Literally Trumps worst case scenario is this map
just wait for him to destroy Shillary
>>68201351
This is what a Trump/Webb ticket looks like
I have better odds of being the Republican nominee than Michigan going red
>>68201538
go away ted
>>68201538
That's accurate Rato, because I live in Michigan and the trump craze is real, but nobody will vote for you
>>68201351
If Trump doesn't choose Webb, he's not getting it unless he's really lucky.
The current polling situation.
>>68201795
Oh the joys of nonrandom selection and having an accurate representation of the population
>>68202130
That'll change
>>68202130
nice bait
>>68201351
would you guys be happy with Webb as VP? I really like Carson but I'm not sure its a boost to win.
>>68202130
With Jim Webb as Vp Virginia and Ohio go red and Trump wins.
>>68202326
Note that Texas is not too strong for Trump, and Arizona is in play.
>>68202434
Carson would alienate some people.
Webb would bring a lot more with his moderate views and his "literally who" status.
>>68202434
TRUMP NEEDS VIRGINIA. ONLY WEBB CAN SECURE IT FOR HIM. NONE OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE A CONNECTION TO THE STATE
>>68202130
>Clinton
>Ohio
>>68202457
What is with all the Jim Webb shills? There's no way Trump will pick him, and he is not going to make Trump any more popular.
>>68202434
We had a VP strawpoll he won with like 500 votes.
>>68202588
You know, as opposed to real likable guys like Kasich, Cruz, and Christie.
>>68202514
This VP connection to state X idea has not panned out in the modern era.
>>68201351
>a stupid pro trump delusional map
>west virginia
>the most repiled state
>blue
AUTISM
>>68202588
It means he wins Virginia so he can put the rest of his focus in Ohio. It makes too much sense. The indpendens and soft dems will vote for him.
>>68202492
wow kiddo you are going all out
>>68202651
A straw poll of /pol/? That's not remotely useful.
>>68201351
How deluded can you get? Trump is going to overturn a 30 point deficit in NY against a senator from NY?
>>68202691
You can't read at a fourth grade level and be redpilled.
>>68202754
What? The question was is /pol/ okay with him and /pol/ overwhelmingly is. In fact even that seems to be an understatement.
>>68202515
>>68202700
This is what the polling is showing right now.
Recall how Republicans were so convinced that the polls were wrong in 2012 that Romney hadn't written a concession speech.
>>68202689
He has been both a Republican, and Democrat and is extremely popular here in Virginia. And was a senator in the state. It's not the normal "choose a VP from a target state thing." Plus he is liked in the Rustbelt states. You just don't want Trump picking him because you know Trump would win. You want him to pick someone stupid like Palin.
>>68202890
Says some limey.
>>68202958
Planes exist. Not my fault jewt added flags to a board where they would just stifle all conversation before he fucked off.
>>68201538
too bad there was greater republican turnout in the MI primary than democrat turnout. MI is absolutely already red. nice try beaver bitch.
>mfw pierre doesn't get to prep the bull moose tonight and this makes him experience a serious bout of impotent rage
>>68201351
pretty accurate breh. i think PA is going red since it's part of the rust belt and they won't get the kind of turn out that obama got from them in the past. same with WV.
WI could maybe go red, while OR and ME are toss ups. either way, he wins in a landslide.
>>68202915
Polls mean nothing until the running mates are announced, and the first presidential debates have taken place.
>>68202938
I really don't see it happening. Has Trump ever said one word about Webb? Has Webb indicated that he would like to have anything to do with Trump?
>>68203078
>/mlp/
You have my sympathy.
Still probably right tho.
>>68201351
Illinois might actually go Trump this election
>>68203054
Too bad the same people who voted Kasich/Rubio in the primary will be voting Hillary in November you cuck
>>68203063
When Webb was considering an indie run Trump said that he'd be a "wonderful" independent candidate and that he wasn't registerin as a Dem. Webb has said that he is 100% never going to vote for Shillary and opened the door to throwing his support behind Trump.
>>68203078
>>OH
Ohio is likely, and Michigan could with Carson.The rest no.
>>68201351
>PA blue
I don't necessarily doubt it, but philly fag here and the niggers love him. Whites too.
>>68203063
All Trump has said about Webb is that Webb should look into running independent and that he didn't seem like a democrat on the debate stage.
Webb has implied he'd support Trump over Clinton by saying he would never vote for Clinton and that he isn't sure about Trump yet
>>68203216
Registering as in coming across as, not as in literally registering party membership.
I feel like I've heard of too many people in my local state(NC) that will literally vote for anyone other than Trump/ Sure, he has support, but this board really does underestimate how many people will literally vote against Trump out of principle. He's gonna to have to have more of a platform than just "Build wall" if he's ever going to woo voters who literally hate him for being him.
>>68203062
Really? That's funny, because the polls in March 2012 consistently had Obama beating Romney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Before_Convention_Nominations
>>68201351
I can guarantee that at least 8 of those states that are red will be blue come election time.
