Should evolution be taught in schools?
U guys in sweden should talk about other things first
>>68118050
Why shouldn't it be taught in schools?
You might as well ask should gravity be taught in schools.
>>68118311
Could you explain your reasoning, please?
>we wuz apes and shit
No. It's not inclusionary to black kids and makes them feel left out.
>>68118368
>>68118311
Evolution is a controversial THEORY
Intelligent design, backed up by creation science, should also be presented so school children aren't handicapped by Darwin's satanic lie
>>68118050
No, evolution teaches that some people are superior to others. It's a very racist belief.
>>68118050
A better question would be, IS evolution taught in schools? I don't remember my evolution class. It's just a topic like any other in an overstuffed curriculum. Why is it such a huge fucking deal?
>>68118406
Hahahahahahahahahaha completely under-rated
>>68118492
Rare
>>68118525
Tobago 8^^DD
>>68118050
That feel when it is not even a question if there is something else than Evolution here
Feels good Catholic ;3333333
>>68118638
t. reddit
>>68118367
Just like the theory of gravity, the theory of evolution is a well established, and documented scientific theory that has heaps of evidence supporting it. Of course it should be taught in schools, along with other scientific theories that have laid the ground work for our modern understanding of existence.
>>68118492
The only thing that is "controversial" about it, is in the heads of creationist morons who don't understand science and can't accept anything that goes against their religious dogma.
>>68118050
Only the way Black Science Man explains it. He has the least arguable explanation to it I've ever heard.
>>68118406
>>68118050
I am NOT a fucking ape and I don't care what text in a book says. God created us in his own image and you can either accept it or live in denial. i honestly dont fuck a fuck
>>68118690
Trinidad though
>>68118050
obviously
>>68118691
As a lost Catholic what makes you feel that way?
>>68118788
no you're not an ape because you evolved into a homo sapiens
>>68118050
no
biology is shit tier science and a waste of time
teach kid something useful like math physics or engineering
>>68118406
>>68118831
that Catholicism is on par with science and protestants still believe that granfathe on a clouse created world with his magic wand
Evolution is literally just a theory. When I went to school in Texas they taught us the basic premises of Protestant Creationism, intelligent design, and evolution and let us decide for ourselves. I think that's a good system that suits everybody.
>>68118788
>not fucking fucks
Disgusting senpai
>>68118951
common core, ladies and gentlemen. no one is left behind and thats how it turns out.
>>68118492
Its a theory because you cant recreate it in a lab you Fintard
>>68118050
Yes
>>68119044
Please explain to me why what I just said is bad.
>>68119096
>cant recreate it in a lab
So then why teach it?
>>68118492
There's nothing controversial about it. The controversy surrounding it is nothing but a farce created by people because of muh feels.
>>68118690
I could go for a lip right now
>>68118862
>biology is a shit-tier science
Says the person who has never required medical attention or taken any drugs. Shit bait, m8.
>>68119096
Firstly, yes you can and yes it has, and next, that's not why it's a theory. Do yourself a favor and look up what a scientific theory actually means.
>>68118951
>>68118492
Yes it's a theory, not a Hypothesis.
>>68119246
>Says the person who has never required medical attention or taken any drugs
Correct I never have
>>68118406
>>68119251
Wait. Point me to an experiment where scientists made evolution happen in a lab real quick
>>68119096
>>68119170
>evolutionists admitting Darwin's idea is just a theory
Something cannot come from nothing
Intelligent design through the great flood perfectly explains the grand canyon
EVOLUTIONISM ON LIFE SUPPORT
>>68118951
Creatonism/ID has no place in any biology class because there´s zero evidence for it..... and biology is a scientific field, including faith into it is undermining the most basic principles of science.
It can be tought in religion classes though, wouldnt bat an eye cause thats were it belongs.
Personally it is so frigging stupid that I get headaches even thinking about it but well... to everyone his own.
You dont teach art in an math class or french in an english class..
>>68119352
mutations
>>68119139
that you want me to explain it to you really just further proves my point
>>68119352
The nylonase experiment and ring species.
>>68119461
No. That's a cop out
>>68118050
>should facts be taught in school
Well gee, you tell me, Swedistan.
>it's just a theory durr
Scientific illiterates need not apply.
>>68119477
>Explain your reasoning
>ARE YOU SERIOUS BRO?!
I'll go ahead and tally this on the internet arguments won board. Thanks medpac.
>>68119511
>Scientific illiterates need not apply.
But it is a theory
>>68118492
Take an introductory biology course and I promise you'll find out very quickly that evolution occurs and it is far more complex than you can imagine.
it shouldn't be in science class, it should be in philosophy class or in religious education
as a kid i was taught it as a scientific fact, i only realised it was just a theory as an adult. kids are being brainwashed into atheists
>>68119536
do what you must. I already have won
>>68119375
>He doesn't know the difference between theory and Hypothesis.
