in the 1850s if you thought slavery was wrong you were a liberal
in the 1920s if you thought women should be allowed to vote, you were a liberal
in the 1960s if you thought black people should be allowed to go go to the same schools as everyone else and not be discriminated against you were a liberal
in the 1990s if you tried to get people to stop calling black people niggers you were liberal and "politically correct"
today if you don't want to discriminate against gays and think poor people should be allowed to see a doctor if they are sick without going to the ER you are a liberal...
yfw in american history the liberals are usually right and win in the long run
>>68177355
>Implying slavery was bad
>Implying women should vote
>Implying black people should be considered citizens
>Implying balck people aren't niggers
Fuck off m8
>>68177355
This is very true. Conservatives are fucking retards. They are a parasite on our species. Conservatives have been put on the earth for one reason. To be wrong about pretty much everything throughout history.
>>68177507
Conservatives were right about communism, though.
>in the 1800s if you were pro slavery you were a liberal
>throughout history the books are rewritten by liberals for them to always be on the proper side of history.
Civil rights for black people wasn't even a liberal/conservative thing. it was a racist vs non racist movement with fags in both sides.
>>68177355
Yes, they consistently win and the civilization that hosts them consistently moves closer to its collapse.
>>68177697
>>68177752
White southern conservatives went to war to keep their slaves.
Are you some kind of retard?
>>68177850
>Yes, they consistently win and the civilization that hosts them consistently moves closer to its collapse.
yes the USA is on the verge of collapse, average lifespan has been going up for decades, the DOW is near an all time high, we have the biggest military on earth and unemployment is 5%
collapse, imminent
>>68177752
>Civil rights for black people wasn't even a liberal/conservative thing. it was a racist vs non racist movement with fags in both sides.
lol
>>68177697
That's funny. While President Barack Hussein Obama is busy crippling Russia (the remnant of the former major communist power in the world) and putting America back on top of the world.
Trump is bragging about how he's going to be buddy buddy with Putin, a former KGB.
>>68178028
The only thing collapsing is right wing retards' brains.
>>68177934
White southern conservatives went to war because the powers of the state where being threatened by a bunch of faggot liberals shouting "one country brah" look at States rights now, it's a fucking shitshow, and no-one cares about state government because Obama is just going to shout "one country brah" and start laying blanket laws over the country.
Liberals threw the it's about slaves bullshit in to help sway support for their side. even my liberal middle school history teacher knew this
And in March 2016, if OP didn't think his sister's lips wasn't wrapped around my cock, he'd be wrong. That makes him a conservative because conservatives are always wrong according to him.
>>68177900
Literally right about everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedric_Belfrage
>At the height of McCarthyism, Belfrage was summoned in 1953 to appear before the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC).
>In 1995, the decrypted VENONA intercepts—a project between the US and British intelligence services to decipher Soviet wires — were made public. United States intelligence has alleged that Unnamed Codename Number 9 (UNC/9) was Belfrage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Karr
>In 1950, Senator Joseph McCarthy referred to Karr as Drew Pearson’s “KGB controller”.
>After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1992, in the new atmosphere of openness, Soviet investigative journalist Albats published an article in Izvestia quoting documents from KGB archives that Karr was “a competent KGB source” who ‘‘submitted information to the KGB on the technical capabilities of the United States and other capitalist countries.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Coe
>Called before the HUAC (chaired by Congressman Karl Mundt), Coe denied under oath having ever been a member of the CPUSA.
>A recent investigation into the KGB archives claims that files show Coe to have been a Soviet agent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauchlin_Currie
>the United States refused to renew his passport in 1954 due to the McCarthyism atmosphere in Washington, DC.
>He appears in the VENONA cables under the cover name 'PAGE', and in Soviet intelligence archives as 'VIM' and as a source for the Golos and Bentley spy networks.
If it weren't for conservatives throughout history libtards would've run society into the ground because they don't subscribe to reality.
>>68177355
OP is a faggot. as usual
>>68177490
first post best post. as usual
>>68178120
Who said anything about Obama?
Besides, crippling Russia (which is not done in the interests of anti-communism, but of globalism) actually helps the communists, who are the main opposition party to Putin.
The best way to discredit communism would be help making post-communist Russia rich and prosperous, something U.S. liberals will never approve. In the 1990s, Harvard Jews and the Clinton government led the looting of Russia, now they are destroying it again.
>>68178120
The Ruble's collapse has very little to do with Obama directly. Russia was hit with both the declining price of oil and sanctions after invading Crimea in a short time. Let's not pretend Obama had anything to do with that.
>>68177507
Almost like there was a global economic crisis in the beginning few years of that graph. Wacky.
That's actually not true. The democratic party was pro slavery and anti-women vote. Even my super liberal history professor admitted to that when I pushed him on it. This isn't a secret.
>>68178120
Russia is so fucked, their central bank rate is 11%, as long as oil stays cheap they are nothing
the average life expectancy over the last 10 years is going DOWN in Russia, the only other place on earth that is happening is the African AIDS epidemic countries...
>>68177355
remember to sage/no pic all cultural marxist posts in your reply
>>68177355
So let's use the National Guard to force poor black immigrants into white liberal neighborhoods.
The white Liberals will move away as quickly as they can.
White Liberals don't walk their talk on integration because they see it as something that others must be forced to do.
You can quit getting mad at me and start integrating your white liberal community with poor black people today.
Lol! We (all 4channers) all know you won't do any such thing.
>>68178297
You realize when the southern states seceded, every single out put out statements that they were seceding because of slavery.