>>68203208
pierre is experiencing EXTREME amounts of denial
keep on whining and showing off how ignorant you are faggot
my piping hot patriotic boner loves using your cuckold tears as lubricant LMFAO
>>68203277
Well, I stand corrected. He seems to be maneuvering for a VP slot. Maybe some of these Webb shills here are paid by Webb?
>>68203304
Because Romney was a dull candidate. Polls are usually run by liberals and they don't want to say good things about Trump. Plus it's difficult to beat the incumbent. No two presidential elections are alike.
>>68203477
Then we need the board to stop comparing Reagan's to Trump's. ;^)
>>68203449
>Webb
>Money
Also you must be really new, before he dropped out we had several Webb generals daily for a solid month after the debates.
>>68203449
Webb has literally no ground game. For the week or so that /pol/ was split between Trump and Webb, the Webb threads had more organization and OC than his campaign. No way there are paid shills here. I like him as an option for VP, but if he is maneuvering for a position it's likely Secretary of State or Defense.
>>68203291
Nah Trumpies fly under the radar so people who disagree with them won't attack them or set their car on fire. Behind the voting curtain they will relax and be themselves, you'll see!
>>68203562
There are a lot more similarities between Reagan and Trump than between Trump and Romney...
>>68203562
You're right. Trump is superior to Reagan.
>>68203054
Yeah. The amount of republican voters that have showed up during the primaries is so much higher than the democrats. Ohio, Michigan, and Florida by sheer volume will go red. And that is before the large percentage of Sanders' supporters that will not for Clinton. And beyond that, a lot of Sanders' voters that won't vote for Clinton say they will vote Trump. This is the republicans year barring something really shady at the RNC convention.
>>68203610
If that were the case he'd be doing better in the primaries. We've had how many open/semi-closed primaries and Trump has broken 50% of the vote once? If independents don't make up the support he lacks from base republicans, he's fucked. NC will go back blue and maybe even GA.
>>68203727
This.
>>68203961
>Georgia blue
Lol absolutely not
>>68201351
CA might go red as well, when Arnold increased turnout in 2002 and 2006 people voted for him even onhttp://i.4cdn.org/pol/1458539149083.png split tickets (ie dem assemblymember, but rep governor). It all depends on turnout.
PA could go red as well, because of Hilary's gaffe regarding coal.
LOOK AT ALL THE CLINTON AND RAT FACE shills.
>>68201351
Sorry but illinois is gonna be red this time around
>>68204083
>PA could go red as well, because of Hilary's gaffe regarding coal.
Are you saying Hillary is going to pay a toll?
>>68204083
>CA going red
hahahah
>>68204162
>>68204083
don't worry, this is my worst case scenario map
>>68203477
So, the polls must be wrong why?
Why is everyone mentioning Jim Webb?
Did Trump name him as a possible VP?
>>68204083
>CA might go red as well
I want Trump to win as much as the next guy but even I can't come up with a good enough reason to think that. New York could go red though.
>>68204398
It seems to be a /pol/-only phenomenon and can safely be ignored.
>>68204398
JIM WEBB IS THE SOON TO BE RUNNING MATE OF TRUMP, AND SOON TO BE VP OF THE UNITED STATES. YOU WILL BE HEARING HIS NAME ALLOT.
>>68204470
Let's try to meme a Trump/ Webb ticket into existence.
>>68201538
But you already are
>>68201351
>thinking that primary turnout translates to GE turnout
>thinking that Trump will win NY and every mehican state
I like Trump, but it's gonna be close.
>>68204398
Because he is a based democrat and would be a better choice for Trump than any of the cuckervatives GOPe stooges like Kasich.
>>68204398
Because he's based.
And we hate all the Republicans for trying to fuck Trump over.
>>68204774
>>68202222
quads command it
>Oregon hipster utopia and DUDE WEED LMAO Colorado voting red
>Trump winning any Jew England state
And I thought that faggots who claimed Arizona is going to vote blue was deluded
>>68205130
>LMAO Colorado voting red
Trump is leading in every Colorado poll
Trump polls well in NH
>All these republicans in the bubble
>WA
>Blue
Seattle isn't going to fuck the rest of us up this time.
>>68201351
yup 100% correct OP and not retarded trumptard logic
you guys know trying to predict this shit several months ahead of the election is utterly pointless right
go do something productive with your time
>>68205298
>General election poll
>March
I guess I'm retarded guys
>>68203727
>You're right. Trump is superior to Reagan.
Both are shit faggot. Eat shit and die. Your trickle down cut taxes for the rich destroy our country.
>>68204839
i think the left has gotten so absorbed with their obama clinton/ GOP is crumbling circlejerk they've forgotten they have to pander to swing voters too.
hillary is playing identity politics right and left (muh vagina, muh privilege) and I'll be very surprised if it doesn't bite her in the ass
>>68205344
>I guess I'm retarded guys
>march 2012
>Obama polling higher than Romney
Eat shit trumpfags.