>>68119494
>show me evidence
>okay here
>NO THAT DOESNT COUNT
>>68118050
No. Because it leads to racism. Far better to believe the "God created everyone equal" fairy tale than to admit that blacks and whites had lived in different ecosystems for thousands of generations, so could not possibly have evolved in the same way, and at the same rate. Evolution says so, only a God created us all the same theory is valid.
>>68119605
>that evolution occurs
That is different that Darwin's theory of evolution
>1859 + 157
>people not believing in evolution
wew
>>68119352
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment
Didnt read that wiki article but I think that is the expirement... bacteria eveolve rather quickly-
They recently found bacteria eating plastics, which are around only for ~50years.
Evolution is pretty much proven, take genetics into account and well... I dont see any way to argue against that.
Only way is something like intelligent design but that is entirely faith based and as such has nothing to do with science and should be left in religion classes.
>>68119605
Trust me, I've studied both theories thoroughly. Creation science clearly points to creation as accounted in genesis. amen.
>>68119572
Yes, but the term theory has different connotations in science than it does in everyday language.
>>68119711
>All theories stay the same forever for some reason
>>68119273
This guy gets it
>>68119810
Faroese is such a cute language :3
>>68119697
>mutations occur
>BUT NO, THAT MEANS EVOLUTION!
>>68119810
>creation science
Now there is an oxymoron.
>>68119572
Okay, just go and read what an scientific theory is..... a little tip:
The word you keep using, you dont know what it means.
>>68119096
Get cockroaches. Spray them with bug spray. Breed the survivors. Spray the offspring with bug spray. Breed survivors. Spray again. All offspring are now immune to bug spray. Congrats, evolution
>>68118050
I know you want only Islam and the truth of Allah to be taught there, but I'll go with the real science.
>>68119894
stop oppressing elfdalian
The mind-numbing ignorance about basic science demonstrated by commentors in this thread truly appalls me
>>68119956
>>68119827
No it wouldnt
That still does not make anything about the statement 'evolution is only a theory incorrect'
>>68120014
My grandmother speaks that lel.
>>68120045
* 'evolution is only a theory' incorrect
>>68119352
Not actually in a lab, but the evolution of the peppered moth is a well-documented process.
Similarly, the subway mosquito is quickly outcompeted when not in manmade tunnels and could not have lived before the advent of modern cities, therefore that species must have come into being in modern times. They're doing some interesting genetic analysis on mosquitoes that live in subway systems around the world, it's fascinating stuff.
>>68118050
Wait, I live in a Catholic shithole with 2 religion lessons per week in our schools (they are sponsored by our goverment) but I still had evolution in biology lessons in midschool and high school. The fuck is wrong with West?
>>68120045
Alone the wording of "is ONLY a theory" shows your lack of understanding.
Theroy =/= scientific theory
Yes
There is no controversy here. The only controversy that exists is made up by creationists who first pretend there is any scientific dispute here and then use that fake controversy to claim "WELL WHY DON'T WE TEACH BOTH XD"
It's nothing but a ploy to get moronic shit like creationism into schools.
>>68120017
Thank you for restoring some of my faith in the US educational system.... these threads always put a dent into it.
>>68120045
>only a scientific theory
Ftfy
>>68118492
RARE
Also this fampai >>68120270
>>68120270
>Theroy =/= scientific theory
Then why isnt it "Darwin's scientific theory of Evolution"
Again please tell me what about the statement 'only a theory' is incorrect
>>68120045
>>68120104
Scientific theory is fact. Repeatedly proven fact
>but evolution is a theory
Yeah, SCIENTIFIC theory, ie true. So all you're doing by saying evolution is a theory is agree that it happens, yet you take a stance against it so you look retarded. Not believing it in the first place is retarded
>>68120045
Theories are made up of facts you ignorant shit.
>>68120386
>Mauritius
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU?
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>>68120406
By definition there can never a definite proof for any theory, hence why scientific theory is the highest form of "proof" an explanation can have.
Here is the difference, evolution and natural selection is proven, period. Nothing about it. It is the process that combines these two things and the explanation of how the interaction works that forms the scientific theory known as the theory of evolution.
So even if scientists are COMPLETELY wrong about their theory, evolution is STILL true.
>>68120460
>If I shit in your wine it's still a delicious beverage because it has wine in it
Feel free to try again
>>68120517
>>68120432
>>68120460
>Scientific theory is fact
What the fuck are you talking about?
Is string theory a fact?
>>68120555
Theories are only made up of facts.
>>68119572
There's a serious difference between a theory and a hypothesis you fucking nigger
>>68120534
>there can never a definite proof for any theory
> evolution and natural selection is proven,
You just contradicted yourself
>>68119572
Alright, this conversation happens in every single evolution thread, and I'm tired of seeing it.