>On Dec. 24, 1860, delegates at South Carolina’s secession convention adopted a “Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.” It noted “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery” and protested that Northern states had failed to “fulfill their constitutional obligations” by interfering with the return of fugitive slaves to bondage. Slavery, not states’ rights, birthed the Civil War.
Five myths about why the South seceded
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths-about-why-the-south-seceded/2011/01/03/ABHr6jD_story.html
>>68177355
gr8 b8 m9, garanteed replies i asure
>>68178509
Are you talking about when the Democratic Party was the party of white southern conservatives?
>>68178509
LBJ vetoed the civil rights act twice before the republican congress finally overturned his veto AND solidified its place in society. Again, if you actually crack open a history book and read it instead of getting info from Facebook posts, you might actually learn something.
>>68178448
Russian communism has been discredited as much as any government/ideology can be
the country literally fell apart in a relatively peaceful revolution because of their complete failure to deliver on any of the promises they made
no further discrediting is needed, anyone over there who wants the communists back deserves what they get
>>68178457
Yes the economy crashes under Republicans and thrives under Democrats.
What's your point?
"Under Republicans, recessions happen four times as frequently as under Democrats."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/22/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-recessions-more-frequent-under-rep/
>The numbers back up Clinton’s claim since World War II: Of the 49 quarters in recession since 1947, eight occurred under Democrats, while 41 occurred under Republicans.
Wasn ´t the KKK founded by democrats?
>>68177507
>converting full time jobs to part time and temporary jobs = creating jobs
you guys are funny
in the 2030s, if you didn't discriminate against Pedosexual Americans and believed that age is just a number, you were a liberal
>>68178448
Typical Trumpfags. Always working for the Jew.
Anti-american, pro Russian. Fucking Trumpfags man.
>>68178028
>huge debt
>unsustainable birthrate
>increasingly divided populace
>shrinking social mobility
Giving the vote to women and non-whites, and increasing immigration with non-whites, has only succeeded in propping up an unsustainable system, disrupted social cohesion, given rise to a growing welfare state, and a growing trend of racial politics
>>68177490
Good! Now try saying that out in public in a city with a decent population size and see what happens.
>Implying financial slavery didn't replace racial slavery
>Implying most women actually utilize their right to vote
>Implying black people aren't creating "safe spaces" without white people, effectively re-segregating themselves
>Implying reductions in the first amendment someone increase personal freedom
Liberals look good on paper, but nothing they do ever seems to work out properly. Road to ruin is paved in good intentions, hm?
>>68177355
youve got your history all buttfucked, faggot.
>>68177355
The onus is on you to show any of those have brought positive changes because and not despite them. A nice place to start is to notice highly conservative places having similar or higher development than liberal ones without all the issues those decisions have brought.
And Plato's ideal government might have been shit because it commits the same fallacy as communism/socialism, but he was right that democracy without duty always ended up destroying itself.
>>68178704
Comservative and liberal meant different things back then as they encompassed different political stances on issues. Lincoln was a Republican candidate and became a Republican president. And quite honestly, his politics identify more with today's conservative air than that of yesteryear.
>>68178522
But Trump thinks they're killing us.
Trumptards think Putin is a great leader.
Jesus Christ, if they get in charge, that's exactlywhat's going to happen to America.
>>68178935
why?
city life sucks because of faggots like you
I can't tell whether the people replying to the OP actually think what he posted was accurate in any way. It's not, not even a little bit.
>>68178417
Black people are human.
Women are human.
Gays are human.
Only fucking /pol/ edgelords deny this is reality. If you believe that black people are subhuman, for example, go on a killing spree. Why not?
>>68178509
the democrats used to be the conservatives and the republicans were liberals
do you think the conservatives in the south voted for Lincoln?
notice which states voted for Lincoln in the map of state votes here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1860
now notice which states voted for McCain in 2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008
what a coincidence...........
>>68178836
Yes it was. And a fanatical bunch at that
>>68179000
Lincoln was a liberal progressive.
The Republicans don't have anymore of those. They kicked them all out of the party.
You don't hear the TeaTards bragging much about Teddy Roosevelt do you?
>>68178583
>So let's use the National Guard to force poor black immigrants into white liberal neighborhoods.
wut
>>68178901
Jews hate Russia because their grandparents were persecuted there, that's why they are always wanting to destroy it, it's about vengeace. It's not enough for them to have killed dozens of millions under Red Terror and Dekulakization (something liberals in the U.S. condoned, check out Walter Duranty).
When Donald Trump proposed to seek friendly relations with Russia they went insane and began accusing him of anti-semitism.
>>68178120
it's china's fault
>>68178935
I live in Phoenix and say all of those things, nothing has ever happened to me because unlike cuckfornia and jew york people in my state aren't nearly as a retarded.
>>68178621
>You realize when the southern states seceded, every single out put out statements that they were seceding because of slavery.
Yes, they were, and slavery was an issue of states rights in their eyes.
Part of the reason they lost the war was their central government was weaker since the individual states had more power. The North however was much more centralized and so that combined with their other advantages gave them huge edge over the South.
Slavery was shit and the South seceded because the slave owners preferred to get their fellow countrymen killed to preserve it, but something often overlooked is the context of the slavery issue.
It was an issue of states rights.
It's unfortunate that it was about that since the Confederacy's loss also meant the power shifting forever in favor of the federal government. The Northern victory had ups and downs in terms of how it shaped this country.