>>68205200
Polls are primarily done on landlines, guess who the only people to still have those are?
Old, white, racist trump voters.
Democrats always come out with a bigger turnout.
>>68205431
>Comparing a completely different election with an incumbent
>Doesn't realize this isn't 2012
Lol nice try kike
>>68205431
>Huffpost
Why even use that if you're trying to make a point?
>autism: the thread
Thanks guys for the new version of this meme
>>68205298
>>68205431
>>68205540
Stop waste your time with these people
>>68205402
I'd like to agree with you, but the setup the Dems have right now is one where they can literally import new voters. That is a political goose that lays golden eggs.
Just look what they did in California, you don't even have to be a citizen to vote.
>>68205458
Trumpfags are way too fucking stupid to figure his out anon. They live in meme animu fantasy world where trump will "make America great again."
This is what happens when all empires start collapsing. The American empire is headed towards it's twilight phase.
>>68205542
>Lol nice try kike
More example of trumptards racism ladies and gentlemen.
Trump's polling numbers among minorities, women, LGBTs, etc. is in the fucking toilet. He can only win the most whitest and racist of states. If you think otherwise you are the stupidest fucktard on the planet.
Don't forget Hillary's future indictment. The DNC will be fucked
>>68205458
Blacks and Hispanics are more racist than whites. If you talk to me like that again, I will get your IP and you will be in deep shit. I promise you that. I will give you one chance to apologize. If you don't you and your family are in for a big surprise. Watch your back. I feel bad for anyone who lives with you.
>>68205790
>an individual using racial slurs has all opinions and works disregarded
>"It's the fall of the Roman Empire man! I mean we were wrong these other times but this time it's for real!"
You call Trump supporters stupid, wew lad.
>He can only win the most racist states
Good thing Hispanics and Blacks are racist.
>>68205431
holy shit, for all intents and purposes trump eliminated the deficit from june to mid august 2015 and this is without even running against her
The only advantage Trump has in the general election is he is impervious to verbal attacks, he shrugs them off, and he can make personal attacks out of thin fucking air and they're going to stick, so it is generally tough that Clinton cannot say something she's for without Trump using something personal to say she isn't. However, I still don't see Trump getting that phat 51% of electoral votes or more in November. I'd fucking support him if he actually released some type of economic polices past "build wall"
>>68206098
>Good thing Hispanics and Blacks are racist.
But they fucking hate Trump thou.
>>68206161
>holy shit, for all intents and purposes trump eliminated the deficit from june to mid august 2015 and this is without even running against her
don't worry once all of his insane GOP primary rhetoric is thrown on the air waves he's finished.
>>68206199
>I'd fucking support him if he actually released some type of economic polices past "build wall"
Meme candidates don't have economic policies. Only memes. Why can't you guys realize this whole candidacy is the biggest joke in American history?
>>68206334
lol, you're so pathetic carl
>>68206199
>>68206388
He does have economic policies you retarded shills
>>68206388
Oh I know, it's a dank meme. But some people are here take him seriously, like he'd actually be good for the country.
>>68206440
>He does have economic policies you retarded shills
meme economics for a meme candidate.
This policies are literally just continuation of Reagan/Bush Jr. supply side economics. Big tax cuts for himself and his elite friends.
>>68203208
>Too bad the same people who voted Kasich/Rubio in the primary will be voting Hillary in November you cuck
>>68206388
>>68206199
>no policies
Eat shit, shills.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
>The only advantage Trump has in the general election is he is impervious to verbal attacks
There's also the fact that Clinton is about to face the shitstorm of her life with the whole FBI indictment/leaks. And the fact that Clinton has an "unfavourable" rating of over 50% with the American people. And the endless list of scandals that Trump can pull out at any moment (not just the emails, but Benghazi, Whitewater, Bill's affairs, etc).
>>68205652
Do you have the Romney one?
>>68206494
>>68206494
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
>Removing income tax on low-income earners is supply side economics
Don't you have an ECON101 class to sleep through?
>>68206621
there's no use trying to educate them. when they say "Trump has no policies" they just mean that they don't like his policies but don't feel confident trying to debate them
California will go red for Trump. Calling it now. Screencap this.
>>68206651
sure
>>68206621
>6 policies.
TOP KEK.
You're the front runner of a political party about to be in a general election. All these policies look like someone watch a 2012 GOp debate and wrote them up in a day.
>>68206922
So much delusion.
>>68206757
I'm still on the table about Trump, I actually appreciate the info people are providing. I don't agree with the Tax cuts because I don't see them working, perhaps they will. His policies on China trade are fairly vague, and worrisome. The rest of his policies I can honestly agree with, he just doesn't touch the deficit much and that concerns me.
