Learn the differance
The difference between socialism and communism is 20 years.
>>68196804
go away reddit
>>68196804
Send me to learn marketing and specifically rebranding,
>>68196804
Bernie should go himself, to learn basic economics
>>68196934
first post best post
get fucked OP. Bernie is a failure.
LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SLAVERY AND DEMOCRATIC SLAVERY
The difference between socialism and communism is that communism is the end goal and socialism is the means towards that goal.
Yeah we should become democratic socialists like all those countries that are so much poorer and less powerful than us. Wait.
>>68196934
Shocking as it might seem, Lenin doesn't get the final word on everything socialism. Neither does Marx, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, or anybody else you can name.
It's a fucking diverse collection of systems and philosophies, dude. With implementations that range from disastrous and abject failures to definite successes.
>>68196804
The difference is that communists aren't total pussies.
>Communists died by the millions fending off the third reich
>Socialists flee to Canada to avoid being drafted into the military
>Communists fought the Russian and Chinese civil wars to overthrow their rulers
>Socialists gather together and talk about how oppressed the blacks and white women are
>Communists turn the dying Russian Empire into the second most powerful military and industrial power for 50 years despite the fact that they had to fight for over a decade of war over the course of 30 years
>Socialists turned Sweden into a land where locals have to bend over for their black muslim immigrants
I would rather be enemies with a Soviet than allies with a Swede.
>>68196804
Is getting indoctrinated for free that much better than paying for the privilege?
>>68197260
>With implementations that range from disastrous and abject failures to definite successes.
strange that theres no communistic successes
>>68196804
>Bernie wants to send you to an over priced, under valued state school for "free".
>And by free he means you'll pay for it the rest of your life in your shit-tier job rather than just 12 years.
>but... it's "free"!
>>68197260
It's a diverse collection of systems and philosophies that have resulted in over 100 million murders in the 20th century.
>>68197260
> its not socialism because its not my particular brand of socialism
>>68196804
So he wants college to be free. Won't this raise more tax?
>>68196804
Thank you for explaining the differences in an easy to follow manner, you absolute failure at life. I'll wait while you write it out in your own words, you fucking cunt.
>>68197345
The difference is that Russia was more nationalistic and that their country was actually in danger. American draft dodgers are basically just not partaking in the advancement of the interests of the multinational corps influencing the Whitehouse.
You really changed my mind OP, thank you!
>>68196804
>free
Hope you're ready to taste that 50% taxes on your paycheck, as well as 25% tax on ALL goods.
But at least college will be free :~)
>>68197345
>The difference is that communists aren't total pussies
kek, have you been to /r/Anarchism ?
>differance
>>68197260
Translation: LISTEN AND BELIEVE SHITLORD!
>>68196804
Free state schools with government approved scholastics. I'll pass. Privateer universities won't be free nor will he absolve university related debts, lower their interest rates or ANYTHING that will actually help out his college aged constituents. Berniefags are functionally retarded.
There really is no difference between communism and democratic socialism when academia, the media and everyone in your parliament are hardcore globalists pushing the same Marxism agenda. Heck it might even be worse than communism because in communism everyone knows exactly who to blame.
>>68196804
>can't spell
Typical cucked Bernie shill
>>68196804
OP has abandoned his own thread. We took the b8.
>>68197631
Only on the evil 1%
People who call Sanders a communist are as retarded as people who call Trump a Nazi.
>>68197444
So then when there's a presidential candidate whose platform includes a classless society and planned economy, that argument will be perfectly valid. Bernie's policies are pure sozialdemokratische anyway. Educate yourselves
reminder that Socialism is state ownership of the means of production. Communism is the utopian ideal society which can never actually exist.
Bernie Sanders is not a socialist, he's a Welfare Capitalist
>>68197260
I like how every authority figure you can name in socialism has a death toll in the millions.
>>68196934
>"le"nin quote
>representative of modern socialism
nice try
>>68196804
>free
Nothing is ever free. Someone pays for it down the road. Even simple things like free samples are paid for by the companies in advertising costs.
Who pays for college when its free?
>>68197260
>definite success
HAHAHA can you give one good example?
>>68197444
I'm not interested in defending communism. Neither is Bernie. It's been a disaster every time.
Same goes for you two.
>>68197560
>>68198163
It's not every authority figure I can name, genius. I cherrypicked the most notorious ones. It wasn't a difficult-to-understand post; do better.
Castro's death toll is several orders of magnitude smaller, though, not that I'm defending the man.
>>68197614
Nobody in this thread has claimed that Bernie "isn't a socialist." Nobody.
