Utah-Countys-Nutty-Putty-cave-dies.html?pg=all
>>68207489
I like the way you think anon. Maybe we put Mohammed to sleep and when he wakes up he's missing a few limbs and some genitals.
Just let FKMTO handle it.
>>68207449
difference is..greek philosophy crept in along with catholism.
we reformed and embraced science and progression hence why the church is more liberal now.
islam is not...it is regressive and refuses to adapt to modern times while coming into our land
if they do not bend islam to fit in...then it will break.
im aware they have grudges against america that stems back to the 70s regarding oil and all that.
its not that i dont understand...i just dont care.
the west can do what it wants...anyone stands in its way gets the bash.
>>68205868
>torture muslims just for fun
I'd love to, but don't forget many were born in these kinds of families and have very little education.
It'd be better to either kill them or educate them.
>>68207374
Put him under surgically replace certain parts of his body with that of a pig
>>68204892
kek, i was in this thread
>>68207644
I am actually against Islam as a whole. I don't like Islam or it's teachings. That doesn't mean I hate muslims. I would rather see Islam cast away as a whole with it's leaders held responsible for it's crimes against humanity, but the greater amount of followers spared.
>>68207489
>>68207597
Also, put him on hormones to fully transform him into a woman.
It would be hillarious.
"Put on your hijab you filthy whore!"
>>68207792
>>68207792
when i say muslims..i mean the ideology itself AND its followers
arabs who are any other religion or atheist i dont mind desu.
its about defending against theocratical encroachment not a racial issue.
i would wear 3d glasses and eat popcorn watching a white muslim get tortured also.
they are no longer human in my eyes once they embrace islam..i felt more sympathy for the poor animals in syrias zoos who starved than the migrants.
>>68207863
gonna take him out on a date too, hans?
>>68207453
The dictionary definition is NOT the legal definition
Kazynski was charged as a terrorist
As was David Hull.
>>68207361
And what happens if you ever do?
>>68207870
Again "Islam" vs "Muslim" I'd wager most religious texts from any religion say something to this effect.
>>68204383
300 hours john oliver with no sleep.
>>68207938
I'm not into trannies.
But I'd love to watch his pain and suffering.
>>68207934
Think what you want them. I don't want to hate people anymore. When ever I look at acts of Islamic terrorism, I just feel pity and disgust.
>>68207582
this made me anxious af, thanks it had been years since felt that cold on the spine.
>>68205183
If there is evidence that if I torturer people to get information that could save lives I'd do it in a heart beat. 300 lives mean more to me than 20.
>>68206104
Then you're as ignorant of history as you are of warfare. Every existential conflict is bent on the total annihilation of the enemy group. Trying to convince the people that you're shooting that you're actually the good guys is an impossible task.
>>68206151
As a man who has renewed many old decks I can tell you that belt sanders fucking suck
>>68207941
>>68205986
It's true. Our "torture" these days is done entirely by shrinks.
>>68207683
Education is wasted on them. They're genetically predisposed to retardation, and they all worship moehommad.
>>68208117
Your muslim population is low....you will come to hate them just as much as europe in time lol
this is what my old hometown looks like now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcuWqw2tT8
i moved after they burned down the church
>>68207582
Holy fuck why do people do that shit to begin with. That's spoopy just thinking about it.
>>68208240
Those animals. How can you let them do this? Why haven't you killed them all?
>>68206151
Nah, that stuff is still pretty easy to break, it might hurt your fingers a little but it still is better than the alternative.
T. Worked in a woodshop for 3 years
>>68205503
>>68207582
Ive been potholing before in torkshire...it was fun
why and how the fuck did the guy die?
>>68208434
Why not use something like tank tracks with sections of plates that are ground down exceptionally roughly? Shit you could just use those people movers at an airport but with sharp but tiny ass blades at the receiving end?
>>68207952
Ah I see, so "read the quran :^)" is only the go-to argument if you disregard the bad parts of the quran?
Could we have some consistency?
>>68208168
And yet what i posted is still true. And here i am watching an aussie try to tell me something about my country that is just not the reality.
>>68208434
>>68206151
tbqh you could just epoxy it down, you really wouldn't be able to rip it up
>>68208378
ill do somert about it with the brexit vote and then vote for ukip at the next elections.
many are tired of it now...its time we started to make them feel that unwelcome they move to canada
cuts to benefits and migration and dying pc culture will mean they will move to canada to take advantage of the fresh progressive govt and neetbux
Remove their limbs, strap them to a metal plate, attach wheels to their now stumps, put a motor on their back, and throw a bag of explosives on them. You now have a reverse jihadi rc car-man.
>>68206751
A three second google search on the fact that before they dropped the bombs they also dropped vast quantities of flyers saying they were going to target certain citys. Why torturer a man when you already have evidence that the Americans have the ability and resources.
>>68206903
hehehe top kek
>>68208680
You're too good for them. They should be burned out.
>>68204383
MKultra
>>68208240
The only way, the ONLY WAY for Muslims to integrate is to force them. If the imams tell the flock to disobey the government, disappear them in the middle of the night. Vet every pronouncement they make, detain them indefinitely without trial if you don't like it. If they try to enforce their Sharia law over the government, arrest everyone concerned.
They must fear the law before they fear Allah. If they make trouble at an eating place for not serving halal food, arrest them and give them the shittiest, technically halal prison rations you can find (I hear bread and water counts).