>>68205790
>Trump's polling numbers among minorities, women, LGBTs
And also highly educated: support decreases. It's the same story in every states.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/
>>68206757
Yep, standard shill move. If you can't argue against it, just try to gaslight your opponents by denying reality.
>>68206977
He obviously has more policies than that, and you would know this if you bothered to listen to his speeches. You are obviously a low information voter.
Plus, why would he release a full manifesto at this point, before the convention, or even having decided on a VP or cabinet? You obviously don't follow politics much.
>>68207313
>>68207348
>>68207360
>>68202130
Just wait for the first one on one debate.
>>68207313
you are telling us that the people who go through a politically correct brainwashing factory are less likely to vote for a person who is against politically correct shit?
shocking.
>people who's jobs are threatened by illegal immigrants are more likely to feel threatened by illegal immigrants
In other news, fish swim and jews lie.
>>68207339
>Every other candidate has 10 or more policies listed
Friend, there's no reason to be hostile toward me, I'm simply asking questions and shooting the piss. I've heard plenty of his speeches, have watched 3/4ths of the debates, and have even followed what people put in Trump generals. Everything so far has been pretty vague. I get that it's still early, but it's not that early. He's got to start moving in a position to win more independents like myself.
>>68206731
>https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/
>6 issues
Jesus fucking christ
>>68207313
You also know that illegals are not competing for jobs with people who have POSTGRADUATE DEGREES! Holy shit people see this and they think only dumb people like Trump and smart people don't. Well let me tell you if those fucks coming cross the border were under cutting and depressing the wages of doctors, lawyers and university professors instead of gardeners, cooks and construction workers. You would see a lot more people with post graduate degrees supporting Trump.
>>68208341
DA TOOK OUR JOBS
>>68207546
Sorry pham, I'm not trying to be a dick.
It's pretty vague because he has no reason to provide a full list of policies at this point. Hitting on his key issues and showing leadership is enough to win votes, and anything else would be needlessly divisive in a race that's already splitting the party apart. For example, why would he lay out a stance on Guantanamo or gay marriage when he'll only piss off half the party that he's trying to unite? These are obviously issues that he'll deal with though, in good time. They're issues that he's mentioned in passing too, but he's clearly not going to commit them to a manifesto just yet. He's in a very unique and pretty fragile position, don't forget.
Finally, those 6 positions are hardly simple 1 line pledges. They're pretty long and decently fleshed out, and you could easily split them up into a couple dozen separate pledges if you wanted to.
>>68208011
Oh wow look it's the shit that actually matters and not whether a transpickup omnisexual quatrogender faggotkin who identifies as female nigger can shit in a urinal legally.
Althought I'm honestly interested to hear what else you think should even be there.
>>68208381
it's true, you retard. anyway, what is an issue that you think Trump has not talked about or put on his website?
>>68208429
I see your point, only thing I'm concerned about is how he'll keep the financial sector in check. Currently starting a small business in the last thing I need in the banks to start doing even more slimy shit to rekt# the rest of the economy. I don't believe wallstreet should be taxed like Sanders proposes, However I will definitely vote for Trump if he gives me some type of indication that he won't allow Financial Institutions to do what they did under Clinton/Bush. (Side note, I work in finances currently)
This is a dream scenario. The Don will face many tribulations vs the Clinton lizard.
>>68205387
God damn did redditt invade 4chan? See the fucking Clinton economic boom. Trickle down works you God damn commie
>>68208705
I can't find any solid proposals, but he has said some very harsh things in that general direction (eg. he attacked huge CEO pay, he wants to close Wall St tax loopholes). He'll obviously come out with a formal plan at some point, but the general direction he seems to be going is total reform rather than just tightening current regulations/strengthening current institutions.
>>68209273
I'll decide then. Many voters are not like me, they won;t decide candidates on policy, but there is still a percentage of us who look at policies so I don't think you Trump supporters should take that for granted. Like I said I'm in NC, and I could easily not vote because fuck you.
>>68208381
For a lot of people that's true. I myself am a truck driver and those spics are everywhere. But its not just illegals. There is a bunch of eastern yurofags too. It fucking sucks out here. Pay is to low for most young whites to do it. But there are slaves and spics that will do it. Just not enough, so there is a driver shortage. And the only way to get more drivers is to raise the pay but that means raising shipping prices and no one will do that.
>>68203961
At the worst Arizona, Montana and Missouri and less than 8 difference in Texas with Hillary taking all the states Obama took in 08. At best for trump is taking florida ohio and hillary takes none of those potentials said above.
Based on polling though, he is fucked if bernie, though unlikely gets the nomination. I mean all these would go and maybe more according to polling.
>>68202222
PRAISE KEK
Do you guys actually think Trump will win big big one?
The Trump Train has no brakes in the primaries but I don't know how it's going to fare on the biggest stage of all. Thus far he's won by attracting dissatisfied conservatives. How is he going to attract potential Dem voters?