>>68197945
You guys are doing great. Again.
>>68196804
Learn the difference between "differance" and "difference" before you go to grade-school tomorrow, faggot.
How do I get monthly welfare checks?
Bernie wants to send me to college for free because he wants college professors and college campuses to be even more over-burdened than they already are, and to make degrees even more meaningless.
>>68197462
>And by free he means
He means he has 3 supporters in Congress for the tax that would fund it.
>>68198903
Colleges have limits on the number of students they accept.
>>68198163
Because other than Marx he chose authoritarian dictators.
>>68199043
Put your hands on me
>>68196804
I like it.
The denial in this thread is also hilarious.
>b-but m-muh private definitions!
>>68199077
The next step after 'free college for everyone who passes the tests' is 'free college for everyone' to 'government mandated college for everyone.'
These things never stop.
>>68198336
Almost every country that's been economically successful in the past half-century, if we're counting people like Sanders as socialists. What he advocates for just isn't that radical, man; a definitely capitalist free market with slightly but not drastically more regulation then we have in place today, a more progressive tax system, less military spending and more social spending. Pure laissez faire capitalism has a lot of failures under its belt too (though not quite so stark as communism's failures); almost every successful economy is a mixed economy.
Nice Spider Jerusalem picture, though.
>>68196804
Literally the only difference is the HOW, not the what.
>>68196804
Fuck that pro Israel shill. Peace dove or Pro Israel. Pick one you dumb lazy ass kike.
>>68198903
Ya, cuz that's the point of college having a degree. Fuck learning anything to know more that would be stoopid.
>>68197260
>It's a fucking diverse collection of systems and philosophies, dude. With implementations that range from disastrous and abject failures to definite successes.
Just as anticipated.
>>68199305
>Almost every country that's been economically successful in the past half-century
You mean the US which is not socialist (communist) and China which is now way more capitalist than socialist right?
>a definitely capitalist free market with slightly but not drastically more regulation then we have in place today
Lol that is not what Bernie is suggesting at all you shill tard.
>a more progressive tax system
Every country that has a "progressive" tax system is either 1/10th the size of the US or is getting destroyed right now, same with all the other countries that have done an absolute progressive tax system.
>less military spending and more social spending
Those countries don't spend jack shit on the military because the USA has that all covered. And when they get basically invaded by migrants they don't even have enough police or military presence to prevent problems.
>Pure laissez faire capitalism has a lot of failures under its belt too (though not quite so stark as communism's failures)
Which is why the US hasn't been "lassez" faire for a long time.
>almost every successful economy is a mixed economy
Yes because going extreme is retarded, which Comrad Bernie is going for, more extreme.
>>68198225
>wants big government
yes
>marxist
no
>career politician
yes
>doesn't want to protect his people
what?
>college students idolize him
college students idolize stalin? ok
>wants revolution against his country
sure, if you consider being elected into office a "revolution"
>anti liberty
no
>wants to disarm the population
no
>hates capitalism
no
>>68199713
Based MISES
>>68199900
>marxist
>no
He has visited the USSR and Cuba and has adored them. He is a marxist.
>wants revolution against his country
>sure, if you consider being elected into office a "revolution"
Look at the amount of times he brings up revolution in his speeches. He wants to have a bolshevik revolution here.
The rest I won't even address because they are inherently wrong by communism standards and you're still blindly following this communist who won't ever win anyways.
>>68199713
I was forced to study Keynesian economics at University. It did teach me a bit about international trade and why unions fuck up a domestic economy.
>>68199521
You can do that from your couch if you have an internet connection. The only reason to actual go through the formal education side of it is to get the piece of paper.
>>68196804
What leftists think will happen under "democratic" socialism:
The rich will pay higher taxes than ever and help close the wealth gap! Hooray!
What will actually happen:
The rich leave the country.
>>68199818
If Bernie Sanders is a socialist, then yes, I mean the U.S. If you're to throw the word socialist at anybody who supports a mixed economy with regulations etc remotely to the left of what we've got today (which are themselves considerably to the right of what they were a few decades ago) don't get pissy about it when people point out how ridiculous it is to conflate a reasonable and well-tested system like that with Soviet-style planned economies, or with Chinese state capitalism for that matter.
And it is in fact spelled laissez, you idiot.
Socialism is a luxury afforded by capitalism.
It's only from a position of excess that wealth can begin giving it away to the needy.
Only from a position of shared innovation can a stagnant and uncompetitive system leech from a competitive and evolving one.
