http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/18/ron-paul-i-couldnt-support-donald-trump-nominee/
Oh Ronnie...
>>68092029
Why not? They both are fucking retarded
Ron "open borders is libertarian" Paul
>>68092029
I always knew that he was a cuck. I just didn't want to believe it.
>>68092228
Dude you lose the right to call people cucks when you post little anime girl reaction pictures.
You're kind of pathetic
>>68092340
I'm sorry but you are going to have to go back to the site that you came from.
>>68092340
>insulting animu on an animu website
Go back to special education.
>>68092029
Hide the ropes and the sharp objects, it's a real suicide watch this time. This is not a drill. I repeat this is not a drill.
>>68092597
>>68092644
This is a trump website now.
We're clearing out you filthy faggots
>>68092794
>he doesn't know that trump will make anime real
>>68092644
>founded on anime doesn't = anime website
>thinks policially incorrect = anime
>tfw weebfags literally cannot defend their failed logic
>tfw but mad webs will open my pic related
>>68092029
This fagbag had his chance.
>>68092597
stfu weeb, you're probably one of those bronie faggots
>>68092029
He's probably one of those people that refuse to endorse the lesser evil.
But he must be well aware that Hillary and Cruz are much worse.
As long as he doesn't endorse anyone else or attacks Trump too much he is still based.
>>68092340
Fake and cay.
This shouldn't surprise anyone who knows Ron Paul. Trump isn't conservative.
>>68093122
>>68093101
i can agree with both of these
>>68092340
>Complaining about anime on a Bosnian horoscope site
>>68093122
>he is still based
All he does is lose and become more and more senile.
I guess if thats "based"
No one cares what you think Ron. You fucking lost and let us all down.
Go support cucks elsewhere.
>>68093101
take a chill pill
>>68092029
He's right though. I'm not saying Cruz is perfect, but he is much better for libertarianism and constitutionalism than Trump.
The memes aren't as dank, but I remain a CruzMissile.
>>68093418
Yea let's support the guy who literally has to force himself on his daughter to kiss her on the cheek
Based Ron.
we could have stopped it.
>>68092029
>wants to prevent happenings
>refusing to back the biggest anti-globalist candidate in forever
>>68092029
>>68092228
>>68092774
>>68093033
>>68093122
>>68093300
>>68093418
establishment candidate:
trump--->debbie dooley--->tea party--->freedomworks--->koch brothers
>>68093547
The man cant even close an automatically closing minivan car door
Who thought he could fix our shitshow country anyway
>>68092029
>manlet doesn't support tall guy
I call jealousy
>>68093646
wtf you talking about?
>>68092029
So its Hillary then? I don't get why he would say this
>>68093517
>memes
Kids get into bad moods some time.
>>68092944
/new/ and by extension /pol/ was created so that anime connoisseurs could discuss anime, politics, news, cute girls, and world events. You filthy secondaries are the equivalent of rapefugees at the moment.
>>68093775
OW OW OW
>>68093779
thats not true newfaggot
>>68092150
Does he really think thats a good idea?
Glad i never trusted this faggot
>>68093816
Did Cruz ever say he wants to date his daughter like your Fuhrer? Odd how you cast Cruz as a creeper yet your own messiah is way more creepy.
>>68093700
Well it makes sense , Ron and Trump only share few viewpoints common. Ron Paul isn't the type of person to sell out his ideology for Trump , and he doesn't want to hurt Rand's feelings. Maybe Ron can see through Trump's bullshit, but still Ron had his chance.
Ron Paul is a miles smarter when it comes to politics than Trump, he deserved to be the president.
>>68092029
He didn't support Romney or McCain either. Ron is a bitter old cunt, and his son isn't much better.
>>68094038
I'm not really a libertarian myself, so I cant fully agree that he is smarter than Trump.
>>68094017
No "OW OW OW" is worse.
I only started listening to media on the primary in January.
For that month I was pretty much in agreement with traditional conservatives like RP.
But now seeing how the rhetoric and interparty conflicts have gotten more extreme...
I think I'll vote for Trump if he's the GOP nominee or even a third-party candidate.
>>68092029
Ron used to give speeches full of knowledge and insight.
Trump is a carnival barker compared to Ron
>muh wall
>muh mexico
>we're gonna win!
>childish insults
>make america great again
>muh chynuh
>muh mooselims
The American people get what they deserve when they elect this clown. Only a totally degenerate, lost society would let a demagogue like Trump get so close to the white house.
>>68092029
He's not gonna support Cruz either...