A scientific theory is an explanation of the way the world works AND a reason for why the world works that way.
A scientific law (think Newton's laws or the laws of thermodynamics) are actually "weaker" than theories. A law simply states the way the world works, without providing a reason.
The law of gravity simply states that matter attracts other matter in a particular way. The moment someone attaches an explanation for why matter attracts matter, it becomes a theory—for example, the law of universal gravitation compared to the theory of general relativity. General relativity explains why matter attracts, law of gravity simply states that it does.
>>68120697
I never used the term hypothesis
>>68120406
You do realize that since the time of Darwin much has changed in our understanding of the topic, so why bring his book into it?
Also, are you seriously arguing with the title of a book now? Are you totally retarded?
He laid the basic foundation, thats it.
>>68120710
The theory is the explanation. This cannot be proven to be true, only approximated.
Evolution and natural selection are observations. They are true by default.
The theory of evolution is not _IF_ evolution exists, only how it works. The fact that it exists is just that: A fact.
>>68118050
for me, the biggest question to evolution is this:
"what resulted in the formation of sexes? and why the existance of sexes dramatically increases evolution?"
>>68120768
>are actually "weaker" than theories.
No its not
A law if far less likely to ever be proven wrong
>>68120768
You forgot Hypothesis, which is how we think it works until proven right or wrong.
>>68120603
Well that post shows you're never going to listen so why do you bother to communicate?
Go start a thread that says: "I don't believe evolution is real and i'm not willing to discuss it, only quibble. There is no chance i will see anyone's point of view."
>>68120620
Yes. Her genes survived, his didn't
>>68120711
No. That's not how evolution works. Evolution is adapting to the current environment. That means getting stronger or weaker depending on what would help them survive better
>>68120620
Even IF whites are the superior race, it means fuckall if we can't out-breed other races in the long run.
>>68120711
a useless giant lizard vs a vital domesticated animal
>>68120677
Even if that were true, it doesn't matter. Intelligent design and evolution are both theories, but one is clearly more true than the other.
>>68120711
>implying a T.Rex could have survived in todays enviroment.
Chickens,Cows and pigs are succesful animals cuz they are beneficial to humans unlike for example elephants and tigers that are endangered species.
>creationism
>THE major reason right of center philosophy was pushed out of public schools
>only fringe retards and Muslims still consider it relevant
>you want to push for it now
pls no
>>68120711
>narrow definition of success
>doesn't understand that priapulids used to rule the world and haven't changed since then.
Murrkkka
>>68120837
>>68120835
>>68120899
Again what about the statement 'only a theory is false'
Why can't you answer this basic question
>>68118050
Sure, but Schools should teach that Boltzmann Brains are even more likely than evolution.
This is some grade A shitposting going on in here. If swede-fag hadnt started the thread, it would have been disregarded already
>>68120878
Rewards. Sex feels good for a reason. Sexual pleasure is the reward for doing something to help life live. You reproduce, it feels good, you have a reason to do it. Same with taking care of the babies. They'll deny it or say its something dumb like spirituality, but women get sexual pleasure from breast feeding babies. Yes they do. Sometimes they even orgasm from it and feel weird about it, which is where the spirit bullshit comes in to try to make them not feel like pedophiles. Anyway, that's why
>>68120964
Intelligent design is not a theory, it consists of exactly no facts. No observations, it's nothing.
>>68119916
>change happens
>no it doesn't, actual genetic change doesn't count btw!
>>68118951
You poor misguided fool.
>>68120964
intelligent design is a hypotesis.
How can math be real if it's just a theory (a Gauss)?
>>68120878
Some bacteria transfer dna between different specimens of the same species.
The existence of sexes dramatically increases evolution because offspring receive traits from both parents. This creates far more genetic diversity than asexual reproduction would, which means that the population adapts to the environment faster.
>>68118050
I think this thread proves that evolution needs to be taught in school because everyone knows fuck all about it.
>>68118492
Yo mate, are you the one I talked to about how to emigrate to the Faroe Islands?
The one who told me how you hunt whales and sheeps?
>>68120534
>By definition there can never a definite proof for any theory
hmmmmmmm
Then why is the precession of Mercury considered proof for the theory of general relativity?
>>68120885
Laws tend to be things that "just are." Entropy increases, period. Nobody can explain why, it just does. Most laws describe the fundamental facts of the universe that don't really have any reason behind them.
>>68120894
Hypothesis is the proposed explanation for an established phenomenon, separate category from theories. A hypothesis doesn't become a theory when proven.
>>68121170
>'only a theory is false'
That's a statement?
You're fuckin brain damaged or something, bye.