>>68202457
webb isn't really as popular in VA as people think. He was a senator for one term, didn't run again, and is pretty low key overall. VA has a huge federal government presence in NOVA and Hampton Roads, it's not going to Trump.
>>68209443
Get a better job. This is why you will never get pussy.
>>68204197
no see her comments regarding the coal industry
>>68209618
Trump will definitely not win the general.
>>68204278
>>68204418
Again, see Arnold. He increased turnout and people voted for him on split tickets. If he can do it, so can Trump.
>>68209618
If the election was today he'd be destroyed but things can possibly change. Potential terrorist attacks can help him, if the economy goes south it could help him as well. If this was any year I'd be 99% Clinton would beat Trump in a landslide but given how unconventional this season is + meme magic I'm more like 80% confident.
I feel really, really bad for the people who have actually convinced themselves that Trump can win.
Save this post, please.
>>68209826
done thank you anon.
>>68205654
That has been the case since 1900. It's how Wilson (a Democrat) was elected in 1913. The same thing will occur: they'll be a pushback against immigration (the quota system began in 1920) while immigrants gentry upwards. By 1950 and 1960, catholic irish and italians were 50/50 split on parties as they had become "white".
Mexicans are no different, especially when the current wave of immigrants are sudacas that they already hate.
>>68209706
there are not enough jobs for how many people there are. Rub your 2 brain cells together and try to understand that
>>68209826
Cool opinion, take it to reddit.
>>68209918
>there are not enough jobs for how many people there are. Rub your 2 brain cells together and try to understand that
But you'll vote GOP, the party that keeps opposing any job bills Democrats have pushed.
>>68209618
yes, if only because he will win the debates and every idiot will come out and vote for him based on his "star power" alone. Such cases with televised debates, actors can easily hijack them. Trump is playing the same game Reagan did in 1980.
>>68209728
Wrong. Hilary is low energy in the sense that nobody likes her. She's just "not a republican". That's not enough when the other guy is a celebrity with a name brand spouting off one-liners. Hilary couldn't even win her own primary against a nigger in a year that was a slam dunk for her.
>>68209970
>Hilary is low energy
meme logic for meme candidate supporters
>>68209706
>>68209706
Yup cause getting a better job is super easy. That's why millions are unemployed under employed.
>>68209940
>anyone who challenges my fragile little world view is from Reddit
Grow up, kid. The electoral college heavily favors the Dems. VA, FL, and PA are pretty much permanently blue now.
>>68210044
>Yup cause getting a better job is super easy. That's why millions are unemployed under employed.
See >>68209947
>>68201351
Lets dispel this fiction that Trump can win New York, sure he'll do very well in Staten island Long Island and Upstate NY. But New York city where 45% (8.5 MIllion) of New Yorkers live will not vote for Trump, We all know how liberal cities are.
>>68209947
You can't magically create jobs with a bill, and even if you could, the presence of illegal immigrants would still reduce wages and increase unemployment.
>>68209728
Whats the future like?
Any terror attacks coming up? I'd like to know where to avoid
>>68210047
>VA, FL, and PA are pretty much permanently blue now.
This guy gets it.
Large percentage of Latinos have come into those states. My county I live in PA we have a lot of South East Asian people, mainly Indians, come here and they are all super wealthy, smart, and liberal democrats.
>>68210144
And MI not to mention texas is going to become a swing state. The GOP is fucked
>>68210093
>You can't magically create jobs with a bill,
Yes you can.
>>68210011
It's not "meme logic". It's a way of saying that Hilary's brand is weak. Ask someone what they think of her, either they don't care or think she's a liar. She's not anyone's first choice if given a broader range of moderate democrats.
Meanwhile Trump is someone that normalfags know and can respect. His name is literally a brand his able to license out.
>>68210072
>2012
since sandy hook the GOP run the NY Senate in Albany. If Hilary is the nominee all the progressives will stay home while (formerly) blue collar dems will push Trump to 51%
>>68210213
>Meanwhile Trump is someone that normalfags know and can respect.
A black guy, normally doesn't follow politics, asked me about trump at work a few days ago. He said trump was a racist piece of shit. That's what your average person thinks of Trump.
>>68210270
>since sandy hook the GOP run the NY Senate in Albany.
NY Senate will swing back to Democrats this year.
>>68206757
Donald "The 6 plan man" Trump lmao please.
President Clinton has 29 on her page and she actually can get them passed.
>>68210047
>VA, FL, and PA are pretty much permanently blue now.
Source: your ass. These states are swing states for a reason, and calling shots in fucking March for the generals is retarded.
>>68209618
Fair and unbiased med--
Fuck me I couldn't even say it in jest.
>>68210144
lol. But I bet you don't like to bring up those rich Asian people when you are whining about white privilege, do you? Frankly, you seem like a troll; I doubt you believe what you are saying. I'm going to disengage.
>>68210144
>FL
>blue
FL is currently run by a GOP ultramajority, the Republicans control the Assembly, state Senate and Rick Scott is the Governor. FL is Republican if only due to gerrymandering. PA is leaning red again due to the destruction of manufacturing jobs.