>>68094038
yea, it makes me sad to think that ron paul was our only shot.
i just watched a trump speech for the first time, about 10 mins ago, and i wanted to die. his supporters seem so fucking brain-dead. all he had to say was something about building the wall and people started chanting "USA USA". Then he started talking about making an even bigger military.. like we need even more taxes for that. not to mention he's going to socialize medicine, but do it better than obama, supposedly.
ron paul seemed to be the only one that knew why our country/econmy was fucked up. i want to believe trump knows why too, but he never seems to touch on that issue, other than to say he'll make it better with no real explanation.
Coz Ron Paul is a grownup who wants freedom and a mentally stable president.
>>68094171
>>68094171
I want Trump to win the nomination , but you can't say that Trump is smarter than Ron Paul. Trump didn't even know what a nuclear triad was . Trump doesn't fully respect liberty , which kinda worries me and he seems to be uneducated in the field of politics. I feel like if Trump got experience as a governor , than he would be perfect as a president because he would have political experience.
>>68094438
I really wish Canadians and Australians get banned from this website
>>68094549
He's right though.
>>68094438
yes, i fucking hate my country.
missed opportunity.
>>68094502
Why the fuck are you even weighing in on this?
You don't even live here. Seriously just can it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esp-ruhkZqQ
I'm not a fan of this "open borders" libertarian meme. Sorry.
>>68094622
I live in Oregon bud , visiting my parents in Canada.
Ron Paul >>>>>> Trump
>>68094622
This is why I hate Canadian posters
>implying ron paul isn't controlled opposition
>>68094502
You cant be an expert in everything, you just need to be good at hiring people who you can trust and who can do the job well.
I dont think anybody is better than Trump at this.
also, Trump seems to have a skill which most politicians lack, common sense
>>68094875
>someone criticizes Trump
>don't say anything to refute his points
>fucking Canadians are the worst
>>68092029
ron paun was the real solution
trump = shillary winning
shillary wil rape the planet
>>68095012
>he hasn't realized most of the trump supporters are teenage boys sticking it to the SJW for the lulz XD
>>68095120
also trump is retarded and he will not win
next time you want to takeover like that dont be an open retard
This is emotional propaganda, and i don't care:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
i cry every time.
>>68092029
>Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul said Friday he couldn’t support GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump if Mr. Trump wins the party’s nomination, saying Mr. Trump’s views on the scope of executive authority could surpass those of President Obama.
>“No, I couldn’t do that,” Mr. Paul said on Fox Business Network when asked if he would support Mr. Trump, should the billionaire businessman win the GOP nomination. “He’s [the] opposite of a libertarian.”
He's absolutely correct and he's stuck to his principles.
I voted for him before and would again.
>>68095120
>>68095192
you should get a proxy.. your posts are literally making me laugh
>>68095192
>Mexican intellectuals
Ron Paul taught me that the only anti-establishment candidate that has a chance in the future is one that can control the media, and then came Trump a few years later, so he's the guy.
Sorry Ron, but guys like you will never EVER be elected unless someone like Trump comes in to blaze a trail.
Join or die.
>>68095223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJH55W4TeE0
>>68092340
>Dude you lose the right to call people cucks when you post little anime girl reaction pictures.
>You're kind of pathetic
says the guy on a chinese cartoon image posting board.
>>68095307
>Ron Paul taught me that the only anti-establishment candidate that has a chance in the future is one that can control the media
the fact that this is true says a lot about the intelligence of the average american.
>>68094993
That approach carries the risk of letting your underlings actually make the decisions. If all you do is read reports from them and make your final decisions based on that info, then they can write them in a manner that promotes their agenda.
>>68095610
I've already said he has common sense. And many people who know him well claim he is very intelligent, whcih is plausible, since I've never seen someoen play the media the way he does. You just cant be stupid and pull things like that off..
>>68095768
ever stop and think the media realizes they are despised and know they are promoting Trump in a backhanded way?
>>68095307
>>68095607
it makes me sad to finally realize that /pol/ never actually cared about individual freedom or small government, just about being anti-establishment. Apparently anyone anti-establishment will do, and you'll be on to cheering on some other asshole in four years just because someone else doesn't like him.
>>68095607
Ron Paul got blackballed by the media and got 0 coverage so nobody even knew he existed outside his base.
It has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with the Jewish media.
>>68095965
You can't have any of those things unless you break the back of the established order, because they're the ones that impose larger government and steal your freedoms.
>>68095893
no, that's just too far fetched. I've watched Fox and some CNN episodes, the hate for Trump is real.
>>68092029
Libertarianism is still the only real solution to the world. We're all just drunk on memes at the moment. Libertarianism is something that only makes sense when you think about it. Nobody thinks anymore, we just react (I am including myself).