>>68177355
OP IS RIGHT but let me explain why.
modern liberals are not classical liberals
classic liberals are 100% for gun rights and freedom for all. real freedom.
around the 1950's they were invaded and taken over by "progressives" who want change just for the sake of it
progressives pretend to be liberal, but they are actually authoritarians who directly conflict with real liberal views.
most of you are too young to understand the difference though, but hopefully this clears it up a little so you spend some time googling.
alternatively you can continue to believe
>Muh all liberuuuls are ebil
>>68179054
Putin doesn't suck. He's the only leader strong enough to hold Russia together. Things aren't nearly as bad as your media says they are, leaf. Please evolve critical thinking skills.
>>68177355
>muh whig historianism
fuck off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_history
>>68177490
>>68178297
>Liberals threw the it's about slaves bullshit in to help sway support for their side.
i suppose every state that committed treason and fought the USA declaring they wanted to keep their slaves in writing in their secession documents means nothing and the freeing of the slaves the instant the war was over was a coincidence
>>68178836
Those god damn liberal leftist gay loving, muslim loving, tolerant KKK members!!!
Right wingers really are morons. You really don't know what's happened between the 1860's and 2016 do you?
How the Ku Klux Klan Helped Republicans Win Voters in the US South
https://news.vice.com/article/how-the-ku-klux-klan-helped-republicans-win-voters-in-the-us-south
>inb4 but hilary
>>68177355
In the 1960s, KKK members and supporters were all democratic.
>>68179144
Maybe according to that time period's standards, but not in comparison with today's liberal progressive movement. A large government and impressment of its people into a pseudo-slave like lifestyle under the state would have not been somethimg he'd agree with.
>>68179094
Same reason you don't go in a killing spree with dogs. Some bleeding heart idiot will make you stop, and people generally disagree with wanton killing.
>>68178863
Obama job creation is 95% full time.
>>68177355
You need to go back to school and retake your history classes.
>>68177355
who is this girl tell me now i think i know her
>>68179215
There's that too. Liberals used to be for limited government and descentralization of political, economical, cultural and social power, now "liberalism" in the United States means "soft socialism" and the destruction of every single link between human beings which is not under oversight of a central government authority.
>>68178836
the parties switched sides in the 1960s, look up the "Southern Strategy"
democrat has not always meant liberal
republican has not always meant conservative
>>68179155
Donald Trump is a Jew cuck just like his daughter is a full Jew.
Donald Trump said nobody is a bigger supporter of Israel than him.
>>68177355
>1850's would make you a Democrat
>1920's would make you a populist
>1960's would be a jim crow era supporter
>1990's led to today's sjw's
>today you need to get a job. I pay premiums for the world's best healthcare.
Ftfy.
>>68179409
Are you a psycho? I don't go on a killing spree for dogs because I like dogs. I'll shoot every raccoon or opossum I see.
>>68179150
Integration, my chan. White Libs don't get to economically segregate from poor blacks anymore. The reason for the force is because white Libs will run away from such integration as fast as they possibly can.
>>68177355
Liberal can mean alot of things. Some defintions of liberal are neutral some are democrats(pro-slave party). Some can include Republicans as well. So it really depends how you use it, but the way you seem to be denoting it is as "the side that is always right" if you define or depict your terms in a way that is already assuming it's right then your just shoehorning the definition to fit a narrative.
>>68178926
>>unsustainable birthrate
you are literally retarded, the US population would practically be in decline were it not for immigration
the birth rate is barely at maintenance, you are simply wrong
>>68179607
what's the matter anon, can't handle the fact that the jews are the true master race?
>>68178297
Fucking dipshits don't understand this. You think all the northern "liberals" fought because they loved niggers? Please....
>>68177355
It was the democrats who wanted to keep slavery
>>68177355
>your ideology only goes back 166 years
OP you're such a pleb. You should convert to Aristotelianism, which has always been right throughout history.
>>68179710
No, you are wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ
yfw all of the things that the liberals have pushed for have caused us to end up in this shit hole...
>>68179180
"Putin's playing chess while Obama is playing marbles"
You remember when all the right wing baboons were parroting that talking point.
Well the US is on top of the world and Russia is crippled.
Fucking Republicans man, always cheering for the enemy. Their hatred for Obama blinds them.
https://youtu.be/RRgs0qRbZpM?t=139
start at 2:20
>>68177355
Idiot who is applying a modern term to people 150 years ago
"liberal" back then mean conservative, at least on financial matters
>>68179069
I'm glad. Insufferable cunts like you deserve be contained, in real life and even on 4chan.
>>68179183
>I live in Phoenix and say all of those things
Living in Phoenix and saying it on the internet or among your racist friends doesn't count. You have to be in a crowd that represents the typical demographic of your city. The point is to determine which side of history you're on.
>>68179201
>centralize power made the north stronger
Bullshit. The south military record is better than the one of the North, but the north could afford to grind people into pulp while the south couldn't. The north was basically the Chinese in the Korean war.
>>68179437
>usually full time
What kind of fucking statistics is this? That's like making a graph about murders and saying usually some is killed with a gun. Regularity does not equal majority.
>>68179631
Hey, those two are great. Awesome pets, too.
>>68179437
It's also 95% minimum wage.
>tank economy to dislodge midtier workers
>reinstall them as bottomtier workers
Oy vey!
>>68177355
I disagree with all of those position, though
The only bad thing about slavery was that it brought blacks to America
>>68178935
OK, just did. Now what?