Only from a position of shared strength, can a pacifistic and weak system survive under the umbrella of the greater's dominance.
ignorant people don't know the difference between gentle punch to the shoulder and assault.
>>68200708
that's why the original pirates were such good capitalists right?
>>68196804
Why should i be forced to pay for assholes who can't figure out a decent career path?
>>68200628
I'm on my phone and frankly don't care to go into this in depth (the thread just dies every time I do anyway) but you people really need to get something through your heads: despite the pretty abysmal level of the conversation here, not all economic liberals are idiots, and acting like corporate tax inversion and mass emigration to tax havens are problems they've never, ever considered or addressed just makes you look naive.
>>68200968
how the fuck is that even a response?
>>68200631
>And it is in fact spelled laissez, you idiot.
Wow I missed an i good job making sure I'm an idiot for that you Nazi. Hmm, you know who else is pretty similar to Nazi's? Bernie Sanders and his supporters. Both supported socialism and both shut down opposing rallies and used violence to further their causes.
>If you're to throw the word socialist at anybody who supports a mixed economy with regulations etc remotely to the left of what we've got today
You're a fucking retard high school student. I can just tell. EVERY economy has some kind of socialism and "mix" but being THAT much socialism as Bernie Leningrad Sanders wants is wayyyy too much. That is bread lines tier socialism.
>conflate a reasonable and well-tested system like that with Soviet-style planned economies, or with Chinese state capitalism for that matter
Lol neither is reasonable, the Soviet-style planned economies were shit and the Chinese state "capitalism" are just slightly less government controlled than Soviet practices. The only reason it even opened up is because they let US businesses go there to (slightly) prosper while still facing government corruption. They are 100x better off than they were under communism but still so far away because they can't rid themselves of the government cock they love so hard you commie.
>>68201081
obviously you still don't understand socialism because the pirates made it work just fine and they weren't capitalists who "afforded the luxury of socialism" kek you are either 12 or retarded
>>68201383
Piracy can literally only exist parasitically off of a healthy capitalistic economy.
What is your point here?
Danish Prime Minister tells Bernie Sanders to stop using socialist slurs when referring to Denmark and that Denmark is in no way a socialist country
http://www.investors.com/politics/capital-hill/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/
>>68201317
I'm an adult and a professional with a real degree, sorry (no, it's not in Women's Studies). I don't usually correct people on their spelling on here, it's rude and patronizing and I certainly make typos too, but you actually had the nerve to try and correct me despite not knowing how to spell the word yourself. Don't backpedal now and pretend it was a typo.
As regards the rest of you're post, you're simply wrong about what Sanders advocates for and what his proposed policies are. There's not a lot to say beyond that without going into more depth than I have time for. You'll just find a reason to disregard it anyway -- you people always do.
>>68201836
Where did I try to correct your spelling? No where dumbshit, I missed an i, big goddamn whoop. It's not like I don't know how to spell when the internet will do it for me.
>As regards the rest of you're post, you're simply wrong
Wow, what a compelling argument. I'm sure you get very far in life by acting that way.
>>68201836
>I certainly make typos too
... for instance!
>you're post
the whole thing boils down to taxing the inheritance at ridiculous % like 80 or 90
>>68197260
>With implementations that range from disastrous and abject failures to definite successes.
name one time communism/socialism has ever succeeded
literally ever
hard mode: no nordic countries (Finland and Denmark aren't even remotely socialist, denmark has lower corporate taxes and more corporate autonomy than the U.S., Norway relies on a huge imported labor system and having literally one million dollars per citizen in oil money, Sweden is a fucking failure)
>a leftist Jew wants me to believe he isn't a full blown commie
Top kek
I'll learn all of your special snowflake variations of Marxist gobbledygook if you learn that nationalist populism isn't fascism.
>>68196804
Socialism accepts the idea of money and currency while communist doesn't
>>68201836
>I don't want to seem condescending but I went to school so I'm clearly smarter than you, and Bernie isn't even a socialist even though there are eyewitness accounts and testimonies that confirm his political alignment to communism.
>>68196977
Seriously.
>>68197723
Truth, and instead of making the people who choose to get those worthless degrees pay for it, Sanders wants to make hard working Americans pay for it. No thank you.
>>68197727
Yea, and at least SJW's will be able to study gender studies for free.
>non-'free' college:
I go to community college for $0 total taking advantage of the pell grant then transfer paying about $7k a year for two years at a state university after federal grants
I paid my ~$15k total in loans off within a year of graduating.