We are in a Dionysian phase of history. It will end with a massacre.
Trumpfags: Don't call it a grave. It's the future you chose.
>>68095965
>realize that /pol/ never actually cared about individual freedom or small government, just about being anti-establishment.
Maybe you'll finally realize that /pol/ isn't one person. There are anarchists, extreme authoritarians, and everyone in between. Trump is popular with /pol/ moderates because he is memeworthy and entertaining, but few of his supporters have a thorough grasp (right or wrong) of economics or political philosophy. If you're looking for true ideologues, /pol/ is no different from the real world; they are a fringe minority.
>>68095893
They aren't self aware, and if they are they don't have any other ideas for how to push their propaganda.
>>68096361
Don't worry, leaf, your fearless leader will be taking all our illegals once we threaten to kick them out.
>>68096361
what else can they choose??
Communist man?
Lying Ted?
Lying evil bitch?
Lying Sorros puppet?
>>68092029
ron paul made zero, zero progress towards becoming president; at least trump has a chance ... well, except that the game is rigged
>>68096287
>Ron Paul got blackballed by the media and got 0 coverage so nobody even knew he existed outside his base.
while he wasn't treated fairly, he didn't get 0 coverage. he got enough so i heard about him and became a supporter. my grandmother became a fan of his and all she watches are mainstream news outlets, she's not connected to the internet at all.
his ideas were out there, people only had to listen.
>tfw ron paul recently cucked for islam and declared islam isn't inherently violent or anti-infidel and the quran teaches peace
>>68096470
they were supposed to have given a fuck in 2008/2012 and voted for paul, but i guess paul didn't talk enough about MUHWALL.
>>68096456
mm. fair enough then. easy to forget, I suppose.
>>68094438
The worst fucking thing is the Republican Party really could have mobilized behind Ron Paul back in 2012 but threw him under the bus. Where was the hate and anger back then? Now we're supposed to settle for sloppy, demagogic seconds with a man who has an even smaller chance of winning the election.
>>68092029
>His the opposite of liberal
Well no shit but I respect his opinion Ron is a liberal but he is a sane one compared to all this mentally ill liberals running around.
>>68093122
this gives me the yuugest freedom boner
>>68093191
NEITHER IS PAUL, BUT STILL, ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY AGREED WITH PAUL ON HIS POLICIES COULD never agree with trump.
(left caps on by mistake)
>>68096675
the memes back in 2008/2012 werent strong enough. Too bad his son is such a failure though.
We should respect his opinion instead of insulting him, im still his fan !Altho trump is what america needs now
>>68092029
>>68092228
Old /pol/: Libertarianism, politically incorrect ideas, Ron Paul, free speech, genuine political activism
New /pol/: Authoritarianism, words that trigger, weeb shit, Donald Trump, stormfags, country flags, neckbeards, reddit
>>68096305
Libertarianism is a meme ideology that will never be taken seriously.
>>68097003
Except none of that is true.
>>68097003
well the weeb shit was always here, anon
>>68097003
old pol is still alive though.. on double chan. you can leave whenever you want..
>>68092150
Many libertarians believe this cause letting the market work at it's top level of efficiency means not artificially stopping the natural flow of workers. Illegals are mainly bad because they fuck up the economy. They fuck up the economy because they leach programs while at the same time not paying taxes. In Ron's perfect America you got no programs to leech and no income tax. Many things that are currently problems are only problems because of problems that are already around you see.
>>68097003
This undercurrent was there during old /pol/ you're just kidding yourself.
>>68092029
#based
Ron Paul telling it like it is.
>>68097003
"Authoritarian" is not an insult.
>>68092150
He's specifically stated he's not OK with that when you have a welfare state.
>>68097128
>In Ron's perfect America you got no programs to leech and no income tax
no borders, and no nation too.
>>68092029
>Ron Paulberg defending the same establishment that fucked him over and pretended like he didn't even exist
For shame...
>>68097003
/pol/ has turned into right wing SJWs. Anyone or anything that offends them on social media, they will find out who it is and dox them or try to get them fired or in trouble.
>B-b-but my cause is genuine! What I'm doing really is making the world a better place!
I miss old /pol/ where we would just watch niggers chimpout with hot cocoa.
So does this mean that Ron is establishment? Does this guy not realize that the establishment has repeated cucked him out of the nominee? Why would he at this point defend the establishment?
>>68097236
upboat
>>68092228
>anyone who doesn't gargle Trump's balls is a cuck
>talking shit about the most patriotic man in America
This board has really gone to shit
>>68097284
Nigger what? He just isn't endorsing anyone because they're all shitty. Same reason why I'm a registered R but I'm not voting. I've got better shit to do with my life than pick who will fuck me over the hardest.