>mfw republicans were against slavery and demofag were pro slavery
Wew
>>68178522
>the average life expectancy over the last 10 years is going DOWN in Russia
prove it, salty khohol
>>68177355
"Liberals" also supported communism and eugenics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Controversies
>>68177355
>>68177355
>in the 1960s if you thought black people should be allowed to go go to the same schools as everyone else and not be discriminated against you were a liberal
>in the 1990s if you tried to get people to stop calling black people niggers you were liberal and "politically correct"
Slavery was bad for whites and blacks so... Integration in school has been absolutely disastrous. How else do our standing internationally and that blacks will take 200 years to close "Achievement Gap".
I don't remember that era in the 90's... Notice how the "causes" become more dubious liberalism gets increasingly suspect over time. Liberalism has served its purpose, now its time for a new strategy.
>>68179710
>you are literally retarded, the US population would practically be in decline were it not for immigration
That's what I was referring to. Our real birthrate is unsustainable because it will lead to a shrinking and more elderly population. It's the inverse of a birthrate that is too high.
>>68178926
>Giving the vote to women and non-whites, and increasing immigration with non-whites,
this is what conservatives actually believe, they are not racist though
> disrupted social cohesion, given rise to a growing welfare state, and a growing trend of racial politics
bro we killed all the indians, survived a civil war and beat the nazis and Russians
today we bicker about if we are going to let gays marry and poor people see doctors
you have no concept of history and what bad times really look like
>>68179400
>what are white southern conservatives.
>>68179824
>the enemy
ok m8
>>68179379
You are one dumb fuck, did you know that, leafer?
The dems created the klan as a tool to protect their power after the civil war.
>>68179880
95% full time. Deal with it.
Stop crying like a little bitch.
>>68177507
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>>68178261
>Unironically leafposting
>>68179236
Exactly .. Without Putin RUSSIA would be even worse than now
it's more complicated than that.
modern republicans are very liberal economically compared do democrats, who are very conservative economically.
democrats want a planned economy, republicans want a free market economy.
>>68177507
it's so obvious at this point man, why are you even here...
>>68177355
>in the 1850s if you thought slavery was wrong
you were...
...an abolitionist...religious zealot.
>in the 1920s if you thought women should be allowed to vote...
...you were a woman, and likely one of the upper gentry who had too few chores and too much free time.
>in the 1960s if you thought black people should be allowed to go to the same schools as everyone else...
...you were a radical agitator who believed Washington has a role in local education.
>in the 1990s if you tried to get people to stop calling black people niggers you were...
...likely a kike using niggers for an anti-white agenda...or a kike's useful idiot.
GRADE ME /POL/
>>68179795
no I'm not
In the United states the average woman has 1.9 children, do you understand what that means?
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
>>68177355
>in the 1850s if you thought slavery was wrong you were a Republican
>in the 1920s if you thought women should be allowed to vote, you were a Republican
>in the 1960s if you thought black people should be allowed to go go to the same schools as everyone else and not be discriminated against you were a Republican
>in the 1990s if you tried to get people to stop calling black people niggers and drag them out of poverty by offering true equal opportunity, you were a Republican
>today if you think people would be held equally accountable for their actions and should all be equal under the law regardless of race...
You are right, clear pattern to history.
>>68178836
Yeah, but democrats were conservative at that point in time.
>>68180001
People who were too busy having to deal with feral niggers to have much time following the universalist values of Massassuchets.
In the end, it all boils down to that. Southern whites are always on the "wrong side of history" because they have to survive at first place.
>>68177490
alright kiddo, now go say that outside of /pol/ :^)
>>68178621
Yeah but it was still ultimately about states' rights. The states' rights to own slaves was just the specific catalyst.
>>68179824
>the US is on top of the world
What world are you living in, man? The US is a pale shadow of its former self. Visit black communities, visit white working class communities and report back to me about how great everything is. Is that way people are lining up in droves for Trump? Because everything is 'peaches'?
Oh, wait. You're Canadian. Keep listening to The Young Turks and thinking you're illuminated. Sincerely hope you are teens early 20s.
>>68177355
Liberals also advocated the theory of the white man's burden. After textbook racism, this is the single most racist idea ever concocted. It have killed nearly as many minorities as blatant racism and is responsible for many modern atrocities; such as the Canadian residential school fiasco. Shit, it literally caused the extinction of the Tasmanian aboriginal. Never heard of them? That's because their story single handedly refutes every liberal ideology. They were a minority that where given everything they need to survive by liberals and then they all died; the end.
>>68177355
You cannot be this much of a fool.
Abolitionism in the 1800s was very strongly associated with Protestantism. It's roots were basically a bunch of Quakers and Puritans got together and decided "muh individualism" and "muh religion". It was both socially conservative [slavery was anti-Christian, sinful, sexually immoral, ect] and an economically liberal [free trade, market competition for labor, ect]. To call abolitionism "liberalism" is misleading, because both factors that created it are very strongly associated with modern conservatism.
>>68178889
>in the 1970s, if you didn't discriminate against Pedosexual Americans and believed that age is just a number, you were a liberal
Fixed that for you.
>>68177355
And all these people were also labelled, "Republicans."
>>68178766
>BJ vetoed the civil rights act twice before the republican congress finally overturned his veto
LBJ had a Democratic House and Senate for his entire presidency. That's why the 1960's were the most prosperous decade in American history.
You're legitimately retarded. Jesus Christ why are right wingers so fucking retarded?
>Again, if you actually crack open a history book
Try it sometime, moron.
>>68178825
>low wage part time job creation is a good thing
>economic policy effects are immediate and long term job creation is due to the current president rather than the policies enacted by the previous president
>>68179880
>Hey, those two are great. Awesome pets, too.
And yet a shoot them and nobody seems to give a fuck, go figure.
>>68177355
I'm a liberal but I don't care about the poors at all. We need single payer healthcare, though, because a population that's well taken care of is a productive one.
