Why are you not pro-choice /pol/?
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Why are you not pro-choice /pol/?
>>68065089
Except the white part is not her body, that is a completely distinct body.
>>68065453
STFU it's keeping the black population from going out of control.
>>68065453
She gives the resources to it, she can decide whether or not she wants it.
My sperm, my decision.
>>68065736
Nigga i give niggers resources to live and drug themselves last year i paid 60k in taxes fuck them
>>68065908
And if the pregnancy amuses life threatening complications for the mother? Serves her right for letting you knock her up?
>>68065736
so when i give my resources to a girl and she ends up pregnant i get to decide wether i want it or not?
>>68065736
She can. But whether that is morally correct is subjective.
>>68066025
In the case of the mentally disabled and life threatening situations, it is alright.
>>68065089
But I am. Abortion is the greatest killer of dindus in America.
To be anti-abortion is to be anti-white
I think abortion after 5 months should be illegal.
>>68066007
Then deport them
>>68066045
Yes, that would be ideal
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kultur/tro/skal-maend-have-ret-til-juridisk-abort-filosoffer-og-teologer-giver-deres-bud
>>68066305
It is
>>68065089
I'm actually in favour of abortion. I however disagree in that it's not murder. I'd say that the moment you consciously end the life of your baby, that's murder. Even so, I agree it should be legal for various reasons. And thus, you should at least accept the moral repercussions instead of nonchalantly ending life like nothing happened.
But because I'm partially in favour of equal rights, I think men should have the right to financially abort the baby if they so desire. Meaning that it'd have no ties to them, and it'd be all on the mom.
>>68065089
That white part isnt her body its a different body completely.
It takes 2 to make a kid. and by the same logic as this "No uterus no right to talk about it" meme only soldiers have opinions on war.
Get out.
i can lay out philosophical arguments and logical reasons why i'm aganist abortion.
but in reality, i'm more against it for emotional reasons.
my gut tells me it's evil.
it's weird that the left lets their emotion cloud their judgment on every issue except allowing mothers to butcher their developing child out of convenience.
>>68065089
I am. Planned Parenthood was made specifically to reduce black population growth, and it's been the most effective government program we've seen in a long time.
It's the only reduction in future welfare spending we can get the Democrats to agree to, because they've convinced themselves that it's a feminist issue.
>her body
Why is it suddenly not "her choice" when she chooses to drink herself to a .40 then willingly go along for a two hour romp of being treated like a barn animal?
the more abortions a woman has, the less likely she is to have another child
>>68065089
>her body
>image clearly shows two distinct bodies
>>68065089
> I made bad decisions and instead of admitting it I'd rather just tell people it's not a living thing inside me
> but if I decided to keep it and someone killed me and it died, then I want them to be charged for murder twice. Because I decided it was a living thing when I figured I'd keep it.
>understand that sex can lead to pregnancy
>have sex
>fetus grows
>haha oh wow I don't want this
>I guess I'm absolved of any responsibility for my actions because I'm a woman!
>>68066915
Probably not a bad thing.
>>68065089
cuz thats a meaningless platitude.
you support abortion, or you do not support abortion.
but i am pro choice
its the responsible thing to do if you can't afford to have a kid or they have birth defects
>>68065089
"Her responsibility"
At least here in the us a woman can get free abortions, pay $50 for a morning after pill, sign up for a free adoption agency, even abandon the child at the hospital with no questions asked. But she can name any man as the father on the birth certificate and use the courts to extort money from him from "HER CHOICE"
No, sorry fuck that shit.
But I am for abortion.
My ex also had one.
And yes, it was mine.
Tell me how big of a piece of shit I am.
"It's JUST a fetus," is an after the fact, ad hoc justification. Did some doctor somewhere DISCOVER that life didn't begin until birth and that's why abortion was made legal?
>>68067177
Also this. I don't see pro-choicers lionizing adoption services and I don't see pro-lifers protesting war.
>>68067278
>responsible thing to do
It's financially and emotionally convenient. "Responsible" would be abstinence.
>>68065089
Except the baby inside her isn't her body
I'm not pro-life, but I can't really care about abortion rights when it's her body and her rights but my wallet and my responsibility.
>>68065089
I'm pro choice, but they need to add a portion where a man can legally serve a woman if he is suspected of being the father and give up rights to a child. ensuring his only responsibility is half the price of an abortion.
>>68067467
>"Responsible" would be abstinence.
thats one form
the others are abortion and birth control
>>68065089
Because I am pro financial responsibility. If you can't afford to have a kid, you shouldn't be allowed to have a fucking kid
>>68065089
I'm pro baby murder.
Current population levels are already unsustainable. Without a massive amount of baby murder, the only way for humanity to survive is genocide to the tune of a few billion people.
>>68067651
If I made a chair and gave it to someone then a month later poured chemicals on it, smashed it up and threw it in a bin that would be unacceptable and illegal as its not mine. Just because some thoughtless cunt gives LIFE doesn't mean that they should have the oppertunity to legally take it away on a whim.
>>68067651
Birth control is closer to responsible, but still playing the odds. It's still your fault if you lose at a casino, you chose to gamble.
Abortion is not "responsible." It's damage control. The best choice in a bad situation is not necessarily a "responsible" choice.
>>68067709
yeah but the way we implement that is not to just allow for women, as individuals, to murder or birth their children at will. The reproductive mechanism of the human species should be left exclusively to the whims of individual women.