I get the Trump appeal but I've read his policies and can't get behind him.
>>68097047
>Libertarianism is a meme ideology
Not really. Libertarianism exists to some extent everywhere. It is simply what exists by default in the spaces where busybodies are not currently staking out power.
No country ever collapsed by caring too much about small government. Disasters are always accompanied by government expanding.
>>68097003
/pol/ went to shit after reddit got rid of all their racist subreddits. All the little reddit shits came flooding in expecting everything to be just like their old home boards (no anime , irresponsible meme-ing, etc). There is not turning back though. Might as well get used to it.
>>68097243
yhea.... no
>>68097452
Posters that b have settled on fascism over liberty.
>>68097604
Flood a county with foreigners and eventually your country won't exist anymore. Sorry but then libertarian solution to immigration just doesn't work. Stop trying defend it.
>>68093418
The guy who supports BLM rioters instead of a fellow Republican? No thanks.
>>68097825
>Flood a county with foreigners and eventually your country won't exist anymore.
But why would there be a flood, with no welfare state to flood to? There wouldn't be. People would stay where they are unless they have a plan for how moving could help them.
>muh /pol/ has changed!
>we was libertarians n sheeit!
Did you niggers miss out on the 24/7 Hitler worship threads back then or what?
Everyone loves Ron Paul, but don't pretend like /pol/ hasn't been looking for a nationalist strongman who speaks in memes since the board opened.
If you can't see the writing on the wall that this is our last chance to get immigration under control, and kill the TPP that will turn half the world into an even shittier version of the EU, while bringing back jobs to keep the country from turning into a 3rd world, then you are just retarded.
You can fight for liberty and small government once we keep the country from dropping dead.
Whenever immigration is at the forefront of the voters minds' libertarians will lose. Ron Paul was popular because of the war and government spending. Immigration was not the key issue. Now it is. Trump beats the crap out of Ron Paul on all the issues. Suck it.
>>68097199
It fuckin should be.
>>68097825
U.S.A is nothing but foreigners and we seem to be doing well so far.
>>68097917
>What are jobs?
>>68092029
I don't blame you pa' these fuckers will awaken the hard way.
>>68097084
Except ever bit of it was true.
>lolbertarians
>muh "freedom"(tm)(c)(r)
>>68098026
Yeah, jobs. Do you get the impression that the immigrants who cause problems have jobs? I don't.
>>68094017
have you ever said something as a joke before you fucking autistic leaf?
>>68097918
Fucking this. Tired of the constant "HURR DURR THIS BOARD USED TO LIBERTARIAN NOW IT'S SHIT"
There was a minority of libertarians of different stripes, but there was always a stronger presence of NatSoc posters
>>68097801
what then shall we do?
>>68098005
Everything went to shit once we started importing third worlders during the 60s. This is a fact. Stop conflating white European immigration with non-European immigration.
>>68098001
>implying authority is undesirable
>>68097468
It's called strategic voting. You're not picking who will fuck you over the hardest. You're picking who will fuck you over the least. I'd pick Trump over Bernie or Hillary any day.
>>68098142
Whatever you want.
>>68098001
>S-STATIST B-B-B-B-BOOTLICKER
>AUTHORITARIANS PLEASE LEAVE
Get fucked, pseudo-anarchist scum.
>>68098081
Who cares if they are causing trouble or not? Those jobs should go to natives.
>>68097236
>when you have a welfare state
but otherwise it's fine...
>>68098325
Well I just disagree with you there. Especially in the west, where 90% of the problem is that the natives are so degenerate. Hard work is the ultimate redpill. It rewires your brain to not be a flake.
>>68098081
Illegal spicks manage to fuck up our economy while simultaneously holding jobs.
Maybe Ron Paul would have been more successful if he actually gave a shit about the common american man like Trump seems to. Paul only cared about abstract ideals that don't fucking exist except in the minds of autists.
>>68098554
hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. You're fucking dumb
>>68092029
Paul is still upset that Trump bullied his son on stage and Rand left with virtually no delegates. Rand was left pleading for donations on instagram and dropped out due to not having any funds.
>>68098249
See that's what makes me so sour about this whole deal. Why do we vote against people, speak against people, act against people, instead of acting FOR a cause? Is it because we have a two party system or have things been so shitty for so long we don't know it any other way?
For the record I don't think Trump is any better than Hillary except on foreign relations and the leftist tears he causes are great.
If I make the time to vote this November I'll be voting for Gary Johnson. Rand Paul got a vote from me in the Texas primary.
