What exactly differentiates Western conservatives and Muslims? Not a troll question, I am asking this genuinely, because it seems like they have almost all the same opinions.
>want to have traditional gender roles, want to encourage women to be modest
>don't like homosexuality and want to limit its influence and exposure
>want religion to be part of the fabric of society
>take their culture/tradition very seriously and want to preserve it
Why does it seem like conservatives and Muslims are so opposed ideologically? When it comes to how they want their societies run it's almost like they agree on almost everything.
Who gives a shit.
Western conservatives don't rape and murder white women or participate in barbaric religious practices.
Religion is dumb.
>>68198206
Terrorists are almost never Western conservatives
Islam absolutely requires Sharia. It's a requirement for political islam. Western ultraconservatives want western liberal (as in scope) democratic laws, albiet biblicaly based, and also don't have a formal system like sharia..
Go look up what Sharia covers.
>>68198530
This is basically it. Good enough for me
>want people to live their life after religious values
>want to cut off your head
>>68198206
>Goatfucking
>Pedophilia
>Rape
>Beheading
>Literally created by a demonic hallucination
>>68198206
>what differentiates an orange from an apple
>>68198206
The west bases it's morals around the state and law. As much as conservatives in america don't want to admit it. They value the constitution a LOT MORE then they do the Bible. In most rednecks mind Jesus is an american not some jew that lived in a desert 2000 years ago.
Probably because it's a coherent document dealing with more modem things bronze age shitter couldn't even imagine like guns and freedom of press.
Islam is strictly religious and the state is built around it.
So while Western State/Law morals are updated as times goes by muslims stay forever in 500 because Kuran can't do no wrong and it's perfect. And how do you improve on perfection?
>>68198206
>don't like homosexuality and want to limit its influence and exposure
How many Western conservatives would enforce a death penalty for homosexuality?
>>68199436
Been waiting to post this one.
>>68198206
>want to have traditional gender roles, want to encourage women to be modest
But we don't want to remove all forms of freedom, which is what they want.
>don't like homosexuality and want to limit its influence and exposure
Muslims would prefer to execute homosexuals, where personally I agree with what you wrote. It's over-represented in media.
>want religion to be part of the fabric of society
In an Islamic society, Islam isn't a PART of the society, it IS and defines it. You live by Islamic law.
Whereas Christianity is more of a guidance.
>take their culture/tradition very seriously and want to preserve it
That's the problem, THEIR culture. Christianity, while it has it's roots in the Middle East has been shaped by Europeans and turned into a European religion that follows European values.
For Islam to be even close to fitting for our society (even with all your points included), would require serious reforms to the point where it cannot be called Islam anymore.
It's an Arabic religion, nothing more.
>>68198206
Western conservatives either dont want to be forced to either live under a religion they consider heretical, or pay a special tax.
>>68198206
What exactly differentiates an apple and an orange?
>both are sweet
>both grow on trees
>both have a peel
>both are round
Why are they not the same? I'm genuinely confused here.
>>68200627
>That's the problem, THEIR culture. Christianity, while it has it's roots in the Middle East has been shaped by Europeans and turned into a European religion that follows European values.
Even Middle Eastern Christianity, which is the original Christianity, and uninfluenced by European Christianity, is nowhere near as extreme or absurd as Islam.
>>68200844
YOU CALL THIS ROUND!?
>>68200957
That's true, and a lot of it has to do with how Islam was formed.
It's just a warlord writing a book and using his 'religion' as means to conquer.
>>68200957
Well mostly because stories in the bible aren't LAW.
If they were the old testament would plunge most societies into chaos.
Imagine if eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth was true in everday life.
There's be no police and it would all be senseless revenge killings.
Same shit that happens in Latin Ameica and well Muslims world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjakmarrja
Take this...
>>68200336
Inshallah we come in peace :^)
>>68201062
Middle Eastern Christians are also about a standard deviation higher in IQ than their Muslim counterparts. I don't know how this came about. Possibly because the only people rich enough to pay jizya tax, and therefore not having to convert, were the ones who remained Christian or Jewish. And we all know the correlation between wealth and intelligence.
>>68198206
Even if it was that simple, why would we need to interact with each other? Let the shitskins practice their beliefs in their sandpit, not ours.
>>68200967
Real fruits have curves
>>68198206
The Traditionalist Christian conservatives are only loosely theocratic, whereas Islam is very much theocratic. Remember, they don't do it because they "want to"; they do it because they have to. Islamic society has kept its own for hundreds of years, but that doesn't mean Islam's end goal is a better society; their end goal is Islamic statehood through out the entire world. the methodology of a better society should be an end in itself; that's why Islam is fundamentally flawed.
>>68198206
Genetics and birthright
>>68200587
same here