>>68121387
No, I rarely post on /pol/
>shitposting this hard
ooooy veeey creationist shills
>>68121508
damn, do you hunt whales and sheeps tho?
>>68121255
Not an argument.
>>68121291
Stop moving the goalposts.
>>68121219
[Citation Needed]
>>68121388
observation != theory
Here is an example: You see a white swan, it is undeniably white. You see another white swan, it is also undeniably white. These two swans are observations. The fact that they are white is a fact (duh). You now formulate a theory based on your observations: "All swans are white".
You can keep finding white swans, every new white swan that you find is another proof for your theory, after a while you are reasonably sure that your theory is correct, because you have found thousands of white swans but never any other color, so your theory has some credibility behind it.
But here is the important part: You can never ever call it a fact. You can find a trillion white swans, no matter how many, it only takes a single black swan to ruin your theory. And you can never ever prove that there might not be a black swan out there.
>>68120878
formation of sexes makes it near-mandatory that in order to reproduce you have to trade genetic information with your own species, therefore selecting and bringing about the quickest changes in the entire species due to the transfer and reorganizing of the data.
If there were no sexes, that would make every individual organism only reproduce with copies of itself. Positive traits that would emerge from one individual would not spread to the entire population, but remain inside the single cell-line of the evolved.
With sexes however, the positive trait is spread far more widely along the entire population, where it takes root and is replicated and refined further than a single-line family could. This is the point of sexes: Cooperation within species for the mutual benefit of every strain and family inside it.
>>68121575
My father and I usually buy 3 sheep every year from a farmer on Sandoy and slaughter them and eat the meat throughout the year.
I participate in whale hunts when the grind is driven to my village, but I am not certified to kill whales.
>>68118492
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>>68119572
Are you not taught what a Scientific Theory is in Burgerland?
>>68121894
Is evolution one or not?
>>68121841
That sounds so awesome.
I want to live on Faroe Islands, I'm White too.
>>68118050
Evolution is a proven scientific fact and anyone who refutes that deserve the lethal injection.
>>68118757
I guess you posted that image reffering to yourself?
>Just like the theory of gravity, the theory of evolution is a well established, and documented scientific theory that has heaps of evidence supporting it
Are you fucking stupid nigger?
There is actually no scientific evidence for gravity and neither is there any for evolution, but to show how retarded you trully are you didnt even talk about macro or micro evolution, goddamn why do they have internet in a mental illness facility?
All Newton did was write a book about as thick as the bible describing his theory of gravity, but he never proved anything scientifically in fact he couldnt even start a sentence whitout the word IF.
>>68121961
I like fulmar hunting in august the most 2bh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUv4sEyfcw
>>68121692
That wouldn't be a theory. Theories must explain the world, not just describe it.
Also, you seem to be suggesting (although I don't want to put words in your mouth) that we should never teach anything that might be wrong. If that is what you are suggesting, then I guess no one should ever go to school.
>>68119246
Lol biology and chemistry are physics but friendly goyim want to keep the secrets of chemistry and biology secret. They tell us they cant make gold, well they can, and they do. They tell us they dont have a cure for aids or cancer, but when rockefeller gets sick he is magically cured. Fucking dense goyim keeping the rest of us down.
>>68122014
This is some next level b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8.
I especially like how you presume that modern theories of gravity are still newtonian in nature, instead of being far more elaborate and well established to better describe the ways matter attracts itself in the cosmos.
The sad thing is that there actually are retards who believe the shit you wrote.
>>68122095
>>68121841
>"Ohh that's just my whale hunting license"
Is that a requirement in order to get your Viking certification?
>>68122224
No I'm just explaining the difference between an observation and a theory.
Evolution is an observation, not a theory. It's confirmed, over and over again, there is no debate about this.
The "theory of evolution" specifically deals with HOW evolution is achieved in nature, namely by a process through mutation and natural selection (both of which are also independently observed btw). The theory just describes how these three forces/observations play together. Nothing more. All components of it are fact. Evolution is a fact, natural selection is a fact, mutations are a fact. How they all interact with each other is the theory.
>Believing in creationism.
>Current year and scientific knowledge level.
>>68122393
In order to kill the whales (using a spinal lance and then cutting its throat) you need to take a course, you can still participate though (pulling the whales on land, driving the whales, etc).
>>68118050
Evolutionist btfo.
Check and mate
>>68122385
>I cant dispute your argument so I'm just gonna call everyone who believes you stupid.
Well done broski.
But you forgot something pretty important, and that is that no matter what theory of gravity you want to throw at me not ONE has scientific proof. And matter attracting other matter? Well thats a really funny theory, its just a shame that no matter on this earth as ever been attracted to any other mass, and you willl ofcourse throw the size argument at me, but it doesnt work that way faggot, the forces should decrease as the object decreases in size sure, but no matter how low you are testing the pull of 2 objects they never pull at each other.
