I really don't get it. Do you guys even have the slightest idea how the world works? I understand conservatism but you guys are just idiotic.
> hurr durr lets vote in a literal meme for president
Yeah, because wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on a fucking wall, and spending millions on trying to deport illegals will help the country. Y'know, you could instead spend that money on infrastructure, healthcare, or a million other better things.
>arguing against universal healthcare
Yeah because people should become bankrupt for breaking their arm. Basically every first world country in the world has some form of universal healthcare. You guys spend more per capita, and get mad at the government for 'taking my hard earned money' (when in reality you would be spending less on taxes for it then you would through insurance)
> 'muh guns and freedoms'
You guys have a school shooting like every goddamn week. Its not too hard to get a gun here in canada, with our sensible and sane gun laws, but we dont hand them out to any psychopath who chooses because 'its our right to bear arms.' How many more children have to die before you guys wake up?
>blaming the blacks, muslims, and jews for everything
because you know, all other races are inferior to your superior genes. If it wasnt for those damn jews and blacks with affirmative action you would be a doctor, instead of sitting in your moms basement shitposting trump memes.
>>68200555
Right wingers are very well known to be mentally retarded.
>Wasting money
>Employing hundreds of thousands of people
I don't understand.
>>68200555
>You guys have a school shooting like every goddamn week. Its not too hard to get a gun here in canada, with our sensible and sane gun laws, but we dont hand them out to any psychopath who chooses because 'its our right to bear arms.' How many more children have to die before you guys wake up?
All of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HORkT4a2MhQ
>>68200555
A FUCKING LEAF
fucking memes.
14 yr olds at 4chan
>>68200721
>illegal immigration costs us 92 billion a year
>even if the wall would cost 30 billion, could pay for itself in 4 months
>>68200904
Who will pick your lettuce, Amerilard?
>flag
Move along, nothing to see.
>>68200555
>wasting literally hundreds of words for a 5 cent shitpost
I believe in 2nd Amendment rights and would even go so far as to say that every American man and woman has a responsibility to own a firearm, but I also believe more through background checks are in order.
I believe that the healthcare system in it's current state is severely dysfunctional and costs have exploded, but I am staunchly anti-universal healthcare and believe privatization is the best way to do it.
I believe that liberal or conservative everyone is allowed through the first amendment to say whatever they want, but demand that news outlets be stripped of private funding from big investors and be as unbiased as humanly possible
I believe that all criminals no matter their skin color should be prosecuted appropriately according to the law and deported if necessary, but agree that the privatized prison system is unconstitutional and that the laws for minor crimes need to be adjusted.
What am I?
>>68200904
60% of illegals come from overstaying travel visas.
>but yeah, building a fucking wall will stop them.
>>68201090
You're a completely sane person. You may not have identical views to me, but they're entirely reasonable.
>>68200555
>>68201103
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>>68201103
Not even interested in their politics but Trump plans on deporting illegal immigrants as well as walling the border.
Exactly. Someone who makes sense on this board. I'm a conservative in Canadian terms (voted Harper) but am at least sane. No idea why universal healthcare is so maligned. It works way better then the American system.
>>68200555
>hurr durr lets vote in a literal meme for president
I stopped here, I mean I wanted to stop after seeing the flag but this was just lolz worthy.
>>68200555
>hurr durr
and stopped. come back when you have developed an 18+ brain, nigger.
>>68200555
Stop duty free shopping in my country, parasite.
>>68200665
>>68200555
the difference is choice you faggots
people on death row choose to commite major and terrible crimes
people who like guns either like it for sport, hobby, or protection, are all 3 there is nothing wrong with that
national healthcare is a scam and every country that has it is poor af
unborn babies dont have a choice yet you want to murder it for convenience
>this might be an actual redditer and not bait
>>68200974
Americans, you retard. Hurr durr illeagls do the jobs that Americans don't want! Hurr durr. Fuck off. Wages will increase to attract workers. When there are plenty workers, wage will be lowered. You don't even basic supply and demand.
>A FUCKING LEAF
You voted a failed drama teacher so you guys can feel good. Now, where are your weeds that the cucklord himself promised?
>>68200555
FYI, not all Canadians are this retarded...
>>68202112
I know, Canada bro.
>>68201746
>>68201681
>>68201394
>>68200770
Nice responses. I enjoy how you guys immediately shut out any sort of contradicting opinion and immediately post memes. You are worse then tumblr.
You forgot the part where /pol/ is making memes reality
The lines are already blurring, are you sure you know the difference at this point?
>>68200974
>Automatic lettuce pickers.
>>68202112
I've noticed lately how fucking retarded my fellow Canadians have been cuckposting and makes me wonder where the fuck are these people.
>>68202205
>I enjoy how you guys immediately shut out any sort of contradicting opinion and immediately post memes
>hurr durr lets vote in a literal meme for president
This has to be shit tier bait. At least Aussie bait is kind of funny, you Canadians just post like retards and somehow think it makes you funny? I guess?