Also fuck el rato.
Thankfully Ron paul is for closed borders, but it seems like every goddamn libertarian otherwise supports open borders. That's why I'm not one to align with them anymore.
>>68098554
>Trump cares about the common american
You're really going full retard with that one.
>/pol/ has changed
In the 2012 /pol/ Senate threads, the seats were pretty evenly divided between Nazis and Libertarians, with a significant minority of Paleocons and then like two or three mainstream Dems/Reps each, that lone Green nutjob, and one singular Monarchist.
>>68092029
Ron Paul is an idiot. I know that /pol/ used to idolize him as the Messiah, but libertarianism is a very impractical and outdated ideology that only old people and edge lords actually take seriously. This idiot thinks that bringing back the gold standard would be a good thing, and that speaks for itself
>>68098676
It's a question of order of events. Most libertarians won't support open borders unless the welfare state is demolished first. Since that seems impossible at this stage, it isn't relevant yet.
>>68098433
This shit is why no one in the right likes you guys anymore. We don't enjoy getting replaced in our own countries. Not everyone has an economic cuckold fetish.
>>68098750
Only a retard would say such a thing and not give issues.
>>68098771
Minorities and immigration to America have existed long before welfare. No idea where libertarians are getting this shit but it is extremely incorrect.
Who could think for a second that Donald Trump is on their side. Have you heard of Donald Trump before? He's a TV personality who has nothing better to do than talk to Meatloaf.
>>68098789
>We don't enjoy getting replaced in our own countries. Not everyone has an economic cuckold fetish.
Why would you be replaced? Foreigners aren't supermen. You would be replaced to exactly the extent that you're a bunch of cucks. Except you'd have the inherent advantage of cultural assimilation. Chemotherapy.
>>68098133
you mean stormtards
>>68098771
Doesn't matter. Open borders/no nations is a ploy to develop larger populations of cheaper labor to make more of a profit at the cost of one's citizens. It ain't just "Dey turk ur jerb" rednecks but now white collars who are getting a taste of what they mocked others for with Indians and Asians being shipped in to work for cheaper than locals.
Open borders would lead to a dystopian hell full of sectarianism, ethnic cleansing and suffering with increased polarity between the richest rich and the rest of us the likes of which we've never seen before.
>>68093122
Cruz is run-of-the-mill offputting. Trump is fantastically unqualified to do much more pretend to be a businessman on TV.
>>68098924
Sorry kiwi friend. You're making logical points and they're being drowned out by the echo chamber.
>>68092029
True auth. Damn... spilled my milkshake when I read that.
>>68098001
Authoritarians all think they'll be the ones wearing the boot and calling the shots. They wouldn't want to live in a left wing SJW authoritarian society but according to their logic such a place wouldn't be that bad.
>>68097199
Yes it is. You think authoritarianism made America great?
Think again, cuck
>>68098625
>>68098715
Not arguments.
It's a shame homo economicus doesn't exist. Otherwise Ron Paul totally would have won. But instead these morons fall prey to men like Trump who promise to let them keep their totally arbitrary borders and nation.
>>68099284
America was built on tyranny. Just look up the whiskey rebellion.
>>68099050
>>68092029
>It's a Ron Paul thinks he's relevant episode
>>68099336
Ron Paul was the man that tried to restore power to the people, but you fuckers were too ignorant to recognize it.
>>68093418
>North American Union
No
>>68097003
/pol/ was more racist and had more natsocs five years ago than today, faggot
>>68098325
Read Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. Protectionism makes us all poorer. This is literally 200+ years of basic economic principal. It's as if Americans have no understanding of the principals upon which their country was founded and as a foreigner looking in from the outside, it's extremely troubling to see how you all managed to squander the greatest achievement in Mankind's history.
>>68099255
This. /pol/ is a very diverse group but these weebs who sit around and post on a tibetan sweater sewing site non-stop about Trump make me very confused. I respect the posters who support the guy that claim to be tradesmen and such, but the anime MAGA posts are beyond me.
>>68094438
Ron wasn't a populist, Trump is.
Ron probably would have done better as a populist libertarian.
I'm still holding out for a Paul vp is Ross Perot steps down
>>68098938
yes, people who had been here longer than libertarian rebbitors who claimed that muh stormfags were invading
>>68099375
A whiskey tax is not tyranny you idiot. Also, the free people of the United States managed to remove the tax through democratic means.
If you like authoritarianism so much, why don't you root for the SJW's? They want to decide everything for you.
>>68099597
America has always been protectionist though. I don't think you or most people promoting free trade as the supposed status quo know much about american economic history.