And dont worry I'm not gonna leave you in the dark that would be rude, you think you're so smart so I'll let you figure out for yourself why density is what makes us stick to the earth and not gravity.
>>68122653
Lol, no evolutionist will reply to you don't worry you completely blew them out of the water.
>>68118492
Uncommon.
>>68122653
They live in Chicago and Detroit.
>>68122002
You should be content with the probability that those who refute evolution will inevitably be naturally selected against.
>>68122696
>its just a shame that no matter on this earth as ever been attracted to any other mass
Then explain to me why you, and everything around you, isn't floating off to space right now?
Boom, proof of gravity, right there.
Also, gravity waves were observed just this year.
If you think that I will participate in your banal game any further than this, think again, "master troll".
>>68122653
God damn
there are not millions of the first one
monkeys still evolved from it but in a different way than humans
WE DIDN'T EVOLVE FROM MODERN DAY MONKEYS
Considering it's pseudo-science and proven wrong 200 years ago. No.
It's just another Jewish teaching with half-truths.
Besides. What type of evolution are you talking about?
6 types.
Only real one is Microevolution. The rest are fairy tale bullshit Jewish lies.
>>68122894
>leafless Canada
YOU LITERALLY CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>68119810
Plus, genesis describes perfectly in the exact right ORDER what is needed for life, if it were random and the order of thigs was fucked up, then there wouldnt be life possible.
>>68123072
preach
Honestly, I can get behind /pol/ being a place for political ideologies not socially acceptable in the modern day, but these threads are just fucking ridiculous. I understand that people want to adhere to their religion and that's cool, but refuting science in preference of scripture is fucking retarded.
Hey guess what? The Old Testament is literally the Torah: it's all Jewish folk tales and has no basis in reality, it should be abandoned in favour of Jesus' teachings -- after all, he died so that the laws of the Old Testament no longer apply. Anyone who zealously follows the Bible blindly are the scum of the Earth and are no better than the Muslims that are conquering them.
>>68123017
You stupid goyim. You didnt even read my post.
Go read it again because you're asking me a question I have already answered.
>>68123041
Macro-Evolution Is Micro-Evolution in a longer timespan
>>68122653
There aren't millions of the first one, unless you are literally implying humans evolved FROM chimps not shared a common ancestor.
Also we have all the middle ones bub
>>68122335
You can try an experiment to see the effects of gravity yourself. Go down to your local sauna house and blow a gay man. You'll notice that his cum will shoot on your face, because it is a attracted to it. The reason this happens is because objects that exhibit a big enough faggitational force, like yourself, tend to pull queerness to them. This is why objects like you tend to have male bodies orbiting them in spaces. But how do objects like yourself gain such a large faggitational force? Well, the simple answer is, "Simply by existing in space". When objects seize to exist, this stops. You can see this yourself too. Just make yourself explode so you can seize to exist. However, if you're a big enough faggot, when you seize to exist can instead turn into a giant black hole and suck anything that comes near you.
>>68123041
Atleast there is someone here with half a brain.
I bet you are the only one here who knows what pseudo science means.
>>68123153
>Citation needed.
>>68118951
>teach three perspectives in science class
>only one has any scientific evidence
>only one is provable
>only one doesn't rely on an invisible sky wizard to magic animals into existence
And Texas wonders why the rest of the country thinks they're retarded
They literally teach magic in biology class
>>68123232
Haahahahah, thanks for the good laugh, but you didnt prove me wrong yet, which means you're still wrong which perfectly explains why you are mad and trying to offend me. Please keep trying.
>>68123308
Here you go bud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution
>>68118788
>>68123149
Come on m8, you need to seriously work on your b8 game.
You can't expect me to engage with you any further when your "argument" boils down to "lol, density is what sticks us to earth".
I mean, come the fuck on.
>>68122393
Yes, because some people are mad that we kill whales, so they said we have to get certification and coaching on how to kill them.
I'm gonna get my certificate soon.
>>68123346
>false
>false
>false
>false
GG Shill, please keep trying.
>>68119809
bacteria is stil bacteria this somehow proofs evolution top kek with your faith
>>68123421
Wikipedia is not a source. If you want to find out why go to the Holocaust Revisionism page, oh wait they changed it to Holocaust Denial because free speech is only for Jews.
Fuck if we are gonna throw around semi-plausible sources then I will assravage you fucktards way too hard so lets stick to the truth this time agent.
>>68123153
Were you there "billions" of years ago?
If not. You have no proof of this. You are just talking out of your ass.
If you haven't seen a kind of animal turn into another kind if animal. You have no room to say Macroevolution is fact.