>>68177355
Yeah, but where will it end? It can't go on forever. Once the society crumbles under the weight of its own idiocy, it won't be a nice sight. Conservatives are those who want to keep the sustainable development and protect the people from such SHTF scenario.
>>68179379
find me ANYONE in the US who loved gays or muslims
Fucking Leaftard
>>68179968
>That's what I was referring to. Our real birthrate is unsustainable because it will lead to a shrinking and more elderly population. It's the inverse of a birthrate that is too high.
oh i misunderstood
but this happens in every developed country, women decide to have about 2 kids, how many kids do you have? how many do you plan to have?
it's not like the conservatives are promoting having more children per couple as a policy point or anything
In the 1900's if you supported Eugenics, you were a liberal
In the 1930's if you supported Socialism, you were a liberal
In the 1970's if you supported the Hippie movement, you were a liberal
>mfw uneducated morons think our economic growth is real, and not simply the result of massive monetary expansion by the federal reserve
>>68179539
nice meme
liberals also wanted things like the eventual removal of the family unit, free love, basic income, removal of national borders, the destruction of the upper class, banning of alcohol, cigarettes, meat, soft drinks, and other 'vices', electric cars, no term limits on presidents, unlimited deficit spending, less hours in the work week, longer vacations, an american rail system, getting america off oil, increased foreign aid, getting us our military out of other countries, permanent public works, and countless other policy and moral goals which were never achieved or were quickly buried when it became apparent they didn't work.
You don't get to pick and chose a handful of successes and claim you were on the right side of history all along.
>>68179698
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>>68178621
>You realize when the southern states seceded, every single out put out statements that they were seceding because of slavery.
The economy of the South was based on slavery and the right of Southern States to have it. So succession was indeed about states' rights, because they were motivated by increasing northern sentiment to curtail their rights [to own slaves] and thus destroy the Southern economy.
The Union went to war with the Confederacy to preserve the Union, not to end slavery. Abolitionism only became a war goal for the North in order to prevent European states from playing Machiavelli and supporting the South.
>mfw uneducated morons think Big Government is improving the economy, rather than destroying it
>>68180598
>In the 1930's if you supported Hitler's rise to power, you were a liberal
Ftfy
Progressives in America loved the Nazis up until (and some after) the war.
>>68179942
>>the average life expectancy over the last 10 years is going DOWN in Russia
>prove it, salty khohol
Overall, a quarter of Russian men die before reaching 55, compared with 7% of men in the UK and about 10% in the United States. The life expectancy for men in Russia is 64 years,
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/31/russian-men-losing-years-to-vodka
>>68180532
>banning slavery
>not calling people niggers
This. Those things can't really compare, Canuck. The more likely explanation is that minorities are not getting ahead the way you'd like them to so you can keep on blaming whites. If you are yourself white you should think about perverted that is.
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>>68179609
Are conservatives going to deny the existence of Lee Atwater?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ
The southern strategy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
>>68177490
le expected /pol/ response meme
>mfw uneducated morons who don't understand ANYTHING about economics try to parade around jobs numbers
>>68179883
>It's also 95% minimum wage.
Source?
Oh fuck nvm you just made it up.
>>68177355
>tfw I still don't believe in any of those things
any other true conservatives here?
>>68180189
kek
>>68180798
>all dat money printing
Holy shit, when will the bubble pop?
>>68177355
>downfall of society 101
>>68180088
Why did Harper do this?
>>68180423
60s prosperity was a phenomenom in all developed world, it wasn't because of "liberals", it was a result of the postwar boom and pre-1973 low oil prices.
It was just as prosperous in "liberal" U.S. as it was in Gaullist France, conservative Japan, ordoliberal Germany, socialist Britain, social democratic Sweden and even fascist Spain. It wasn't about ideology at all.
On the other hand, the radicalism of the era and the explosion of crime thanks to Warren Court reforms led to a perception of declining prosperity, which is why the 1950s are more associated with prosperity than the 1960s.
>>68180820
>Progressives in America loved the Nazis up until (and some after) the war.
yeah those nazi loving liberals, remember how Hitler wanted gay people to have equal rights and loved the jews and trannies?
Hitler was the most liberal lib who ever libed
i tell you what
>>68180848
The Republicans had to appeal to racists to get racists votes, you say?
>>68180137
What's obvious?
That I'm reporting facts to a group who desperately needs them.
>>68177355
>in american history the liberals are usually right
Says who?
>and win in the long run
Yeah, that's true. Conservatism is the ideology of impotent cucks even though they're right.
Prepare to accept trannies, animal fuckers and post-birth abortions as normal.
>>68177490
This guy is right.
>>68180829
How is it going down over the last 10 years&
>>68180878
Ponzi scheme that has hit its limit
>>68180848
Are liberals going to deny the existence of Robert Byrd?
>>68181005
Everybody is racist, Canuck. Everybody has been racist since the dawn of man. Black people are not particularly fond of whites, are they? Its a fact of life. SJWing just makes people more biased. Grow the fuck up.
>>68180314
I did that at my work place. Everyone agreed.
#rekt
>>68180532
>Yeah, but where will it end? It can't go on forever.
i mean first they wanted slavery to end because selling human beings is cruel, then they wanted women to be allowed to vote for the people who represent them in the government
OH WHEN WILL IT END
SLIPPERY SLOPE !!!!
>>68177355
As someone who has studied history, this post is grossly simplistic.
If anything, it's just a testament to the short sightedness of modern liberals, people who insist on placing people in a box and, in their blind arrogance, assign a universal narrative to human existence.