Better enlargements would be for Texas or Arizona.
>>68209947
>job bills
Didn't Obongo's stimulus cost like $50k per job? If you want government projects look no further than the wall.
>>68210336
>Source: your ass.
Source: polling and demographic trends
America is becoming less and less white every year. This is literally the last election you can run a racist white nationalist Trump candidacy.
>>68210278
and niggers don't vote, the average voter is over age 35 and white
>>68210380
>enlargements
*arguments
>>68210442
>and niggers don't vote,
They vote about on average as white folks in 2012 election you racist cracker piece of shit.
Can't wait for you crackers to get what's coming to you.
>>68208429
>He has no reason to provide a full list of policies at this point
He's running for the Presidency of the United States...
>>68210380
The problem is Rick Scott is going to fuck it up. He is a horrible. And Alan grayson or Patrick Murphy are going to take the senate seat.
>>68210441
>Borders are racist.
>Islam is a race.
>>68210441
>Source: polling and demographic trends
Polling indicates that turnout amongst minorities will continue to be low, allowing the GOP to continue running the state. PA is shedding manufacturing jobs and Pittsburgh has lost a quarter of it's population since 1990. Then there's Hilary's comments on the coal industry, which along with the TPP pisses off blue steel Democrats.
>>68210380
>FL is currently run by a GOP ultramajority,
Gerrymandering
>PA is leaning red again due to the destruction of manufacturing jobs.
Not even close.
I'm from PA, I voted for Governor Thom Wolff, who crushed Republican Thom Corbett. The PA Supreme Court has gone Democratic. All of the state wide offices are Democratic expect Pat Toomey.
Eat shit faglord. You don't know shit about my state.
People: Stop engaging this jseu5yzy guy. He is a fellow Trump supporter who is pretending to be a democrat to make their arguments look even worse than they are.
>>68210441
>Source: polling and demographic trends
What part of "we are 8 months away from November" are you not able to understand? Trump will polish his image as the 'presidential' candidate once he secures the R nomination to appeal to moderates. He will utterly destroy Clinton and reveal the massive closet of skeletons she has to the public. At the very least he is going to win over Florida and a few other swing states. That's not even talking about Republican voter turnout.
>racist white nationalist
Prove Trump is a racist.
>>68210491
>They vote about on average as white folks in 2012 election you racist cracker piece of shit.
>cracker
jej
In 2012 the Democrats aren't running a black guy from Chicago, they're running an old white woman from New York City.
>>68210588
Continue? They should up as much as white people...
>>68204759
>>68204839
yfw is Hillary who picks him as vp lmao
>>68210588
>PA is shedding manufacturing jobs and Pittsburgh has lost a quarter of it's population since 1990.
Yes thanks to Republican policies that Republicans pushed for.
LESS GUBMINT, MORE FREE TRADE
>Then there's Hilary's comments on the coal industry, which along with the TPP pisses off blue steel Democrats.
No it doesn't. It will be a 55% Clinton win in PA like in 2008.
There is no jim crow voter suppression law here, you Republicans are fucked.
Also Hillary does very well among older voters.
>>68210336
PA went blue with John Fucking Kerry as the nominee, 12 years ago.
PA is not a swing state anymore. Romney didn't even bother contesting it because he knew it was a lost cause.
The only true swing states left are Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina.
Hillary has already won.
>>68205652
We should start filling this in now here's mine.
>>68210072
>>68210554
Scott was re-elected in 2014, again with a GOP Supermajority. This was despite him killing FLHSR which was popular inside Miami and Orlando (though it was rebirthed as Brightline, and Scott provided them with interest-free bonds). He's doing fine, and has even endorsed Trump already.
>>68210665
>In 2012 the Democrats aren't running a black guy from Chicago, they're running an old white woman from New York City.
Why do you think blacks won't vote because Obama isn't running?
They will come out vote because Trump is a racist, you guys gutted the Voting Rights Act, and Clintons are loved among blacks.
You already lost.
>>68210779
>Scott was re-elected in 2014,
The highly unpopular governor who is only in office because of the Koch brothers and Democrats running a former Republican governor for crying out load. Won by 1% of the vote or something.
>>68210612
>Gerrymandering
It just werks
>I'm from PA, I voted for Governor Thom Wolff, who crushed Republican Thom Corbett. The PA Supreme Court has gone Democratic. All of the state wide offices are Democratic expect Pat Toomey.
Meanwhile both the state Assembly and state Senate are Republican. PA remains a swing state, but certainly won't be voting for Hilary since she has fucked her support with blue collar Democrats.
>>68210742
>No it doesn't. It will be a 55% Clinton win in PA like in 2008.
No, because of this:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-aid-coal-communities-215789
>>68210742
York "Pork" county here. Sleepy doctor received 3 times more donations than Drumpf.