>If i had 'free' college:
I go to state university for 4 years then spend the rest of my life paying 30%+ more in taxes and a 25% VAT on everything
>>68196804
"Democratic Socialism" he keeps saying that, but I don't think he knows what it means. Socialism is Socialism and he's a communist. Bernie should just move to Venezuela. Bernie Sanders is a fucking cuck failure and his supporters are ugly fucking greasy faggots.
> kill yourself OP
THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF KOREA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH
LENIN AND MAO WERE CAPITALISTS
I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH
>>68203297
"Democratic socialism" is actually fucking terrifying if you think about it.
Democratic socialism should be the dictionary definition of mob rule.
>>68196804
Fixed your image bro
>>68196804
Berine wants to send you to college for "free" so his friends in academia can stay employed.
>>68203668
>privlage
When are americans going to learn basic spelling?
>>68204242
I'm sorry, is this board in Svenska or American?
Yeah, that's what I thought
>>68204242
When are Swedes going to stop taking Islamic cock up the ass?
>>68196804
Democratic socialism is just what they renamed communism to in Europe in an attempt to distance themselves from the Soviet Union. Get bend you commie faggot.
>>68203668
rekt
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>>68204389
see
>>68201543
denmark is fucking based tbqh
>>68204458
You mean Denmark is a Muslim base.
>>68204524
nah, they actually barely take any muslims at all
EU constantly attempts to impose sanctions on them for it
the refugees they do take have all their valuables stripped from them for monetary compensation
>>68204458
And it's fucking true. We may have a socialist welfare system. But our economy is as capitalistic as the US. It's how we were able build up the funds to have that welfare.
And now they are pissing it all away.
>>68196804
>differance
FRENCH DIASPORA LIBERAL DETECTED
>>68196804
>went to the Soviet Union for his honey moon
>"Silly goyim, I'm not a commie, I'd just a red as the US general public will permit, and I fap to Soviet propaganda nightly. I can't wait to get in office so I can go around the world sucking the dicks of people like Castro and Mugabe on your shekels!"
>>68204585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSi6dkw0m0M
Denmark has a huge Muslims problem, they've tried to stop the immigration but it's too late. Too many are there already and they're going to breed like rats. Denmark is fucked, just not as fast as Sweden.
>>68204524
Kek get real. We just had a dokumentary made with undercover "muslims", to show how the mosques are undermining our democracy. People are starting to get real fucking tired of muslims.
>>68204826
It's too late, you need to be tired of Muslims before you let them in, not after... The only thing real is going to be your country under Sharia Law.
>>68204691
>We may have a socialist welfare system.
I hate this term.
Without capitalism, welfare wouldn't exist. Where the fuck would you get the tax dollars to pay for it?
It's a capitalistic welfare system.
>>68204928
Not going to happen, burgerboy.
Besides, you should be more worried about your spics and niggers.
>>68204928
>>68204812
Denmark had huge muslim migrations in the '80s and they ended up sending most of them back because it ended horribly.
in 2002 or so they passed a law that even made it so that families can't be reunited in denmark
most of the muzzies there are the ones from back then
>>68205026
Why should I be worried about Mexicans? they're getting deported, your government is paying for Muslims. You can say it's not going to happen, but when it does you'll thank me for giving you the foresight.
>>68205109
Why would I thank you for a foresight I had years ago? And you can only deport some 11 million spics. What about the rest who is there legally? Commiefornia is practically lost to them.
>>68205283
>What about the rest who is there legally?
tbqh they've always been here, we just never reported them
>>68205283
>So you agree you're going to be a Sharia Muslim.
Scandinavia is deluded. Legal Mexicans aren't trying to enforce Sharia. I'll take a Mexican over a Muslim any day.
I for one look forward to my Star Trek future.
he's not a democratic socialist
he's a social democrat, hence all the sjw bullshit
>>68197260
>It's a fucking diverse collection of systems and philosophies, dude.
>Dude
>Bro
Dude.
>>68197948
...And an additional "fun" tax that he'll impose on the rest, cause you know, college costs money.
>>68197945
That shop is so bad it's almost distracting me from the tits.
Almost
>>68205450
I was talking about the foresight of muslims attempting to put DK under sharia law. But I realize that asking an american to put two and two together is too much to ask for.
>>68206262
lmao
>soon to be kebab trying to say you wont be under Sharia soon. kek
>>68206368
our country is led by a guy that used to regularly pray at a mosque, m8.
>>68206420
Soon to be gone nigger, we're not taking in rapefugees like Europe is.
>>68196804
he's still a corrupt moron with no chance
quit spamming this desperate bullshit