Fuck off, OP
>>68180598
>In the 1970's if you supported the Hippie movement, you were a liberal
the hippies were right faggot
>>68181005
I know right? Black people totally hate the Clintons.
That photoshop job has been debunked.
http://www.snopes.com/clinton-gore-92-confederate/
You make a good point though. The Democrats are so racist that they elected the first black president in American history, Barack Hussein Obama.
And Republicans treated him with so much respect and dignity. They never claimed he was from Kenya and not an American,
>>68180984
Nobody loved gays until the late 70s. Even then it was slow going. Mainstream left was anti-gay right through the 90s. There is more to Progressivism than faggotry.
>>68179845
>side of history you're on.
>>68180260
And we were at war with Eastasia at the time (Eurasia were our allies). Now it's the other way around, Winston.
>>68177355
>slavery
wrong and evil, i'll concede that
>women being prohibited from voting
objectively good for the world, giving them that right was a mistake
>segregation
also good, but unfortunately was exploited so that black schools were dilapidated and terrible. equal budgets with segregation would be great
>a 6 letter word is so taboo you get attacked for using it
you're a pussy bitch if you let a word have that power over you and your emotions
>discriminate against gays
they deserve to be discriminated against, they have a mental illness and have gotten all the rights they wanted but still want more (hurr bakeries need to make muh cakes or else its racist!!)
>seeing a doctor without going to the ER
fucking what?
>conservative vs liberal
1808 called, they want their political paradigm back
And the far right rises like fuck during prolonged periods of the left turning society in a god forsaken shithole.
You think the Nazis rised out of nothing?
Fuck no, Germany was the most degenerate place in the world.
>>68180670
>nice meme
explain this:
>>68179101
and this:
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>>68180984
Your posts reek of an underaged tumblr user. Do you not realize that that was a different time then? Are you mentally deficient?
>>68180260
You mean they weren't based around exploiting an oppressed underclass working in slave labor conditons like they are today?
>>68181293
"I'll have those niggers voting democratic for the next 200 years" - Lyndon Baines Johnson
>>68180269
Exactly. Pic says it all.
>>68180848
Southern Democrats get a bad reputation, but my favourite U.S. politician of all times was one of them.
Larry McDonald was right about everything, that's why the commies had to kill him.
>>68181297
Hitler came to power by telling everyone in his country that minorities and immigrants were running Germany, not the white people who had almost all the power
you think that is what "progressives" and "liberals" believe?
>>68177355
Slavery was better than wage-slavery
Women shouldn't vote
They can't get into the same schools without massive amounts of help and cheating
>>68181805
Liberals literally think, "White people," are the immigrants, and treat them as such.
in 1919 if you believed in the proletarian revolution you were a liberal
>>68181599
>Your posts reek of an underaged tumblr user. Do you not realize that that was a different time then? Are you mentally deficient?
oh it was a different time
thanks for explaining that, i guess back then exterminating entire races of people and homosexuals lines up with modern liberals who want gay marriage and to end the death penalty in all forms
thanks
>>68177355
But all of those things were bad for society in the long run as well, heck my country was a beautifull developing nation until we set the niggers free in 1888 due to foreign pressure, since then country has gone to hell.
Women voting has completly rekt democracy and is ruining the west and europe.
Liberals are communist filth and should be hacked to pieces with machetes.
>>68179437
You seem to forget that for insurance purposes, they redefined 'Full Time' as anything more than 30 hours per week. That's down from the 36 it used to be in Ohio. Now someone who works 5 six hour shifts a week is considered full time.
>>68177355
>in the 1850s if you thought slavery was wrong you were a liberal
Right...
>>68181923
>Liberals literally think, "White people," are the immigrants, and treat them as such.
As a white male I have never felt treated like an immigrant
are you saying white people are being oppressed by "liberals" in the USA?
lo fucking l
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>>68181805
>Hitler came to power by telling everyone in his country that a specific ethnic subgroup was responsible for everything wrong in Germany
>YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!
>>68177355
>not seeing liberals have been fucking up the world since 1850
>>68182148
are you kidding me?
YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>68180251
>do you understand what that means
Yes, it means we're not following the ponzi scheme of "infinite growth". Just because it would drop below replacement rate doesn't mean it would always be below replacement rate. If couples started having 5 kids each, the trend would easily be reversed.
>>68181982
in 2016 if you believe in the proletarian revolution you are Bernie Sanders
>>68182135
yes you are right the southern democrats were conservative back then, they switched sides in the 60s
do you think Alabama voted for Republican Lincoln?
>>68177355
>not knowing the difference between Liberalism and liberalism
Sorry to tell you OP, but you're an illiterate retard
>>68177355
Liberals are the element of decadence that leads to the downfall of all great civilizations.
>>68177355
>in the 1990s if you tried to get people to stop calling black people niggers you were liberal and "politically correct"
What type of millennial trash are you? You couldn't call darkies "niggers" since the early 80s
>>68182259
>If couples started having 5 kids each,
if I started shitting diamonds I'd be rich
there is no reason to think in modern society with birth control and our complex lives couples are going to start on average wanting 5 kids
>>68180960
Just stop mate you come to all threads like these and make an ass of yourself in any way that doesn't involve selectively posting economical statistics that support your world view
>>68182293
>they switched sides in the 60s
This is the biggest load of shit.
>>68182463
Being rich reduces fertility. We won't be rich much longer with all of these parasites coming into our country.
>>68182293
>they switched sides in the 60s
No they didn't. The Southern Strategy is a conspiracy theory and nothing more.