>>68092029
Of course he can't support Trump!
His son is running against him.
>>68094502
The triad is a defunct term anyway.
It's bomber, SLBM, ICBM, TLAM-N, tac nukes now
>>68099597
our government actually incentivizes manufacturers to outsource, and a free market nation (which we are not, but more than most countries) cannot have free trade with a closed, authoritarian, communist state which uses state-run firms and slave labor.
We play by the rules of free trade, and they don't. That leads to us getting ripped off. Some kind of policy has to address this distortion.
>>68099737
>America has always been protectionist though.
You can be more or less protectionist, just like you can be more or less in need of a bath.
>>68096470
>lying evil bitch
slandering the queen is a class A felony faggot
>>68099479
So he wanted to give power to people who are too stupid to know what to do with it?
If only there were some responsible... authority that could wield power, instead of the ignorant masses or the evil classes.
>>68099846
>That leads to us getting ripped off
No, it doesn't.
If someone is selling something subsidized, at below cost, I'll tell you how to get rich:
Buy it
>>68099955
Welcome to America; the place where democracy decides; don't like it? Go home.
>>68097236
>let's cut social safety nets to justify bringing in high crime low iq brown people to drive down wages and drive up violence! :)
>>68099737
If you look into it, there have been lots of disputes between economic protectionism and free trade. Particularly between 1790 and 1860. Actual free trade died after the civil war.
>>68099846
furthermore, maintaining a modicum of industrial capacity is a national-security requirement
>>68096675
I supported Paul in the primaries of '08 and '12, and I voted for Bob Barr in '08. I wouldn't vote for Gary Johnson because he backed gay marriage, so I just stayed home in '12 once Ron lost.
>>68099966
>muh low prices
No one cares. That line doesn't work anymore. We are more concerned with jobs nowadays.
>>68099748
Ron Paul would rather support a "detroit republican." Whatever the fuck that is
>>68100109
You want work, you can do it for free.
What I want is production. And other people are doing it a lot cheaper.
>>68100112
Black. He means a black republican. He might really be a cuck.
>>68099846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urSe86zpLI4
If a foreign country's government is subsidizing their industries to make them more attractive to buyers, they're essentially chipping in a part of the cost for you. You're getting that product at a discounted price, you and your country benefits while the other country suffers for paying for you to buy their products.
>>68099966
>If someone is selling something subsidized, at below cost, I'll tell you how to get rich:
>Buy it
Why hasn't that worked for the past 16 years? Could it be because selling at a loss is a justifiable strategy to secure a monopoly, at which point prices can gradually be raised?
>>68100084
>I wouldn't vote for Gary Johnson because he backed gay marriage, so I just stayed home in '12 once Ron lost.
The government shouldn't be in the business of regulating marriage in the first place. None of your, or the state's, concern if fags want to marry.
>>68100030
Right. And who's winning?
>but democracy can only decide things I agree with! otherwise it's demagoguery!
>>68100185
Because slave labour. Build i-phone or get shot. That's not the free market, asshat
>>68100206
It's worked great, and there's no monopolies that've been formed by free trade.
>>68092029
He also couldn't get three bills passed in the House in thirty years or prevent his demented followers from jumping on the Bernie bandwagon.
>>68100267
That seems to be your version of democracy, not mine. I've put up with these fakes in office for so long. Now you will too.
>>68092029
Paul is correct. I think Trump will further destroy the power of the constitution to fit his "God-Emperor" meme image. He will not reduce the size of federal government nor remove any of Obama's executive orders.
>>68100276
Nah, people are leaving their parents' farms in China to work in better conditions.
Nobody's being shot because they didn't make an iphone.
>>68100214
Actually, it is. Degeneracy is a social disease, and one of the many issues that lolbertarians have no answer for
>>68100337
God forbid someone use the power of the state for us instead of against us. That's, like, fascism.
>>68100414
>that image
Wow so much for the NAP.
>>68100313
American manufacturing has been destroyed. Chinese state-owned firms now have a near-monopoly on many sectors of industrial production. Regardless of income, GDP-growth, or export-surpluses, that is a strategic lever which they now possess, and which can be used to influence and control other nations.
This is not the result of free trade, but the result of free trade with a communist slave-state
>>68100414
So gay people living together loosely is less degenerate than two gay people having a mortgage and a dog and social security?
>>68100276
Yeah it's not.
The free market is as follows
>produce products that last just long enough to make millions of people buy them, but fail just in time to make them buy the new version
>consumers are too dumb to realize they're getting screwed
>keep getting rich
If Americans really cared about American jobs they'd vote with their dollar not at the ballot.