Friend of mine worked for consulting firm abroad in the Middle East advising private military or mercenary groups like black water. They used women to interrogate Islamists. They would make them choose to be slapped by women with bloody hands. One was dipped in pigs blood. The other in "menstrual". He was never sure if it was actual menstrual blood but the look of horror on their faces when they had to make the decision was priceless he said.
>>68208842
same reason why you aint walked into compton yet and turned into a 1 man klan
it would give them a real reason to cry victim.
better to do what you guys are doing...put someone like trump in charge.
>/pol/ hates Islam because it makes them act like savages
>Thinks they can solve it via savagery
Lmao this thread is the definition of niggery, look at all you backwood hicks chimping out, the double think in this thread is astounding
>>68204383
>>68208938
>implying they ever stopped
>>68204383
torture without purpose is a waste of money, truly a stain on a capitalist utopia.
Forced labor is where it's at, the wall aint going to build it's fucking self.
>>68209090
its not like its seriously going to happen. Trumps bringing back waterboarding and cigarette burns to the ball sack. Thats about it.
>>68209117
But hey only use MKultra methods on American citizens. I wanna see it turned on our real enemies.
>>68209061
I live on the opposite side of the country from Compton, and couldn't care less what they do there.
Meanwhile, as vile as blacks can be, they're an overrated threat that we are genociding through abortion. There's no reason to kill them.
Muslims, on the other hand, are going to destroy England.
>>68209055
None of that happened.
>>68204383
I'd be really nice to the prisoners. I'd take them on walks in the sunlight, Id cook halal meals for them and let them have picnics. I'd give them designated prayer time every day, and even give them prayer Matt's for their silly little Mecca prayers. Over time, they'd grow comfortable, and see the West isn't so bad. They'd start to open up and give me the Intel I need. And once they gave me all the information I needed, I'd reveal that all of their meals were cooked with prok grease, and that I tampered with the compases, so that they were praying in the direction of jeruselum, not Mecca. As they break down sobbing, I'll invite in some fucked up homosexual's who have a thing for hairy men. Id leave the room as I hear the men pin them down and anally fuck them. In the eyes of the middle East, the catcher is the sinner. The pitcher isn't gay, only the catcher. I'd then come back, and leave a sword. The prisoners would be so broken down and confused, that they'll commit suicide and die infidels. Not as martyrs.
>>68209185
>sideways canada without a leaf
>>68209090
No..you speak the laungage that it understands
they dont know what peace or co existance means
so you do it in a way they understand...violence
if you cant hug them into submission beat them into it instead.
>>68204383
Australian shitposting
>>68209117
pls dont be dead
>>68206104
I have never read such pussified bullshit in my entire life.
Are you sure your not Canadian?
>>68209181
the pushback has begun anon
pc culture that they rely on is crumbling..it will collapse post brexit because we will not have EU propaganda shoved down our throats no more.
benefits and hand outs and the something for nothing culture has ended now.
migration abuse has ended also...you will need to earn over 30k and pass a tough english test within 3 years or you are deported now.
sure the ones born here wont be deported...but when you slowly start to grow intolerant of islam they will flee to the next place for a better life.
that will be canada or sweden.
and muslims aint as numerous as you think
>>68206104
Attempting to argue to a group that you have their best interests in mind by burning their cities and slaughtering their military aged men is quite possibly one of the dumbest strategies I've ever heard. That is literally autistic. You fight a war to defend your country to take the land, money, resources of another country.
>>68209229
Jesus Christ stop typing like a such a faggot, your high school angst is showing. There are better ways to obtain information. Do you really want to be mentally scaring our own citizens like that? For one there is no way that a psychopath who enjoys torturing should be trusted with such vital information and getting a sane person to do the torturing is going to fuck them up mentally as well dude. Grow a fuckin brain.
>>68209169
>Implying it isn't the principle
People in here literally think we should be making our own citizens torture people on a whim just in case we get some information which could be sourced better in different ways.
>>68210066
what does the aussie chicken say?
cuck cuck cuck
>>68210137
>If you don't enjoy torturing people you're a cuck
Sure thing bud
>>68204383
Roman rape giraffe
Trust me we need this
>>68210066
but im not joking
Well probably this. You put someone in a metal box with machines whacking the box with rubber drum sticks or percussion mallet randomly. Fill it quarter away with water so that when ever the prisoner pisses himself he is exposed to the nasty shit. Imagine being in a dark metal box filled with piss and shit being whacked at random intervals that just echos through out the box.
This lion has kill dozens of innocent family of deer, buffalo, and antelope then eat them even as alive.
Now you caged her. What torture are the best before kill this natural terror bitch?
what? theres nothing wrong about torturing this dangerous bitch? she kill dozens of innocents, think about that.
Use pic related on them.
But rather than crushing their heads with it, use it to prevent them from turning their heads as you show them endless reruns of The Big Bang Theory.
>>68208513
They actually managed to pull him up after 24 hrs, fed him etc. but then the equipment failed and he got lodged in the same spot again.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705347362/Man-trapped-in-Utah-Countys-Nutty-Putty-cave-dies.html?pg=all
>>68212100
Fuck, how inhumane can you get? Even terrorists don't deserve that.
>>68212100
Please, we're not animals here.
>>68204383
Sensory Deprivation + Binaural/Isochronic tones. Lock them in a dark, luke warm room with soundproofing, which induces a state of madness. Binaural and isochonic tones induce erratic brainwaves which can cause twitching, seizures and erratic thoughts. This will really make them crack if you leave them in there for a few days.
>>68206260
>It gives you the illusion of drowning
It's not an ilusion. If the process continues, you will drown. People have drowned from this.