>President Clinton will win PA again
>>68210878
>Meanwhile both the state Assembly and state Senate are Republican.
Yes thanks to gerrymandering. It has nothing to do with actual voters in the state or changing demographics. The state becomes more and more Latino every year.
Eat shit you middle PA cousin fucking slack jawed faggot.
>>68210743
That's because Romney is a shit candidate. Why the fuck do you think he lost?
>>68210864
and yet, he still won with a fully GOP legislature. FL is red otherwise at least the Assembly would be blue.
>>68210878
>but certainly won't be voting for Hilary since she has fucked her support with blue collar Democrats.
Where has she "fucked here support with blue collar Democrats?"
Who are these "blue collar Democrats" you speak of?
Every single poll shows Clinton winning PA, just like Obama in 2012 and 2008 and Kerry in 2004 and Gore in 2000 and Clinton in 1996 and 1992.
>>68211051
You realize that there are very few independent voters left, right?
People are mostly split down the middle. And the fact that you're going to have to learn to live with is that there are more Democrats in states like Ohio, PA, and Virginia who vote during election years.
>>68210995
>The state becomes more and more Latino every year.
And? It's not going to matter in 2016 since FL is still white. More stringent border policies will cut off the flow of new immigrants in, allowing current ones to gentrify upwards. It has occurred before, and will occur again.
>Eat shit you middle PA cousin fucking slack jawed faggot.
wow, someone's anal pained. Does the truth sting?
>>68211051
>and yet, he still won with a fully GOP legislature.
Yes a highly gerrymandered legislature that GOP drew up in 2010 after the tea party wave.
Again doesn't represent the average Florida vote.
You can't gerrymander a presidential election. Eat shit GOP fags. Faggots like you deserve to lose.
>>68211051
Romney won a huge percent of the white vote 60% I think, ronald reagan got 63%
>>68211102
Blue Collar Democrats that loose jobs become Republicans. PA is the Rust Belt. It's that easy. Look at how both Michigan and Wisconsin are GOP run despite previously being Democrat territory.
>>68210878
You said Gerrymandering. That's why the State house is Republican.
You have 2 Pennsylvanians telling you Hillary is winning without a doubt. Accept the fact that PA isn't supporting your meme candidate.
>>68211164
>You can't gerrymander a presidential election.
No, but minority turnout will still remain low.
>>68211179
He might have won 60% of the white vote, but whites didn't come out to vote.
>>68208011
>I don't understand the concept of small government
>>68210756
This is the 2016 version of the pro trumpfags delusion pic>>68206922
>>68211120
> It's not going to matter in 2016 since FL is still white.
You think Trump can seriously win florid after calling all Latinos rapists and calling Obama a Muslim born in Kenyan?
>wow, someone's anal pained. Does the truth sting?
I will vote voting for Clinton, and so will my whole family, straight Democrat. So yeah you can eat shit faggot.
>>68211189
>You have 2 Pennsylvanians telling you Hillary is winning without a doubt.
We have one redditor and probably his sockpuppet saying Hilary will win PA. Notice how they haven't proven anything, and have only resorted to the same response (demographic destiny) while ignoring pretty much everything that's happened in PA in the past six years.
>>68211243
>No, but minority turnout will still remain low.
So this is your strategy? Deny blacks and Latinos the right to vote! Wow what a winning strategy you Republifags have!
>>68211184
It's not as much as you think
>True, a flood of Chinese imports over the past 15 years has cost hordes of U.S. jobs. In a recent paper, three respected economists -- David Autor of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, David Dorn of the University of Zurich and Gordon Hanson of the University of California at San Diego -- estimated the loss of manufacturing jobs at 985,000 from 1999 to 2011.
>But this large number needs context. Over the same period, all U.S. manufacturing jobs dropped 5.8 million; the share caused by China was a bit less than one-fifth. When the economists added China's impact on non-manufacturing firms, the job decline more than doubles to 2.4 million. Still, that's less than 2 percent of total payroll employment of 131 million in 2011 and 143 million now.
>>68211243
Doubt it considering Drumpf pissed off every minority group.
They'll vote against him almost more than for President Clinton.
>>68211294
Are you delusional.
He painted the fucking entire state RED.
>>68202130
>forgetting that once the rest of the republicans drop out trump will just absorb the rest of the votes to avoid shillary
>>68211332
>everything that's happened in PA in the past six years.
Yes a Democratic governor, Democratic Supreme Court, Democratic statewide elected officials. Vote ID law struck down after Republicans said Romney would win PA with that law.
Homo eat shit you fucking faglord. You don't know shit about my state. I've lived here my whole fucking life. We aren't a bunch of cousin fuckers like you down south.
>>68211282
>Poorly educated love trump
>>68211282
notice how Ohio and PA have lots of coal mines
Hilary will not be winning either since now even the coal miners' unions refuse to endorse her.
>>68211274
>I don't understand the concept of running a 1st world country
>>68211386
>He painted the fucking entire state RED.