Instead they'd rather watch a plethora of assholes claim they have Americans' best interest in mind on their foreign made televisions.
>>68100337
Congress is the only thing that can Stop the executive. Trump will mobilize Congress against him and get them to hit the executive branch.
>>68100497
Because the NAP is for weak pseudo-intellectuals. The second your opponents decide that aggression is justified, you're fucked. Strict Social Libertarianism is as doomed to failure as any form of Anarchism or Communism, because it fails to understand human nature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9NjRnA0wU8
>>68100530
American manufacturing was built and re-built in short order in the past. We're fine.
And again, China is just building the factories - people commute of their own volition.
>>68100495
No, no. St. Ron says we should always sit in the House being a useless tit for 30 years rather than ever employ the coercive power of the state. (Except to coerce a billion dollars in pork to his district, natch)
>>68100723
How does that change anything?
>>68092029
Ron Paul is a has-meme
no one cares
>>68100557
They shouldn't be in this country at all. If we lack the political willpower to expel them, then the less social damage they cause the better. No marriage. No adoption. No teaching.
>>68100597
>If Americans really cared about American jobs they'd vote with their dollar not at the ballot.
And how do you do that, exactly? There are a great many products for which no Made in America alternative exists. What cellphone is Made in America? I drive an "American" car made out of Chinese components assembled in the US. Show me a more American alternative than that, because I haven't seen any
Or should I just refuse to buy any car or cellphone until an American-made alternative is provided?
>>68100495
>God forbid someone use the power of the state for us instead of against us. That's, like, fascism.
He shouldn't because the state is far too powerful already. He's using power that he should not have, indeed that nobody should have.
>>68100800
What are they going to threaten us with? Give us Taiwan or you'll have to get off the couch?
>>68092340
Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>68100901
Don't you ever go deciding shit like that for my country you snake venom consortium.
>>68100530
America manufactures trillions of dollars of goods, for both domestic consumption and export. What that manufacturing doesn't do is a.) occupy a large chunk of GDP, or b.) employ a lot of people.
>>68100909
Gay people live everywhere. They're more common than sinistrous handwriters.
>>68098789
Ignore him, one or two shitposters/muslims joined /pol/ about a month ago, I'd have him deported if I could.
>>68097917
The first answer that comes to mind would be crime.
Borders will then have to be implemented naturally as a consequence and the need to protect your property. Back to square one.
I'd say libertarians are as naive and out of touch with reality as are the liberal internationalists. Just in a different way.
>>68093122
He is implying that he likes bernie sanders
ron paul is kill
>>68100909
Comparative advantage, anon. If cars and phones aren't made in America, it's because other countries can do those jobs better and cheaper than we can. So what? Trade with them for something that we do better than they do.
>>68094950
We that doesn't make any sense because Alex jones is on the trump train
>>68100950
Let me put it this way: Ron Paul is Thomas Jefferson and Donald Trump is Andrew Jackson. The latter might not be as intellectual or ideologically pure as the former, but he's still a hell of a lot better than the alternative, and even if all he does is fuck shit up, he has identified the right shit to fuck up.
He wants to audit the fed, like Paul. He wants to cut taxes and reduce or remove many federal agencies, like Paul. He wants to secure the border, as, IIRC, Ron Paul did in the past. He wants to reduce our presence overseas, as Paul did in his campaigns.
Does he go as far as Ron Paul in those areas? Maybe not, but he's also more likely to achieve all of those goals. The best case scenario for Ron Paul was, even if he somehow got into the White House by some miracle, 4 years of vetoing everything that hit his desk.
We're living in a time when a true Fascist like Hillary Clinton, and an open Communist like Bernie Sanders, are both considered viable and respectable candidates for the Presidency. When negroid and communist thugs are engaging in political violence the likes of which we have not seen since the '60s, and which harkens to the '20s. We're dealing with a Democrat party whose head, Obama, declared US Constitutionalists a bigger threat to America than Muslim Terrorists.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
>>68100495
>God forbid someone use the power of the state for us instead of against us. That's, like, fascism.
The federal government isn't supposed to be powerful. The states need to be more powerful and the federal government needs to be weakened so our constitution and bill of rights can remain intact. I don't believe Trump will restore the constitutional republic. He will only expand and increase the power of the federal government... which I might add is currently running away with power and further increasing the debt.
>>68101229
>muh global free trade
I don't give a shit about those other countries, I care about OUR country.
America is able to produce absolutely more for ourselves, and everyone else can get fucked.