>>68177355
>in 2010's if you say you are a liberal you are likely an authoritarian with no belief in individual rights, just like those that supported slavery, opposed universal suffrage, supported segregation and advocated for different laws for different people.
The left/right divide is an illusion. What matters is individualist/collectivist. Only when you defend every individuals rights can you defend every individual's rights.
>>68182293
The "Southern Strategy" never worked. Southern racists never switched sides. Instead it was Reagan's later appeal to previously apolitical Evangelicals that ended up carrying the South.
>>68177355
two can play at that game
in the 1850s if you thought Native Americans should be forced into white schools and have their savage traditions beaten out of them, you were a liberal
in the 1920s if you thought eugenics to limit the number of inferior poor people was just common sense, you were a liberal
in the 1960s if you thought the soviet union was just misunderstood and Vietnam would probably be better off under communism anyway, you were a liberal
in the 1990s if you thought Russia was no longer a threat and that anyone who thought we still had to watch them was just paranoid, you were a liberal
today if you want universities to have racially based admissions policies and racially segregated spaces, and want to drop the first amendment so you can prosecute people who say things you don't like, you are a liberal.
yfw in american history the liberals have been wrong just as often as they've been right, but never seem to learn anything from this
>>68179329
dumb frogposter
>>68182609
>>they switched sides in the 60s
>This is the biggest load of shit.
no, it was carefully planned, go look at the national elections from before the 60s to after
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
do you think the south voted for Republican Lincoln?
>>68182840
>The "Southern Strategy" never worked. Southern racists never switched sides.
Exactly. That's why even up to 2010 there was a "former" member of the KKK in the senate. He was a democrat.
>>68182943
>do you think the south voted for Republican Lincoln?
No, but they voted for Reagan. Not because of racism, but because of religion and abortion.
>>68182943
>do you think the south voted for Republican Lincoln?
They didn't vote for Douglas, either. They voted Breckinridge. Some of them voted Bell, too.
>>68182814
>No they didn't. The Southern Strategy is a conspiracy theory and nothing more.
explain to me how Republican Lincoln was a liberal who wanted to free the slaves and pissed off the conservative south so much they tried to leave the union
The Democrats had a lock on the whole of the south until the 1960s, George Wallace was a Democrat, now the Republicans have a lock on the conservative south
are you saying that did not happen?
>>68182840
>The "Southern Strategy" never worked. Southern racists never switched sides.
are you saying southern racists today mostly vote Democrat?
>>68183161
>The Democrats had a lock on the whole of the south until the 1960s
Southerners didn't vote democratic party in 1860, you complete and utter buffoon. I already told you they didn't vote for Douglas.
>>68183161
>pissed off the conservative south
>>>conservative
>>68182609
>Being rich reduces fertility.
Been middle class reduces fertility.
>Two comparable surveys from 1996 and 2004 report that among women age 40-49 in the top 1.3 percent of household earnings, 29 percent had three or more children in 1996, but 41 percent had three or more children in 2004. These earnings levels work out to $300,000 per year in 1996 and $400,000 per year in 2004 (it takes more to be in the top 1.3 percent
nowadays). The high proportion of 3 and 4 child families among the super-rich can affect the demographics in parts of Manhattan, but since it is confined to the very top 1.3 percent of households, it cannot explain measurable shifts in fertility at the national level.
>>68177355
>in the 1920s if you thought women should be allowed to vote, you were a liberal
The female vote created the socialist empire we have today OP. It did more harm then good to us.
>>68183161
They changed because the democrat party changed. Republicans have ultimately been the same, minus globalist conglomerate interests, probably brought in by the former democrats.
>>68177355
but all of those things are whats destroyed america
>>68181097
The Democrats are so racist that they elected the first black president in American history, Barack Hussein Obama.
And Republicans treated him with so much respect and dignity. They never claimed he was from Kenya and not an American,
>>68183161
>explain to me how Republican Lincoln was a liberal
He wasn't. He wanted to preserve the union at all costs. Incidentally, the FOUNDER of the Democrats was staunchly anti-successionist and would have sided with Lincoln in putting down the treasonous South.
>>68177490
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>>68181653
So conservatives admit LBJ did give black people equal voting rights.
>>68183504
Civil rights was passed by a republican legislature.
Liberals also thought eugenics was a great idea and wanted to prevent poor people and minorities from having children
>>68177355
>poor people should be allowed to see a doctor if they are sick without going to the ER
Poor people already get medicaid through the ACA
Trump wants to keep this expansion and I agree with that.
So under Bernie poor people get taxed out the ass for shit they already get. And if they are struggling as much as the leftist narrative suggests, then the higher taxes will LITERALLY kill them or something.
>>68183246
Southern racists today are a statistical insignificance. Well, they were until Soros started paying Blacks to burn down cities.
>>68181738
Nelson Rockefeller. Literally a Republican Vice President under Gerald Ford.
>>68179971
>this is what conservatives actually believe, they are not racist though
This is not a counter argument.
>today we bicker about if we are going to let gays marry and poor people see doctors
We seem to be having some pretty serious debates about immigration last I checked. Not to mention another series of racial riots.
>>68183069
>No, but they voted for Reagan. Not because of racism, but because of religion and abortion.
i partially agree with you, but they realized they could not be openly racist anymore and win nationally so they talked about "welfare queens" and opposed affirmative action, as a nod to the racists, the same way trump can call Mexicans rapists today
>You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”
http://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/
>>68183443
Hillary's campaign started that shit BTW.
Regardless of Conservative vs Liberal, Democrats have always been the most racist party.