>>68200555
>pro war
Trump is the only one that doesnt want to start WW3 with russia..
>>68202011
WHAT THE LIVING FUCK THAT GIF
>>68200555
Lets break it down:
>hurr durr lets vote in a literal meme for president
There are people who seriously support him and his positions. There is much more going on than doing shit for laughs here.
>Yeah, because wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on a fucking wall, and spending millions on trying to deport illegals will help the country. Y'know, you could instead spend that money on infrastructure, healthcare, or a million other better things.
The candidate and supporters day that doing such a thing will save us great amounts of money. And obviously the wall itself will be a long term investment.
>arguing against universal healthcare
Many here have answers for how to handle healthcare, sometimes not good at all but overall there are more solutions out there than a single payer system.
>Yeah because people should become bankrupt for breaking their arm. Basically every first world country in the world has some form of universal healthcare. You guys spend more per capita, and get mad at the government for 'taking my hard earned money' (when in reality you would be spending less on taxes for it then you would through insurance)
The numbers part is an interesting argument but highly depends on what goes on in your life and can be accomplished through insurance payments for a cheaper overall cost. Regardless, as I just said, there are more options out there. Doesn't matter what others are doing, it's about what it is right to do.
>You guys have a school shooting like every goddamn week... How many more children have to die before you guys wake up?
There is a /k/ comic that answers this question. Either way, most of /pol/ at least supports better background checking instead of literally banning sorts of guns.
>blaming the blacks, muslims, and jews for everything
There are various points said about each and you just shitposted instead of actually speaking on them intelligently.
>>68202314
Cities. Born in the cities my friend.
Or they chose to go there for any other reason besides a high paying career that'll land them retirement by 40 to which they can build something nice in the country side.
Cities breed retarded degenerate views. Always have, always will.
>>68202550
A living example of OP.
I really not know. I just save that from other anon.
>>68202590
I was born and raised in Edmonton, work up north in Fort Mcmurray. I generally do not see these types of people around though.
>>68200555
feels good to be free
>>68200555
First Muslims are no race everyone can become on also if you dont like that people talk about the fact that most terror and violence in all religions today comes out of islam, that black people are usually more criminal and that soros is a fucking radical leftist that throws europe into a civil war... i suggest changing those mentiont things and not start ACTING like a stupid bewildered child when its actually the same problems we have since 15 years ago and longer.
Or maybe you really dont know.. in which case now you do.
>>68200555
You forgot the party where corporations and Wall Street own literally 90% of the wealth yet the government refuses to give up their tax breaks.
>>68201869
You can't murder what isn't alive.
>>68202572
Since you gave me a nice reasonable response, ill do the same.
>about the wall
What exactly would you do about the problem that near 60% of illegals come from overstaying their travel visas? A wall wouldnt exactly stop it, and i really couldnt see a way of getting congress to approve the restriction of travel from your neighboring country.
>health care
I personally believe that peoples health shouldnt be a massive 'for profit' business, and the massive bills are just ridiculous. The current system you guys have definitely needs to be changed though.
>guns
I agree with what you've said
>>68202976
Get the fuck out and learn a book.
>>68202976
>a fetus isnt alive
if you had made it to the 6th grade, youd know why you are wrong.
>>68200974
Robots, you see we have Engineers and Technology
unlike Canada who can't even shitpost correctly
>pro war
>anti healthcare
What kind of positions are these?
>>68202976
>>68203077
>>68203077
>What exactly would you do about the problem that near 60% of illegals come from overstaying their travel visas? A wall wouldn't exactly stop it, and i really couldn't see a way of getting congress to approve the restriction of travel from your neighboring country.
Deport them. I am sure that if you have Visa, we have information on you.
A wall will not 100% of illegals, that is for sure. However, we will stop at least 97% of illegals from entering America. We can deport the rest easily. No one expect short and quick work.
Before you said tunnel, do you really think that tunnel is made in a day and quickly? We have the technology. We have cameras. We can easily catch illegals in boat by coast guard.
>>68200555
Because unborn life is is not guilty of violent acts. Simple.
Tho I'm more of a 1 child policy unless you can afford more kinda guy. With mandatory sterilization for offenders.
>>68201103
Because illegal immigrants that sneak across the border participated in the census to give you this information...
>>68203077
So, because it will only see live 40% of the problem we just give up on the whole idea? What's the sense in that? We can do both. Kick out the over stayers and have our wall too!
>>68203399
Not to mention ground penetrating radar. Frankly I think the best idea would be to make the entire U.S. Mexico boarder wall a military facility and man it with the national guard and reservists.
>>68203077
>What exactly would you do about the problem that near 60% of illegals come from overstaying their travel visas?
If I remember right, Trump spoke on the wall and also deportations and removing benefits that would be extended to illegals. Don't quote me on this but I believe that's the plan. Deportations not being that new an idea as America deports hundreds of thousands of illegals every year anyway. He just wants a big increase of it so to (with the wall) cut down on financial burdens and the drug trade.