WHO painted the "entire state red"?
>>68211294
>I will vote voting for Clinton, and so will my whole family, straight Democrat. So yeah you can eat shit faggot.
ok, this argument is done then. Why don't you go back to your safe space?
>>68211434
>notice how Ohio and PA have lots of coal mines
PA doesn't want right to work laws that Trump and the GOP are pushing.
>>68211444
Trump, you cock-mongling spic. If you think Florida is going blue this year you're out of your mind.
>>68211245
The white vote declines 2% every year, because they are die.
if Trump is the GOP nomination more Latino and blacks will come out to vote.
>>68211341
minorities tend to be lower income, lower income people tend to vote less
>>68211522
>If you think Florida is going blue this year you're out of your mind.
Yes he'll win the stromfag vote. But blacks and Latinos and Asians and Jewish voters? No chance in hell.
It will be 55% Clinton. 38% Trump, the rest are third party.
>>68211512
yes but they also don't want to vote for someone who has literally promised to end their way of life and destroy their communities. Hilary has fucked up already and the primaries aren't even over.
>>68211548
>minorities tend to be lower income, lower income people tend to vote less
Yeah fuck minorities, fuck low income people! Only rich white people like trump should be allowed to vote!
>>68211556
Jews love Trump by the way.
>>68211434
They voted for Obama btw. Also my map is very conservative: Places like Nevada, Weedorado and Florida can be blue.
>>68211556
>third party
>7%
>>68211332
>le redditors!
Sore loser, eh?
>P-prove it!
Gee, let's see. Every Presidential election since 92?
>>68211592
I've stated a fact. Lower income people vote less. This means that Republicans can more easily win elections, especially if their turnout is increased (say, due to a celebrity running). See Arnold in 2002 and 2006, and Reagan in 1980 and 1984. All that matters is turnout, which is a thing Hilary totally sucks at since nobody likes her.
>>68211591
>yes but they also don't want to vote for someone who has literally promised to end their way of life and destroy their communities. Hilary has fucked up already and the primaries aren't even over.
When has she said that? Her policies are 100% in line with the average PA voter.
Trump on the other hand is an out of touch plutocrat running for president who said we need "low wages" for our workers. You better fucking believe that "low wages" will be in tv ads.
Regardless PA isn't a swing state. It's part of the Democrat states so I don't see why we are arguing over this. As I said before I've lived here my whole life and I'm been voting for years here.
>>68202130
>NC
>Blue
>>68211645
If Trump is the nominee. Republicans said they would run a third party candidate. So you can eat shit trumpfags.
>>68211647
>Notice how they haven't proven anything, and have only resorted to the same response (demographic destiny) while ignoring pretty much everything that's happened in PA in the past six years.
>>68211718
I know for a fact black people and Latinos will come out vote against Trump if he's the nominee. But you poor stormfaggo logic seems to not comprehend that.
>>68211724
>When has she said that? Her policies are 100% in line with the average PA voter.
Then why is the state legislature red? You're spouting off phrases you don't understand.
>>68211805
>Then why is the state legislature red?
I've said this 100% times already, GERRYMANDERING
>>68211754
they won't even be on the ballot in most states, do you even know why third parties don't work here?
>>68211805
Gerry mandering, off-year elections.
Republicans bring their people out reliably in the mid-terms.
>>68211794
No, they won't. More likely they just stay home, bitch about how shit the system is, and then watch Trump win. As was the case with Dubya in 2000 and 2004.
>>68211841
I said that, you didn't. Stop contradicting yourself.
Dumb fucking faggots don't know anything about my state.
This is what my state looked like in 2014 when I and millions of others voted for Governor Thom Wolf.
It's what the state will look like if meme racist Trump runs.
Chester County (where I live) tends to be very moderate voters and swing certain ways. Trump is far far to right wing and racist to wing those voters over.
>>68211754
That would be the best case scenario.
Republican party is kill and a new party, likely similar to trumps platform given his support, to fill the void. Worth four years of hill dog
>>68211745
>im retarded
>>68201351
i wish my state minnesota wasnt such a consistant liberal piece of shit
>>68211960
Sup fellow Chester County bro?
West Chester here.
>>68211761
For christ's sakes, you dense fuck.
We just ousted PA's first one-term Republican Governor. Attorney General? Dem. Auditor General? Dem. Supreme court? Dem.
PA has been blue since 92.
What more proof do you possibly need?
Fucking retard.
>>68212035
>West Chester here.
Coatesville/Thorndale area here.
How's it going on WC?
>>68212035
>>68211960
I hate my Pork county so much. Should be blue but Pennsyltucky is shit.
Also, it's TOM Wolf and TOM Corbett. Not sure why you keep adding letters.
>tfw this happens
>>68212222
>Also, it's TOM Wolf and TOM Corbett. Not sure why you keep adding letters.
I'm tired anon. It's late.