Besides, considering the earth is scientifically less than 10,000 years old (if billions, the moon would be on top of the earth and the earth would be rotating too fast for your bogus theory to come into play) you don't have the time to "macro evolve".
And no. Carbon dating is unreliable as fuck.
>>68123460
You replied to me 3 times, not once did you try to disprove any of my arguments or give arguments for your statement. And the n you have the balls to call me a troll? I think you are crying right now, because your ego is being broken down, and your little brain just cant understand why they would lie to you at school, stupid goyim why the fuck do you even come to pol?
>>68123680
Thank you for providing us with facts.
I especially like the last one and I would like to elaborate on it because I can feel the faggots preparing flame posts.
>Why is carbon dating unreliable?
Well turns out scientists dont even know how unaccurate it is. They say somewhere between 5.000 and 30.000 years the sample becomes unreliable.
>>68122014
>There is actually no scientific evidence for gravity
Actually lol'd.
Thanks netherlands.
jesus christ these people are stupid
not even gonna shave 2 years off of my life to argue with braindead faggots
>>68123680
>>68123614
Holy shit how simple can you be
All of the small changes in Micro-Evolution eventually build up so that the subject will not be recognisable as what it once was therefore we have Macro-Evolution this is the easiest thing to understand about Evolution, yet you can't comprehend It
>>68123997
>Only laughs, doesnt provide any evidence.
Thank you for your input, if you have anything to say with a little more value then please go ahead.
>>68118492
>What is a scientific theory
>>68124196
I'll offer you one disproof of your silly b8:
Satellite's trajectories would not have worked if the theory of gravity were not correct.
This is unequivocal evidence for the theory of gravity.
>>68124137
>I cant prove my theory so I'll just say its the same as the proven theory.
No faggot thats not how it works. Micro-evolution works on a whole other level then Macro. Micro happens in your body every fucking second yet we don;t change into fucking zebras after 4.000 years do we?
>>68124196
Jump, If you fall into the sky, there is no gravity.
If you fall to the earth, that's gravity.
>>68123153
Were you there "billions" of years ago?
If not. You have no proof of this. You are just talking out of your ass.
If you haven't seen a kind of animal turn into another kind if animal. You have no room to say Macroevolution is fact.
Besides, considering the earth is scientifically less than 10,000 years old (if billions, the moon would be on top of the earth and the earth would be rotating too fast for your bogus theory to come into play) you don't have the time to "macro evolve".
And no. Carbon dating is unreliable as fuck.
>>68123727
Alright, I'll humor you one last time.
If density is what sticks us to earth, why do objects with different densities (though same overall weight) fall down at the exact same speed in a vacuum? A classic demonstrative example of a bunch of feathers and a steel weight, both with the exact same mass, but distinctly different densities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frZ9dN_ATew
If your retarded notion was true, the denser object would start accelerating due to it's higher density drawing it stronger to the ground than the less dense object.
That of course, isn't the case, because it is not the density that pulls objects towards one another, it is the gravity that their mass exerts to every other body of mass around it.
This isn't even high-school physics m8. You gotta work on your trolling.
>>68124370
micro is macro
macro is the effects of micro over a very long period of time
fucking
idiot
>>68124382
were you?
no, so you can't dispute his claims
i was around billions of years ago, and it happened.
BTFO
>>68124304
scientific theory is a buzzword invented by the UN to downplay intelligent design
>>68124370
Macro-Evolution IS Micro-Evolution on A longer timescale that IS THE LITERAL DEFINITION. I gave you a source and, As I suspected, you did not read it.
>>68119352
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080421-lizard-evolution.html
>>68119809
So evolution does not change things to different spieces just gives them cool mutant powers like the x-men?
>>68124451
>micro is macro
a train is the same as a boat
Why are atheists so neckbearded? Maybe they hate Jesus because they were born ugly.
>>68124685
nice strawman, but no, that doesn't count as an argument
>>68124368
>pseudo science
Lets start with an assumption: Gravity is real!
Ok now lets prove it: Well other objects dont pull to eachother, but we will just ignore that proof because it doesnt fit in with my assumption.
Ok now lets look at sattelites, oh yes this fits in with my assumption great this is proof. Listen everyone I just proved gravity.
>Being this retarded. Only a jew could come up with pseudo science, but only a blind goyim will believe it.
>>68124743
you can be a theist and believe in evolution
most of them believe that God guided evolution
>>68124685
wow. I've spoken to some retarded people In my life but you are near the top of the list
>>68120711
There's technically no dinosaurs, so yes, the hen is more successful
>>68124743
I'm pretty certain Atheists don't believe in Jesus
>>68123583
The lonicera fly cannot survive without a particular species of berry that was introduced to North America less than 300 years ago and is only present in North America, not being attested to anywhere else either today or in the historical record. It therefore most likely evolved within the last 300 years.