Either through things like Indian reservations, Slavery, Jim Crow Segregation laws, Internment Camps during WW2 for Japanese-Americans, and constantly voting against Civil Rights.
Or in other ways like today where they belittle minorities by coddling them so they remain dependent on the Government, and thus continue to vote Democrat. It could be compared to Stockholm Syndrome.
>>68183581
LBJ had a Democratic majority House and Senate.
How fucking mentally retarded are you? You must be a Trump supporter.
>>68180492
I'm a conservative and I agree in theory that we need something to take the incredible burden of healthcare costs off the mind of the populace. However, government controlled single payer results in rationing, ridiculous wait times, and death panels. I don't know how to fix it, but I do know that government interference is never the answer to anything.
>>68183282
they actively voted against the liberal republicans
so you are saying the democratic party was never the majority party of the south the way the Republican part is today
cool
>>68181103
cool dude using hashtags kek
>>68178901
You're on a roll today, someone pissed in your cornflakes?
>>68180968
>60s prosperity was a phenomenom in all developed world, it wasn't because of "liberals", it was a result of the postwar boom
Literally 3 recessions in the 50s under Eisenhower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1958
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1960%E2%80%9361
>>68177355
It's funny because many elitist liberals are calling for reverse segregation these days, "muh safe spaces" etc so who's the true Lib?
>>68183406
>Republicans have ultimately been the same,
republicans were the social justice warriors of the 1800s
they've changed a lot
>>68183661
>wanting Blacks to live under the same laws and programs as Whites, equally, is KKK tier racism.
Ok Soros paid shill.
>>68180940
>MUH GOLD
>muh hyperinflation
Fucking tards man.
>>68183796
Nah man, John McAfee all the way.
>>68182180
Trying this hard. Tumblr is down the hall and to the left, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
>>68177355
>yfw in american history the liberals are usually right and win in the long run
nah, it's called the slippery slope
it's not right and it leads to the destruction of a country and its values
nice b8 btw
>>68182547
>selectively posting economical statistics that support your world view
You mean posting facts from official statistics, not fucking rwnj websites.
Funny how you don't complain about any of the right wing debunked copy pasta that appears over and over.
My comments and my charts actually apply to the fucking conversation.
>>68177355
>>68177507
This is the exact opposite though.....
Nice sources you've got there.
A basic google search of Slave legislature or legislature regarding women.
Its demonstrable that Liberals spearheaded racism and misogyny.
Also
>implying the modern left wouldn't be unrecognizable to their progenitors.
>>68183466
>He wasn't. He wanted to preserve the union at all costs
oh he was not a liberal abolitionist?
I guess that's why the fucking second the war was over he freed all the slaves
i also guess that's why he said and wrote about slavery being wrong so much the south basically tried to break away from the union when he was elected fearing he would abolish slavery, which he eventually did
>>68177355
So liberals have always been wrong?
>>68177355
>in the 1850s if you thought slavery was wrong you were a liberal
Liberals were the ones wanting slavery idiot
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>>68181672
In the end, conservatives can't hide their racism and bigotry while trying to claim that liberals are the REAL racists.
You folded like a cheap suit.
>>68183616
>Southern racists today are a statistical insignificance.
they really are not though, and their "racism" has turned to hating "illegal immigrants" and all Muslims and women who want equal rights and gay people and "welfare queens" and "thugs"
they don't like anyone who is not white and US born and if you can tell them they are right for it by saying you support "traditional marriage" and want build a wall between us and mexico and want to ban all muslims from coming into the country
you just might be trump and win the GOP nomination
>>68184158
I never said he wasn't an abolitionist. But his reasons for doing so and his attempt to hold the Union together at any cost (he would have accepted slavery if necessary to end the war and preserve the Union, he said that many times) were very Conservative and rooted in his Northern Christian values and staunch Americanism.
>>68184288
Racism is bad, apparently, yet the left has consistently made race central to their politics and policies.
Why is that?
>>68184525
>"illegal immigrants"
Why do you put that in quotes?
There is nothing ambiguous about what an illegal immigrant is; it's anyone who has entered this country illegally.
>>68183904
>It's funny because many elitist liberals are calling for reverse segregation these days, "muh safe spaces" etc so who's the true Lib?
feeling oppressed are you?
>>68184525
>their "racism" has turned to hating "illegal immigrants"
>>68183812
>so you are saying
I never said anything.
>>68183069
>No, but they voted for Reagan. Not because of racism
Why has Canadian shitposting went up by 800% over the last few weeks? Are they seeing le weed man destroying their economy and nation, and they're shitposting to fight the depression?
>>68184666
>nice trips
but not at all, I will never feel oppressed because segregation will never make me feel that way.
>>68184808
Lawn jockies were common and popular lawn ornaments with no hatred behind them.
>>68178935
Some niggers will try to beat me half to death and I'll wind up non-fatally wounding of them. They scurry, I wind up like one of the Jamjar /k/ guys, and nobody wins. You should know that these people don't know how to communicate with their words by now. The response to anything deemed offensive is violence, at least according to our culture.
>>68182814
>No they didn't. The Southern Strategy is a conspiracy theory and nothing more.
You're mentally handicapped and you require medication.
The RNC Chairman apologized for the Southern Strategy in 2005.
RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302342.html
Read and weep Trumptard.
>>68179400
But the ideology has swapped. At the ratification of the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments, the democrats were more conservative and the republican party was more liberal.
>>68177490
As usual FPBP
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>>68184555
Brilliant argument.
This is you right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AypT0F-xv4Q
>>68177355
Look where they got us.
Better start backtracking