Further, where did you get this 60% figure from? Undocumented immigrants can't be quantified well at all as they are undocumented. We can't do percentage claims. And we know who overstays their Visa because we have the info for the Visa on them.
>I personally believe that peoples health shouldnt be a massive 'for profit' business, and the massive bills are just ridiculous. The current system you guys have definitely needs to be changed though.
No doubt, and Trump supports that as well. He wouldn't want to take down Obamacare unless he was installing his own plans with it.
Making health "for profit" isn't really the case, either. Insurance companies compete (less so because of Obamacare, which has risen prices) but the people associated with healthcare by and large are not, if at all.
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>>68203399
Is it really worth it to justify the massive price tag to build the wall, to prevent only 40% of the immigrants? Plus it would cost more year after year to continually track, round up, and deport the immigrants compared to what they cost the country.
>>68202205
Nobody here actually gives a shit about your Canadian opinions on US law and elections because those opinions have about as much value to us as the opinions of a fucking seagull.
>>68201103
So the wall will cut illegal immigration by up to 40%? Freeing up immigration offices to crack down on those overstaying on expired visas?
>>68203691
You live in a place made of walls, walls that are for keeping undesirables out of your sanctuary
If you hate walls so much go sleep outside you hypocritical faggot
>>68203691
It will save us a hell of a lot more money in the long run. Illegals receive services and benefits. They get free healthcare on the tax payers dime. They are involved with a significant amount of crime. Their children go to our schools.
>>68200555
>>arguing against universal healthcare
Universal healthcare is state monopolized healthcare.
It's cruel and sadistic.
We need a free market in healthcare.
Also you should kill yourself.
>>68203691
It would be easier every year, actually, because
>less illegals=less work=less money spent deporting illegals
and 40% is still a huge amount considering there are MILLIONS here. Also, as Donald Trump describes (im not totally support of him though) the trade deficit being made up via tariffs should be more than enough to pay for wall. When he says 'Mexico will pay for it', he doesn't mean he's going to ask them nicely, he's going to make them suffer for it.
>>68200555
I'm conservative but I'm pro-choice.
Growing up in a dysfunctional family I recognize the need to have a functional family unit to raise a child. My ultimate philosophy on the subject matter is that if you can't afford to raise a child in your ideal circumstances, then don't have a kid at all. I believe that raising a kid to be the best he or she can be becomes more important than your petty squabbles in life, and if you can't provide the potential for them to become more than what you have achieved then there is no real argument to keep them alive in your womb.
I'm still pro death penalty, I'm still pro gun, I'm still pro most everything that conservatives are for, except I do my best not to be a hypocrite, and abortion happens to be hypocritical for conservatives (mostly due to religion which I don't associate myself with [I'm agnostic, not atheist]).
>>68203077
>peoples health shouldnt be a massive 'for profit' business,
OF COURSE it fucking should.
Do you hate medical technology and human progress or something?
Why shouldn't people be freely allowed to practice and receive medicine and do research?
Fuck I just want to choke you science hating neo-luddites.
>>68202976
A better argument is that fetuses aren't self aware
>>68200555
Are you scared of America being made great again?
>>68200555
>Has a leaf for a national flag
>Participate in intellectual discussions
pick one
>>68200555
Why is it always a fucking leaf
>>68203691
Illegals already cost us over 113 billions dollars. The wall only cost like 10 billions. Wall WILL PREVENT OVER 97% not 40%. Also, did you know that liberals, people like you, want to give illegals free college? If so, 113 will maybe increase to more than 150 billions per year. Trump's wall is cheap. The costs of maintaining is even cheaper. Also, if illegals get everything, what stop even more illegals from come to America? Is it worth? Yes, it is worth to built a wall.
Give them an inch, they will take it a mile.
Just jump in front of a train desu OP
>>68204171
At least we don't live next to new Zealand
I stopped reading after the first few sentences. You're fucking dumb.
>>68203980
How is pro-life hypocrisy? Being pro death penalty means that people lose their right to life because they have committed crimes against society, typically high crimes such as treason or murder. Being pro gun does not make one hypocritical in terms of self defense because defending ones life or others' lives is entirely justified, similar to treatment of death penalties.
>>68201103
your ID is puke coloured, therefore your opinion is irrelevant
>>68204313
Should have stopped after noticing the fucking LEAF.
I despise my countrymen. Beta blue pilled cucks.
>>68203725
seagulls shit elsewhere, not in /pol/
>>68200555
I think that is a bold assumption about pro-life people OP. I am mostly pro-life but that is a scary ass decision so i would never make it for someone else. I am pro guns and anti govt. health care but hope people get what they need and "sharin what is mine cause i aint no jealous type". Not pro death penalty and never wanna go to war unless its necessary.
>>68200555
C'mon guys, it's a fucking leaf