The mosquitoes living in the London Underground cannot live outside that ecosystem and, according to genetic testing, all derive from a common ancestor. It is therefore obvious that they must have evolved fairly recently.
>>68123680
There are plenty of things that we can't prove, but should still teach in schools. As far as I know, nobody saw John Wilkes Boothe pull the trigger, so should we teach that we don't really know who killed Lincoln?
>>68124748
>Ok now lets prove it: Well other objects dont pull to eachother, but we will just ignore that proof because it doesnt fit in with my assumption.
Except you haven't proved that they don't.
>Listen everyone I just proved gravity.
Now you're moving the goal post. It's evidence of gravity.
>>68124404
>Treats density as if its gravity.
>Doesnt understand why it doesnt work.
Well well, looks like I spotted the flaw in your theory. I never said density works the same way as gravity as if dense objects attract objects that are less dense. I'm not going to explain how density can replace gravity because you already have with your vacuum experiment.
Only someone with an IQ of 80 would try to disprove something only to prove the other party is right.
>>68123982
>Dutch guy who denies evolution
I'm ashamed of my country
>>68124451
You're missing the point. I don't have to prove anything. Religion is based in faith. So it evolution.
And you also don't understand the movement of the moon & earth.
The earth is slowing down, the moon is drifting away.
This means ((((((billionsssssss))))) <- "Jew echo" of years ago the earth was going faster (winds up to 50,000 mph) and the moon was a few inches from earths surface.
Look it up.
That shit never happened. Universe isn't billions of years old. If only they taught you little shits actual scientific facts instead of theory. :(
>>68124796
Atheist dont believe in magic sky man , but they do believe that life just started to exist on its own in 1 second billions of years ago
> believe book written by Goyims for goyims to control population into believing in imaginary God.
But muh faith in real. Book by jews states we were created in God's image. Kek.
>scientific proof we have evolved.
Muh book of Jebus proves you wrong
>>68124920
Its your theory, you have to try and prove it before I can correct you faggot. You are bring pseudo science to a whole new level.
>I have no proof for my theory, but unless someone proves it is false it will remain true.
>>68125131
Not all Atheists believe In "The Big Bang"
>>68118050
YES
/thread
>>68125122
you do have to prove things
lol
"i don't have to prove anything because i believe it's real!!!!!!!"
we would still live in the stone age if all of us were as retarded as you
Evolution is just a theory, like gravity or cause and effect. Technically, there's no reasonable justification to think that the future will resemble the past, and so we can't make any completely reliable predictions at all.
>>68125131
>magic skyman started to exist on its own in 1 second billions of years ago
>>68125084
You should be ashamed of your country, of yourself and of everything you are a part of. If you dont see why, then the world is beter off without you.
>>68124900
Flies are still flies
>>68125122
Evolution is real, we can make it happen, we can map it out by looking at the DNA of living things, you're an idiot. Have you ever seen cows, dogs, pigs, corn, bananas or apples? Those species and sub-species were created by humans from other creatures. You're a fuckin idiot dude.
>>68118788
A fucking leaf!
>>68125210
>Its your theory, you have to try and prove it before I can correct you faggot.
No, it's not my theory. I just said there was evidence for it. And there is.
>>68125247
You dont understand religion, but you are opening your mouth?
Why not stay silent when you know nothing about the subject? Why is it that people always have this urge to talk out of their ass?
>>68125287
I guess you're fine with horse flies landing on you, since house flies don't hurt, right?
>>68118050
What?
>>68125122
>evolution based on faith
Well, I guess all the DNA tests that support it don't mean shit. I guess nothing we've learned in genetics uses the theory of evolution as a basis. I guess all the medical miracles and GMOs and God knows what else are complete bullshit based on something that requires faith. When was the last time something you read in the Bible could be applied to the real world and create a tangible outcome?
>>68125084
the jews have destroyed the dutch christfags proof is all around you if you where not blind.
deus vult
>>68118492
You can't be serious, sometimes I wonder if /pol/ has never taken a science class in their entire life.
>>68125397
i do understand religion
but that doesn't make it correct just because you want it to be
shut the fuck up retard
>>68118050
Yup
>>68118050
>first I was like wtf
>then I noticed the flag
>then I went "whoa! Sweden has stopped teaching evolution in schools so they don't offend Muslims, so progressive!"
>SWEDEN YES!
Keep up the good work neighbour.
Creationism has about scientific credibility as denying man made climate change.
Which is funny because both of those things are heavily funded by interest parties who want to further their agenda (oil industry and the church respectively) and are actively sabotaging scientific process and the community by falsifying information and posting bogus research.
>>68124900
Lol, do you really believe Boothe shot Lincoln? I guess you also believe Oswald shot John?