>>68092644
>knowingly equate anime with gayness
>also pretends to know what's best for a nation and government and its citizens
>>68101482
>muh Articles of Confederation
>the states should be more powerful than the nation
Nice way to render America ineffective, jackass.
>>68101385
It's like they would rather be mugged than have a "statist fascist police officer" protect them.
>>68092029
I hope you shills truly end up in a hell I didn't believe existed.
>>68101592
The centralization is too prone to corruption.
>>68093122
Trump and hillary are exactly the same
>>68101482
That America failed during the civil war. New America is all about federal supremacy and it has lasted a lot longer.
>>68093300
He lost because the media is an arm of the oligarchy. He got zero publicity.
But Trump's getting publicity. He's clearly playing the game
>>68101738
And decentralization is prone to ineffectiveness or stagnation. Without a central authority to unite, direct, and protect America, we are no better than 50 individual nations part of a rather constrictive trade treaty.
>>68101744
Prove it
>inb4 your response is pic related
>>68101865
He still would have lost in the general. Libertarian ideas have no mainstream appeal because they are so dated.
>>68101738
Well tough shit it already happened. Now are you going to support the guys who want to turn America into Brazil/Somalia and start WW3, or are you going to support Trump?
>>68092029
Ron Paul is right like always. Not to mention Trump is just another Israeli puppet like the rest of them. Don't be fooled he's in bed with Jews, and not to mention his daughter converted to Judaism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lv-r_XQK4M
>>68093122
He might also be a bit pissed about how trump treated his little randy. I agree if he doesn't endorse anybody else he's still alright in my book
>>68095965
Wow a board called Politically Incorrect is mainly anti-establishment.
Wow a board which preached National Socialism and is not libertarian.
>>68092029
ITS HAPPENING >>68101880
>>68093851
Literally the first board was /a/
>>68101738
I agree with decentralization, and I think Trump does too. He wants to end CommonCore, for example. Right now the Federal Government has so much power it would take decades of roll-back to get it to a reasonable state.
As far as foreign policy goes, giving up an Empire is even harder than conquering one, and can't be done over night. I would like to see law-enforcement decentralized, and self-defense legalized unequivocally, but the military can't just be dissolved overnight. We gave up on that kind of isolationism a hundred years ago, when we supplanted the old European Imperial order.
Trump's goal, of making the business of securing global security less of a charity, and getting some of our dickless allies like NATO and Japan/South Korea on their feet and capable of defending themselves before pulling back and leaving them to the wolves/chinese/muslims is, I think, the most prudent course, and the course which is most in our national interests.
>>68102087
He must be a really shitty minion. Is that why every Jew in the world hates him?
>>68101948
>Trump is for Expanding the NSA
So is Clinton.
>Trump is for renewing the Patriot Act
So is Clinton.
>Trump is for Citizens United
So is Clinton.
>Trump is for leaving the Fed alone
So is Clinton.
>Trump is for expanding, not reduce the black hole of a "Defense" budget
So is Clinton.
>Trump is for trade deals that destroy American jobs
So is Clinton.
Gee, it's almost like I have a function brain and used it.
>>68092029
smart man
>>68092340
This guy has a point even if you adult virgins don't want to acknowledge it.
>>68097917
>>68097604
>illegals will magically stop entering USA if welfare was ended.
>>68101998
you're totally right, the third largest political party in America doesn't appeal to anyone.
>>68092794
Drumpf is an asshole he doesn't get boards. Stick your generals.
>>68097128
because people that have been dependent on welfare for so long are just gonna change their attitudes and start working. yeah right lol
violent crime will see a huge spike and there won't be enough police to deal with it coz MUH TAXES ARE EVIL
>>68097003
You're right but we literally always had the weebshit
You're forgetting that Ron was gonna make anime real
>>68102152
> Wow a board which preached National Socialism and is not libertarian.
National socialism is the ulmate in political correctness. What world do you live in where conservative authoritarianism is freedom?
>>68094438
didn't you faggots let a commie in charge?
>>68102512
To be fair, that's not saying much.
Hope they get that 5% this election.
>>68101536
America can produce loads of goods that the global economy wants. Particularly food in the Mississippi River delta and the Midwest. America out produces any other country in livestock feed, corn, wheat, and a few boutique crops that are grown in California. We produce coal and oil at an amazing rate. We also build weapons at an exceptionally large rate.
So let us rule trade in those fields.
Wanting slave-labor tier products at an artisan rate would push American consumers far backwards. We should specialize in what we are good at, and let foreign countries mass produce what they're good at. If you think America could produce a majority of goods at home you're either stupid or delusional.
>>68092340
Nigger
>>68102498
They won't be a burden though.... until they vote welfare back into existence in the next election.