>>68067643
>>68067556
>>68067380
>>68066713
I was expecting this MRA bullshit - sorry, I don't buy it. If you want the pleasure of sex with a woman, then you have to be prepared for the consequences and responsibility that goes with it. If you do not wish to raise your child, it's right you pay for the child's upkeep.
>>68068101
>never have sex
easy to say when no one will ever have sex with you lad
>>68065089
Here is the definition of life:
"The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism."
Fetuses fit this description. They are ALIVE. Therefore, killing them for the sake of convenience is amoral.
And do you know how they fucking do it? I watched a fucking video of it, man. It's the most fucked up thing I've ever seen. I think the whole "trigger" nonsense is bullshit, but if that term ever applies to anything to do with me, it's the occasional flashbacks to that fucking video.
Abortionists are going to rot in hell, and I'm not sorry about it. Nor will I ever apologize or capitulate to a woman telling me that it's HER choice.
The government is supposed to represent and advocate for the defenseless, the voiceless, those who can't do it themselves; it's one of literally the only positive things they do. Making abortion legal completely undermined this basic principle.
Fucking murderers get free legal counseling and representation, but babies? Nope. They get sucked up through a fucking tube because Stacy doesn't want a kid to ruin her fucking twat, and the state does nothing but give more money to the charnel houses that do these procedures.
Fuck abortion, fuck the bullshit right to privacy argument, fuck the fact that we have essentially murdered a generation's worth of new people for convenience. GOD FORBID THEY SHOULD EVER CONSIDER ADOPTION AS AN OPTION! NO NO NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH! YOU HAVE TO KILL IT!
If this went on long, I'm sorry, I just watched episode four of Daredevil season two, and there was a child-related monologue that pretty much broke my heart.
>>68068058
not reading
>>68068101
just because you dislike doesn't mean its not a responsible choice/action
>>68065089
but i am
if i was a woman i'd have 3 abortions just to make sure, so i feel it would be hypocritical form me not to be
having the potential to be a person doesn't make you a person just like having the potential to be a doctor doesn't make me a doctor
>>68065736
>She gives the resources to it, she can decide whether or not she wants it.
the argument is that it is her body. this makes no difference to the argument.
>>68065089
Women shouldn't be allowed to make decisions in general. Most things should be up to men.
>>68068184
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God"
Do you think He is only talking about monetary wealth?
LOL
I am but abortion is not a women's rights issue.
>>68068163
If you don't posess the child how can you be legally responsible for it? The child is immaterial to a man who doesn't possess it at that moment. If he has it on thr weekend he must feed and clothe it. If the woman has her child the lack of a man to provide should be taken up with the surrogate daddy women vote for constantly, free government shit.
>>68065089
as long as my taxes don't pay for it, I don't care.
>>68068261
Kek confirmed troll.
>>68065089
I'm pro-choice, only when it's optimal for the mother (health, economically). But this graphic has always confused me. The white part abstracts the baby's body from the mothers, making it independent. I feel like it's counterintuitive to what the graphic is attempting to accomplish.
>>68068345
Grapes have never been more sour.
>>68068506
I don't agree with government welfare either. Both parents should be raising the child together. If the man decides to be selfish and not be part of the child's life then it is right that he pays if the woman asks.
>>68068458
how not? i mean only women can get one
>>68065089
I'd rather the child was kept, but ultimately it's the mothers choice, and I cannot override that.
>>68065089
I am
I fucking love dead babies
>>68065736
So if I have 6 month old who depends on me for resources, I have the right to stop and starve it to death?
>>68065089
Pic related and the fact that feminists call it a parasite
>>68065736
Consequentialism is a joke. Morality stands independent from pleasure, pain, resource, or consequence.
>>68068219
Do you eat meat?
>>68068842
I wasn't aware this was your angle. Of course I agree but I jump immediately to defence of the man because that's my perspective as someone who wants to find a wife and raise many kids with her, I a gud boy wundu nuffin. What if hypothetically some insane cunt stuffs your discarded condom up her or you're tricked by a whore or she cheats? I wouldn't want the responsibility in the latter to pay for a child with a woman who is a traitor especially if she gets the kid a stepdad. If she cannot feed it in a free and honest system it should be at my discretion to let her and the kid starve or not and her decision to settle for some cuck stepdad who would raise the kid of some whore with a flappy used up cunt.
>>68069352
The size of a fucking pencil, and you want me to give a shit?
You spastic retard.
People matter. Embryos don't.
Get fucked. Or don't considering your position.
>>68066025
What was wrong with just rape, complications, and disorders?
Why did women feel the need to control things they didn't need to control?
>>68065736
Well if thats the case then we should stop paying taxes?
>>68070055
You used to be an embryo faggot, But your mother was retarded enough to not abort you.
>>68070279
She attempted with Maori cock but it just got in his brainmatter and gave him cucktosis.
>>68069716
Yes, and I see your argument, so don't bother. Mine is that these fetuses are alive, and will be human. Just wait nine months; deal with the issues, and please, if you don't want the child yourself, go through an adoption agency. There are thousands of them out there that will handle everything for you, you can meet them ahead of time, and they'll cover whatever the medical expenses are. Insist on a c-section if you want to keep your twat tight.
Unless the mother is in medical distress and they have to prematurely deliver, there is never any reason that I can think of to abort a child.
>>68065089
Op, explain to me why you aren't pro-sterilization?
>No need for abortion discussion
>One time procedure, unlike other contraceptives
>Faggots like you can be bred out of the gene pool
>>68070055
>The size of a fucking pencil, and you want me to give a shit?
wew lad. You're a rebel, aren't you?