>Feels good knowing american history beter than an american, which only rpoves how jewed education is.
>>68124196
This is awesome. 9/10.
ITT: creationists can't argue against evolution SP instead they resort to the good old fashioned "heh YOU ddnt see evolution happen so how can you know it's true!!!"
there's no getting through to these ones lads, let's hope they don't pass on their genes so we can evolve into a more intelligent species :^)
>>68124996
Oh, don't you try to weasel out of this.
> I never said density works the same way as gravity as if dense objects attract objects that are less dense.
Then how does density cause objects to fall to the ground, you retard?
You have not adressed the question; why do objects with the same mass, but different densities, fall down at the same rate in a vacuum? If density is what causes objects to fall down, the denser should fall down faster.
I am actually intrigued of how you think your idiotic notion actually works.
>>68125395
>There is evidence for it! I promise guys there is evidence!
>Guys? guys??? WHY DONT YOU BELIEVE ME I PROMISE THERE IS EVEDENCE I JUST LOST IT. GUYSSS???
>>68125594
this is shit bait but it's entertaining ig
>>68125225
the big bang proofs a begining and is more god related , then the universe was always there.
>>68125509
> I dont understand the post this dutchfag made.
>I'll just say I did understand and ill tell him to shut up! That will teach him!
>Evolution is just a theory
>Intelligent design has a scientific backing
As a Med student this thread is incredibly disturbing, you people not only are unaware of basic human biology but also unaware of how flawed and inneficient we are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_evolution
it isn't that hard lmao
>>68125777
now you're just getting buttmad and strawmanning
wew
>>68125492
Evolution threads are trolls trolling trolls m8.
With the occasional actual fundie, or a mudslime (especially in the case of european creationists) popping in thinking that they are in good company.
>>68125567
Also the worse part is that humanity has been facing this shit before. When the oil industry backed scientist that basically lie about lead and how there were "natural" level of lead. It took like 50 years for the fucking industry to stop spreading lies and basically accept that they couldn't continue to profit at the expense of the health of the people in the world.
30 years later we are still fighting the same fucking battles because there are still retards in the world that don't know shit about science and want to make a buck quickly regardless of the cost to other's people health or the environment.
>>68125443
I dont have anything against religous people, I can see the positive effects it can have.... but god damn they should realise that it´s just faith not fact.
Christfags are the same type of retards as are muslifags.... they also remind of transgendered people.
>I think I´m female SO I´M FEMALE CAUSE I THINK SO!!!
>>68125718
I'll offer you one disproof of your silly b8:
Satellite's trajectories would not have worked if the theory of gravity were not correct.
This is unequivocal evidence for the theory of gravity.
>>68125122
Science is based on observation and changes acording to it
Faith is the ignoring of observation
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxu7NEoKC8
Vid related.
Anyway have you faggots ever taken a bio class in your life? Fuck me, you're just like those stereotypes about Bible thumping americans.
No wonder people hate /pol/, SJW tier religious fags shit it up for everybody
>>68125717
HOLY SHIT, I actually thought you could figure out how density works for yourself, but turns out you cant and have to ask me?
Fuck you really are way stupider than I though finbro.
I wont address your question because I cant be fucking arsed to write an essay on how density works and how AIR works and WATER. Things denser than water sink, things less dense than air go up. Fuck its really simple if you still dont understand then I will ignore your next posts.
>>68125995
You can't even wrap your head around evolution you dipshit
>>68120711
Success in evolutionary terms means being able to reproduce. So yes modern birds are more successful than ancient dinosaurs.
i know the thing that can fix this
we make our religion about the God Emperor.
way better God than Yahweh.
>>68125225
Good. Because anyone who believes that nothing turned into something and was spinning so fast it exploded and completely defied the conservation of angular momentum law is scientific "fact" needs to be put in a mental institution.
>>68125939
>pseudo science
Lets start with an assumption: Gravity is real!
Ok now lets prove it: Well other objects dont pull to eachother, but we will just ignore that proof because it doesnt fit in with my assumption.
Ok now lets look at sattelites, oh yes this fits in with my assumption great this is proof. Listen everyone I just proved gravity.
Sweedish schools will not teach because its intolerant and racist to sharia law
>>68126147
more strawmanning
prove that tiny objects don't attract eachother
>>68118406
>>68125727
it seems like burgers got owned by a dutchfag
>>68125995
>and how AIR works and WATER.
The question is about vacuum numnuts. No air or water involved, just two objects, with the same mass, but different density.
Why do they fall down at the same rate, if (according to you), it is density that causes objects to fall down?
Come on, little muzzie, try to come up with an answer.
>>68125984
Ahahahahah faggot is this really your argument? I just looked at my arms and I have it on both sides, wow you realy really really are retarded, and I was just joking around when I called you that.
